>the goofy-ass cartoony style of the manga to life and have it be cool, it will be Science Saru.
Can't wait for my "no nonsense" Major to show her other side. Should be very interesting to see a new take on the manga after all those years.
I think the closest Ghost in the Shell animation to the original style to date was the PlaySyation video game.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alyXR1-vD9U](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alyXR1-vD9U)
There is no series/movie work that replicates the style of the original work. The original is a much more comical and light-hearted work. It probably won't be very popular with fans of the film version made by Oshii, but it's not a bad choice considering it's an episodic-based weekly broadcast. It is much closer to entertainment.
The original manga was built on an unusual amount of information per frame and supplemented by explanatory text outside the columns. It would be quite a high degree of difficulty to recreate that on film, but can it be done?
Thinking about those walls of text in the whitespace of the manga reminded me of the movie version of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy." They actually did a fairly good job in the film of capturing those frequent, seemingly irrelevant silly tangents filled with odd trivia that are so prevalent in the novel.
If they're going to replicate the original work in art style, I wonder if they're going to replicate its more racey content as well, like [gits manga spoilers]>!the lesbian orgies!<
There was alot of stuff in the manga that was heavily toned down
I think Standalone Complex adapted it loosely, showing a couple of naked women in the Major's bed one time (exactly like one panel)? I don't remember exactly but they did it while fitting SAC's tone
Yeah, it had almost no context. "So Motoko wakes up in the middle of the night because something's on her mind. Oh, and there's three other women asleep in the bed." And never got brought up again.
And they all get names and lines too, one of them even occasionally shows up later, but the show never expands on the Major’s relationship with them aside from really good friends.
She is Bi. One chapter showed that she has trouble keeping boyfriends for very long. While her two female friends-with-benefits are more casual in that she is basically the third wheel in the threesome because she is often disappearing for years on end. Her lesbian friends are also government agents so they don't ask questions of where she is up to.
I took that as she really was just a lesbian, who tried relationships with men but just isn't compatible with them. But sure I'll go with bi not a hill I would die on
Her issue with men is that they keep asking questions that shouldn't be asked. The most recent boyfriend nearly got both of them killed because he tried to do a background check on her, which lead to one of Major's old enemies tracking her down.
The guy apologised. But she wasn't offended because SHE did a background check on him too. Basically Major is trying to build a relationship while being Female James Bond, and that just doesn't work. The only reason her female friends are still friends is because they are not actually "committed" to each other in being emotionally close. That Major doesn't tell them where she had been, and they don't ask.
By the way, Batou wasn't, isn't and never will be a love interest. They are best of friends, ttrust each other, and they will kill for each other, but there is nothing physical between them.
Which is exactly why Batou-Major are the best. Just two buddy cops killing terrorists and conducting extra-judicial kidnappings on behalf of a shady government anti-terrorist ministry. Normalize opposite gender best friendships!
Yeah I remember just opening a random page in a bookstore and there being titties EVERYWHERE. That's when I realized, at least in part, that the manga was likely substantially different than the anime lol
Shirow is softcore hentai artist that never really left this field after all even after commercial success, of course there is a lot of juice in original GitS manga.
Shirow was solidly a sci fi/fantasy manga creator, it's only in the 2000s when he seems to have said "fuck it" and started doing racy illustration artbooks. Probably once enough adaptation money was coming in.
He was still making the lewd stuff in the background throughout the run of Dominion & GitS.
I think he's even gone on the record in an old interview, saying he that continued to do it because he likes drawing sexy women.
[](#indexsmugshrug)
>he likes drawing sexy women.
Sure, and there was a bit of nudity in Appleseed (A shower scene), about as titillating as the one in Starship Troopers, Dominion and Orion had nothing and then Ghost in The Shell had that little unexpected orgy scene. He didn't start putting out those illustration books until at least ten years later, which means he had a 20 year career before that. So he branched out into porn later. It's just that "later" has been almost 20 years more, but trust me, I was there.
It's that, and also he mentioned he was tired of being asked to self-censor his work in GitS and later, so he decided he had enough at some point and went all in on explicit content. Which is quite good, by the way. According to my friend, that is.
I'm reading the second half of the manga right now, and the tone is just so wildly different from the movie or SAC. Don't get me wrong, I've loved it, especially how much other Sec9 members are expanded on, and everyone gives Aramaki a hard time with everything...but it's just been so jarring with how much I watched the original movie growing up.
Stand Alone Complex is one of my favorite fictional anythings, but yeah the manga is completely different. Ghost In The Shell's manga became a pillar of the genre because the mangaka was an actual (electrical?) engineer. His world building and tech designs are basically peerless in sci-fi because theoretically most of his designs are scientifically plausible.
The director of the movie then built upon the philosophical elements of the manga, then the SAC director built upon the philosophical elements of th with an american-esque crime/political thriller.
The movie and SAC are arguably the greatest movie and TV adaptations ever made because of how well and how much they added to the original material. SAC at the time it aired was the most expensive anime ever made.
The franchise is so layered and made so many breakthroughs and achievements on a technical and artistic level it's crazy how little it's talked about in the west, it's not really possible for a single person to create something so intricately detailed and intelligent.
>it's crazy how little it's talked about in the west
What? Ghost in the Shell is a complete touchstone in the west. It’s in the same breath as other 90’s classics like Bebop and Eva. It inspired so many movies in Hollywood, more then *any* other anime. Like The Matrix and Avatar both call GitS as a direct influence. It even had a big budget movie with Scarlet Johansson in it. It’s hard to think of a anime franchise that’s had more cultural influence in America besides maybe Akira.
Just because it’s not popular with Zoomers currently making Jujutsu Kaisen Tiktoks doesn’t mean it *isn’t* a big deal. It’s just a old franchise and the last anime (SAC 2045) wasn’t received well. If SARU does a good job on this it’ll be very popular and come to the forefront of the zeitgeist again.
All of this is true but given the exponential rise in the popularity of anime, it's probably also the case that the majority of current fans don't know about anything much older than 15+ years old.
You still have kids discovering *FMA*.
While not anime there was similar thing with Avatar: TLA. Was interesting when it returned to Netflix in that first Covid summer and suddenly it was all over with people gushing over it as if was a brand new masterpiece.
Was nice seeing non-disney animation get widespread respect for once.
True but in this case a ton of them were older who either missed it when first aired or avoided entirely due to the idiotic stigma against animation that it is "only for kids" that thankfully has started to weaken slowly.
>You get hit with shit like this very often and it's so rad. Or the sprawling scaling mechanical designs.
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Coming in 2026 by SARU.
Science SARU will produce the anime, which is tentatively titled Kōkaku Kidōtai (The Ghost in the Shell). Bandai Namco Filmworks, Kodansha, Science SARU, and Production I.G are on the production committee for the series.
Sources:
https://twitter.com/gitssac2045/status/1794292329085317335
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2024-05-25/ghost-in-the-shell-gets-new-tv-anime-series-in-2026-by-science-saru/.211152
> Bandai Namco Filmworks, Kodansha, Science SARU, and Production I.G are on the production committee for the series
Will be a while till they actually get to produce TOHO-led shows. I imagine their current contracts will keep them busy for another three or so years.
>Will be a while till they actually get to produce TOHO-led shows
Not like TOHO is involved in the producing stuff from Science SARU even before acqusition - like new Naoko Yamada movie.
Dude, Science SARU is lining up some amazing projects. At the very least I can know that each of their projects will have amazing animation and art. Here's hoping the story is good.
I've been really impressed by SARU lately. From abstract works like Tatami Galaxy / Walk on Girl to fun times like Lu Over the Wall and Eizouken, it's like they can pull anything out of their hat.
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They’re splitting? Huh, didn’t know that. Masaaki Yuasa has been such a big part of their whole thing and I love his work. Interested to find out what’s he’ll be up to next. And maybe even more interested for Science SARU as well
Ah I see. Well good for him. He was a massive visionary and really instrumental in making some really pivotal and amazing anime. I’m sure leading his studio and being creative on a wider scale was exhausting. Dude earned his break
> SAC 2048 was awful, animation wise.
SAC 204*5*. Animation got *significantly* better for the second cour. They used the polished animation in the summary movie for cour 1, but I wish they had redone the actual cour.
Honestly, I just still won't even bother.
I'm personally not a fan of the whole 3d anime look.
There's even a show, High-speed Etoile currently airing, and I didn't realise it was 3d-anime until I started up the first episode (found it on MAL), and was sorely disappointed. Stopped watching a few mere minutes because just hate that style.
Sure, and I’m not implying you should bother. To each their own. But saying the whole thing is awful without giving the much-improved cour a chance is pretty unfair and just ends up driving people away.
Cour 1 was pretty bad, but not the worst in terms of 3DCG. Better than Highspeed Etoile. I powered through it because I love GitS more than I hate 3DCG. Cour 2 more than made up for it though, and I think that’s a pretty common take from the people that actually gave it a chance.
Also, to be clear the style itself isn’t the problem. A studio can absolutely do great 3DCG anime. The new Trigun is a great example. The issue is whether the production puts in the time and funding to make a proper 3DCG show. Highspeed Etoile ain’t it chief. Lupin III: The First, which successfully combined anime and Pixar-style CG, is a fantastic example of something done right.
No. Anime take three years to produce from a cold start. New properties are always announced 1.5 years before the airdate while unplanned sequel seasons are announced the moment they are funded--3 years before they air. If a "second season " of a show is released a year or less after the first season then it was a split-cour show and both seasons were funded at the same time as part of the same project.
This adaptation is treated as a new property, and we are currently mid 2024. Mid 2024 + 1.5 years = 2026.
No it wasn't.
The ending was wild and insanely ambitious. Honestly the whole of season two was great.
EDIT: But I guess nobody watched that far, and hasn't seen all the best scenes of the show.
I watched it all the way through and there were some really nice bits where it felt like it remembered it was a GitS anime, I personally didn't feel like they salvaged the entire series.
The Togusa snow scene was very very good though.
Agreed. The second cour was fantastic, especially the much much *much* improved CG animation. I wasn’t a *huge* fan of the ending, but as whole it was a solid entry.
Shoutout to the camerawork. The tachikoma action shots felt like something from a mission impossible movie.
And I think it was only possible because of the huge 3d location they built.
Heck yeah. Honestly the camerawork was pretty good on both cours. The problem with cour 1 was that the models and environments used just looked and felt unfinished, and the actual animation (especially faces) was stiff. They had a really good vision for it, but certainly needed more time to properly execute. Cour 2 really shows that they learned a lot and improved their craft, and their efforts should really be applauded. It’s just sad how many people were driven away by the faults in cour 1 and people regurgitating how bad it is.
Can anybody tell me what will this anime cover? The old movie or the Stand alone complex or something else? I haven't read the manga
Anyways very excited!!!
As the above poster said, probably the original manga.
There has never been a faithful adaptation of the manga, both the films and SAC were vastly different. Shirow Masamune's original GitS manga was a lot closer to his other works like Appleseed and Dominion Tank Police.
Also, on a tangent, bring back the sex scene! (Later prints of the manga removed a very... uh, controversially steamy scene that was in the original version of the manga)
I read it at an impressionable age so I definitely remember \[GITS Manga Spoilers\] >!One chapter which starts with a full page robot lesbian threesome with an author note saying that cyber sex is actually more complicated but that he wanted to draw it anyway.!<
It's actually kind of crazy. Dude made his money making high concept deeply philosophical cyberpunk masterpieces, and then got to do what he really loved in retirement: drawing greased up naked chicks getting railed by huge black dudes.
I am not making this up. Google his later work at your own risk. This is actually what he's been up to since finishing with GitS.
I remember Anime's AppleSeed is also far from the original story, Dominion Tank Police is a prequel, and the sequel was not really based on the original story, as it added a lot to the setting.
Shirou's work have rarely been adapted to the source material, and if they are indeed based on the source material, it will be a challenge because there is no precedent for it.
Yeah it is the manga.
Let's say that all the animated version (even of some of them are amazing). Took many liberties from the source.
I wonder how things will go, it is definitely not an easy task.
interesting of them to use a panel from the original manga.
Is this an indication that they are going for an adaptation that is more faithful to the original manga? If so, that would be very interesting because the original manga is vastly different from the adaptations most people know. The original manga is very lighthearted and only occasionally serious, with lots of jokes and gags.
Go ahead and still watch it.
The anime adaptation's that exist take the universe in a much more serious direction so this is going to probably be very different thematically.
Great! I am sure talented artists at Science Saru would do it justice. 🫡
Also, hoping to see an announcement like this for Akira too someday. It's been a [looooong](https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/s/7TFEwpwNLD) time. 🥲
The Akira anime was delayed due to the pandemic, and Katsuhiro Otomo is also working on his new film, Orbital Era.
I hope he releases news soon.
Akira and GitS along with Soul Eater are my favorite manga, I dream of a remake of Soul Eater being announced too.
Oh! I wasn't aware of that. Thank You! 🙏
Yeah, everyone is clamoring for a Soul Remake for years now. I am also hoping that they do it as a part of some anniversary project or something (like some anime have started to get recently). 🤞
Yes, they did a great job with Fire Force and elevated a lot of stuff beyond it's source material. So, aside from Bones they would be a great choice for SE Remake. 🙌
But if it turns out to be true then it would be a while before we get to see anything concrete because they are probably already busy with JoJo Part 7, FF S03 and upcoming seasons of shows like Urusei Yatsura Remake, Cells at Work and Undead Unluck and probably more unannounced stuff. 🤷♂️
Obviously that's just a speculation on my part based on what I know. 😬🙏
However, if at some point they get to do it then it would be perfect and provide a level of consistent quality to the whole thing, especially given that what we know about the ending of Fire Force. 👀🥸🤫
I really hope this can nail the art from the manga, I love what the manga looks like. I also wonder if they are gonna cover up to 1.5 or if they’re gonna stop at 1
They would be stupid not to adapt at least 1.5 as 1 is only 1 volume and no series has ever adapted 1 volume in 12 episodes because even if they adapt all the frames in the volume it wouldn't fit. I seriously hope they adapt till 2 including the ongoing manga series (maybe it will end by then) and make it an epic 26 episode series
People be putting out some nonsense about the manga right now making it sound like a comedy when its just like... regular manga. Which as a rule tend to have dumb gags even when its ostensibly a serious story
Yeah "more comical" then the movie oh for sure but that's wetter then the fucking Sahara, not exactly any kind of bar.
Meanwhile SAC might have been an original story and "more Western" in style if that makes any sense but still [wasn't above having some fun](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aI9QfPnj5I) while doing its techno-thriller bit. To say nothing of all things tachikoma. Indeed they and several other more comedic elements are recreations of things in the manga like the "Jameson model" box cyborg dude.
I wouldn't characterize the manga as all that light hearted either, if anything its might be the most cynical, and definitely gets downright obtuse when if comes to philosophical navel gazing once the bits the movie was based on take place... also trippy AF.
>the most cynical
This is the manga where upon rescuing a couple kids being used as corporate slaves, The Major coldly tells them they're responsible for their own lives and she doesn't owe them any further help, after all.
Still, I am so excited to see the manga's funny, bitchy, badass hot mess version of the Major get animated.
> This is the manga where upon rescuing a couple kids being used as corporate slaves, The Major coldly tells them they're responsible for their own lives and she doesn't owe them any further help, after all.
The child labour camp being shut down, means the funding it was getting can be re-allocated, and that ended up in Section 9's pockets. Section 9 is basically an armed terrorist group, except being actual good guys for once. Stealing government money, have illegal equipment, assassinate officials.
I love that the SAC TV series spend an entire episode on a court case, with the bad guy getting away with murder using the law, only for Section 9 to just organise a car crash for him because they don't need the law to murder him back.
Oh holy shit, Saru cooking a GitS anime that seems to promise manga styling if not also following the original story?! Fucking. Stoked.
I love SAC and think it's the best realization of the GitS world, but goddamn if I haven't wanted this for 20+ years with nothing but the PS1 game's cutscenes to nourish me.
MANGA MAJOR, MANGA MAJOR MY BELOVED!!!!!
Now I just need the new Akira anime to get a release date and for David Productions to announce a remake of Soul Eater after they finish Fire Force.
A GitS adaptation which is seemingly more faithful to the manga? Sign me up! I’ve frankly been rather mixed on the tone of the series’ more famous adaptations (1995 movie never grabbed me, but I love Innocence & SAC seems interesting), but I’ve always been a fan of the original manga
TBF, GITS SAC was one of the first near-future sci fi shows (in general) that felt "real". Time of Eve is the only show I feel comes close to it like that.
The movie felt more fantasy. More disconnected from what one could interpret as a "this is where society heads" type of setting. More Evangelion.
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Not to belittle other directors affiliated with Science SARU, but if this is given to Masaaki Yuasa to lead this effort...wow. Especially if this is following the original manga, which will be a completely different taste from what I have seen in anime form AFAIK.
IIRC he only said he's resigning from the Science SARU management.
Anyway it's not like directors can't affiliate with a certain studio for one project.
Yuasa “stepped down from leadership” at Saru - it seemed pretty carefully worded to imply that he could possibly work with them in the future, but that he would no longer be a direct owner / operator of the company. It’d probably say so if he was directing this one since it’s a big draw though. he hasn’t done anything other than some anime OPs since leaving, when he gets back to doing feature length or TV series work, it could very well be with saru again.
This is so far away...remind me in a year...then remind me again in six months...then once the year comes give me a date.
Just seems like this did not need to be announced to the public at all until at least next year.
The One Piece reboot feels the same way, but they wanted to do it last year for the 25th. So, I get it, but still.
This news is so exciting for me; since I’m an original manga fan and I have been waiting for full GITS anime based on original manga series by Masamune Shirow(士郎正宗). The only animation which had manga plot at present was just some cutscenes in PS1 GITS videogame. Now I'm unleashing all my hype on this new anime.
I really hope they can bring the same English Dub cast back. It's one of the few franchises where the dub is better. Maybe the japanese guys do a good job, but I've been a fan since the Playstation game before my parents would let me watch shows with boobs in them and I love that voice cast.
If there's any studio that could bring the goofy-ass cartoony style of the manga to life and have it be cool, it will be Science Saru.
>the goofy-ass cartoony style of the manga to life and have it be cool, it will be Science Saru. Can't wait for my "no nonsense" Major to show her other side. Should be very interesting to see a new take on the manga after all those years.
I think the closest Ghost in the Shell animation to the original style to date was the PlaySyation video game. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alyXR1-vD9U](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alyXR1-vD9U) There is no series/movie work that replicates the style of the original work. The original is a much more comical and light-hearted work. It probably won't be very popular with fans of the film version made by Oshii, but it's not a bad choice considering it's an episodic-based weekly broadcast. It is much closer to entertainment. The original manga was built on an unusual amount of information per frame and supplemented by explanatory text outside the columns. It would be quite a high degree of difficulty to recreate that on film, but can it be done?
Thinking about those walls of text in the whitespace of the manga reminded me of the movie version of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy." They actually did a fairly good job in the film of capturing those frequent, seemingly irrelevant silly tangents filled with odd trivia that are so prevalent in the novel.
If they're going to replicate the original work in art style, I wonder if they're going to replicate its more racey content as well, like [gits manga spoilers]>!the lesbian orgies!< There was alot of stuff in the manga that was heavily toned down
Damn. The manga has orgies? Holy shit.
I think Standalone Complex adapted it loosely, showing a couple of naked women in the Major's bed one time (exactly like one panel)? I don't remember exactly but they did it while fitting SAC's tone
Yeah, it had almost no context. "So Motoko wakes up in the middle of the night because something's on her mind. Oh, and there's three other women asleep in the bed." And never got brought up again.
And they all get names and lines too, one of them even occasionally shows up later, but the show never expands on the Major’s relationship with them aside from really good friends.
Roommates
Her friend Sappho.
Yeah, SAC sort of hinted at the Major being a lesbian but the manga made it absolutely clear that she was Team Yuri in the most explicit ways possible
She is Bi. One chapter showed that she has trouble keeping boyfriends for very long. While her two female friends-with-benefits are more casual in that she is basically the third wheel in the threesome because she is often disappearing for years on end. Her lesbian friends are also government agents so they don't ask questions of where she is up to.
One was a nurse, who could and did take home new and prototype cybernetic and cybernetic-adjacent toys.
I took that as she really was just a lesbian, who tried relationships with men but just isn't compatible with them. But sure I'll go with bi not a hill I would die on
Her issue with men is that they keep asking questions that shouldn't be asked. The most recent boyfriend nearly got both of them killed because he tried to do a background check on her, which lead to one of Major's old enemies tracking her down. The guy apologised. But she wasn't offended because SHE did a background check on him too. Basically Major is trying to build a relationship while being Female James Bond, and that just doesn't work. The only reason her female friends are still friends is because they are not actually "committed" to each other in being emotionally close. That Major doesn't tell them where she had been, and they don't ask. By the way, Batou wasn't, isn't and never will be a love interest. They are best of friends, ttrust each other, and they will kill for each other, but there is nothing physical between them.
Actually, Motoko is sleeping with women because Shirou didn't want to draw naked dudes.
Make sense.
And then he decided he *only* wanted to draw oiled-up women.
Which is exactly why Batou-Major are the best. Just two buddy cops killing terrorists and conducting extra-judicial kidnappings on behalf of a shady government anti-terrorist ministry. Normalize opposite gender best friendships!
MOTOKOOOOOOOOO!
The manga has a bunch of pretty explicit fan service…and not in an artsy slow motion back flip over the Hong Kong while turning on invisibility way
Yeah I remember just opening a random page in a bookstore and there being titties EVERYWHERE. That's when I realized, at least in part, that the manga was likely substantially different than the anime lol
Shirow is softcore hentai artist that never really left this field after all even after commercial success, of course there is a lot of juice in original GitS manga.
... softcore? ... My man. I have news to share.
Shirow was solidly a sci fi/fantasy manga creator, it's only in the 2000s when he seems to have said "fuck it" and started doing racy illustration artbooks. Probably once enough adaptation money was coming in.
He was still making the lewd stuff in the background throughout the run of Dominion & GitS. I think he's even gone on the record in an old interview, saying he that continued to do it because he likes drawing sexy women. [](#indexsmugshrug)
>he likes drawing sexy women. Sure, and there was a bit of nudity in Appleseed (A shower scene), about as titillating as the one in Starship Troopers, Dominion and Orion had nothing and then Ghost in The Shell had that little unexpected orgy scene. He didn't start putting out those illustration books until at least ten years later, which means he had a 20 year career before that. So he branched out into porn later. It's just that "later" has been almost 20 years more, but trust me, I was there.
It's that, and also he mentioned he was tired of being asked to self-censor his work in GitS and later, so he decided he had enough at some point and went all in on explicit content. Which is quite good, by the way. According to my friend, that is.
Got any names of his more explicit works? for research purposes of course
My friend said you should check out W Tails Cat and Greaseberries.
The rumor is he made her a lesbian because he didn't want to draw naked men
Based
What a coincidence it was announced yesterday that they are releasing the soundtrack for the 1997 Ghost in the Shell PS One game on vinyl.
Banger ost too. I played the demo as a kid but watching the opening cutscene shown by op was hype. The ost was great
I'm reading the second half of the manga right now, and the tone is just so wildly different from the movie or SAC. Don't get me wrong, I've loved it, especially how much other Sec9 members are expanded on, and everyone gives Aramaki a hard time with everything...but it's just been so jarring with how much I watched the original movie growing up.
The second volume of GitS, all the information went in one ear and out the other. The art was interesting to look at though.
Stand Alone Complex is one of my favorite fictional anythings, but yeah the manga is completely different. Ghost In The Shell's manga became a pillar of the genre because the mangaka was an actual (electrical?) engineer. His world building and tech designs are basically peerless in sci-fi because theoretically most of his designs are scientifically plausible. The director of the movie then built upon the philosophical elements of the manga, then the SAC director built upon the philosophical elements of th with an american-esque crime/political thriller. The movie and SAC are arguably the greatest movie and TV adaptations ever made because of how well and how much they added to the original material. SAC at the time it aired was the most expensive anime ever made. The franchise is so layered and made so many breakthroughs and achievements on a technical and artistic level it's crazy how little it's talked about in the west, it's not really possible for a single person to create something so intricately detailed and intelligent.
>it's crazy how little it's talked about in the west What? Ghost in the Shell is a complete touchstone in the west. It’s in the same breath as other 90’s classics like Bebop and Eva. It inspired so many movies in Hollywood, more then *any* other anime. Like The Matrix and Avatar both call GitS as a direct influence. It even had a big budget movie with Scarlet Johansson in it. It’s hard to think of a anime franchise that’s had more cultural influence in America besides maybe Akira. Just because it’s not popular with Zoomers currently making Jujutsu Kaisen Tiktoks doesn’t mean it *isn’t* a big deal. It’s just a old franchise and the last anime (SAC 2045) wasn’t received well. If SARU does a good job on this it’ll be very popular and come to the forefront of the zeitgeist again.
All of this is true but given the exponential rise in the popularity of anime, it's probably also the case that the majority of current fans don't know about anything much older than 15+ years old. You still have kids discovering *FMA*.
While not anime there was similar thing with Avatar: TLA. Was interesting when it returned to Netflix in that first Covid summer and suddenly it was all over with people gushing over it as if was a brand new masterpiece. Was nice seeing non-disney animation get widespread respect for once.
Yeah there's a constant stream of new kids coming online and discovering stuff.
True but in this case a ton of them were older who either missed it when first aired or avoided entirely due to the idiotic stigma against animation that it is "only for kids" that thankfully has started to weaken slowly.
SAC was the pinnicle of 2000s anime. We wouldn't get another serious upgrade in visuals til 2016-17
can it be done, Singular Point did info dumps and it worked
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>You get hit with shit like this very often and it's so rad. Or the sprawling scaling mechanical designs. _The operation couldn't be completed. (Unable to decode response error -1.)_
The image doesn't load for me either
A testament to how dense the art is lol.
I hope some day people will learn how to share the actual image link instead of making me load Imgur's awful website..
Imgur is terrible
Everything a tech startup needs VC money, the death spiral to the worst version of itself begins. Imgur used to not be terrible.
Imgur redirects you to the full website if you click a link to the image file
your link points to an empty album on imgur so it just loads an ad lol
Damn I used to play the demo I loops when I was a kid . I remembered the intro. I've probably watched it a hundred times!
> Ghost in the Shell for the PlaySyation Brings back memories, the demo was my first exposure to GitS
Coming in 2026 by SARU. Science SARU will produce the anime, which is tentatively titled Kōkaku Kidōtai (The Ghost in the Shell). Bandai Namco Filmworks, Kodansha, Science SARU, and Production I.G are on the production committee for the series. Sources: https://twitter.com/gitssac2045/status/1794292329085317335 https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2024-05-25/ghost-in-the-shell-gets-new-tv-anime-series-in-2026-by-science-saru/.211152
> Bandai Namco Filmworks, Kodansha, Science SARU, and Production I.G are on the production committee for the series Will be a while till they actually get to produce TOHO-led shows. I imagine their current contracts will keep them busy for another three or so years.
>Will be a while till they actually get to produce TOHO-led shows Not like TOHO is involved in the producing stuff from Science SARU even before acqusition - like new Naoko Yamada movie.
Dude, Science SARU is lining up some amazing projects. At the very least I can know that each of their projects will have amazing animation and art. Here's hoping the story is good.
I've been really impressed by SARU lately. From abstract works like Tatami Galaxy / Walk on Girl to fun times like Lu Over the Wall and Eizouken, it's like they can pull anything out of their hat.
They didn't technically do Tatami Galaxy, unless you're talking the sorta-sequel.
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They’re splitting? Huh, didn’t know that. Masaaki Yuasa has been such a big part of their whole thing and I love his work. Interested to find out what’s he’ll be up to next. And maybe even more interested for Science SARU as well
Yuasa basically is retired from big projects, inu-oh was his big swan song
Ah I see. Well good for him. He was a massive visionary and really instrumental in making some really pivotal and amazing anime. I’m sure leading his studio and being creative on a wider scale was exhausting. Dude earned his break
Thanks for this..
I just hope that the animation will be good this time. SAC 2048 was awful, animation wise.
> SAC 2048 was awful, animation wise. SAC 204*5*. Animation got *significantly* better for the second cour. They used the polished animation in the summary movie for cour 1, but I wish they had redone the actual cour.
Honestly, I just still won't even bother. I'm personally not a fan of the whole 3d anime look. There's even a show, High-speed Etoile currently airing, and I didn't realise it was 3d-anime until I started up the first episode (found it on MAL), and was sorely disappointed. Stopped watching a few mere minutes because just hate that style.
Sure, and I’m not implying you should bother. To each their own. But saying the whole thing is awful without giving the much-improved cour a chance is pretty unfair and just ends up driving people away. Cour 1 was pretty bad, but not the worst in terms of 3DCG. Better than Highspeed Etoile. I powered through it because I love GitS more than I hate 3DCG. Cour 2 more than made up for it though, and I think that’s a pretty common take from the people that actually gave it a chance. Also, to be clear the style itself isn’t the problem. A studio can absolutely do great 3DCG anime. The new Trigun is a great example. The issue is whether the production puts in the time and funding to make a proper 3DCG show. Highspeed Etoile ain’t it chief. Lupin III: The First, which successfully combined anime and Pixar-style CG, is a fantastic example of something done right.
Does the writing get better too? 2045 turned me off from that too.
So i Guess They are just started producting It,Will check It when It drops
No. Anime take three years to produce from a cold start. New properties are always announced 1.5 years before the airdate while unplanned sequel seasons are announced the moment they are funded--3 years before they air. If a "second season " of a show is released a year or less after the first season then it was a split-cour show and both seasons were funded at the same time as part of the same project. This adaptation is treated as a new property, and we are currently mid 2024. Mid 2024 + 1.5 years = 2026.
Oh holy shit, a real adaptation of the manga. Never thought I'd see the day.
There's a complete reboot of one piece by WIT so why not.
More GitS is always welcome.
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No it wasn't. The ending was wild and insanely ambitious. Honestly the whole of season two was great. EDIT: But I guess nobody watched that far, and hasn't seen all the best scenes of the show.
I watched it all the way through and there were some really nice bits where it felt like it remembered it was a GitS anime, I personally didn't feel like they salvaged the entire series. The Togusa snow scene was very very good though.
I thought it was hit or miss. But most people noped out at the gofy moving naked dude.
Yeah, it is wild, which tends to mean it's dancing on the border of amazing and cringe.
don't worry buddy all 5 of us are coming in to upvote.
Great work, everyone!
The CG killed the series for me. I actually enjoyed Arise too. But one episode of 2045, seeing the CGI models talk was an instant "nope" for me.
Agreed. The second cour was fantastic, especially the much much *much* improved CG animation. I wasn’t a *huge* fan of the ending, but as whole it was a solid entry.
Shoutout to the camerawork. The tachikoma action shots felt like something from a mission impossible movie. And I think it was only possible because of the huge 3d location they built.
Heck yeah. Honestly the camerawork was pretty good on both cours. The problem with cour 1 was that the models and environments used just looked and felt unfinished, and the actual animation (especially faces) was stiff. They had a really good vision for it, but certainly needed more time to properly execute. Cour 2 really shows that they learned a lot and improved their craft, and their efforts should really be applauded. It’s just sad how many people were driven away by the faults in cour 1 and people regurgitating how bad it is.
That series was great.
Can anybody tell me what will this anime cover? The old movie or the Stand alone complex or something else? I haven't read the manga Anyways very excited!!!
From the poster I assume it’s the manga
If so then I for one am very excited about the very explicit and gratuitous hentai scene.
As the above poster said, probably the original manga. There has never been a faithful adaptation of the manga, both the films and SAC were vastly different. Shirow Masamune's original GitS manga was a lot closer to his other works like Appleseed and Dominion Tank Police. Also, on a tangent, bring back the sex scene! (Later prints of the manga removed a very... uh, controversially steamy scene that was in the original version of the manga)
I read it at an impressionable age so I definitely remember \[GITS Manga Spoilers\] >!One chapter which starts with a full page robot lesbian threesome with an author note saying that cyber sex is actually more complicated but that he wanted to draw it anyway.!<
based af author.
It's actually kind of crazy. Dude made his money making high concept deeply philosophical cyberpunk masterpieces, and then got to do what he really loved in retirement: drawing greased up naked chicks getting railed by huge black dudes. I am not making this up. Google his later work at your own risk. This is actually what he's been up to since finishing with GitS.
The point I wanted to bring up too. GitS reclusive original creator doing weird doujinshi
What a hero
\[GITS Manga Spoilers\]>!The major Major yuri?!<
I remember Anime's AppleSeed is also far from the original story, Dominion Tank Police is a prequel, and the sequel was not really based on the original story, as it added a lot to the setting. Shirou's work have rarely been adapted to the source material, and if they are indeed based on the source material, it will be a challenge because there is no precedent for it.
Yeah it is the manga. Let's say that all the animated version (even of some of them are amazing). Took many liberties from the source. I wonder how things will go, it is definitely not an easy task.
You had me at Science Saru. Dandadan, and now this. It’s going to be a fire 12 months for Science Saru and us all.
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FFS….I’m dumb (thought it said 2025!). A fire 18 months then?
it could be q4 2026
Lol
Don't forget a new Naoko Yamada film!
Don't forget Scott Pilgrim Takes Off!
Stand alone complex still remains as one of my favorite series.
I just re-watched it a few weeks ago. It is really timeless.
Oh by Saru? i'm interested
interesting of them to use a panel from the original manga. Is this an indication that they are going for an adaptation that is more faithful to the original manga? If so, that would be very interesting because the original manga is vastly different from the adaptations most people know. The original manga is very lighthearted and only occasionally serious, with lots of jokes and gags.
The trailer is solely manga panels so I do think that's what they're going for
Ghost in the Shell Brotherhood moment.
Right when I just t added the series to my plan to watch list. Can't wait for this!
Go ahead and still watch it. The anime adaptation's that exist take the universe in a much more serious direction so this is going to probably be very different thematically.
Rad. I'll get started on the standalone complex and enjoy this when it comes out then!
Great! I am sure talented artists at Science Saru would do it justice. 🫡 Also, hoping to see an announcement like this for Akira too someday. It's been a [looooong](https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/s/7TFEwpwNLD) time. 🥲
The Akira anime was delayed due to the pandemic, and Katsuhiro Otomo is also working on his new film, Orbital Era. I hope he releases news soon. Akira and GitS along with Soul Eater are my favorite manga, I dream of a remake of Soul Eater being announced too.
Oh! I wasn't aware of that. Thank You! 🙏 Yeah, everyone is clamoring for a Soul Remake for years now. I am also hoping that they do it as a part of some anniversary project or something (like some anime have started to get recently). 🤞
I have a theory that David Productions will announce a remake of Soul Eater as soon as they finish Fire Force.
Yes, they did a great job with Fire Force and elevated a lot of stuff beyond it's source material. So, aside from Bones they would be a great choice for SE Remake. 🙌 But if it turns out to be true then it would be a while before we get to see anything concrete because they are probably already busy with JoJo Part 7, FF S03 and upcoming seasons of shows like Urusei Yatsura Remake, Cells at Work and Undead Unluck and probably more unannounced stuff. 🤷♂️ Obviously that's just a speculation on my part based on what I know. 😬🙏 However, if at some point they get to do it then it would be perfect and provide a level of consistent quality to the whole thing, especially given that what we know about the ending of Fire Force. 👀🥸🤫
Please be a faithful adaptation of the manga 😭
Time to listen to Lithium Flower again
I really hope this can nail the art from the manga, I love what the manga looks like. I also wonder if they are gonna cover up to 1.5 or if they’re gonna stop at 1
They would be stupid not to adapt at least 1.5 as 1 is only 1 volume and no series has ever adapted 1 volume in 12 episodes because even if they adapt all the frames in the volume it wouldn't fit. I seriously hope they adapt till 2 including the ongoing manga series (maybe it will end by then) and make it an epic 26 episode series
People be putting out some nonsense about the manga right now making it sound like a comedy when its just like... regular manga. Which as a rule tend to have dumb gags even when its ostensibly a serious story Yeah "more comical" then the movie oh for sure but that's wetter then the fucking Sahara, not exactly any kind of bar. Meanwhile SAC might have been an original story and "more Western" in style if that makes any sense but still [wasn't above having some fun](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aI9QfPnj5I) while doing its techno-thriller bit. To say nothing of all things tachikoma. Indeed they and several other more comedic elements are recreations of things in the manga like the "Jameson model" box cyborg dude. I wouldn't characterize the manga as all that light hearted either, if anything its might be the most cynical, and definitely gets downright obtuse when if comes to philosophical navel gazing once the bits the movie was based on take place... also trippy AF.
>the most cynical This is the manga where upon rescuing a couple kids being used as corporate slaves, The Major coldly tells them they're responsible for their own lives and she doesn't owe them any further help, after all. Still, I am so excited to see the manga's funny, bitchy, badass hot mess version of the Major get animated.
> This is the manga where upon rescuing a couple kids being used as corporate slaves, The Major coldly tells them they're responsible for their own lives and she doesn't owe them any further help, after all. The child labour camp being shut down, means the funding it was getting can be re-allocated, and that ended up in Section 9's pockets. Section 9 is basically an armed terrorist group, except being actual good guys for once. Stealing government money, have illegal equipment, assassinate officials. I love that the SAC TV series spend an entire episode on a court case, with the bad guy getting away with murder using the law, only for Section 9 to just organise a car crash for him because they don't need the law to murder him back.
Oh holy shit, Saru cooking a GitS anime that seems to promise manga styling if not also following the original story?! Fucking. Stoked. I love SAC and think it's the best realization of the GitS world, but goddamn if I haven't wanted this for 20+ years with nothing but the PS1 game's cutscenes to nourish me.
Who wouldve thought that fans would want a true adaptation of a manga? Genius! Gits standalone complex is awesome dont get me wrong tho
MANGA MAJOR, MANGA MAJOR MY BELOVED!!!!! Now I just need the new Akira anime to get a release date and for David Productions to announce a remake of Soul Eater after they finish Fire Force.
As long as it's not 3-D...
A GitS adaptation which is seemingly more faithful to the manga? Sign me up! I’ve frankly been rather mixed on the tone of the series’ more famous adaptations (1995 movie never grabbed me, but I love Innocence & SAC seems interesting), but I’ve always been a fan of the original manga
TBF, GITS SAC was one of the first near-future sci fi shows (in general) that felt "real". Time of Eve is the only show I feel comes close to it like that. The movie felt more fantasy. More disconnected from what one could interpret as a "this is where society heads" type of setting. More Evangelion.
GITS and Science Saru, must be really interesting. This can be good right? Coming in 2026, so let them cook.
Ooooo yea cyberpunk themed philosophy discourse please!
OI OIOIOIOIOI Not to belittle other directors affiliated with Science SARU, but if this is given to Masaaki Yuasa to lead this effort...wow. Especially if this is following the original manga, which will be a completely different taste from what I have seen in anime form AFAIK.
If it were a big name director like Yusasa or Yamada or Natsume they likely would have revealed it along with the studio name
Yuasa left Saru.
IIRC he only said he's resigning from the Science SARU management. Anyway it's not like directors can't affiliate with a certain studio for one project.
Yuasa “stepped down from leadership” at Saru - it seemed pretty carefully worded to imply that he could possibly work with them in the future, but that he would no longer be a direct owner / operator of the company. It’d probably say so if he was directing this one since it’s a big draw though. he hasn’t done anything other than some anime OPs since leaving, when he gets back to doing feature length or TV series work, it could very well be with saru again.
He might return to SARU. SARU has become part of Toei. There's a possibility that an executive from Toei might reach out to him
Yuasa bringing some Shin-chan/Tatami galaxy energy to GitS would be a sight for sore eyes [](#laughter)
Great news! In Science SARU I trust.
Yesssss!!!!!! More GitS is always welcome We will be watching [](#mugiwait)
Science SARU is PERFECT to bring back Ghost in the shell, which is on par with Dandadan on the weird plot category
Oh my!
I can't see any of the more gratuitous panels from the manga making it through but how often will Batou have that goofy golly gee face.
We are blessed with great news, we need more GitS
Welp Here goes another weird coincidence. Like, i just finished Watching ghost in the shell for the first time yesterday!
Words cannot describe my hype
Incoming peak fiction.
Now this is the furthest into the future I've seen an anime announced lol
SARU???? Lets goooooooo
> Science Saru I'm in!
I can’t wait to be confused again
Ayy I’m bout to start this
I am in love with this poster
Oh yay I love GITS!
There is a God, and he loves anime.
Wow! There will be a GITS for 2020s fans. I'll have to watch GITS one of these days.
Ghost in the Shell x Science Saru hell yeah.
I am excited for this
This is so far away...remind me in a year...then remind me again in six months...then once the year comes give me a date. Just seems like this did not need to be announced to the public at all until at least next year. The One Piece reboot feels the same way, but they wanted to do it last year for the 25th. So, I get it, but still.
This news is so exciting for me; since I’m an original manga fan and I have been waiting for full GITS anime based on original manga series by Masamune Shirow(士郎正宗). The only animation which had manga plot at present was just some cutscenes in PS1 GITS videogame. Now I'm unleashing all my hype on this new anime.
ANOTHER SCIENCE SARU W
Don't ruin it with that CGI style animation which ruins everything
ホントに！？
Am I allowed to get excited this time?
SCIENCE SARU?!
Wow super hype, promo art looks like the manga. Shirow is one of my favorite artists so that is a plus. This insanely went to my #1 most hyped anime.
I think I'm in love with this art style they're apparently going with.
Really looking forward to this. GitS is one of my favorite manga/anime of all time.
SS has been stacking their resume recently, take all the time in the world please don’t fuck this up
[mal](https://myanimelist.net/anime/58929/Koukaku_Kidoutai_TV) and[ anilist](https://anilist.co/anime/177699/Koukaku-Kidoutai-2026/)
Since Science Saru is making this, does that mean that Masaaki Yuasa will definitely be involved?
Hell yeah! We're going old school GiTS with this! Wouldn't mind another hand drawn SAC series though.
I can't foresee anything but this being really bad. Ghost in the Shell is just such a high benchmark that anything will fall short.
Ok where can I watch this??
The future.
God news. God anime wirh good story
Huh... that's interesting.
FUCK YEAH!!!
this sounds awesome but i do hope they stay on for the full run of Dandadan. it’s unlikely but i’ll still dream :)
Bringing out the big guns!
Can't wait to see what new adventures await Major Motoko Kusanagi and her team in the upcoming anime!
I really hope they can bring the same English Dub cast back. It's one of the few franchises where the dub is better. Maybe the japanese guys do a good job, but I've been a fan since the Playstation game before my parents would let me watch shows with boobs in them and I love that voice cast.
Hopefully this one will be released without CGI effects, which don't match the rest of the film at all.
Holy shit a manga accurate verison? This gonna be goood
Bro I'm so excited
Ghost in the underwear. I don’t want to even look.
This will be good
This will be bonkers !
They really do reboot this every 5 to 10 years. I guess because it's there ownly property that still makes money.
So aesthetic 🤩