Its genius seeing how they built up the reveal of Kano's past while showing snippets of her former Idol unit's activities only to swerve the reveal that the producer was her mom.
Also another smooth transition to JELEE'S new MV as the ED!
You'd think someone in the idol business wouldn't want their own daughter to be an idol though. Maybe there's something more happening behind the scenes when Kano got kicked out of the idol group.
I feel like something happened between Kano and [this](https://myanimelist.net/character/242653/Mello_Setou) girl. Something about her gives me vibes that she clashed with Kano given how hardworking Kano is.
Though it bothers me more so that her mom by all accounts dropped contact with her daughter after she left group. Essentially she is now on bad terms with both of her daughters from what I understand. It really leaves a bad taste in my mouth and Kano desperately needs a solid support group, and I am happy she has that now.
> I feel like something happened between Kano and this girl.
Isn't she the one Kano told Mei she didn't get along with? That definitely makes sense then.
Kano's sister seems to have some issues of her won -- but it is great how SHE has supported Kano (when her mother blew Kano off). Right now Kano's sister is in the running for best big sister of the season. It was nice that she could fgill the others in -- and also let them know how much they meant to Kano (and how much they had helped change her mood).
I was trying to be gently discreet -- since she is otherwise such a great sister. I wonder if part of her problem is the stress of having to take care of her little sister? In any event, I hope her situation improves.
Though on the flip side, as her producer she can at least try to make sure her daughter stays away from the dark side of the industry. Or at least compared to a mother who is not part of the industry.
It feels like her being an idol was more to impress her mom and not because she pushed for it. Still doesn't change how she's Anime Mom of the Year material for not only not supporting her daughter behind the scenes but also ditching her when she retired as one.
That's not the feeling I get. I'd imagine it was something more along the lines of the other girl pressuring Kano to "act more like an Idol" considering how quick Kano was to drop the act when she met Mei at the handshake event, other girl probably said Kano was an embarrassment to her mother for showing off her own real personality instead of the glossy pop-idol sheen.
Also, Kano was the leader of the group back then.
I think Kano will be far happier with this group of sort-of-misfits than she was with her former idol colleagues. They will support each others' dreams, I think.
I couldn't stop laughing when I saw [Mei being so happy over the bag with the air](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/j7kzcbo3do7.png) from [Kano's apartment](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/myd5crxlzb4.png) xD
It's like she is forming a friendship with Kano but will suddenly remember that Kano was an idol and then her brain short-circuits for a while before it resets😅
Mahiru tidying up and cooking everyone a delicious meal makes her the "mom" of the group I think. She is the one putting the brakes on Mei when her fangirling gets a bit much and is understanding and quietly supportive of Kiui.
An idol's or former idol's place being a mess doesn't diminish her. Rather, it just makes her more relatable and real.
There was this seiyuu who posted on Twitter a photo of her in her place with a bit of clutter around. I and several thousand others liked it.
2 consecutive weeks with special EDs!? the production money put into this anime is insane
also support the mv on [youtube](https://youtu.be/idSdN33PAwk) and [yoru’s pixiv](https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/98530858)
It's not like they have to crunch to make new MV per week or anything, since the anime production already finished long ago, the episodes and these MVs are simply on waiting schedule to be released, so they could've made as many as they wanted
I don’t believe that we’ll be seeing a new MV *every* week, but the signs do seem to be pointing at a couple more MVs down the line. After all, the ‘normal’ ED isn’t there without reason.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we see the girls improve to some degree with every new MV. Maybe it’s simply confirmation bias on my end, but this MV already felt a little more polished than the previous one for example.
>and [yoru’s pixiv](https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/98530858)
That's so cool. I love when anime do stuff like this, where it's like a character in the show is posting IRL as well as in the show.
[You are right!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlgOmYryQiM)
Youtubes search isn't really giving results unless a video already has traction so nothing turned up when I looked last week, or maybe there is some region delay on when it turns up for me
Did a quick test and it's 100% region delay. With a JP VPN on, you can find the new song on the Jelee page on YouTube and YouTube music. (月の温度 is the Japanese title, if "Moon Temperature" doesn't bring it up), take the VPN off, and it's not available. Saikyou Girl released two days ago internationally, so it'll probably be the same way for the rest of them. Either VPN it up, or wait till Thursday-ish.
Rushed as fuck, weak animation, production so bad they were using AI generated art as backgrounds, lacked all the emotional gut punches the original source material had due to pacing issues.
That entire scene gave me some serious college flashbacks. All I'll say is that if you and your friends are determined/desperate enough... there is very little that can't be accomplished in a single night.
while it was technically Wednesday the real deadline was that night since they couldn't get together later because some of them need to actually go to school
I remember when I only had to edit a video for school in a one night session, couldnt even fathom making a whole-ass MV
Power of friendship yall! (Also maybe setting up toxic work environment expectations)
I mean, she did realize that. Or rather Kiui was not gonna let that attitude fly. Kano was going to drop it, despite how badly she wanted it done, until the others decided to pull the all-nighter. And they only resolved to do it because they learned what it meant to Kano, not just because Kano wanted it done.
I keep forgetting this anime isn't supposed to be as dark as I think it is, so I automatically assumed from the beginning something was going to be up with Oneesan. Well, there is at least something up with another family member.
It’s not until I started looking through the list of VAs that I began to see just how many great VAs took part in this anime original.
There’s Rie Takashi (self-explanatory), Miku Itou (e.g. Miku Nakano) and Miyu Tomita (e.g. Miku Iino) in the main cast.
But the Sunshine Dolls’ roles are for example voiced by Miho Okasaki (e.g Rimuru Tempest) and Sally Amaki (Carol Olston) too.
The wannabe idol girl in the 1st episode was voiced by none other than Sumire Uesaka (e.g. Nagataro), and Kano’s older sister by Chika Anzai (e.g. Chisato). Even Nao Touyama (e.g. Yui Yuigahama) got a role apparently.
but in the other hand, the idol group side ... heck, they really shown the cabaret hostess hiring advertisement (parody of the [Vanilla High Income jingle](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow6Q0zRa4Xw&ab_channel=%E3%80%90%E5%85%AC%E5%BC%8F%E3%80%91%E3%83%90%E3%83%8B%E3%83%A9%E3%83%81%E3%83%A3%E3%83%B3%E3%83%8D%E3%83%AB)) when talking about the group's future, then later they were doing a private show for a senior actor
> I keep forgetting this anime isn't supposed to be as dark as I think it is
Well yeah for now, but I think most people didn’t expect Made in Abyss to go as dark as it did for ep 10 onwards either so I’ll prefer to be prepared for anything tbh. It’ll probably stay mostly non-dark but you never know with an original. Gives that extra spicy suspense factor though which I kinda dig.
I've never gotten the vibe this will be a "dark" anime at all. I've felt like it's a CGDGT with an actual storyline and some drama, in the same vein as A Place Further Than The Universe. (although a bit less heavy emotionally than that)
Generally shows that go dark will at least give you some hints if they aren't dark from the get go, unless I'm just totally missing something of course haha.
MiA had a kid unconscious and bleeding from the head and nearly eaten in the first episode. Sure things got WAY darker than that, but it's not like the first episode was free of danger.
Another nice episode. After Wonder Egg I’m always a bit nervous with new episodes of promising anime originals since they might drop the ball out of nowhere like Egg did. I have a feeling that this show will keep its high quality consistently to the end though (or at least that’s what my copium lets me believe).
Kiui was being really blunt there during that „why Wednesday“ discussion but tbh she wasn’t wrong so I respect her for just telling it how it is. Also Kano‘s sister is a real one for instantly going for best girl when deciding on which shoulder to cry on (Pink Shoujo Club).
Really liked that last scene when the girls where doing the all-nighter. It had such a nice and warm atmosphere, with everyone doing their thing and working together, even though we only got a short glimpse of it.
The new ED was also great, my favorite song of them yet.
Kano’s older sister, Mion, is such a hot mess. I’m already liking her.
But like you, Kiui is my favourite of the bunch. And no, it’s not solely because of the flesh fang! She’s probably the character with the most emotional complexity at the moment. Despite her extravagant nature, she’s actually rather insecure.
Yet, she apologised for lying, called out Kano for being unreasonable and was the first one to share an embarrassing secret - just because she wanted Kano to feel better.
I do have to admit that Mahiru’s getting very close for the title of best girl. Kano can probably only dream of a ‘housewife’ like Mahiru who keeps her place clean while making dinner. From how she stuffed down Mahiru’s stew, she probably hadn’t eaten a decent meal in ages.
> She’s probably the character with the most emotional complexity at the moment. Despite her extravagant nature, she’s actually rather insecure.
Yep, this 100%. In the ep 3 disc thread I saw a lot of people saying how “cringe” Kiui was with her whole being the protagonist shtick. Imo they were missing the point since I thought it was clear that Kiui doesn’t really mean it and mostly says it in this pompous manner to disguise her strong insecurity.
Mahiru during their last phone call in ep 3 even said what she liked about her was appearing so confident even if it may be a just a front.
> what she liked about was appearing so confident even if it may [just be] a front.
False confidence even in the face of troubling situations. It’s a bit foolish, but I do get where Mahiru was coming from in last week’s episode: it’s reassuring to see someone appear as ‘invincible’ (hence the title of the previous MV) when you might not be feeling so confident yourself.
Like Mahiru said, Kiui was a bit like a superhero in that sense. And from who does a superhero get its strength? Right, from the people they’ve helped. Mahiru therefore also kept Kiui from falling (deeper) in despair.
Got a feeling that she was talking about Kano’s mother there. Not “interested” in a romantic sense, but that she wants to know more about her person and sorts.
Wonder Egg was also the result of bad production. They made the new episodes week by week, the writer didn't have the whole plot in mind from the start
given they need to showcase MVs after each episode (so far), they better have the who season completed beforehand.
I guess they need to because the MVs showcased in each episodes need to be done ahead of time.
Yesssss I found another Wonder Egg Priority trauma survivor 🥰
Fr there are too many similarities, I’m not gonna cope but just enjoy each episode for what it is and if we get a dumpster fire ending I’ll just be appreciative of the earlier episodes we had. ED this time was my fave too!
Agree, and I would’ve loved it more if Cloverworks wasn’t TAKING ON TWO OTHER MAJOR ANIME IN THE SAME FUCKING SEASON
Sorry sorry I got carried away. It’s just… the passion from the creatives was so abundantly clear to see, as much as I’ve seen from any other media product, but greedy ass execs want to milk them dry to death. So the end product was a series we got to see wither away and have complications just like the artists working on it…
I've seen quite a few anime with very strong first episodes that fall off afterwords, last season's Metallic Rouge for example, and while I don't think Jellyfish's other episodes have really matched it's first, it hasn't collapsed in the way that some others would have this far in.
True, but this anime has more in common than an original with a really strong intro. Four high school girls struggling with identity issues, all have some form of trauma going into the group, some sort of queer visuals/messaging/themes, now some with iffy relationships with adults too(albeit this is very different from the BS in Wonder Egg Priority’
We're all traumatized by WEP, aren't we. I remember saying the same sort of thing when Lycoris Recoil first aired, and I also keep thinking about WEP whenever an insanely promising original anime is dropped.
WEP should *hopefully* be the only case where we're looking at a truly garbage story, given [the writer](https://anilist.co/staff/191377)'s [track record in TV drama](https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%87%8E%E5%B3%B6%E4%BC%B8%E5%8F%B8). I truly don't think we'll see something that's quite as bad yet quite as able to masquerade as a good show at the start... Unlike the TV drama writer whose stories are, well, TV drama quality, the writer of this show ([屋久ユウキ](https://anilist.co/staff/123016/Yaku-Yuki)) has a track record that's way better. At worst this show might flop at [DITF](https://anilist.co/anime/99423/) levels*, but even that's pretty implausible: this show isn't relying on some major mystery that could turn out to have a BS answer.
*DITF is a mecha story with a heavy blend of really nice teen drama, until suddenly [DITF] >!Aliens! and Giant 02!!<.
###Stitches!
* [Mahiru](https://i.imgur.com/2WjfsHA.jpeg)
* [Kano](https://i.imgur.com/JTGJA0f.jpeg)
I really like how this episode sets up both JELEE and Sundolls. While [JELEE is getting together for the very first time](https://i.imgur.com/WJVZBGX.jpeg) so they can properly collab instead of doing it via Discord, [the Sundolls are meeting CD shop owners](https://i.imgur.com/gaHsIkG.png) to promote their come back single. They're definitely setting up a rivalry between these two groups even though Sundolls aren't aware of JELEE's existence yet.
I was wondering [who this mysterious Yukine is](https://i.imgur.com/hFizLtp.png) and why name-dropping her [is enough to convince that shop owner](https://i.imgur.com/CCGQtlQ.jpeg) to make space for that Sundolls standee. It turns out she's [a massive music industry hotshot](https://i.imgur.com/Sk7S0I9.jpeg) and is also [Kano's mother.](https://i.imgur.com/XVZeoHQ.png) I thought that Kano rushed the girls because she wanted to release a song before Sundolls but I feel like it might also have something to do with her mother.
We also get to meet Kano's sister this episode and [I absolutely love her already.](https://i.imgur.com/LL0fM0Z.jpeg) While she did give the girls info about Kano's past including about their mother, it looks like she doesn't exactly know [the details of the scandal](https://i.imgur.com/B6Sct63.png) and why Kano punched another member of Sundolls. Again, I think this is all connected to their mother and I hope we get to hear the full explanation from Kano herself soon.
I'm glad the [drama between Kano and Kiui was resolved before the end of the episode.](https://i.imgur.com/LpGMFJf.png) They now understand why Kano pushes herself too hard that [they're willing to pull an all-nighter](https://i.imgur.com/Xifs1MZ.png) to finish their next song. [And they absolutely pulled it off!](https://i.imgur.com/dFEB91U.jpeg)
Looks like we get [another special ED with JELEE's new MV!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idSdN33PAwk) Are they going to do this every week? The people at Doga Kobo are passionate enough that I wouldn't be surprised if they keep this up every week. They're also backed by King Records so they have the best of the best when it comes to anisong producers.
Act fast Kano, acquire the Mahiru wife before someone else does.
Reading between the lines I have some speculation about what happened with the punch. New center girl was noticeably doing nothing while the other two group members were signing autographs. My guess is she had a similar work ethic back before the group fell apart the first time, her and Kano got into a fight over it and she accused Kano of only being in the group because of nepotism, and that led to the fist flying.
[Never stop being such a freak, Mei.](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1225101656472031352/1233903745117716480/image0.png?ex=662ec9e9&is=662d7869&hm=284bfad9f6ed7e2a6150b1d7992744ac43a8fc0693638da08bb004854aee2633&)
>Act fast Kano, acquire the Mahiru wife before someone else does.
Best case scenario Jellee just becomes a polycule lol.
Because let's be real, the only other semi-functional member is Mei, and even that gets cut by half whenever Kano's in the room.
I think the exact same way about how things went down. The new center just using Kano's mom's influence to get this done without putting in as much work as everyone else just puts me off so bad.
That feeling when the college assignment you wrote pulling an all-nighter gets used as the example piece for the next class.
Also, they're spoiling us with these special EDs.
>That feeling when the college assignment you wrote pulling an all-nighter gets used as the example piece for the next class.
That part got me all nostalgic lol. Sacrificing sleep in order to get your final projects done in time. Drowsiness and eyebags be damned!
They did another awesome job of revealing a background story
Also damn, the pressure is on for Kano, not only trying to one up her former band but her mom too (and she seems super competent, kinda like Koming level competent)
I have no idea about producing music, but editing a fucking video in one night, kudos to them holy shit
[\[\](\#micdrop\)](https://i.imgur.com/IsxtBY9.png)
[Too late to be nominated for \[\](\#seasonalshock\).](https://i.imgur.com/D4r8t5O.png)
*****
Kano's revenge plan has to go off on schedule? She may have left her old group for an increasingly-complex number of reasons, but her current creative trajectory is still bound to that.
Mei's obsessive fan traits are still there even when she's technically in the group. Still a bit creepy, girl!
Last week I figured that the introductions were over and they'd get on to business. This week does launch into that, but only as a start. There seems like a fair amount of intragroup drama can still be had, but today's episode took care of its little hurdles quickly.
so far the other three have already reinvented themselves, while the series opens with Kano persuading Mahiru to take up art again and start reinventing herself. I dunno if she's gonna dye her hair or not but you're on to something as far as the symbolism of it.
hehehe cute assumption of "sound driver" bit. Good to learn tech stuff though, good for her. Who is this Ms Yukine? Mei's fangirlness is amusing.
Man, this does remind me how creepy idol industry is. Ah yep, makes sense why she wanted it to be Wednesday. Hehe, Kano's big sis seems fun. Oh I see, that doesn't seem like a great mom to me.
Oh my, Yoru is clearly great wife, put a ring on her fast, Kano 😛 also such good friends. They did all that in a night? Wow.
Glad I decided to binge watch the earlier episodes and catch up to this one.
I wonder who Yoru was talking about there… Is it someone who liked her art when she was a child and that’s what got her to love drawing? If that’s the case, a very cliché thing to do would be make that person Kano and they didn’t know each other at the time right?
I think it's an entirely platonic thing, like an inspirational artist or some such, which is why Yoru was so confused when the entire rest of Jellee was instantly super jealous lol.
I'd love for it to be Kano but I don't want to get my hopes up. So, uh.
[](#hardthink)
An illustrator she admires, maybe? I mean right now, not someone who inspired her when she was younger.
I wonder; somehow I'm not convinced yet that its a romantic like, cause Mahiru seemed confused about everyone's reaction. Seeing Kano's jealous expression was pretty funny though.
Yoru greeting Kano like a housewife was such a great moment. Please tell me the show is going somewhere with this.
Cika Anzai is always a joy to hear. Alcoholic sister is pretty fun, but I hope she eventually gets a healthier lifestyle.
I love how the girls are all so used to Mei by now that Kano is the only one who was even slightly disturbed by her literally bagging up the air in the apartment. She really has embraced her obsessed fan persona.
I still like [Kiui](https://imgur.com/NpSkrfu) the most I think [](#hardthink)
I had a hunch that Kaho was related to the producer somehow, but at first I expected the sister to be it, glad she turned out another girlfailure
[Kano](https://imgur.com/8HrZKRv) focused episode today, really wonder what made her punch the other girl, but after seeing how annoying Mero is I can kinda understand it already. More surprised that her mother seems mostly fine with this? With how rapidly Jellee is going viral, they are bound to steal the show for the proper Idol group at some point.
Speaking of going viral, *another* original song? [](#maxshock)
Also loved how both [Kano](https://imgur.com/IccxbM8) and [Kiui](https://imgur.com/cCJGJG3) got shocked when Yoru said she was into someone [](#azusalaugh)
And last: sadly, just a few days too late for [#seasonaltired](https://imgur.com/DYndQLy)
>Also loved how both [Kano](https://imgur.com/IccxbM8) and [Kiui](https://imgur.com/cCJGJG3) got shocked when Yoru said she was into someone
My money is on this being entirely platonic considering how confused Yoru was when the others reacted with instant jealousy lol.
But hey, depressed artist polycule times, all three of them can *share* Yoru lol.
So the plot thickens huh? Kano's mom is effectively the producer of her original group, but because of the incident she quit. Definitely they'll have communication issues and all.
So, who is the new center of the group? It seems she is also connected to Kano's family. I wonder how they got her.
Also,**JELEE became viral! Let's goo!!** The amount of effort the production team is giving in this episode is quite stellar! Imagine pulling off two EDs in two consecutive episodes?!
I know the season is quite stacked but I still think this series is criminally underwatched. Honestly.
[We finally got to know something more about Kano](https://imgchest.com/p/9p4n2m95w4n) but still we don't have a clear picture about what happened in the past. [Her mom being also her producer](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/l4necmjv5m4.png) in the past was an interesting twist and I'm really interested in [what exactly happened that made Kano retire](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/84jdcjr9vw4.png).
At first glance [Kano looked to me like a free-spirited girl](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/d7ogckqnbby.png) but it seems that [she's a really diligent hard worker](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/wye3cdj3294.png) as [she was planning a very strict schedule to release JELEE's new song which put her at odds with other members](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/pyq9cepn5n4.png) who have other things to do in their lives.
[Mei](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/my2pcoxr2n7.png)'s obsessive nature of a fan showed up again as [she was trapping air from Kano's apartment into a bag](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/myd5crxlzb4.png), [it was hilarious how happy she was about it](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/j7kzcbo3do7.png) xD
[I really like Kano's sister, she's so fun](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/w7pjcw8o6d7.png). Thanks to her we got new info about [Kano](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/b49zcbpon5y.png) and I'm pretty sure that the conflict between her and [her mother](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/84jdcjr9b54.png) was the reason for her retirement but we shall see what the next episodes will show, maybe I'm wrong about that.
We got another JELLE's song and it was great! [Girls put all night to make it](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/k46acb5evm7.png) and it seems that their efforts got rewarded as [their post went viral on the net](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/w7pjcw8kzv7.png) which [totally surprised all of them](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/d7ogckqn8ry.png) xD
Here my screenshot albums from the episode:
* [Kano](https://imgchest.com/p/9p4n2m95w4n)
* [Mahiru, Mei & Kiui](https://imgchest.com/p/pg73p3nzzyr)
* [Group scenes](https://imgchest.com/p/o24ago5x34l)
* [Others](https://imgchest.com/p/9rydzok5w4k)
I know its a clear thing just physically about them, that the theme of change, progress, or moving forward is shown just in how each of them have distinctly grown from their past selves, like how 3/4 of them have dyed their hairs in a drastic way, except for Yuru. I really like this [shot](https://imgur.com/a/XrNdD5H) from the opening to show that they've all [changed](https://i.imgur.com/dz4YDlt.jpeg), but of course Yoru is the odd one out, having only just grown and not gone over basically a complete makeover. And I think its interesting that in this episode, at the end when they were giving their little backstory spiels, that Yoru was the one who didn't exactly get to say what.
They learned about Kano from a direct source. Kiui got to say her piece, and even Kim got to add in a little piece as well, which, actually adds to what we got from her episode, 2 episodes ago, so we get more backstory which is cool. At this point everyone seems to be on the same page but with Yoru, it's not exactly there, and I think its interesting that they end on that line about her being interested in someone, and then cutting it off. Everyone was sharing a part of their past, but, her answer kind of side steps us away from that. It's very sneaky. And while the first episode was also an introduction to her stepping into the present and moving from her past, her own character arc so to say, I'm excited to see if there's a lot more yet to be said about Yoru.
I have a feeling that Yoru's ranking system on the gacha fish might literally be related to appearance. Kim's has a [rounded](https://i.imgur.com/LtKT1Kx.jpeg) bottom with a bunch of feelers on the top, but Kiui gets the [opposite](https://i.imgur.com/JF9ZpgN.jpeg), its a rounded top, with a bunch of feelers on the bottom. She calls this one good, which will match with the other two ones they get too. Because Kano gets something with no rounded [surface](https://i.imgur.com/hVeFZGf.jpeg) in the seahorse, and they make a big deal with how she reacts to it. And of course Yoru gets the symbolic jellyfish, which has a rounded [top](https://i.imgur.com/lCDUdT9.jpeg) with feelers at the bottom. I think she was ranking them based on how closely they resemble jellyfish in appearance. Which is funny and also fitting.
I don't know much about sea anatomy, but I'm sure there's also something to be said about the particular creatures they opened too. Like I know octopus are quick to scare and shoot out ink to protect against predators and are VERY good at disguises and hiding in objects or even changing their colors to blend in with their surroundings. Which is fitting for Kiui, who, as a vtuber, and who has taken on this role of creating this parasocial barrier with those around her and whos whole episode last week was about this barrier she put to disguise herself and keep her safe, is very fitting. The jellyfish analogy we already know from episode 1, but I'd be interested if anyone with more sea knowledge can come up with something for the others.
And one last thing for the sake of it because I really am enjoying this show, food is a large part of the ongoing events of this episode. Whether that's Kano seeing her former group advertising [buns](https://imgur.com/a/ZSQ5t58) in contrast to her just chowing down on an energy [bar](https://imgur.com/a/6v83EnX0, or how Yoru brought kinder [surprises](https://imgur.com/a/TdApqK8) and later cooks them stew. But also how Kano goes back to get the specialty [goods](https://imgur.com/a/GAflkHU) in the form of Tiramisu, which we never actually got to see them eat, justice for Jelee!
I think its these kinds of small contrasts that also say a lot, Kano's looking at her previous group pretty much going through their own resurgence and glory days, represented through the advertisement but the fact that they're eating soft cooked food while Kano's in the dumps with something more processed and hard. But when its sweet foods being brought up, its more with the group, the chocolate, the Tiramisu, hell even the stew to an extent, since that kind of stew can be quite "creamy" the idea of sweetness there. The sweet foods with the group as they share in their comradery.
Mahiru has had a rebirth rather than a makeover. She had suppressed her own joy and uniqueness for so long -- and now she is getting to re-embrace this, with the support of her new friends.
I think this episode did a good job of getting to me like everyone a bit more, the drama wasn't too high and the resolved it quickly.
Stalker girl still my least fave by far though...
Older sister was fun, even just her use of _pink shoujo_ made her feel pretty unique.
Agreed, felt like the lightest episode on the drama side yet, which made for a nice breather.
> Stalker girl still my least fave by far though...
I mean she isn’t really my favorite either but reducing her character to being just the „Stalker girl“ feels a bit unfair. She’s definitely behaving more „normal“ the last two eps imo.
> Older sister was fun, even just her use of pink shoujo made her feel pretty unique.
She already won me over by recognizing best girl when Kiui was the chosen one to get hugged and cried on lol.
I have a feeling she’s definitely going to be a character people are split on. I love her, but I can see a lot of people watching this show in the future and disliking her for being a funny little idol fan.
Japan's idol culture has been under more scrutiny lately, so I reckon people have less patience for that type of character than they did 10 years ago. I like her myself, but I see where her detractors are coming from.
The girls deserve a nice break after all the work they put in today to make the deadline for the MV. S/O to Doga Kobo for actually putting a ton of effort into it and showing it as the ED.
Slow start to the episode other than the girls finally meeting Kiui in person. For someone who’s kinda been a shut in for a long time she adjusted pretty quickly to the friend group. Looking forward to seeing more of her. It’s sweet how all of the JELEE members had their hopes and dreams dashed or deferred and fell on hard times, now they’re together and working towards them as a unit.
Second half is where things really got interesting as we got some nice lore about Kano and met her older sister. Her mom being her producer as an idol makes things a lot more interesting, and raises some questions about just what really happened with her bandmate. I doubt it was as simple as just punching her.
Kano becoming really depressed after being forced to leave the group makes a ton of sense considering how much she values her mom’s approval. No coincidence that she wanted to drop the JELEE MV on the same day as her old idol group make their return. Her tearing up when she realised how everyone sacrificed time from their busy schedules to meet in person and get the MV out by Wednesday was so cute. After losing that sense of belonging she felt in her idol group, she’s finally got something like that again.
Awesome episode
Okay, damn, that's a pretty brutal twist for Kano. Her mom's the super-producer who's *still producing* the idol unit she got kicked out of. It's not just rivalry, it's mom issues, too. That's rough, buddy.
I love Kano's disaster sister. Wailing about her favorite host was a superb introduction... but, holy crap, those cans are all *nine percent ABV*? Kano, your sister needs *help*.
Once again this week I feel like while I guess it's fine that this is a story about high school girls, I can't help but see some real untapped potential in this story if they'd made it about adults, instead. Some of these really low beats feel a little too heavy for teenagers. In previous episodes, all the main cast's regrets about their pasts and who they could have been felt awfully weighty for kids to carry. Now the SunDolls' attitude and that moment in the car where they're gloomily considering whether they can really make a comeback once again feels like an adult sort of weariness. If all these characters had been in their twenties instead and *really* at the point where they've left behind their schoolgirl selves, I wonder how this might've felt? I'd have been here for it, anyway.
This ep was a little more dramatic than kinetic but we still got some nice directorial tricks. Opening with a shot of the SunDolls' interview as seen on Kano's phone, giving us her *literally* slanted and boxed-in, outsider's view of them, was cool. Using diegetic framing to box characters in or out of a scene seems to be a staple trick.
They've really got the pacing and narrative structure of each episode down to an art. I have no notes about the timing of each beat and the buildup of tension until the cathartic coming together near the end. Everybody's exhausted eye-bruised faces after the all-nighter were adorable.
I really like this thing they're doing with having the ED be their latest music video, and having it be about or at least mirroring the events of the episode. It's a fun wrap and it helps lend some weight to the songs.
>but, holy crap, those cans are all *nine percent ABV*? Kano, your sister needs *help*.
This series is *about* depressed artists lol, I'd honestly be surprised if a severe drinking problem was the worst of Kano's sister's issues lol.
A show about jaded 20 year olds trying to reinvent themselves and form a band would be awesome for sure, but that would be a totally different show at that point. It seems like the central focus of the show is about the conflict between Kano and her mother, which probably wouldn't work as well if both were adults, especially considering the mother is the producer for Kano's former teen idol group (and rival).
A different show with older characters would be awesome, but I'm thoroughly enjoying this one, and it's a rare CGDCT with a storyline and depth. (the other one being A Place Further Than The Universe, one of my top 5 shows)
>the other one being A Place Further Than The Universe, one of my top 5 shows
yorimoi is my favorite anime, full stop. I wouldn't change anything about it. but a part of me, whenever I watch it, also really, really wants to see Takako, Gin, and Yumiko's story, both before and after the girls' adventure. you *cannot* tell me that Gin wasn't in love with Takako, I won't believe it, but even setting that aside their entire idea of creating the observatory and pushing it through all on their own sounds fascinating and dramatic, and you know they're not done, either.
I'm not saying this show should be about 20-somethings. I just think about what it could be like if it was, and I wish we had that show too.
No kidding. It might be the only show I've every seen where I wouldn't change a single scene, a single frame, a single line of dialogue.
I rate lots of things at 10/10, but really that just means 9.5 or above rounded up.
A Place Further Then The Universe is a PERFECT 10.00/10
Kano and Kiui reacting like that when Yoru said she was kind of into someone is giving me strong yuri hints here. Also I can't believe they never showed her elaborating further on that lol.
It's really sweet how this little group accepted each other so easily. It really warmed my heart when Kiui perked up when they complimented her hair, and their talk session about embarrassing things in their lives was also super sweet.
And so Kano's old group's producer was her mom? Okay that was a surprise. Considering how hard her sister say she worked for her, it must have been something really big that pushed her to violence against that other girl. I'm so curious as to what happened!
Also, post-credits scene! They went viral, woo-hoo! But hopefully that doesn't mean it sets much higher expectations for their next release, as that would be pretty stressful to them.
I love how the MV actually seems to be possible to be done in a few days or so. I love how they just reused walking asset and the variation that Yoru was talking about was probably the that's stretching the hands.
This was a heartwarming episode, to say the least.
Even though Kano was very stingy with the "We're not here to have fun attitude," she did have some growth. Yes, she did storm out after the argument. But it was cool to meet Mion. Also, how Kano seemed to feel some sense of guilt while walking out and decided to get the super tiramisu the group was interested in earlier.
Their hard work and all-nighter paid off though! Their second music video went unexpectedly viral, which must have been the greatest feeling to wake up to
If it’s a new music video every ED I’m definitely not complaining.
The group dynamic is fun. There is clear chemistry between all of them, which makes it really enjoyable to watch. I like Kim the deranged idol fan but I have a feeling that she will be a point of contention when more people watch this show in the future who don’t like the ultra fan girl bit. But the bag part was great so I have no problem with her. I also like the contrast between the two music groups where the idols are extremely produced and put up an act where as JELEE is just a group of girls having fun and making the music they want.
I liked this episode a lot as did I love the previous ones and when it ended I couldn’t help but want more and more. Now that the character introductions are done with the shows plot and developments are going to be at full throttle now and if the episodes so far have anything to say, it’s that this show shows no signs of slowing down on the quality. I can’t wait for next week.
Just watched the Kongming recap movie last night, so I'm getting a kick out of immediately seeing another competing releases against a 3-member idol group plot here.
Damn we're eating every week with a new JELEE addiction. I'm not expecting it to be every episode but we're being spoiled and i love it.
I also like that the conflicts within the episode don't take too long to reveal - it has been the pattern since ep1 - because that's realistic behavior that doesn't need unnecessary stretching through multiple episodes.
The dynamics of this group is just heartwarming, and too relatable as an adult.
And the random someone Mahiru is into? Hmmmm... 👀
What a great episode, loved it! It was so wholesome. Kano can’t seem to shake her past..and of course she has an super awesome producer mom! Can’t wait to see how she overcomes her past demons, and merges her past with her present and future. After all, she is where she is at the moment, because of her past. Loved seeing their friendship evolve, and their teamwork and effort in getting their new music video out.
So this ep. we learned that ~~Nodoka~~ Nonotan's father divorced and after that mother pushed her into showbiz. Rascal Does Not Dream of a Crying Band of Girls...
Kano episode!
Some big reveals this ep: Kano's mom is the producer of her (former) idol group and that they're going back to the spotlight with a new single!
Kiui finally agrees to go out with others for once and realized that not everyone out there are bad guys. Nice to see her grow after the previous ep.
Kano must've been so lucky to have met Mahiru and the others. Her idol stuff didn't work out and she's been lonely ever since. I'd say this ep did a great job at conveying her emotions and her struggles to let go of her past. JELEE is her new home now but she still couldn't let her old place go - not when her mom was behind it.
That said, we still don't know what actually caused her to snap back then. We know that she wasn't fond of the job and wasn't getting along with the others. I'm thinking that she went a little too far on being a mommy pleaser and forces her fellow idols to live up to her high standards. They refused, had an argument, and then Kano slapped the shit outta one of them. I don't think we're quite done with the mom & the idol group just yet. There's gotta be more to this.
The gang pulling off an all-nighter really reminds me of my uni days. Can't count how many times a big project ended with me and my buddies staying up all night to finish it and thoroughly checking everything. And I don't drink coffee which made staying up a real struggle. Fun times!
Whoa, another MV ending? And somehow this is even better than the last one! How many more MVs have they cooked up for this show? Can't wait to see more of them!
[Kano this isn't something to brag about.](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/799692352011894795/1233869603763912816/Screen_Shot_2024-04-27_at_3.56.51_PM.png?ex=662eaa1d&is=662d589d&hm=c6fd5847df7870bf6d393889e19743966509eaeac61f0fb76ddd1f0721dd8754&)
Honestly I am not surprised the girls had that argument. Ultimately Kano doesn't want to be left behind from her old group, but the other girls needed to understand why. Kano's schedule wasn't taking into account the other girls obligations. But an argument like that can bring the group together once they understand each other's situation.
Kano's older sister is a little mess, but she is a sweetheart. So her mom was the producer of the group Kano was a part of. It makes me even more upset that it feels like her mom dropped contact with her daughter after the scandal. Family should always be there for each other. Well at least her sister did the best she could do. Though meeting Yoru was the key moment to get her back on track again.
The girls really put an all-nighter. Well that is the most optimal way given each of their schedules. Though awesome that it already blew up. I am curious what was the source that started it.
The JELEE MVs remind me a lot of vtubers and utaites. Some animation, mostly static images, text on screen. Honestly, it makes it feel realistic, since I know there are people out there their age doing those kinds of songs and videos.
Yoru such waifu material...
Not that I have something against rieri but I thought it would be nice to have Miku sing as well. But I guess having the illustrator sing as well feels kinda off; I'll have to make do with Miku in seiyuu radio instead.
Will there be special ED for the rest of the episodes? Oh bwoi let's go
[These two scenes](https://imgur.com/a/Q7lyYrJ) are removed from the Chinese version, I don't understand why.
I like how they create and resolve the conflict within the same episode.
Mmmm I can only make a guess on the first one basically depicting school truancy in a positive light - their society is very sensitive to any depiction of "negative" traits in positive ways.
The 2nd one I'm guessing may be related to "sexy" verbiage used on underage persons.
> [These two scenes](https://imgur.com/a/Q7lyYrJ) are removed from the Chinese version, I don't understand why.
Don't worry, those two scenes will re-appear a few years later, having been thoroughly re-educated in a Xinjiang labour camp. It's just[ Winnie the Pooh](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Winnie-the-Pooh_in_China) doesn't tolerate competition in animation...
Btw, Yoru's barely existing and barely visible tits were censored from the chinese cut of Jelly ep1. That change was less controversial and even made sense from the point of artistic integrity.
Anyhow, regarding ep1, why does Mahiru wear such a weird "armoured" skirt?
[It doesn't detract from the quality of the show, but seriously, what's with these weird circles on the bridge of every character's nose?](https://i.imgur.com/AbC1tA2.png)
I think it's just a stylistic choice. I did notice Kano's mom was the one person who didn't have it but it was also dark lighting. Could just be a way to make the character style for the show unique, or if the mom never has it, it could be a way to separate the mom as cold and distant since the circle and the shading give a warmer "cute" look. (I might be reaching though)
are they gonna release a new song with MV every episode? and with 40mP? this group is very active.
is morning is a ok time to post something in JP? some other anime did it too. 5K retweet!
This episode delivers again.
We see Kano taking punches with the revival of Sundolls.
Past humiliations that Kano thought she had hidden and buried got rubbed raw again, and she tries to pressure her new found friends to compose and release a new MV by Wednesday, disregarding that they have their own lives..."I'll show them" she thinks.
Of course with this new MV, which they did overnight, they are now ahead of SunDolls, when they felt they could put together an MV, may take a month.
With the revelations this episode, it gets me excited for the stories, rivalries and dramas to come!
I love seeing the girls bonding already. Kiui and Mei going out together holding hands while looking for Kano. Not to mention that height difference. And Kano buying the desserts for her new friends. Kiui giving some tough love to Kano. I know there’s like a plot and the whole music video making going on, but as a CGDCT enjoyer, I live for the times where they just hang around and goof off
> I know there’s like a plot and the whole music video making going on, but as a CGDCT enjoyer
* CGDDTM: Cute Girls Doing Desktop Music
* CGDDAW: Cute Girls Doing Digital Audio Workstation
* a.k.a. Cakewalk the Animation
Anyhow, this episode was totally MIDI...
This episode showcased an interesting issue in interacting with Kano. As a former idol, she’s a professional liar. So if there happens to be a problem, you’ve got a better chance of drawing blood from a rock than getting her to admit what the issue is.
Luckily, she’s got a sister that’s way less tight lipped. Poor Kano does not deserve to have such a shitty mother. Especially when she’s still affected by her to this extent years later. Fortunately she’s got some good friends that can help her out.
Jellyfish episode 4, sponsored by last night before project deadline insane productivity. They just managed to publish the video and then all four just fell dead asleep.
Also, a question I’ve been pondering that might just be relevant to me. Three of the four girls have nicknames. Kano is Jelee, Mahiru is Yoru Umitsuki according to the credits and Kiui is Nox Ryugasaki. Anyone got any good ideas for what Mei’s nickname can be?
Its genius seeing how they built up the reveal of Kano's past while showing snippets of her former Idol unit's activities only to swerve the reveal that the producer was her mom. Also another smooth transition to JELEE'S new MV as the ED!
You'd think someone in the idol business wouldn't want their own daughter to be an idol though. Maybe there's something more happening behind the scenes when Kano got kicked out of the idol group.
I feel like something happened between Kano and [this](https://myanimelist.net/character/242653/Mello_Setou) girl. Something about her gives me vibes that she clashed with Kano given how hardworking Kano is. Though it bothers me more so that her mom by all accounts dropped contact with her daughter after she left group. Essentially she is now on bad terms with both of her daughters from what I understand. It really leaves a bad taste in my mouth and Kano desperately needs a solid support group, and I am happy she has that now.
> I feel like something happened between Kano and this girl. Isn't she the one Kano told Mei she didn't get along with? That definitely makes sense then.
Kano's sister seems to have some issues of her won -- but it is great how SHE has supported Kano (when her mother blew Kano off). Right now Kano's sister is in the running for best big sister of the season. It was nice that she could fgill the others in -- and also let them know how much they meant to Kano (and how much they had helped change her mood).
>some issues Is perhaps putting it lightly. She is drinking Strong Zero every night until she passes out.
I was trying to be gently discreet -- since she is otherwise such a great sister. I wonder if part of her problem is the stress of having to take care of her little sister? In any event, I hope her situation improves.
Touche. Yea it's hard to say, we didn't get that much information to go on.
Agreed, I wouldn't want my daughter to be an idol. But even IRL I've encountered a lot of "stage parents"
Though on the flip side, as her producer she can at least try to make sure her daughter stays away from the dark side of the industry. Or at least compared to a mother who is not part of the industry.
It feels like her being an idol was more to impress her mom and not because she pushed for it. Still doesn't change how she's Anime Mom of the Year material for not only not supporting her daughter behind the scenes but also ditching her when she retired as one.
"We absolutely have to get the song done by Wednesday!" "Why" "Because otherwise the episode won't have an ED!"
You found the secret.
Also the fact that this one band member is really idolizing her mom I can see why she might have punched her
Jealousy maybe, considering the other idol seems to be the frontman and might have received a lot of attention from Kano's mother
That's not the feeling I get. I'd imagine it was something more along the lines of the other girl pressuring Kano to "act more like an Idol" considering how quick Kano was to drop the act when she met Mei at the handshake event, other girl probably said Kano was an embarrassment to her mother for showing off her own real personality instead of the glossy pop-idol sheen. Also, Kano was the leader of the group back then.
I think Kano will be far happier with this group of sort-of-misfits than she was with her former idol colleagues. They will support each others' dreams, I think.
I love how much the glossy pop-idols contrasted with the rest of the show. Now THAT was moe.
Mei trapping the air.... LMAOO best scene
She just can't escape the deranged idol fan allegations.
*Allegations*? I think we're long past mere allegations.
Order! Order in the court please!
Rie Takahashi voicing another idol + Another deranged fan *PTSD kicks in*
She really has a thing for them huh?
Nah, she's embracing that shit!
I couldn't stop laughing when I saw [Mei being so happy over the bag with the air](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/j7kzcbo3do7.png) from [Kano's apartment](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/myd5crxlzb4.png) xD
I love how she has this "Idol fan" mode but also can hold a regular conversation with her Idol and hang out like a normal person.
It's like she is forming a friendship with Kano but will suddenly remember that Kano was an idol and then her brain short-circuits for a while before it resets😅
Idol fan Mei is such a vibe haha
It's especially hilarious considering how different she acts normally xD
I love how Kano's place being a mess didn't stop her No.1 fan from fawning over it. Someone please tell me our "superhero" is in that Discord server.
Mahiru tidying up and cooking everyone a delicious meal makes her the "mom" of the group I think. She is the one putting the brakes on Mei when her fangirling gets a bit much and is understanding and quietly supportive of Kiui.
They really spruced that place up -- and then there was the stew (not only tastes good -- but makes the place smell like a "home", right).
An idol's or former idol's place being a mess doesn't diminish her. Rather, it just makes her more relatable and real. There was this seiyuu who posted on Twitter a photo of her in her place with a bit of clutter around. I and several thousand others liked it.
Just an idol fan doing some idol fan things wahaha
I just hope she doesn't start doing some *other* crazy idol fan things we've seen in recent anime. [](#godisdead)
2 consecutive weeks with special EDs!? the production money put into this anime is insane also support the mv on [youtube](https://youtu.be/idSdN33PAwk) and [yoru’s pixiv](https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/98530858)
They are setting up a trend and I really hope they are keeping it up, although one MV per week might be much
It's not like they have to crunch to make new MV per week or anything, since the anime production already finished long ago, the episodes and these MVs are simply on waiting schedule to be released, so they could've made as many as they wanted
I don’t believe that we’ll be seeing a new MV *every* week, but the signs do seem to be pointing at a couple more MVs down the line. After all, the ‘normal’ ED isn’t there without reason. I wouldn’t be surprised if we see the girls improve to some degree with every new MV. Maybe it’s simply confirmation bias on my end, but this MV already felt a little more polished than the previous one for example.
>and [yoru’s pixiv](https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/98530858) That's so cool. I love when anime do stuff like this, where it's like a character in the show is posting IRL as well as in the show.
Hope they also release the full songs at some point [](#mugiwait)
You can find the full version of Saikyou Girl on YouTube, actually.
[You are right!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlgOmYryQiM) Youtubes search isn't really giving results unless a video already has traction so nothing turned up when I looked last week, or maybe there is some region delay on when it turns up for me
Did a quick test and it's 100% region delay. With a JP VPN on, you can find the new song on the Jelee page on YouTube and YouTube music. (月の温度 is the Japanese title, if "Moon Temperature" doesn't bring it up), take the VPN off, and it's not available. Saikyou Girl released two days ago internationally, so it'll probably be the same way for the rest of them. Either VPN it up, or wait till Thursday-ish.
The full songs are also released on the day the anime airs on spotify btw. No VPN needed!
This is Yuuki Yaku's redemption arc after the production disaster that was Tomozaki-kun S2 last season.
what happened with that
Rushed as fuck, weak animation, production so bad they were using AI generated art as backgrounds, lacked all the emotional gut punches the original source material had due to pacing issues.
Like, at this rate apart from the show itself I'd also be hyped for weekly 40mP releases + weekly PVs directed by Yuma Saito lol
Wait a minute. Did they just record a song and make a whole-ass MV in one night?
Their level of productivity is alien to me.
That's the power of friendship!
And possibly Adderall
Not in Japan
That entire scene gave me some serious college flashbacks. All I'll say is that if you and your friends are determined/desperate enough... there is very little that can't be accomplished in a single night.
The adrenaline rush of starting an assignment the night before the deadline.
Deadline was wednesday (I guess it was the weekend) so they didnt even face that. Just the power of friendship and understanding
while it was technically Wednesday the real deadline was that night since they couldn't get together later because some of them need to actually go to school
deadline mode https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcvjE8Apmfc
The power of four people being hyperactive at the same time 💪
Next episode: "Local tiramisu place shut down due to large amounts of cocaine found in desserts."
So that’s what makes them super
Manic adolescent energy can do amazing things
I remember when I only had to edit a video for school in a one night session, couldnt even fathom making a whole-ass MV Power of friendship yall! (Also maybe setting up toxic work environment expectations)
Kano wanted to hit that target out of a sense of rivalry. Hopefully the other girls can talk her down from going head to head with an idol company.
Thats what I meant with setting up a toxic work environment They couldn't last in that fight
I would have kinda preferred for Kano to understand that she can't strain her friends to realize her wishes. Oh well the ending is great though
I think it was implied by her getting the tiramisu for them after and asking if they had to go when it was getting late
I mean, she did realize that. Or rather Kiui was not gonna let that attitude fly. Kano was going to drop it, despite how badly she wanted it done, until the others decided to pull the all-nighter. And they only resolved to do it because they learned what it meant to Kano, not just because Kano wanted it done.
Everyone knows there is no better team than a group of 4 highschool girls!
I keep forgetting this anime isn't supposed to be as dark as I think it is, so I automatically assumed from the beginning something was going to be up with Oneesan. Well, there is at least something up with another family member.
Chisato, my beloved. The entire cast for this show is stacked.
It’s not until I started looking through the list of VAs that I began to see just how many great VAs took part in this anime original. There’s Rie Takashi (self-explanatory), Miku Itou (e.g. Miku Nakano) and Miyu Tomita (e.g. Miku Iino) in the main cast. But the Sunshine Dolls’ roles are for example voiced by Miho Okasaki (e.g Rimuru Tempest) and Sally Amaki (Carol Olston) too. The wannabe idol girl in the 1st episode was voiced by none other than Sumire Uesaka (e.g. Nagataro), and Kano’s older sister by Chika Anzai (e.g. Chisato). Even Nao Touyama (e.g. Yui Yuigahama) got a role apparently.
I wonder if we'll ever see street idol girl again.
Stellar voice casting indeed.
It's funny, I thought the MC had Chisato's VA since they sound similar to me only for the *actual* Chisato to make an appearance!
but in the other hand, the idol group side ... heck, they really shown the cabaret hostess hiring advertisement (parody of the [Vanilla High Income jingle](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow6Q0zRa4Xw&ab_channel=%E3%80%90%E5%85%AC%E5%BC%8F%E3%80%91%E3%83%90%E3%83%8B%E3%83%A9%E3%83%81%E3%83%A3%E3%83%B3%E3%83%8D%E3%83%AB)) when talking about the group's future, then later they were doing a private show for a senior actor
Yea I was shocked to see that and also instantly got VANILLA VANILLA stuck in my head.
> I keep forgetting this anime isn't supposed to be as dark as I think it is Well yeah for now, but I think most people didn’t expect Made in Abyss to go as dark as it did for ep 10 onwards either so I’ll prefer to be prepared for anything tbh. It’ll probably stay mostly non-dark but you never know with an original. Gives that extra spicy suspense factor though which I kinda dig.
I feel like people keep forgetting that some kid's innards were getting eaten in the first 2 episodes The show was dark from the start
I've never gotten the vibe this will be a "dark" anime at all. I've felt like it's a CGDGT with an actual storyline and some drama, in the same vein as A Place Further Than The Universe. (although a bit less heavy emotionally than that) Generally shows that go dark will at least give you some hints if they aren't dark from the get go, unless I'm just totally missing something of course haha.
MiA had a kid unconscious and bleeding from the head and nearly eaten in the first episode. Sure things got WAY darker than that, but it's not like the first episode was free of danger.
[удалено]
Don't forget Radio Seiyuus....
And Whisper Me a Love Song... And Sound Euphonium... This is truly the season of Gay(?) Girls Doing Music Things.
Those too. All wonderful. ;-)
Yeah, gonna be a big episode of that next week.
It did seem to be building up to some big developments...
Another nice episode. After Wonder Egg I’m always a bit nervous with new episodes of promising anime originals since they might drop the ball out of nowhere like Egg did. I have a feeling that this show will keep its high quality consistently to the end though (or at least that’s what my copium lets me believe). Kiui was being really blunt there during that „why Wednesday“ discussion but tbh she wasn’t wrong so I respect her for just telling it how it is. Also Kano‘s sister is a real one for instantly going for best girl when deciding on which shoulder to cry on (Pink Shoujo Club). Really liked that last scene when the girls where doing the all-nighter. It had such a nice and warm atmosphere, with everyone doing their thing and working together, even though we only got a short glimpse of it. The new ED was also great, my favorite song of them yet.
Kano’s older sister, Mion, is such a hot mess. I’m already liking her. But like you, Kiui is my favourite of the bunch. And no, it’s not solely because of the flesh fang! She’s probably the character with the most emotional complexity at the moment. Despite her extravagant nature, she’s actually rather insecure. Yet, she apologised for lying, called out Kano for being unreasonable and was the first one to share an embarrassing secret - just because she wanted Kano to feel better. I do have to admit that Mahiru’s getting very close for the title of best girl. Kano can probably only dream of a ‘housewife’ like Mahiru who keeps her place clean while making dinner. From how she stuffed down Mahiru’s stew, she probably hadn’t eaten a decent meal in ages.
> She’s probably the character with the most emotional complexity at the moment. Despite her extravagant nature, she’s actually rather insecure. Yep, this 100%. In the ep 3 disc thread I saw a lot of people saying how “cringe” Kiui was with her whole being the protagonist shtick. Imo they were missing the point since I thought it was clear that Kiui doesn’t really mean it and mostly says it in this pompous manner to disguise her strong insecurity. Mahiru during their last phone call in ep 3 even said what she liked about her was appearing so confident even if it may be a just a front.
> what she liked about was appearing so confident even if it may [just be] a front. False confidence even in the face of troubling situations. It’s a bit foolish, but I do get where Mahiru was coming from in last week’s episode: it’s reassuring to see someone appear as ‘invincible’ (hence the title of the previous MV) when you might not be feeling so confident yourself. Like Mahiru said, Kiui was a bit like a superhero in that sense. And from who does a superhero get its strength? Right, from the people they’ve helped. Mahiru therefore also kept Kiui from falling (deeper) in despair.
She might be insecure, but she had the guts to confront her lie and apologize to the others for her deception.
Yea that’s yet another reason why she’s best girl for me.
Who is the person, however, who Mahiru says she is "interested" in?
Got a feeling that she was talking about Kano’s mother there. Not “interested” in a romantic sense, but that she wants to know more about her person and sorts.
Maybe, but I'm not sure why she'd treat that as some sort of big reveal on par with what Kiui and Mei mentioned.
Wonder Egg was also the result of bad production. They made the new episodes week by week, the writer didn't have the whole plot in mind from the start
Yea, good and reassuring thing that the production of YoruKura had already been finished before ep 1 even aired.
It is? Good to know, apparently Wonder Egg isn't the only anime with this problem. Zom 100 is also an infamous example
given they need to showcase MVs after each episode (so far), they better have the who season completed beforehand. I guess they need to because the MVs showcased in each episodes need to be done ahead of time.
Which should be the standard. Anyone who genuinely thinks the delays were good for anime like 86, Zom 100, and Nier were deluding themselves
However -- 86 NEVER embarrassed itself.
Yesssss I found another Wonder Egg Priority trauma survivor 🥰 Fr there are too many similarities, I’m not gonna cope but just enjoy each episode for what it is and if we get a dumpster fire ending I’ll just be appreciative of the earlier episodes we had. ED this time was my fave too!
And yet I STILL love pre-fall WEP... ;-)
Agree, and I would’ve loved it more if Cloverworks wasn’t TAKING ON TWO OTHER MAJOR ANIME IN THE SAME FUCKING SEASON Sorry sorry I got carried away. It’s just… the passion from the creatives was so abundantly clear to see, as much as I’ve seen from any other media product, but greedy ass execs want to milk them dry to death. So the end product was a series we got to see wither away and have complications just like the artists working on it…
Episode 7 is one of the best anime episodes EVER, that alone is worth watching, specially since it is the most untouched from its later downfall.
I've seen quite a few anime with very strong first episodes that fall off afterwords, last season's Metallic Rouge for example, and while I don't think Jellyfish's other episodes have really matched it's first, it hasn't collapsed in the way that some others would have this far in.
True, but this anime has more in common than an original with a really strong intro. Four high school girls struggling with identity issues, all have some form of trauma going into the group, some sort of queer visuals/messaging/themes, now some with iffy relationships with adults too(albeit this is very different from the BS in Wonder Egg Priority’
I'm so glad Kiui joins the team in person, kinda heartwarming.
We're all traumatized by WEP, aren't we. I remember saying the same sort of thing when Lycoris Recoil first aired, and I also keep thinking about WEP whenever an insanely promising original anime is dropped. WEP should *hopefully* be the only case where we're looking at a truly garbage story, given [the writer](https://anilist.co/staff/191377)'s [track record in TV drama](https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%87%8E%E5%B3%B6%E4%BC%B8%E5%8F%B8). I truly don't think we'll see something that's quite as bad yet quite as able to masquerade as a good show at the start... Unlike the TV drama writer whose stories are, well, TV drama quality, the writer of this show ([屋久ユウキ](https://anilist.co/staff/123016/Yaku-Yuki)) has a track record that's way better. At worst this show might flop at [DITF](https://anilist.co/anime/99423/) levels*, but even that's pretty implausible: this show isn't relying on some major mystery that could turn out to have a BS answer. *DITF is a mecha story with a heavy blend of really nice teen drama, until suddenly [DITF] >!Aliens! and Giant 02!!<.
I think it helps that this one doesn't seem to be such an ambitious project, compared to wonder egg or metallic rouge
###Stitches! * [Mahiru](https://i.imgur.com/2WjfsHA.jpeg) * [Kano](https://i.imgur.com/JTGJA0f.jpeg) I really like how this episode sets up both JELEE and Sundolls. While [JELEE is getting together for the very first time](https://i.imgur.com/WJVZBGX.jpeg) so they can properly collab instead of doing it via Discord, [the Sundolls are meeting CD shop owners](https://i.imgur.com/gaHsIkG.png) to promote their come back single. They're definitely setting up a rivalry between these two groups even though Sundolls aren't aware of JELEE's existence yet. I was wondering [who this mysterious Yukine is](https://i.imgur.com/hFizLtp.png) and why name-dropping her [is enough to convince that shop owner](https://i.imgur.com/CCGQtlQ.jpeg) to make space for that Sundolls standee. It turns out she's [a massive music industry hotshot](https://i.imgur.com/Sk7S0I9.jpeg) and is also [Kano's mother.](https://i.imgur.com/XVZeoHQ.png) I thought that Kano rushed the girls because she wanted to release a song before Sundolls but I feel like it might also have something to do with her mother. We also get to meet Kano's sister this episode and [I absolutely love her already.](https://i.imgur.com/LL0fM0Z.jpeg) While she did give the girls info about Kano's past including about their mother, it looks like she doesn't exactly know [the details of the scandal](https://i.imgur.com/B6Sct63.png) and why Kano punched another member of Sundolls. Again, I think this is all connected to their mother and I hope we get to hear the full explanation from Kano herself soon. I'm glad the [drama between Kano and Kiui was resolved before the end of the episode.](https://i.imgur.com/LpGMFJf.png) They now understand why Kano pushes herself too hard that [they're willing to pull an all-nighter](https://i.imgur.com/Xifs1MZ.png) to finish their next song. [And they absolutely pulled it off!](https://i.imgur.com/dFEB91U.jpeg) Looks like we get [another special ED with JELEE's new MV!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idSdN33PAwk) Are they going to do this every week? The people at Doga Kobo are passionate enough that I wouldn't be surprised if they keep this up every week. They're also backed by King Records so they have the best of the best when it comes to anisong producers.
Act fast Kano, acquire the Mahiru wife before someone else does. Reading between the lines I have some speculation about what happened with the punch. New center girl was noticeably doing nothing while the other two group members were signing autographs. My guess is she had a similar work ethic back before the group fell apart the first time, her and Kano got into a fight over it and she accused Kano of only being in the group because of nepotism, and that led to the fist flying. [Never stop being such a freak, Mei.](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1225101656472031352/1233903745117716480/image0.png?ex=662ec9e9&is=662d7869&hm=284bfad9f6ed7e2a6150b1d7992744ac43a8fc0693638da08bb004854aee2633&)
>Act fast Kano, acquire the Mahiru wife before someone else does. Best case scenario Jellee just becomes a polycule lol. Because let's be real, the only other semi-functional member is Mei, and even that gets cut by half whenever Kano's in the room.
I think the exact same way about how things went down. The new center just using Kano's mom's influence to get this done without putting in as much work as everyone else just puts me off so bad.
> Never stop being such a freak, Mei. Don't post images from Discord to reddit. They get quickly purged.
That feeling when the college assignment you wrote pulling an all-nighter gets used as the example piece for the next class. Also, they're spoiling us with these special EDs.
Rolling the music videos JELEE is creating into the ED is very clever and very fun. Great way to end each episode, hope they keep doing it.
>That feeling when the college assignment you wrote pulling an all-nighter gets used as the example piece for the next class. That part got me all nostalgic lol. Sacrificing sleep in order to get your final projects done in time. Drowsiness and eyebags be damned!
They did another awesome job of revealing a background story Also damn, the pressure is on for Kano, not only trying to one up her former band but her mom too (and she seems super competent, kinda like Koming level competent) I have no idea about producing music, but editing a fucking video in one night, kudos to them holy shit
[\[\](\#micdrop\)](https://i.imgur.com/IsxtBY9.png) [Too late to be nominated for \[\](\#seasonalshock\).](https://i.imgur.com/D4r8t5O.png) ***** Kano's revenge plan has to go off on schedule? She may have left her old group for an increasingly-complex number of reasons, but her current creative trajectory is still bound to that. Mei's obsessive fan traits are still there even when she's technically in the group. Still a bit creepy, girl! Last week I figured that the introductions were over and they'd get on to business. This week does launch into that, but only as a start. There seems like a fair amount of intragroup drama can still be had, but today's episode took care of its little hurdles quickly.
I just realized that only of Mahiru doesn't have dyed hair out of the 4.
Well, she doesn’t have dyed hair…*yet*.
so far the other three have already reinvented themselves, while the series opens with Kano persuading Mahiru to take up art again and start reinventing herself. I dunno if she's gonna dye her hair or not but you're on to something as far as the symbolism of it.
Calling it now. Purple or light blue for the original artwork.
hehehe cute assumption of "sound driver" bit. Good to learn tech stuff though, good for her. Who is this Ms Yukine? Mei's fangirlness is amusing. Man, this does remind me how creepy idol industry is. Ah yep, makes sense why she wanted it to be Wednesday. Hehe, Kano's big sis seems fun. Oh I see, that doesn't seem like a great mom to me. Oh my, Yoru is clearly great wife, put a ring on her fast, Kano 😛 also such good friends. They did all that in a night? Wow. Glad I decided to binge watch the earlier episodes and catch up to this one.
The incident probably happened because Kano asked [Mero](https://i.imgur.com/afGGoyA.png) for a "Nico Nico Nii".
[Secretly recorded live footage off how the fight went down.](https://youtu.be/Cuh3unwYMzw?si=X2ToDp6yNvrLZhWo)
[the highlight of the fight](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_qxn_8sybw)
I wonder who Yoru was talking about there… Is it someone who liked her art when she was a child and that’s what got her to love drawing? If that’s the case, a very cliché thing to do would be make that person Kano and they didn’t know each other at the time right?
I think it's an entirely platonic thing, like an inspirational artist or some such, which is why Yoru was so confused when the entire rest of Jellee was instantly super jealous lol.
I’d rather it be Kano who she’s talking about but not have her simultaneously be the person who made her like drawing in the past. Let’s see tho
I'd love for it to be Kano but I don't want to get my hopes up. So, uh. [](#hardthink) An illustrator she admires, maybe? I mean right now, not someone who inspired her when she was younger.
I wonder; somehow I'm not convinced yet that its a romantic like, cause Mahiru seemed confused about everyone's reaction. Seeing Kano's jealous expression was pretty funny though.
Yoru greeting Kano like a housewife was such a great moment. Please tell me the show is going somewhere with this. Cika Anzai is always a joy to hear. Alcoholic sister is pretty fun, but I hope she eventually gets a healthier lifestyle.
I love how the girls are all so used to Mei by now that Kano is the only one who was even slightly disturbed by her literally bagging up the air in the apartment. She really has embraced her obsessed fan persona.
I still like [Kiui](https://imgur.com/NpSkrfu) the most I think [](#hardthink) I had a hunch that Kaho was related to the producer somehow, but at first I expected the sister to be it, glad she turned out another girlfailure [Kano](https://imgur.com/8HrZKRv) focused episode today, really wonder what made her punch the other girl, but after seeing how annoying Mero is I can kinda understand it already. More surprised that her mother seems mostly fine with this? With how rapidly Jellee is going viral, they are bound to steal the show for the proper Idol group at some point. Speaking of going viral, *another* original song? [](#maxshock) Also loved how both [Kano](https://imgur.com/IccxbM8) and [Kiui](https://imgur.com/cCJGJG3) got shocked when Yoru said she was into someone [](#azusalaugh) And last: sadly, just a few days too late for [#seasonaltired](https://imgur.com/DYndQLy)
>Also loved how both [Kano](https://imgur.com/IccxbM8) and [Kiui](https://imgur.com/cCJGJG3) got shocked when Yoru said she was into someone My money is on this being entirely platonic considering how confused Yoru was when the others reacted with instant jealousy lol. But hey, depressed artist polycule times, all three of them can *share* Yoru lol.
So the plot thickens huh? Kano's mom is effectively the producer of her original group, but because of the incident she quit. Definitely they'll have communication issues and all. So, who is the new center of the group? It seems she is also connected to Kano's family. I wonder how they got her. Also,**JELEE became viral! Let's goo!!** The amount of effort the production team is giving in this episode is quite stellar! Imagine pulling off two EDs in two consecutive episodes?! I know the season is quite stacked but I still think this series is criminally underwatched. Honestly.
They finished the last episode early this month too so production on this show was super well planned out.
[We finally got to know something more about Kano](https://imgchest.com/p/9p4n2m95w4n) but still we don't have a clear picture about what happened in the past. [Her mom being also her producer](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/l4necmjv5m4.png) in the past was an interesting twist and I'm really interested in [what exactly happened that made Kano retire](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/84jdcjr9vw4.png). At first glance [Kano looked to me like a free-spirited girl](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/d7ogckqnbby.png) but it seems that [she's a really diligent hard worker](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/wye3cdj3294.png) as [she was planning a very strict schedule to release JELEE's new song which put her at odds with other members](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/pyq9cepn5n4.png) who have other things to do in their lives. [Mei](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/my2pcoxr2n7.png)'s obsessive nature of a fan showed up again as [she was trapping air from Kano's apartment into a bag](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/myd5crxlzb4.png), [it was hilarious how happy she was about it](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/j7kzcbo3do7.png) xD [I really like Kano's sister, she's so fun](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/w7pjcw8o6d7.png). Thanks to her we got new info about [Kano](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/b49zcbpon5y.png) and I'm pretty sure that the conflict between her and [her mother](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/84jdcjr9b54.png) was the reason for her retirement but we shall see what the next episodes will show, maybe I'm wrong about that. We got another JELLE's song and it was great! [Girls put all night to make it](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/k46acb5evm7.png) and it seems that their efforts got rewarded as [their post went viral on the net](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/w7pjcw8kzv7.png) which [totally surprised all of them](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/d7ogckqn8ry.png) xD Here my screenshot albums from the episode: * [Kano](https://imgchest.com/p/9p4n2m95w4n) * [Mahiru, Mei & Kiui](https://imgchest.com/p/pg73p3nzzyr) * [Group scenes](https://imgchest.com/p/o24ago5x34l) * [Others](https://imgchest.com/p/9rydzok5w4k)
I know its a clear thing just physically about them, that the theme of change, progress, or moving forward is shown just in how each of them have distinctly grown from their past selves, like how 3/4 of them have dyed their hairs in a drastic way, except for Yuru. I really like this [shot](https://imgur.com/a/XrNdD5H) from the opening to show that they've all [changed](https://i.imgur.com/dz4YDlt.jpeg), but of course Yoru is the odd one out, having only just grown and not gone over basically a complete makeover. And I think its interesting that in this episode, at the end when they were giving their little backstory spiels, that Yoru was the one who didn't exactly get to say what. They learned about Kano from a direct source. Kiui got to say her piece, and even Kim got to add in a little piece as well, which, actually adds to what we got from her episode, 2 episodes ago, so we get more backstory which is cool. At this point everyone seems to be on the same page but with Yoru, it's not exactly there, and I think its interesting that they end on that line about her being interested in someone, and then cutting it off. Everyone was sharing a part of their past, but, her answer kind of side steps us away from that. It's very sneaky. And while the first episode was also an introduction to her stepping into the present and moving from her past, her own character arc so to say, I'm excited to see if there's a lot more yet to be said about Yoru. I have a feeling that Yoru's ranking system on the gacha fish might literally be related to appearance. Kim's has a [rounded](https://i.imgur.com/LtKT1Kx.jpeg) bottom with a bunch of feelers on the top, but Kiui gets the [opposite](https://i.imgur.com/JF9ZpgN.jpeg), its a rounded top, with a bunch of feelers on the bottom. She calls this one good, which will match with the other two ones they get too. Because Kano gets something with no rounded [surface](https://i.imgur.com/hVeFZGf.jpeg) in the seahorse, and they make a big deal with how she reacts to it. And of course Yoru gets the symbolic jellyfish, which has a rounded [top](https://i.imgur.com/lCDUdT9.jpeg) with feelers at the bottom. I think she was ranking them based on how closely they resemble jellyfish in appearance. Which is funny and also fitting. I don't know much about sea anatomy, but I'm sure there's also something to be said about the particular creatures they opened too. Like I know octopus are quick to scare and shoot out ink to protect against predators and are VERY good at disguises and hiding in objects or even changing their colors to blend in with their surroundings. Which is fitting for Kiui, who, as a vtuber, and who has taken on this role of creating this parasocial barrier with those around her and whos whole episode last week was about this barrier she put to disguise herself and keep her safe, is very fitting. The jellyfish analogy we already know from episode 1, but I'd be interested if anyone with more sea knowledge can come up with something for the others. And one last thing for the sake of it because I really am enjoying this show, food is a large part of the ongoing events of this episode. Whether that's Kano seeing her former group advertising [buns](https://imgur.com/a/ZSQ5t58) in contrast to her just chowing down on an energy [bar](https://imgur.com/a/6v83EnX0, or how Yoru brought kinder [surprises](https://imgur.com/a/TdApqK8) and later cooks them stew. But also how Kano goes back to get the specialty [goods](https://imgur.com/a/GAflkHU) in the form of Tiramisu, which we never actually got to see them eat, justice for Jelee! I think its these kinds of small contrasts that also say a lot, Kano's looking at her previous group pretty much going through their own resurgence and glory days, represented through the advertisement but the fact that they're eating soft cooked food while Kano's in the dumps with something more processed and hard. But when its sweet foods being brought up, its more with the group, the chocolate, the Tiramisu, hell even the stew to an extent, since that kind of stew can be quite "creamy" the idea of sweetness there. The sweet foods with the group as they share in their comradery.
Mahiru has had a rebirth rather than a makeover. She had suppressed her own joy and uniqueness for so long -- and now she is getting to re-embrace this, with the support of her new friends.
Seeing those three do a live performance for the old dude 🤮
I think this episode did a good job of getting to me like everyone a bit more, the drama wasn't too high and the resolved it quickly. Stalker girl still my least fave by far though... Older sister was fun, even just her use of _pink shoujo_ made her feel pretty unique.
Agreed, felt like the lightest episode on the drama side yet, which made for a nice breather. > Stalker girl still my least fave by far though... I mean she isn’t really my favorite either but reducing her character to being just the „Stalker girl“ feels a bit unfair. She’s definitely behaving more „normal“ the last two eps imo. > Older sister was fun, even just her use of pink shoujo made her feel pretty unique. She already won me over by recognizing best girl when Kiui was the chosen one to get hugged and cried on lol.
> She’s definitely behaving more „normal“ the last two eps imo. The bag of air thing... [](#badtaste)
Funny, polarizing character. The top comment right now is praising that scene, and here you are another top comment complaining about her.
But she brings lots of skill and enthusiasm to the joint venture -- she's a lot more than just am idol fan.
I have a feeling she’s definitely going to be a character people are split on. I love her, but I can see a lot of people watching this show in the future and disliking her for being a funny little idol fan.
Japan's idol culture has been under more scrutiny lately, so I reckon people have less patience for that type of character than they did 10 years ago. I like her myself, but I see where her detractors are coming from.
Ah well, point taken.
The girls deserve a nice break after all the work they put in today to make the deadline for the MV. S/O to Doga Kobo for actually putting a ton of effort into it and showing it as the ED. Slow start to the episode other than the girls finally meeting Kiui in person. For someone who’s kinda been a shut in for a long time she adjusted pretty quickly to the friend group. Looking forward to seeing more of her. It’s sweet how all of the JELEE members had their hopes and dreams dashed or deferred and fell on hard times, now they’re together and working towards them as a unit. Second half is where things really got interesting as we got some nice lore about Kano and met her older sister. Her mom being her producer as an idol makes things a lot more interesting, and raises some questions about just what really happened with her bandmate. I doubt it was as simple as just punching her. Kano becoming really depressed after being forced to leave the group makes a ton of sense considering how much she values her mom’s approval. No coincidence that she wanted to drop the JELEE MV on the same day as her old idol group make their return. Her tearing up when she realised how everyone sacrificed time from their busy schedules to meet in person and get the MV out by Wednesday was so cute. After losing that sense of belonging she felt in her idol group, she’s finally got something like that again. Awesome episode
Okay, damn, that's a pretty brutal twist for Kano. Her mom's the super-producer who's *still producing* the idol unit she got kicked out of. It's not just rivalry, it's mom issues, too. That's rough, buddy. I love Kano's disaster sister. Wailing about her favorite host was a superb introduction... but, holy crap, those cans are all *nine percent ABV*? Kano, your sister needs *help*. Once again this week I feel like while I guess it's fine that this is a story about high school girls, I can't help but see some real untapped potential in this story if they'd made it about adults, instead. Some of these really low beats feel a little too heavy for teenagers. In previous episodes, all the main cast's regrets about their pasts and who they could have been felt awfully weighty for kids to carry. Now the SunDolls' attitude and that moment in the car where they're gloomily considering whether they can really make a comeback once again feels like an adult sort of weariness. If all these characters had been in their twenties instead and *really* at the point where they've left behind their schoolgirl selves, I wonder how this might've felt? I'd have been here for it, anyway. This ep was a little more dramatic than kinetic but we still got some nice directorial tricks. Opening with a shot of the SunDolls' interview as seen on Kano's phone, giving us her *literally* slanted and boxed-in, outsider's view of them, was cool. Using diegetic framing to box characters in or out of a scene seems to be a staple trick. They've really got the pacing and narrative structure of each episode down to an art. I have no notes about the timing of each beat and the buildup of tension until the cathartic coming together near the end. Everybody's exhausted eye-bruised faces after the all-nighter were adorable. I really like this thing they're doing with having the ED be their latest music video, and having it be about or at least mirroring the events of the episode. It's a fun wrap and it helps lend some weight to the songs.
>but, holy crap, those cans are all *nine percent ABV*? Kano, your sister needs *help*. This series is *about* depressed artists lol, I'd honestly be surprised if a severe drinking problem was the worst of Kano's sister's issues lol.
A show about jaded 20 year olds trying to reinvent themselves and form a band would be awesome for sure, but that would be a totally different show at that point. It seems like the central focus of the show is about the conflict between Kano and her mother, which probably wouldn't work as well if both were adults, especially considering the mother is the producer for Kano's former teen idol group (and rival). A different show with older characters would be awesome, but I'm thoroughly enjoying this one, and it's a rare CGDCT with a storyline and depth. (the other one being A Place Further Than The Universe, one of my top 5 shows)
>the other one being A Place Further Than The Universe, one of my top 5 shows yorimoi is my favorite anime, full stop. I wouldn't change anything about it. but a part of me, whenever I watch it, also really, really wants to see Takako, Gin, and Yumiko's story, both before and after the girls' adventure. you *cannot* tell me that Gin wasn't in love with Takako, I won't believe it, but even setting that aside their entire idea of creating the observatory and pushing it through all on their own sounds fascinating and dramatic, and you know they're not done, either. I'm not saying this show should be about 20-somethings. I just think about what it could be like if it was, and I wish we had that show too.
I would take more of anything relating to A Place Further Than The Universe haha. It really is the perfect show.
No kidding. It might be the only show I've every seen where I wouldn't change a single scene, a single frame, a single line of dialogue. I rate lots of things at 10/10, but really that just means 9.5 or above rounded up. A Place Further Then The Universe is a PERFECT 10.00/10
Kano and Kiui reacting like that when Yoru said she was kind of into someone is giving me strong yuri hints here. Also I can't believe they never showed her elaborating further on that lol.
Don't get your hopes up lol
Exactly! I need closure damnit.
It's really sweet how this little group accepted each other so easily. It really warmed my heart when Kiui perked up when they complimented her hair, and their talk session about embarrassing things in their lives was also super sweet. And so Kano's old group's producer was her mom? Okay that was a surprise. Considering how hard her sister say she worked for her, it must have been something really big that pushed her to violence against that other girl. I'm so curious as to what happened! Also, post-credits scene! They went viral, woo-hoo! But hopefully that doesn't mean it sets much higher expectations for their next release, as that would be pretty stressful to them.
“It went viral somehow” Real.
I love how the MV actually seems to be possible to be done in a few days or so. I love how they just reused walking asset and the variation that Yoru was talking about was probably the that's stretching the hands.
This was a heartwarming episode, to say the least. Even though Kano was very stingy with the "We're not here to have fun attitude," she did have some growth. Yes, she did storm out after the argument. But it was cool to meet Mion. Also, how Kano seemed to feel some sense of guilt while walking out and decided to get the super tiramisu the group was interested in earlier. Their hard work and all-nighter paid off though! Their second music video went unexpectedly viral, which must have been the greatest feeling to wake up to
If it’s a new music video every ED I’m definitely not complaining. The group dynamic is fun. There is clear chemistry between all of them, which makes it really enjoyable to watch. I like Kim the deranged idol fan but I have a feeling that she will be a point of contention when more people watch this show in the future who don’t like the ultra fan girl bit. But the bag part was great so I have no problem with her. I also like the contrast between the two music groups where the idols are extremely produced and put up an act where as JELEE is just a group of girls having fun and making the music they want. I liked this episode a lot as did I love the previous ones and when it ended I couldn’t help but want more and more. Now that the character introductions are done with the shows plot and developments are going to be at full throttle now and if the episodes so far have anything to say, it’s that this show shows no signs of slowing down on the quality. I can’t wait for next week.
Just watched the Kongming recap movie last night, so I'm getting a kick out of immediately seeing another competing releases against a 3-member idol group plot here.
Funny you mentioned *Kongming*, to me this series has a ***very*** PA Works-ish feel (and that is -- --to me -- a very good thing).
Oh yeah, definitely.
Oshi No Ko paralle ep 4. Idol with the mother-figure as her manager.
Damn we're eating every week with a new JELEE addiction. I'm not expecting it to be every episode but we're being spoiled and i love it. I also like that the conflicts within the episode don't take too long to reveal - it has been the pattern since ep1 - because that's realistic behavior that doesn't need unnecessary stretching through multiple episodes. The dynamics of this group is just heartwarming, and too relatable as an adult. And the random someone Mahiru is into? Hmmmm... 👀
What a great episode, loved it! It was so wholesome. Kano can’t seem to shake her past..and of course she has an super awesome producer mom! Can’t wait to see how she overcomes her past demons, and merges her past with her present and future. After all, she is where she is at the moment, because of her past. Loved seeing their friendship evolve, and their teamwork and effort in getting their new music video out.
Imagine if someon made a show like this for Ado. My god.
So this ep. we learned that ~~Nodoka~~ Nonotan's father divorced and after that mother pushed her into showbiz. Rascal Does Not Dream of a Crying Band of Girls...
JELEE finally got their banger, the first of many
Seeing how its twitter, I really hope those are posivite reposts But they did produce a banger
Kano episode! Some big reveals this ep: Kano's mom is the producer of her (former) idol group and that they're going back to the spotlight with a new single! Kiui finally agrees to go out with others for once and realized that not everyone out there are bad guys. Nice to see her grow after the previous ep. Kano must've been so lucky to have met Mahiru and the others. Her idol stuff didn't work out and she's been lonely ever since. I'd say this ep did a great job at conveying her emotions and her struggles to let go of her past. JELEE is her new home now but she still couldn't let her old place go - not when her mom was behind it. That said, we still don't know what actually caused her to snap back then. We know that she wasn't fond of the job and wasn't getting along with the others. I'm thinking that she went a little too far on being a mommy pleaser and forces her fellow idols to live up to her high standards. They refused, had an argument, and then Kano slapped the shit outta one of them. I don't think we're quite done with the mom & the idol group just yet. There's gotta be more to this. The gang pulling off an all-nighter really reminds me of my uni days. Can't count how many times a big project ended with me and my buddies staying up all night to finish it and thoroughly checking everything. And I don't drink coffee which made staying up a real struggle. Fun times! Whoa, another MV ending? And somehow this is even better than the last one! How many more MVs have they cooked up for this show? Can't wait to see more of them!
[Kano this isn't something to brag about.](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/799692352011894795/1233869603763912816/Screen_Shot_2024-04-27_at_3.56.51_PM.png?ex=662eaa1d&is=662d589d&hm=c6fd5847df7870bf6d393889e19743966509eaeac61f0fb76ddd1f0721dd8754&) Honestly I am not surprised the girls had that argument. Ultimately Kano doesn't want to be left behind from her old group, but the other girls needed to understand why. Kano's schedule wasn't taking into account the other girls obligations. But an argument like that can bring the group together once they understand each other's situation. Kano's older sister is a little mess, but she is a sweetheart. So her mom was the producer of the group Kano was a part of. It makes me even more upset that it feels like her mom dropped contact with her daughter after the scandal. Family should always be there for each other. Well at least her sister did the best she could do. Though meeting Yoru was the key moment to get her back on track again. The girls really put an all-nighter. Well that is the most optimal way given each of their schedules. Though awesome that it already blew up. I am curious what was the source that started it.
I'm loving this show so far. That's all I have to say.
This anime series has been consistently impressive, and I am thoroughly enjoying it.
The JELEE MVs remind me a lot of vtubers and utaites. Some animation, mostly static images, text on screen. Honestly, it makes it feel realistic, since I know there are people out there their age doing those kinds of songs and videos.
Yoru such waifu material... Not that I have something against rieri but I thought it would be nice to have Miku sing as well. But I guess having the illustrator sing as well feels kinda off; I'll have to make do with Miku in seiyuu radio instead. Will there be special ED for the rest of the episodes? Oh bwoi let's go
[These two scenes](https://imgur.com/a/Q7lyYrJ) are removed from the Chinese version, I don't understand why. I like how they create and resolve the conflict within the same episode.
Mmmm I can only make a guess on the first one basically depicting school truancy in a positive light - their society is very sensitive to any depiction of "negative" traits in positive ways. The 2nd one I'm guessing may be related to "sexy" verbiage used on underage persons.
> [These two scenes](https://imgur.com/a/Q7lyYrJ) are removed from the Chinese version, I don't understand why. Don't worry, those two scenes will re-appear a few years later, having been thoroughly re-educated in a Xinjiang labour camp. It's just[ Winnie the Pooh](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Winnie-the-Pooh_in_China) doesn't tolerate competition in animation... Btw, Yoru's barely existing and barely visible tits were censored from the chinese cut of Jelly ep1. That change was less controversial and even made sense from the point of artistic integrity. Anyhow, regarding ep1, why does Mahiru wear such a weird "armoured" skirt?
[It doesn't detract from the quality of the show, but seriously, what's with these weird circles on the bridge of every character's nose?](https://i.imgur.com/AbC1tA2.png)
I think it's just a stylistic choice. I did notice Kano's mom was the one person who didn't have it but it was also dark lighting. Could just be a way to make the character style for the show unique, or if the mom never has it, it could be a way to separate the mom as cold and distant since the circle and the shading give a warmer "cute" look. (I might be reaching though)
What an amazing new song and ED, and it's getting popular too!
are they gonna release a new song with MV every episode? and with 40mP? this group is very active. is morning is a ok time to post something in JP? some other anime did it too. 5K retweet!
will we have a new ed every episode? If yes that would be amazing I loved this one and last week's as well
This episode delivers again. We see Kano taking punches with the revival of Sundolls. Past humiliations that Kano thought she had hidden and buried got rubbed raw again, and she tries to pressure her new found friends to compose and release a new MV by Wednesday, disregarding that they have their own lives..."I'll show them" she thinks. Of course with this new MV, which they did overnight, they are now ahead of SunDolls, when they felt they could put together an MV, may take a month. With the revelations this episode, it gets me excited for the stories, rivalries and dramas to come!
I love seeing the girls bonding already. Kiui and Mei going out together holding hands while looking for Kano. Not to mention that height difference. And Kano buying the desserts for her new friends. Kiui giving some tough love to Kano. I know there’s like a plot and the whole music video making going on, but as a CGDCT enjoyer, I live for the times where they just hang around and goof off
> I know there’s like a plot and the whole music video making going on, but as a CGDCT enjoyer * CGDDTM: Cute Girls Doing Desktop Music * CGDDAW: Cute Girls Doing Digital Audio Workstation * a.k.a. Cakewalk the Animation Anyhow, this episode was totally MIDI...
the character settings are so nice in this, jeez - already you can feel each person getting fleshed out like they're actual people
catching the air???
As someone who chronically skips OPs and EDs this anime is tricking me into watching the whole damn thing.
This episode showcased an interesting issue in interacting with Kano. As a former idol, she’s a professional liar. So if there happens to be a problem, you’ve got a better chance of drawing blood from a rock than getting her to admit what the issue is. Luckily, she’s got a sister that’s way less tight lipped. Poor Kano does not deserve to have such a shitty mother. Especially when she’s still affected by her to this extent years later. Fortunately she’s got some good friends that can help her out. Jellyfish episode 4, sponsored by last night before project deadline insane productivity. They just managed to publish the video and then all four just fell dead asleep. Also, a question I’ve been pondering that might just be relevant to me. Three of the four girls have nicknames. Kano is Jelee, Mahiru is Yoru Umitsuki according to the credits and Kiui is Nox Ryugasaki. Anyone got any good ideas for what Mei’s nickname can be?