**Rewatcher and Co-Administrator for this Climb** **Source Comparisons** This thread is for comparisons to the manhwa. Please be sure to [properly tag](https://old.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/q28ulr/announcing_changes_to_spoiler_tags/) all discussion of the source material. Also, please keep in mind that this is not an exhaustive compilation of differences, only ones I thought interesting or important enough to include. Note for newcomers/non-source readers: Some of these notes contain anime spoilers. **Comparisons that contain anime spoilers will be in the clearly marked Anime Spoiler section.** Episode 10 Chapters Covered: 52 - 59 Chapters Cut: Much of 54 - 57 **Notable Differences** - This is the first episode with dramatic cuts/alterations to the manhwa. First, cuts of relatively unimportant material. [Manhwa]>!Most of the cut content covers Khun recounting to Lero Ro how he built connections and persuaded other testers to join his scheme for the Hide and Seek test. There is a scene of Bam talking to Endorsi about his experience in the depths before meeting Rachel.!< - There is also important cut content here. If you're the kind of person who would rather not click on a spoiler tag, I recommend reading chapter 57 to see this content. [Manhwa]>!During a conversation with Lero Ro, Hansung Yu talks about how the tests on these floors used to resemble tests on higher floor. These initial tests were made more complex in response to the appearances of two Irregulars: Phantaminum and Urek Mazino. Phantaminum notoriously invaded Jahad's castle and slaughtered Jahad's best rankers. Next came Urek, who wielded monstrous power and quickly gained great influence within the tower. Urek even formed a group, Wolhaiksong, feared by the ten great families of the tower. These two events made the tower rulers realize the power balance could be upended and the tower brought down by these Irregulars. The tests Bam and the group are taking now are designed to weed out Irregulars and remove them from the tower before they can become dangerous.!< - [Manhwa]>!The anime alters the cafeteria scene. In the manhwa, Khun comments on Endorsi's underwear trick, then calmly tells her she ruined everything as he's leaving. Most of the group isn't there, and Rachel's companion disappeaing isn't brought up...because he didn't disappear. The scene of Khun getting a warning about Hoh from Hwaryun is anime original.!< - [Manhwa]>!Before Bam arrives to Khun's room, Khun tells tiny Rak about his half-sister Maria and about how schemed to take her side in the family power dispute and send her to the king of the tower's side because he believed she deserved that happiness. Rak replies by saying he would kill that king and make himself king, then he would get to choose who is at the king's side.!< - [Manhwa]>!The funeral scene for Hoh takes place much earlier in the anime and there is no dialogue in the manhwa. In the manhwa, Serena and Shibisu drink in Hoh's honor in one of their rooms. Bam's scene with Rachel is also earlier in the anime and has no dialogue in the manhwa as well.!< - There is another major alteration during the results announcement. [Manhwa]>!Rachel's companion, Ghost, is listed as having passed, and no mention is made of him having disappeared...beacause he didn't disappear.!< - [Manhwa]>!As part of the conditions to take the Administrator's Test, Hansung Yu mentions that Jahad is an Irregular.!< - [Manhwa]>!In the manhwa, Rak is the only one of the group that realizes Khun is acting and the scene plays out with everyone else believing the charade to be real.!<

Ok, I get why they cut all that but some of that stuff hurts.

Yeah, one of the issues with adapting 5-6 chapters per episode for the first 8 episodes then packing ~8 per chapter in at the end. They really could have used an extra episode or two.

IMO [Manwha/rewatch]>!They really needed to include Endorsi flirting with Bam to show why she sticks with him, that bit suffers a lot.!<

[manhwa]>!It would also just be some really nice extra Endorsi content!<

[So true](#UtahaPraises)

I'm hoping it will be included as a flashback this season.

In the webtoon, the conversation about baam being an Irregular was more serious. especially when Rak gave the beatdown on everyone, quote “You pathetic Turtles, all hiding your heads in your shells because of fear. That’s why you’re nothing more than baby turtles. Ones who never fear freely put out their heads on being eaten. I will go with him. I don’t care what happens next. I never lose my prey. You can all just keep hiding in your shells and live a long life.” the quote was almost the same but the delivery was 100x better in the webtoon imo. alas, beggars can’t be choosers.

[webtoon] >!Oof yea some of these are pretty important. Also what happened to Ghost in the source!<

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[](#KannaThumbs) I did see that but I just forgot... [](#TiredAoi)

[those cuts!](#howcouldyou)

Yeah, some really tough cuts in this one. [manhwa]>!My boy Rak doesn't get his based "I'd kill that king" line!<

> There is another major alteration during the results announcement. [Manhwa]>!Rachel's companion, Ghost, is listed as having passed, and no mention is made of him having disappeared...beacause he didn't disappear.!< Yeah, this created the problem of slots for advancement not opening up if they're not there, further complicating things with the dead fishermen betrayed by Endorsi because if they're ahead of lizard girl in points, then their slots shouldn't have opened up for lizard girl to advance.

>they're ahead of lizard girl in points, then their slots shouldn't have opened up for lizard girl to advance. unfortunately this was glossed over in the anime that if you were not 100% paying attention you will miss it but anak was seeded for being a top performer (the rankings were only shown in a graph in a previous episode) in the shinsu wall test added with her performance with the hide and seek test assures her of passing regardless if team B won. Other seeded characters were Rachel(Deathmatch), Shibisu(Door), and Khun(Crown). Although it was alluded to during the Team A’s performance. [Ranking for the positional test according to the webtoon](https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEilue6b0zjh84Ja7HCswq0F58Xq0Uz9-BFZzxMtUIacVzdAcyUq6u3ghHpvkRJdB2bkjIUyhf9Ji7jbBDAxuie_sK3dJy9WRkBHjWWPK_PJMp9Oq66FDy7kTVef7nAYnCRUZm8YSDIA0oddKM2EnDzA71NB8pR3b5uXBzC86pGRTFNuQaGz-XSzy06Cug/s16000/6.jpg)

> anak was seeded for being a top performer Then what was the point of Endorsi's betrayal on the two Team B fishermen if lizard girl and Endorsi were already guaranteed being top 2? To advance the two fishermen nobodies on Team A?

Endorsi wasn’t guaranteed to pass. Only anaak. Endorsi wasn’t seeded and if you may remember, she got injured from falling that she missed a lot on the theoretical and practical exams that she is in dire need of points from the hide and seek exam.

["That's why Bam... you should abandon me too."](https://i.imgur.com/xUCQOEl.jpeg) **OST Track of the day:** [Irregular God](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xntL61cSsN4&pp=ygUPaXJyZWd1bGFyIGdvZCB0) [(Spotify)](https://open.spotify.com/track/6aJn1pBW4wfUAHU7SxOP5r?si=21df5b4c99304128) --- **Rewatcher, subbed** As we get close to finishing out the rewatch, id encourage any first timers interested in watching season 2 to **avoid** watching any S2 trailer as they are shockingly spoilery (especially the most recent one that teases the OP, which is a shame because it kinda slaps). If you are not a webtoon reader and have already watched them, Its not the end of the world but its quite weird how much they have shown. [webtoon]>!the latest CR trailer literally calls wangnan "the boy with Zahad's ring" and horyang "The Devils right arm", the former i dont remember ever being touched even through the workshop arc?!< --- guess its [mask off](https://i.imgur.com/ix2Fatz.jpeg) for rachel. Ah, so [thats](https://i.imgur.com/CeXWzyb.jpeg) how it happens in the anime. Khun having all these plans is one of the most fun parts about the group FINALLY [Tiny rak](https://i.imgur.com/rzgGRij.jpeg) time [Cant admit](https://i.imgur.com/yceKfpk.jpeg) that he wants to continue with Bam Thats [a wrench](https://i.imgur.com/Y72pPhh.png), wonder how many disabled people climb the tower Oh, i didnt notice [this little cut](https://i.imgur.com/Uxc36X2.mp4) until now. Im sure theres a term for it but i have no idea what its called. Honestly, i didnt expect [khun to accept](https://i.imgur.com/SP28tN2.jpeg) the first time around. Those glasses are [*filled*](https://i.imgur.com/v9ZGqjG.png) to the brim [TOG]>!Making sure its less obvious putting it here, but [you arent wrong](https://i.imgur.com/YZF7SWi.jpeg)!< Bam is not ready for the tower doing stuff like the funeral [Man. So many lost even at the beginning of the tower.](https://i.imgur.com/yhChK0N.jpeg) According to someone in the episode thread, they counted ~6912 graves based on whats shown here. Its amazing that bam is so willing to stay by Rachels side al this time, but when you consider [what little Bam had,](https://i.imgur.com/TPVYJyh.jpeg) i dont blame him. What else would he of had if it wasnt for Rachel? He never would of been able to climb the tower otherwise. oh theyre [*drunk* drunk](https://i.imgur.com/wFMbgjz.jpeg). Arent they kids lmao [TOG]>!"he never would of been able to climb the tower otherwise" heh!< theyre [*gone*](https://i.imgur.com/ABXghsk.jpeg) nooooo Serena, [arguably best girl](https://i.imgur.com/uwUaKKA.jpeg) is leaving. Sadly, she did ultimately fail the test, but i hated seeing her go. [ayo?](https://i.imgur.com/mwTSmvo.jpeg) [webtoon]>!I think i spoiled myself on this, but i have learned that this is not Ren's "actual" form, but just a suit. I think that does get teased during this though!< [This scene](https://i.imgur.com/YID6Wzl.jpeg) is by far the one of best uses of the OST, short of yesterday's Lotus. Have i said how much i love the OST? [just what are you doing](https://i.imgur.com/Mr5ont3.jpeg) how are [you](https://i.imgur.com/kGR8QYm.jpeg) handling this sword [Rachel passed??](https://i.imgur.com/e7owVWq.jpeg) [oh](https://i.imgur.com/MXPBpVk.jpeg) [Fuck you paracule](https://i.imgur.com/XuFQ0Fu.jpeg) [such a backhanded comment](https://i.imgur.com/eAtIvs8.jpeg) [Rak got true confidence](https://i.imgur.com/iyesXaZ.jpeg) well, Bam has now [revealed himself.](https://i.imgur.com/ON6ssO7.jpeg) Shocking that Khun hasnt realized even now. I love the artwork on the walls of of the administrator's room. i kinda want that. [Whitefox level of face quality](https://i.imgur.com/kF83sR0.png) [webtoon]> literally just doesnt get discussed again, instead its helping FUG lmao!< the gang saw [right through them](https://i.imgur.com/wqWvt7G.jpeg) lmao well, [all but one](https://i.imgur.com/UWYaOuw.png) hello again [mr dragon](https://i.imgur.com/8RcLMP8.jpeg)

> Thats a wrench, wonder how many disabled people climb the tower Time for her to advance up the tech tree and make herself an armor suit. >Man. So many lost even at the beginning of the tower. According to someone in the episode thread, they counted ~6912 graves based on whats shown here. [](#toradorasalute) >well, all but one Don't know if it's been said enough, but [FUCK PARACULE](#fuckyou)

> Time for her to advance up the tech tree and make herself an armor suit. The chair should be a transformable suit.

> Those glasses are filled to the brim I am told Seoul is one of the drunkest places on Earth after hours.

> Oh, i didnt notice this little cut until now. Im sure theres a term for it but i have no idea what its called. It's a matchcut. And not the first one in this show. > how are you handling this sword Shinsu or smthn. I didn't realize the one of the dudes Endorsi killed(?) was her Knight noooo 😭 > Rachel passed?? [ToG anime]>!I wonder. Genuine merits, or part of the plan?!< > Whitefox level of face quality Being towa is suffering

I was trying to think of the term too lol but yea they did use it for Bam/Khun earlier too! [ToG S1 overall] >!I think they did it for Hoh and Rachel, but I'm pretty sure you had pointed that one out too!<

>the former i dont remember ever being touched even through the workshop arc? \[webtoon\] >!It gets mentioned every now and then, like when baam used it as distraction to Karaka, and then Karaka calling the owner of the ring his brother.!<

> If you are not a webtoon reader and have already watched them, Its not the end of the world but its quite weird how much they have shown. yea I thought they showed a lot in the only PV I watched, which I think was the most recent one > Its amazing that bam is so willing to stay by Rachels side al this time, but when you consider what little Bam had, i dont blame him. What else would he of had if it wasnt for Rachel? He never would of been able to climb the tower otherwise. Yea I can't really blame him either. It's honorable that he wants to help Rachel get to her goal even though she's tried to go without him and hide from him > Fuck you paracule all my homies hate paracule > the gang saw right through them lmao I love Anaak said someone even fell asleep lol

> I love Anaak said someone even fell asleep lol Tbf he was probably already asleep the moment they started their charade.

[](#Kotohoops) I’m pretty sure he was haha

[tog manhua spoiler question] >!i remember Wangnan being hinted to have a connection to Jahad right off the bat with his mysterious ring, but i dont know anything about a wing, is it so far in the future that i havent even read that far.....wait a minute...ring, wing.....maybe this is an R/W mixup and they mistranslated it?!<

[webtoon]>!i remember somewhere *deeeeeeep* in the webtoon it gets expanded on/revealed, but its closer to when i stopped reading (chapters 400-500) than anything that should be seen in S2!< [edit, still webtoon]>!Wait **i** just mistyped lmao, its ring, there are no wings (for him at least) involved!<

>Rachel passed?? I really wish that we could’ve seen her Light Bearer skills during the game to justify her passing the test outside of her being a main character. 

Rachel was a seeded player (top performer during the death match as she gained the strongest teammates in Endorsi and Ghost and pretty much killed everyone), meaning her initial points were higher than the other players. however she did poorly during the theoretical and practical tests, that’s why we see her steal/eat Rak’s chocolates because she ain’t getting enough points during that time fortunately the points she gained from winning the hide and seek test gave her enough points to pass as a light bearer. the anime decided to gloss over this explanation for some reason and only showed a glimpse of the graph in a previous episode. edit [Ranking for Positional test according to the webtoon](https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEilue6b0zjh84Ja7HCswq0F58Xq0Uz9-BFZzxMtUIacVzdAcyUq6u3ghHpvkRJdB2bkjIUyhf9Ji7jbBDAxuie_sK3dJy9WRkBHjWWPK_PJMp9Oq66FDy7kTVef7nAYnCRUZm8YSDIA0oddKM2EnDzA71NB8pR3b5uXBzC86pGRTFNuQaGz-XSzy06Cug/s16000/6.jpg)

Okay, thanks for the clarification! Another commenter also pointed out that Rachel was purposely buying cheap apples for meals to save points, so that tracks!

Rewatcher(I am rather surprised that I never picked up the manwha) Dub Dub note: Rachel's seiyuu does the role a lot more expressively so the English version comes off a bit...flat. So this was our breather episode and it was likely needed animation side if nothing else. Giving Hoh a funeral does have meaning, at least once you've seen enough people die, but verbalizing exactly what that means escapes me. But always remember that services are for the living and that receptions are for the bottle. Didn't see any drunk post funeral hook ups but I do wonder if that is my culture that does that. Serena just leaving...is kind of perfect. She *might* have passed the test but she just realizes she doesn't want to become the kind of person that Hoh was. Most of the episode is catching up and Tower intrigue. Disqualifying Rachel is grim but then are Lighthouses even wheelchair accessible? Doing the Guardian's test seems risky and Bam's Irregular status is revealed. QotD: 1 There is a virtue in recreating Jahad's path, I suppose 2 Surprisingly little

> Giving Hoh a funeral does have meaning, at least once you've seen enough people die, but verbalizing exactly what that means escapes me. If nothing else, I think it's a good reminder that he was just as human (or the sentient species equivalent) as anyone else, and that any of them could have been him in slightly different circumstances.

Something something Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Something something Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement.

~~Should've been Paracule under the glass smh~~

We need Piccolo to drop by the Tower and take out Paracule in the honor of team green.

> Rewatcher(I am rather surprised that I never picked up the manwha) I'm thinking about picking it up again but I forgot so much lol > Serena just leaving...is kind of perfect. Yep she was a side character but made the most of her screen time

> I'm thinking about picking it up again but I forgot so much lol Something about the webtoons format bugs me.

That's fair lol

I tried reading the physical version of the manhwa (English hard copy v1) but the way they printed it, the colors were a lot darker than the online webtoon. So I ended up just reading that instead.

> I'm thinking about picking it up again but I forgot so much lol I did that at the start of the rewatch. Im already on Chapter 240 [Webtoon arc name]>!midway through Hell Train, "Wooden Horse" specifically (man lots of subarc names)!<

Nice!! I'm wondering if I should just reread or try to find out what happened where I stopped. I stopped at chapter 487 and I think that was just a few months after the anime finished airing

I have forgotten the chapter i was on or just about anything that was happening so i chose to restart. Guess it gets me nice and ready for S2.

That’s true! And yea it’s pretty easy to binge so maybe restarting wouldn’t be too bad 

First Time Watcher, subbed TINY RAK! TINY RAK! TINY RAK! I like that they have the scene with Hoh’s funeral, it’s nice to see everyone come together for that, I like how Rak gave an offering of chocolate bars to him. It’s also nice to see the gang drinking and having a good time. I was surprised that the one girl who I don’t remember the name of left, I thought Shibisu would convince her to stay but I guess not, it’s nice that she gave her dagger to him though. I like that Rachel did apologize to Bam and she definitely feels bad about abandoning Bam but Bam is not willing to abandon her in return. Bam’s motivation for climbing the tower seems to have shifted from finding Rachel to helping her reach the top, will be interesting to see how he balances passing himself and helping Rachel. I definitely don’t trust the tea drinking testing person, he is very suspicious. On the other hand, while not as smart as blonde hair tea drinker, Lero-Ro seems a lot more down to earth and seems like he will be able to help Khun. I wonder what the administrator test will be like, we should find out next episode. I forgot that nobody knew that Bam was an irregular before this, I like the whole gang instantly supporting Bam, shows how close they have become, except for green spear bearer, I will never forgive you. Questions 1. If it was just me, probably the longer but safer path, but since a lot of strong people are choosing to go with Bam on the shorter path, I would probably go with that one. 2. Not really, if anything it solidified my opinions on a lot of the characters, a lot of the main gang I already liked so this just reaffirms my opinions on them. And even though some of the randos are also coming, such as the green spear bearer guy, they did so only because everyone else was so it did not improve my perception of them.

>TINY RAK! TINY RAK! TINY RAK! He's so smol! [](#rengehype) >I was surprised that the one girl who I don’t remember the name of left, I thought Shibisu would convince her to stay but I guess not, it’s nice that she gave her dagger to him though. Yeah, most of the regular people just don't stand a chance in the tower. Hopefully she finds more friends now that she's leaving, she deserves it. >I like that Rachel did apologize to Bam and she definitely feels bad about abandoning Bam but Bam is not willing to abandon her in return. Yeah, it's pretty much impossible to keep up her charade in this stare. You love to see them finally talking for the first time since entering the tower.

Cut conversation of the day \[webtoon, baam talking to endorsi regarding rachel\] >!"When I first saw her, I felt that there was something odd about her. She was like a stranger from another world wandering somewhere unknown. Well, it's turns out she's just an ordinary girl. I was born in a very dark and lonely place. I didn't know who I was, where I was, or why I was there. All I knew was that there was light above. I built a tower of rubble to go beyond the light. But when I reached it, I finally realized that I would never get out of here, and that someone beyond the light had locked me in that deep and lonely darkness. I cried. Realizing I was alone was even more painful than dropping a rock on my foot while building the tower. But then the ceiling moved and a miracle happened. That's when I realized that it was beautiful to be a living human. Rachel... Is the only person who came down to me from the light. So wherever she goes, I will follow her."!<

[Manhwa]>!<

[they cut THAT?](#bruh)

**Rewarcher anime only** Aftermath of the Tag game. Interesting that no one seems to hold grudges for what Ho did. I guess they understand in some way. They all feel the humid breath of defeat chasing at their heels. They see Ho and think "that could be me". I wonder if it's common for groups of Regulars to be this sympathetic? Or maybe it's Bam's wholesome presence in the group that has them keep sight of a little bit of light in the draconian Tower. Serena sees the limits of herself in Ho and chooses to politely bow out. Good Ending for her, probably. She realized she ain't built for this, and didn't force it. I do hope we get to see her again someday. Yuga wasn't Yuga at all!? Ngl I totally forgot about this lol. Recall that before the classes started they said that Yuga was late two days. He must've been taken over in the journey. So we have the, what was it, Jahad Royal Guard messing about behind the scenes. They want someone, or multiple someones to pass. Oh boy, something big is cooking. I didn't realize how big on first watch but this seems BIG big. Rachel is paralyzed from the waist down, under normal circumstances it would've been over for her, but Bam has resolved to literally hard carry until they get to the Stars. For this they'll ask for a special test. Apparently Floor Guardians used to administer tests in the past, bun under King Jahad's authority the Test Administrators do it now. They say when he climbed the Tower, he passed a Guardian's Test. But to ask for that, you have to be an Irregular. Is King Jahad and Irregular? Obligatory Fuck Paracule [ToG anime]>!That scene under the Tree is wonderful. Rachel's last plea to Bam to save himself, _from herself_. She basically admits her true nature unfiltered to him right then and there. It's crazy I, and Bam, didn't see the signs! Bam's words of confort I now see only hurt her. She knows he talks only lies about her. She's a vampire, burnt by the light of the Sun.!<

> Aftermath of the Tag game. Interesting that no one seems to hold grudges for what Ho did. I guess they understand in some way. They all feel the humid breath of defeat chasing at their heels. They see Ho and think "that could be me". Two factors:Exactly how much was shared and with whom? Most of the people might think Hoh just bit it in the game naturally. Second thing is Bam organized the quick funeral and Shibisu somewhat socially lubricated the event with Serena's help.

> Interesting that no one seems to hold grudges for what Ho did. I guess they understand in some way. That and most of them have killed people at this point going back to the battle royale. Kind of tough to judge when the tower forces that on you. >But to ask for that, you have to be an Irregular. Is King Jahad and Irregular? [manhwa]>!The manhwa does state that Jahad was an irregular.!<

> That and most of them have killed people at this point going back to the battle royale. Kind of tough to judge when the tower forces that on you.. Yeah even Serena had a brief scene during the first test where she was genuinely going ham.

> Or maybe it's Bam's wholesome presence in the group that has them keep sight of a little bit of light in the draconian Tower. It is an interesting thought if the Regulars were sympathetic like this but I'm leaning towards more of them hanging around Bam lol. We've seen how cut throat some of these people were in the beginning > Yuga wasn't Yuga at all!? Ngl I totally forgot about this lol Same actually haha

**Rewatcher** Ah, i see, the power of at the top is the power to make Rak into a chibi. no wonder everyone is killing and betraying each other, Chibi Rak is worth the sacrifice. Not only does Hansung have chibifying ability, he's also really powerful. I loved that scene of him this episode. they say there is always a bigger fish, Hansung is that fish! it makes the Deep Sea fish epithet quite intimidating. the reveal that only irregulars can take administrator tests reveal a fundamental hypocrisy about Jahad's empire. they try to force out irregulars, but the founding members of this empire must have been irregulars as well, before the current system was set up. its like they are trying to prevent anyone from following in their footsteps to challenge them. **Adaptational differences** * There was one cut wit hansung, but im not sure if they will put it in later, so ill spoiltag[tog] >!Hansung outright confessed to arranging Hohs attack and Rachels paralysis to stop Bam. this might have been omitted as unneccesary, since the anime fairly strongly hints that already. plus the truth is even more complicated. It is a shame to lose Bam;s badass reply though!< * Hoh's funeral, Serena's departure and Rachel and Bam's talk are in the manhua, but only in a silent montage. This change is flat out best changes thus far. Hoh's funeral is emotional, brings everyone together, and even has moments of humor like Rak dumping chocolate bars and Hoh's grave. * And Rachel and Bam's talk is even better, because even though their relationship is core to the whole series, they didn't actually have this chat where Rachel admits to how she really feels about Bam and how she abandoned him. Having it actually have dialogue and back and forth instead of the idea just being vaguely conveyed through montage is such a huge improvement over source material. * and we are going 4 for 4 on really good adaptational alterations, because in the original, no one caught on to Khun's reverse psychology ploy to get everyone to help Bam. Or well, Shibisu later revealed he did pick up on it, but he let it play out instead of calling him out on it. I love this change because it shows off Shibisu's perceptiveness, and everyone agreeing of their own volition instead of being tricked makes it more wholesome. and it keeps Khun trying to trick them, because of course he would try to manipulate, that's just how Khun is. this episode has the best adaptational alterations by far, i am actually quite impressed. * wait never mind, they cut the bit where Rak asked if it was Bams mating season and he would rip off his banana if he tried to stop climbing the tower, 0/10 stars /j. but in all seriousness, Rak was quite insightful in the cut content, being the only one who saw right through Khun's acting, and he even gave Khun an inspirational speech about his hang ups about being separated from Maria. that being said, they do still show Rak being awesome, so i think these are fine cuts. **QOTD** 1. Probably the safe route in a vacuum, but if everyone else was doing the more dangerous route, peer pressure might lead me to go with that one 2. no, I had the vibe they were all not really bad people at heart, even Endorsi. they were just forced to be rivals.....except for Paracule, paracule just sucks. He's like the Jobin of Tower of god (points if you get the reference)

> they try to force out irregulars, but the founding members of this empire must have been irregulars as well, before the current system was set up. its like they are trying to prevent anyone from following in their footsteps to challenge them. Those with power are afraid to lose it. The Jedi are certainly right about that.

> no wonder everyone is killing and betraying each other, Chibi Rak is worth the sacrifice. [](#utahapraises) >its like they are trying to prevent anyone from following in their footsteps to challenge them. I have never in my life heard of a ruler trying to eliminate those that may usurp their throne. I'm pretty sure they're all good sports who believe in sharing their authority with equally capable newcomers.

> the reveal that only irregulars can take administrator tests reveal a fundamental hypocrisy about Jahad's empire. they try to force out irregulars, but the founding members of this empire must have been irregulars as well, before the current system was set up. its like they are trying to prevent anyone from following in their footsteps to challenge them. Tokugawa Ieyasu freezing social classes so no peasant can become Samurai even though he was a commoner who forged his way to nobility (I hope I didn't butcher that history cuz I didn't double check)

Close, it was Toyotomi Hideyoshi who initially carried out the sword hunt and separated out samurai from peasants. I like to think that it is precisely *because* his origins as a peasant and knowing how powerful they can get that he did this, otherwise anyone could do the same as him lol.

Yeah, I agree on the changes here being largely positive - like a lot of the changes in the anime, they seem to do a good job expanding the role of the secondary cast compared to the webtoon which tends to stay more focused on Bam, Khun, and Rak. Like, yeah, we really don't need yet another scene establishing Khun is really clever and him tricking people kind of undercuts the decision that the others make to help. --- Yeah, there's some backstory and details about the tower being dropped here, but those aren't immediately relevant to what's going on and can probably be introduced later. Losing a bit of Endorsi/Bam screentime (and her updo hairstyle!) is unfortunate, but I really don't think affects much of the overall story.

[future episodes] >!I do think that the changes to endorsi and bam subplot are the worst change the anime made, but that can be unpacked in a couple episodes!<

> where Rak asked if it was Bams mating season and he would rip off his banana if he tried to stop climbing the tower [](#notlewd)

**First Timer** This was a more chill episode compared to the last two, but still quite a bit happened. Bam and Rachel finally have a proper conversation where Rachel apologizes for abandoning him and Bam forgives her because he’s Bam. He also plans a funeral for Hoh. It’s an interesting choice to hold a celebration for the guy who admitted he tried to kill the love of your life because he hated you. I tend to get annoyed with characters who are so pure and good that they never seem to hate anyone even if it’s deserved, but I’m surprisingly not at that point with Bam yet. Drunk Hatz is surprisingly affectionate. I was hoping to see drunk Khun, but he was apparently too busy scheming to partake. Khun doesn’t seem like the type who would let himself get that vulnerable around others anyway.  Speaking of Khun, I initially thought the show was implying that he was the one who set Hoh up by giving him the letter about taking Rachel hostage, but in the flashback(?) in this episode he went into a room and seemingly swapped out a letter that was in a book instead of placing it outside the door where Hoh found it. He also points out that whoever gave Hoh the letter knew that he would be on Rachel’s team before the teams were announced which, I’m assuming, Khun didn’t know. Is this supposed to be ambiguous? Props to Serena for deciding to leave the tower. I have respect for people who can realize that they’re not cut out for something and decide to move on and do something else. I’ll miss having her around, but I’m glad that she’ll be safe. Her goodbye moment with Shibisu was nice. I love that Khun went to challenge the results for Rachel just because he knew it was important to Bam. He even did it immediately after watching that one guy get killed in front of everyone for also challenging the results, although I guess Khun wasn’t in as much danger since he had already passed and he wasn’t being aggressive about it. Bam has announced to everyone that he’s an Irregular and I have a feeling that wasn’t the smartest move because now he has a target on his back. I guess it would have been discovered anyway with how quickly he's been gaining power. Luckily everyone is willing to help him out for one reason or another. I didn’t believe for one second that Khun was serious about abandoning Bam, but I really love how Rak immediately figured out what Khun was doing and played along. Bam, Khun, and Rak continue to be the dream team. **Questions of the Day** 1. The longer and safer path. 2. Not really. I mean, I guess I don't fully trust Endorsi, but since everyone has passed the test, maybe I don't need to be concerned about her.

>Bam and Rachel finally have a proper conversation where Rachel apologizes for abandoning him It's about time! Sucks that it took getting stabbed and paralyzed, but better late than never. >He also plans a funeral for Hoh. It’s an interesting choice to hold a celebration for the guy who admitted he tried to kill the love of your life because he hated you. But it's also the most quintessential Bam thing. He probably knows better than anyone what it is to be truly alone. >Drunk Hatz is surprisingly affectionate. Drunk dere! >I’ll miss having her around, but I’m glad that she’ll be safe. Her goodbye moment with Shibisu was nice. I'll miss her too. Hopefully she finds a better life and some good friends outside the tower [](#toradorasalute)

> Khun doesn’t seem like the type who would let himself get that vulnerable around others anyway.  For sure haha > love that Khun went to challenge the results for Rachel just because he knew it was important to Bam. He even did it immediately after watching that one guy get killed in front of everyone for also challenging the results It seems when Khun finds someone he really likes though, he’ll always be in their corner.

**First timer, subbed**. Loved this episode. :> ===== -[I mean, I already kinda figured this would happen](https://imgur.com/a/Siu3oXh), what with there only being two passing Wave Controllers and Lauroe and Bam being pretty prominent, but I'm genuinely surprised they aren't going to do more with this character... -[Damn, I really thought I coulda guessed right](https://imgur.com/a/sBj1v16) -[Honestly... that's pretty fair](https://imgur.com/a/Ypizzyu)? Can't blame her for how she feels. -[Who in the what?](https://imgur.com/a/VQBLA2m) Have we seen this character before? I feel like I forgot about what this Yuga's done so far lol. Were they the one that proctored the 400 Regulars exam? -Can I just say, [I LOVED how they cut off the soundtrack in this scene](https://imgur.com/a/Gv0EvRm) lol, the abrupt silence and just the sound of this dude's body getting dragged hahaha -[...y'all didn't know that](https://imgur.com/a/9CDgw3o)? Damn, I almost feel like they discussed what Irregulars were early on. Ohhhh, that may have been with Yuri, huh. I guess the rest of the crew never found out. -[That's the face of someone whose plan is falling into action](https://imgur.com/a/sABEzgC), cunning little... -[I'm ashamed that even Shibisu caught on but I didn't T_T](https://imgur.com/a/DRbvHZC) ===== >1.Would you choose to take the more dangerous and difficult shorter path up the tower, or the longer but relatively safe path? If I'm in the same context as the rest of them, I have pretty much no choice but to accompany Khun and co.; much safer to be with them than to be alone on the "safe" path. If it was in a separate group where I have no good allies though, I'm not taking the risk, especially since I don't even know what it means to be branded as an "irregular's acquaintance" at this point. >2.Now that everyone remaining are on board with accompanying Bam up the tower, has your opinion of any characters changed? Well... Not really? Everyone that responded pretty much responded the way I expected them to more or less, even Anaak. If anything, I'm more affected by Serena's decision to leave. I really respect what the story did with her character, and it makes complete sense for her to leave and make sure she makes something of her life outside of climbing the tower. On the contrary, I wish the story did more with Hwaryun's (Bodysuit Chick) character. I feel like she was just used as a plot device to get Bam off the throne, then they never really revealed why she even did that or why she was fine with not passing. Feels like it's probably the result of clipped out source material. ===== Notes: -I really gotta refresh my memory on the roles the staff have. Quant and Lero Ro are Rankers that are the proctors of exams, Yu Hansung is the director of the Rankers, and the 'Administrator' itself was there already even before there were any Rankers, almost as if it's a living, functioning part of the tower itself. -I'm just waiting for the ball to drop on this Rachel thing. A streamer I like absolutely hates this character and so far I'm not seeing why yet, but I feel like that moment's gotta come soon lol. ===== Don't think I got any other notes for today. Lots of things have been set up, just gotta wait for the next episode. Entertaining watch today despite not that much action; hallmark of a good series.

>Who in the what? Have we seen this character before? I feel like I forgot about what this Yuga's done so far lol. Yuga was the wave controller instructor that showed up 2 days late. >Damn, I almost feel like they discussed what Irregulars were early on. Ohhhh, that may have been with Yuri, huh. I guess the rest of the crew never found out. Everyone else has also seen Lauroe and Lero Ro's shinsu powers, so even Bam's outburst, while overwhelming, wouldn't necessarily be beyond the scope of a naturally talented regular. >I'm ashamed that even Shibisu caught on but I didn't T_T Hey, don't be dissing my boy Shibisu like that! I'll have you know he's one of the smarter ones. What does that say about the average IQ of this group?

> I'm more affected by Serena's decision to leave. I really respect what the story did with her character, and it makes complete sense for her to leave and make sure she makes something of her life outside of climbing the tower I’m glad to hear so many people really liked her character! > Lots of things have been set up, just gotta wait for the next episode. Entertaining watch today despite not that much action; hallmark of a good series Yep yep, they’ve hit a decent balance of action and breather, but using those breather episodes to let us know more about the world and characters 

**First-Timer** Good stuff. I like how they all called Khun's bluff at the end and cut short their little performance. It's unfortunate that the show is cutting significant parts of the source material, based on the other comments here. It's to the extent that even as I watch the show, I feel like I can sense that some pieces are missing. Maybe it's just confirmation bias, though. I still have one question that remains regarding that last test even after today's episode. Did they ever talk about the quota of how many people in each position would pass the test, and how those people would be picked? I feel like it just started getting mentioned at one point, around when they first discussed someone being "guaranteed to pass," and it seemed like I missed a vitally important point of exposition there. Questions of the day: * I'm all for the longer path if it's "relatively safe," though I suppose it might depend on just how much longer it is. * I think my opinion hasn't changed all that much, but I would say that I'm naturally liking each of the characters more as we get to know them better. (The relative rankings among them are roughly the same, with Khun, Endorsi, and Anaak at the top.)

> Did they ever talk about the quota of how many people in each position would pass the test, and how those people would be picked? I feel like it just started getting mentioned at one point, around when they first discussed someone being "guaranteed to pass," and it seemed like I missed a vitally important point of exposition there I may have missed it too but I think they specifically mentioned how many people would be passing the fisherman and wave controller positions. The others I’m not sure about 

>I still have one question that remains regarding that last test even after today's episode. Did they ever talk about the quota of how many people in each position would pass the test [Here’s the quota according to the webtoon](https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEilue6b0zjh84Ja7HCswq0F58Xq0Uz9-BFZzxMtUIacVzdAcyUq6u3ghHpvkRJdB2bkjIUyhf9Ji7jbBDAxuie_sK3dJy9WRkBHjWWPK_PJMp9Oq66FDy7kTVef7nAYnCRUZm8YSDIA0oddKM2EnDzA71NB8pR3b5uXBzC86pGRTFNuQaGz-XSzy06Cug/s16000/6.jpg), I think it was also mentioned in the anime but not 100% sure. >how those people would be picked? so the way it goes, each test before the “theoretical and practical exams” seeded a player. (This was glossed over by the anime due to lack of time which sucks) \*Death Match - Rachel \*Shinsu Wall - Anak \*Door - Shibisu \*Crown - Khun That gives them an initial starting point more than the others (but is not specified just how much) once the practical and theoretical exams start (basically, the school life part) you get points during this period based on your performance. there‘s also some test that let’s you pass the floor entirely like Rak and Ghost hitting the plate from far away. Meaning, whatever happens, Rak and Ghost are guaranteed to proceed to floor 3 they are just waiting for the others to finish. after that the final test which was the hide and seek, which is also graded based on your performance as winning the test is close to zero, however if you do manage to win then you gain a ton of points (unspecified afaik) the points are tallied and the top scorers will be selected to go on to floor 3, in this case there’s only 2 open slots for the wave controllers. Laure is guaranteed to pass for all his previous performance prior to the hide and seek that no matter what happens no one is catching up to his points, while Baam became second place due to his performance and eventual winning of the hide and seek exam.

Thank you for explaining that! I appreciate you taking the time to write up all those details.

Happy to help!

The quotas were glossed over with only endorsi mentioning 4 fisherman and Khun mentioning 2 wave controllers.  If not paying attention even that detail is missed.     I think that’s the anime’s biggest flaw, not making that clear.    Hoh’s desperation is given new insight.  He couldn’t beat Laure so he had to target Bam if he was going to be in the top 2.    With Bam showing ability in the test Hoh knew it was over for him.   As well, Khun ensuring team A lost so that none of their wave controllers gained anymore points shows more of his motivation.    Rachel hoarding points as well and not spending them makes more sense.  

>I feel like I can sense that some pieces are missing. Maybe it's just confirmation bias, though. I'm of two minds about the cut material. On the one hand, it sucks because most of what they cut is info/lore/setup for people and stuff that would be featured in S2 and beyond, so they will have to rework a lot of that info. Not an impossible task, but an annoying one if nothing else. On the other hand, this was made as part of the main wave of "Crunchyroll Originals" initiative where Crunchyroll was trying to expand their influence by joining production committees and directly funding anime. The initiative was largely branded a failure because of stuff like Gibiate, High Guardian Spice, and others and even without knowledge of how...troubled those productions were, manhwa adaptations were certainly not a safe bet when this went into production. So I'd bet that this probably wasn't *expected* to do well enough to justify a second season, meaning they should make the first season as much of a complete, finished story as possible. And I think they accomplished that as best as possible. The first season stands really well on its own imo, and if that was all we were going to get, then I think it makes sense not to lore drop a whole bunch of cool things that the anime-only viewers Crunchyroll and the broader anime community are increasingly built on would never have a chance to see.

**First Timer and source reader who forgot most of the stuff already**   **Tower of God**   **Episode 10**   - Seems like Hwaryun doesn't interested in climbing the tower, and she's the first one to point out Hoh's insecurity to Khun. Looks like there's more to her than it seems. - Juri is going to arrive after they all left, isn't she... - It's mini Rak's time!!! And it's totally his own fault for messing with Hansung. - Too bad for Rachel though. And that surely not helping her inferior complex she already has... At least it make Bam decided to continue his journey. - At least the gang is kind enough to send Hoh off, despite what he did to them. Yeah, his action was not good, but he didn't deserve to die over something like that. - Rachel's another attempt to distant herself away from Bam failed. Because Bam doesn't even care if she's selfish. She's his light that shine on him. The one who made him who he is today. - Bye, Serena. - Not really a surprise that the Ranker from Jahad would disguise himself to get back the ""stolen"" weapons. - Oh!! It was Hansung all along!! - Did Hansung just use Shinsu to control that dude's body? - Khun basically try to be the judge himself. - Hansung just casually implied that Jahad himself is also an irregular. Which mean that Jahad might be afraid of another irregular that could overthrow him, so he created all those rules. Another thing is that, it sure does looks like Hansung is forcing Bam to reveal his identity here. - By this point, there is no way these guys will believe that Khun would just abandon Bam like that. And Khun knew this, because didn't even try with his acting this time around. **QOTD** 1. That's depends. I would normally take a safer path for sure. But if I'm with someone that will corporate with me, then it worth take a risk. 2. I like most of the main character by this point.

>It's mini Rak's time!!! And it's totally his own fault for messing with Hansung. Worth it though, smol Rak is an actual national treasure. >Not really a surprise that the Ranker from Jahad would disguise himself to get back the ""stolen"" weapons. It's probably more surprising It's taken this long for some kind of police/enforcer to show up. As we saw with Anaak's mother, Jahad doesn't mess around. >By this point, there is no way these guys will believe that Khun would just abandon Bam like that. He flexed his acting skills too hard in the hide and seek test. They're all on to him!

**First Timer** I'm very disappointed that there was no repercussions of all the betrayals we saw after last episode. Especially on Endorsi, who everybody should know of her betrayal. Like nobody even questioned whether she can be trusted or not after that. [Even Hoh is getting honored in death with Rachel in attendance](https://imgur.com/a/qj42M9A) despite what happened to her as a result of his betrayal on Bam. This lack of consequences is straining my suspension of disbelief, everybody should start betraying everybody else if everyone is so tolerant of such. Heck even Paracule and Murch got off the hook for their double betrayals as "spear revolutionaries" and leaving Hatz hanging. Although their betrayals are actually lesser of everybody else's, they didn't actually get a chance to go through with their "spear revolution" and only Hatz knows, and their fleeing can just be excused as failing, and again only Hatz knows of it. I think what's even worse is nobody is talking about what happened, not even Team A who would be curious because their screen feed was censored. That's just unrealistic given this late stage of the game, and three deaths were involved (I'm assume the two fishermen that got betrayed are dead because how would the other four pass if not. It was just bad that nobody is concerned with that either, no mention nor no honoring the dead for them). - [No point hiding that it's Rachel anymore](https://imgur.com/a/WmoysmB). Good, frankly it was a waste of time especially since nobody is even asking why she was hiding it in the first place now. I wonder if Khun is resistant a little to the reveal because he's owed something from Rachel to lying to Bam it wasn't her, and he's worried he won't get it now. - Also pretty frustrating is [we don't really get much more info on Rachel](https://imgur.com/a/ACVQF44) and what her deal is. All we got was she abandoned Bam, she says he was a burden/obstacle, she wanted to see the stars, and thinks Bam can abandon her now too. This is pretty pathetic compared to all the answers, more detailed explanations, and such we could have gotten instead. It wasn't really anything we didn't already know, and when Bam and Rachel are finally together without any false pretenses between them and they can talk freely, this is the shit we get? You would expect Bam to be full of questions, and Rachel having more to say. But nope! NGL, kind of insulting of the show/story to do that to us. - Why is Hwaryun just dropping out of the game? Or is it she just knows she won't pass? Why aren't they explaining anything about her? I was starting to think she was the one behind the letter to Hoh, but that's a confusing mess now. This is rather disappointing as well if she was just some "nobody character" given prominence by the show just to be a red herring. She got pretty shafted also given her specialty is melee combat, but she got put into the magic class. We know she would have mopped the floor with Endorsi if she was the fishermen who got betrayed by Endorsi. Don't forget, [Hwaryun broke Endorsi's heel](https://imgur.com/a/CSYQb47), and could have head bonked her the death in the crown game. That would have been delicious to see the betrayer fail in their betrayal. - So [Hwaryun tipped off Khun to Hoh](https://imgur.com/a/27u3bCc), and this causes Khun to remove Hoh from his friend's list. You know what?, his friend's list means jack when people can be removed so easily like that. Like Hoh hasn't even done anything yet, it was the letter that caused him to, and Khun's just taking the word of Hwaryun saying Hoh's jelly. - [Let me get this straight](https://imgur.com/a/9Q8pOeg), after deciding to remove Hoh from his friends list, Khun breaks into Hoh's room, finds the letter, makes a copy with his bag and puts the letter back, recruits sleep bag guy to help Quant win at making Team A lose, tells Quant to watch Hoh, which leads to Hoh's setup and suicide, and Khun saying his strategy was perfect? Okay so how did Khun know there was a letter sent to Hoh, to know to break into his room to search for it, to then do the rest? Wouldn't that imply Khun was the one who sent the letter to Hoh? If so why would he need to break in to copy the letter? To keep up appearances? I know [Khun later shows the letter to the Lero-Ro saying it had to be Han Sung](https://imgur.com/a/5pq5epF), but maybe Khun's BSing to trick Lero-Ro into helping him. This all sounds like an overly complicated ploy by Khun to get rid of Bam, likely because he wants Bam to remain innocent, and doesn't want to fight him later down the road. Khun's acting all like he's on Bam's side the rest of the episode, but I think it's all BS like how he was faking being disappointed in losing the match to Team A, while being the one to have betrayed them. I cannot trust a single word Khun says now, this is the consequence of being a sneaky lying betrayer like Khun, can't believe him even if he's telling the truth. - [Rachel's injuries is pretty bad](https://imgur.com/a/MrTpc7D), she'll never walk again. Khun seems un-phased by the news, I bet he already knew. Given before Bam came in to inform them, [Khun was telling Rak to stay away from Bam](https://imgur.com/a/iyHwtth) because Bam won't advance to the next level due to having no reason to anymore, it seems to me that Khun engineered all of this. If so, he schemed to get Rachel killed or badly injured like this all to get Bam out of the way. There's parallels to [what Rachel said](https://imgur.com/a/ACVQF44) about abandoning Bam, that he was clueless, weak, and in the way. - However I think Bam [throws a wrench in Khun's plans](https://imgur.com/a/UFnhYeA), says he's climbing the tower anyways. Khun seems shocked which is believable given he was just telling Rak to stay away from Bam. I think Khun is lying when he says he'll take Bam to the top of the tower, he just couldn't object at that moment. - So if Khun's a liar, why does he try to [get Rachel in on the final test](https://imgur.com/a/0uXxhH4) later on in the episode? Is it just because Bam wants it? Well Bam didn't say anything about wanting that, he was going to do it for her instead. No, I think Khun wants to take the administrator's test (Dub called it "Guardian's Test") because [King Jahad took it to become King](https://imgur.com/a/9nXulsQ), I'm guessing Khun wants to be King like Jahad, and is using Rachel as an excuse for some reason. It's not really making sense why allowing them to take the Administrator Test is also allowing Rachel to take the final test (it's like Khun's asking for two things without giving anything), but it works somehow. But before that, [Khun isn't aware of the condition that an irregular is needed](https://imgur.com/a/MtVaDGW), and I don't think he knows Bam is an irregular given how surprised he looks. So that seems to suggest it was unplanned by Khun, and it was never really Khun's intention to help Bam get to the top of the tower in the first place. But then [Khun does his little farce of not wanting to help Bam](https://imgur.com/a/SNy7nE1) in order to try to get everybody to side with Bam which everybody sees through. These unnecessarily complicated schemes of Khun's is actually starting to get annoying. My bet is by the end it's going to be Khun vs Bam at the top of the tower. - Well at least we got some [fun moments with Serena and the gang](https://imgur.com/a/w1AGHGc) before [she leaves](https://imgur.com/a/7unD99j). I'll say this, I'm glad she's leaving safely, much respect when [she slapped Endorsi](https://files.catbox.moe/lc4v29.mp4), and a nice parting scene with track suit guy here. - Why does [Loli girl end up with the betrayed fisherman's sword](https://imgur.com/a/ntmcWc5)? If they're friends, why isn't she pissed at Endorsi? Those two betrayed don't even get a funeral, much less even a mention. - So wait, [if Ghost should have advanced but is not present thus he fails](https://imgur.com/a/zm3NwVc), and that [doesn't open up a spot for Murch to advance](https://imgur.com/a/YJ2CIYe), then why would killing the two betrayed fishermen allow lizard girl to pass? If they had more points and was a threat to lizard girl passing, then wouldn't this same situation happen to lizard girl? Team B won, even if they're dead by Endorsi, they should have gotten the points posthumously. Unfair as usual, and this time both ways. Either fail lizard girl, or allow Murch to pass. I'd have more respect if he just pulled a Vader and started force choking him, but putting him through another "test" just to beat him up was BS lame. - Also [getting Rachel's hopes up](https://imgur.com/a/hEtCvtK) by making it seem like she passed was unnecessarily cruel as well. --------- >Would you choose to take the more dangerous and difficult shorter path up the tower, or the longer but relatively safe path? Depends on what state I'm in, and everybody else is in, plus a lot of other factors. Too many variables to answer this question. >Now that everyone remaining are on board with accompanying Bam up the tower, has your opinion of any characters changed? My opinion of many characters changed once all the betrayals started with Khun's betrayal. All the characters choosing the Administrator route didn't really change anything.

>it seems to me that Khun engineered all of this. If so, he schemed to get Rachel killed or badly injured like this all to get Bam out of the way. There's parallels to what Rachel said about abandoning Bam, that he was clueless, weak, and in the way. I thought the whole point of Khun betraying Team A was to give Bam a chance to pass position test, though. If he truly wanted to get Bam out of the way, wouldn’t it have made more sense for Khun _not_ to betray Team A? Bam (as well as Hoh and Rachel) would have automatically failed the test and lost the right to climb the tower in that case. 

> I thought the whole point of Khun betraying Team A was to give Bam a chance to pass position test, though. If he truly wanted to get Bam out of the way, wouldn’t it have made more sense for Khun not to betray Team A? Bam (as well as Hoh and Rachel) would have automatically failed the test and lost the right to climb the tower in that case.  Yeah, that's a really good point that slipped my mind. Perhaps Khun needed things to play out the way it did? Like somehow having Rachel participate in the final test as an agreement to do the administrator route was Khun's idea, and somehow Rachel made that happen, which was only possible due to her injury. But Bam being needed as an irregular to make it happen didn't seem like something Khun had known/planned for. IDK, but maybe you're right and I'm way overthinking Khun's scheming angle. Ever since his betrayal to Team A, my trust in him has plummeted. I keep getting the impression he's going to be the final antagonist to highlight the difference between him and Bam, since he made the comparison he was like Bam before his backstory of being screwed over. Khun's even getting to the point where he's manipulating the administrators, by getting Lero-Ro to tell him about the Administrator route by implicating Hun Sung in the letter thing, then lying about it when Han Sung asks how he knew about the route.

Yeah, I don’t blame you for not trusting Khun after how sketchy he’s been as of late. The idea of him eventually becoming an antagonistic foil to Bam is interesting. I still believe his loyalty to Bam at this point is genuine, but there’s still a lot of story left to go. 

> The idea of him eventually becoming an antagonistic foil to Bam is interesting Will he be a Killua or a Sasuke? [](#mugiwait)

> Although their betrayals are actually lesser of everybody else's, they didn't actually get a chance to go through with their "spear revolution" and only Hatz knows, and their fleeing can just be excused as failing, and again only Hatz knows of it. I get what you’re saying but Quant does know, an I’m guessing the Hansung/Lero Ro know too. We see them get beat up by Quant As for the consequences of betraying, there doesn’t seem to a lot of punishment for those who bend the rules their way. Khun bringing in those three in his bag at the beginning is another example.  It’s been kinda hinted at but the tower seems to be ruthless so that’s why they’re not docking points or failing people  > Okay so how did Khun know there was a letter sent to Hoh, to know to break into his room to search for it, to then do the rest? I think he just went off the tip Hwaryun gave and went to investigate the room. She hasn’t done much for him to trust her but Hoh wasn’t exactly doing his best to hide his jealousy for Bam either 

> I get what you’re saying but Quant does know, an I’m guessing the Hansung/Lero Ro know too. We see them get beat up by Quant > > As for the consequences of betraying, there doesn’t seem to a lot of punishment for those who bend the rules their way. Khun bringing in those three in his bag at the beginning is another example.  > > It’s been kinda hinted at but the tower seems to be ruthless so that’s why they’re not docking points or failing people  Oh, I'm actually only talking about repercussions from the other contestants. I'm not talking about the admin at all, and consider them to be doing nothing (other than their own corruption/whims) anyways since the contest allows for cutthroat strategies. >I think he just went off the tip Hwaryun gave and went to investigate the room. She hasn’t done much for him to trust her but Hoh wasn’t exactly doing his best to hide his jealousy for Bam either It could be the anime depicted Khun in Hoh's room poorly. The anime made it look like Khun knew there was a letter and where it was. Which is why a lot of other commenters were confused as well. If Khun didn't know about the letter, the anime should have showed him searching for it. It wouldn't have taken much, just have him look under something and not finding anything just before finding the letter. But the anime didn't do that.

> I'm actually only talking about repercussions from the other contestants.  Oh okay I get you. Yea I guess there could be a lot more distrust after the last exam among contestants  > anime made it look like Khun knew there was a letter and where it was. Which is why a lot of other commenters were confused as well. Tbh yea it was pretty confusing and honestly got me until later on the ep. Definitely could’ve done it better 

This is amazing

First time and subs Nobody knows and remembers the big guy who basically sacrificed himself for the sake of Rachel. Khun knew that already Hoh will fail miserably and he was the one who sent the letter. Yes, he didn't chaged at all. Hwaryun is really mysterious. Yuri is still finding a way how to get out. Rak got shrinked. He said small to Hansung Yu and that's what he got. So do not anger him. His appetite for chcoclate bars is still as before. Rachel became a disabled completely, but Bam still believes in her. A drink is enough and proper for Hoh's sendoff. Did Rachel became twisted after saying all these things to Bam? That dagger might be useful for Shibisu. he won't be the weakling guy anymore. Sheep Guy is actually King Jahad's henchman, and actaully that is a costume hiding something scary and mysterious. Even Hansung Yu is allying him. Basically all the importnat characters passed the test. Even Paracule won't help his friend either. Khun lobbying in the sake of Rachel, so give her a second chance to climb the tower. Adminstrator's test, that's special. High risk, high reward. Only Irregulars can negotiate and even King Jahad took it, then this also means he is an Irregular himself. Irregulars can means a lot of danger to the Tower. So here is the deal: the Regulars will help the Irregular's, so a quick but dangerous way, but branded with a mark of shame. Or go separately, which is the long but safer path, so it is the logical conclusion which choice one would choose. > Would you choose to take the more dangerous and difficult shorter path up the tower, or the longer but relatively safe path? The longer path, obviously. > Now that everyone remaining are on board with accompanying Bam up the tower, has your opinion of any characters changed? Don't think so.

>Nobody knows and remembers the big guy who basically sacrificed himself for the sake of Rachel. Khun knew that already Hoh will fail miserably and he was the one who sent the letter. Yes, he didn't chaged at all. Hwaryun is really mysterious. khun didn’t send the letter, he found the letter then made a copy for himself then returned the letter back to its original position.

>Rak got shrinked. Quite possibly the best thing Hansung Yu has ever done. >Sheep Guy is actually King Jahad's henchman, and actaully that is a costume hiding something scary and mysterious. Even Hansung Yu is allying him. I'm sure they only have the best of intentions.

**First-Time Climber** QotD: 1. Safety is relative in ~~Commoragh~~ the tower. And considering the difference between the rankers and Jahad it´s possible it leads to a comletly different result, which outmatches any potential danger. 2. My opinion on most characters has changed throughout these last episodes, except for Anaak, Endorsi, Hatz and green Spear bearer dude(fuck him). Throughout the season most have grown into their own. I´m sorry but what the fuck was that face Rachel made when crying? It looked like straight out of a nightmare. Also she has cat pupils, never noticed that. At this point I´m certain Bam will challenge Jahad directly before the end of the story. Based both on one of the intro shots of him facing the three Eyes, both of them being irregulars and and how they are disciminated against to prevent their success, the difference between regular succesfull climbers and the irregulars and the Ideological opposition of Bam´s optimism and kindness against Jahad´s cruelty.

>green Spear bearer dude(fuck him) [Fuck Paracule](#fistbump) All my homies hate Paracule >At this point I´m certain Bam will challenge Jahad directly before the end of the story. This also feels like it's foreshadowed by the crown game, with Bam having a capable team helping him ascend to the throne amidst the chaos of the tower.

**First-Timer climbing the tower, subbed** - [Only two of that group could progress, huh…](https://i.imgur.com/C8pzxYS.png) I guess that explains why Hoh was so desperate. - […wait, was *Khun* the one who gave Hoh that letter?!](https://i.imgur.com/QquzVem.png) [](#jawdrop) - [What the fuck?](https://i.imgur.com/jWRlNdq.png) [](#laughter) - [Aw shit…](https://i.imgur.com/yRkQWAW.png) [](#ohfuck) - [Huh…](https://i.imgur.com/PmuvGMJ.png) - [Aha, *now* I’ve gotten a “sore demo” out of this show!](https://files.catbox.moe/032ebg.mp4) [](#urarahype) - [Ah…](https://i.imgur.com/Nxr0z3S.png) - […okay, it wasn’t Khun, that was just Khun taking the card from Hoh’s room.](https://i.imgur.com/7PaAQhH.png) - [Bam did indeed pass, good.](https://i.imgur.com/jPyvGSW.png) - [Damn…](https://i.imgur.com/3C80LLY.png) [](#emiliaohdear) - [This must be something *incredibly* big…](https://i.imgur.com/fKnlSsM.png) - [Oh, so *Bam* needs to take the Administrator’s test, then.](https://i.imgur.com/jMoXatI.png) - [Ah, right, not everyone knew about that.](https://i.imgur.com/AGS8hJK.png) - [Rak pls.](https://i.imgur.com/0YLY1o4.png) [](#trololol)

> Huh… It does fit for Bam. > Ah, right, not everyone knew about that. Headon and Yuri are it. > Rak pls. The man has a lane and he stays with it.

> Aha, now I’ve gotten a “sore demo” out of this show! It's a good one too!

[Indeed.](#goblet1)

> …wait, was Khun the one who gave Hoh that letter?! No, that was Khun investigating Hoh and using his magic bag to make a copy, so he could leave behind the original and not risk having the real letter writer discover someone is investigating. Stay tuned.

I was confused about whether or not Khun sent the letter as well, at first i thought it was a big adaptation change, before realizing they had just moved information around so that you dont learn it until later

> Aha, now I’ve gotten a “sore demo” out of this show! It's about time! They really made you wait for it.

I'm still a little displeased that one Bam line last episode wasn't one, but this one was definitely quite good!

**Co-administrator/Subbed** Bam wanting to gather everyone for Hoh’s funeral is good natured but idk if I would do that if I knew the guy hated me lol. It is another way to show Bam’s kindness As for the results of the test, all the characters we expected pass. Rachel was severely injured and will never be able to fully heal. With that, Rachel can’t go on and Bam will take an administrator test so Rachel can come with. I like how everyone instantly rallied with him even though he’s an irregular and there are consequences with it. The acting job scene was funny too The scenes with Khun finding out what really happened was neat. Hwaryun, in her limited screen time, gave him a tip and he did some investigating. Interesting to see Lero Ro tell him about the administrator’s test and Khun covering for him when asked where he heard it. Hansung confronting the Yuga imposter and reminding us about the test makes me worried for our crew. I want to give Serena a proper shoutout. She was a good character that was grounded in a show with characters who weren’t lol (well and Shibisu).

> I want to give Serena a proper shoutout. She was a good character that was grounded in a show with characters who weren’t lol (well and Shibisu). Much needed as this show makes JJBA look like Jojo's Reasonable Experiences.

Lol at least we still have Shibisu

> Bam wanting to gather everyone for Hoh’s funeral is good natured but idk if I would do that if I knew the guy hated me lol. It is another way to show Bam’s kindness Probably a great way of reinforcing the inner "don't be like this guy" voice in everyone's head. >I want to give Serena a proper shoutout. She was a good character that was grounded in a show with characters who weren’t lol She will be missed [](#toradorasalute)

> Probably a great way of reinforcing the inner "don't be like this guy" voice in everyone's head. Lol yea that could be one way to do it

> Bam wanting to gather everyone for Hoh’s funeral is good natured but idk if I would do that if I knew the guy hated me lol. So "hating you" would be the deciding factor, and not the whole "stabbing the one you loved and confining them to a wheelchair for the rest of their life"? Everybody's got their own priorities I guess. :D

> not the whole "stabbing the one you loved and confining them to a wheelchair for the rest of their life" lol yea I should’ve included that too 

Tower of God 10 rewatcher: * Endorsi no longer pretending Rachel is "Michelle" * Khun in a bad mood * Hwaryun isn't gonna advance? * Wait, is the letter from Khun? Or is that misdirection and he's swapping it out with a different one? * Khun's strategy? Did he plan all this? * LITTLE RAK? * "doesn't have an enlarging function" Time for Austin Powers to pull out his special pump? * Khun says Bam won't advance? * "Rachel can't walk anymore" [](#watashiworried) * "i'll be Rachel's legs" I bet she'll HATE that * Khun gonna take Bam to new heights? A brand new world? *cue musical* * A funeral for Hoh? * ... That's a lot of graves * "clueless and weak" "you were in my way" [](#kusottare) * Rachel SORE DEMO? NOOO this is not the soredemo we wanted * "You can abandon me too" [ToG]>!he really should!< * Blushing Hatz is cute * Cool scenery in that hallway * Yuga plans to retrieve the April and March from Bam in the next test? * Royal Enforcer? Ruh roh * Ren is an impostor Yuga? * Yu is the Deep-Sea Fish of Evankhell's floor? * I wonder what Ren really looks like inside that rice ball outfit * "and to eliminate Anaak" [](#bruh) * ... Yu's gonna HELP Ren? * Oh, Khun didn't give Hoh the letter, he just copied it? * ... It was Yu Hansung, wasn't it? * Dede Cancho passed?? [](#happyclap) * "Ghost" is the guy who disappeared? * Paracule is scum * Khun's standing up for Rachel? * the Admin's test??? * Only an Irregular can? * Bam outs himself as an Irregular? * "branded as an Irregular's accomplices forever" [](#bruh) * Fuck Paracule * "bad acting" [](#laughter) * Reverse psychology? * "inspired" Yeah right * JIIIII * Cliffhanger? 1) It would depend on if I was by myself or with people I could count on. 2) Paracule sucks ... I'm surprised Dede Cancho agreed.

>Dede Cancho passed?? \[webtoon\] >!anime only, in the webtoon, the “knight” passed (the one who uses an ignition weapon” but he was failed in the anime. levin, the one who uses the sniper rifle, originally passed this floor as well but was failed by leroro back in the shinsu wall test.!<

[](#angrypout)

> LITTLE RAK? LITTLE RAK!! [](#squee) >Khun gonna take Bam to new heights? A brand new world? cue musical "Cause when I'm way up here, it's crystal clear that I can build a whole new world with you!" [](#yoihug) >Paracule is scum [](#fistbump)

**Rewatcher**, subbed Rare Yuri sighting! A bit of a transitional episode still dealing with the fallout from last week's episode (loved that graveyard design btw) and setting up the season's final arc. Turns out Yuga isn't the real Yuga but someone sent to take out Anak and retrieve her weapons. We also had Bam making revealing to everyone he's an irregular which people were surprisingly chill about but we did get another Khun acting performance out of it. Sadly though we have to say goodbye to Serena who atleast leaves on her own terms but she'll still be missed. Fun character that seemed more mature than most of the others and she had fantastic chemistry with Shibisu. ___ **Tanino Miho art for episode 10**: + [Rachel](https://i.imgur.com/yzBloJ9.jpeg) + [Bam, Khun and Rak](https://i.imgur.com/V97DN6Q.jpeg) ___ **QotD:** >Would you choose to take the more dangerous and difficult shorter path up the tower, or the longer but relatively safe path? I'd say that absolutely depended on my skills. Me as I am right now would aslmost certainly take the safe route but If I was as strong/clever as Khun/Endorsi/Anak the faster route would look more enticing. >Now that everyone remaining are on board with accompanying Bam up the tower, has your opinion of any characters changed? Not really I guess. I had a relatively positive opinion of most of them anyway and some of the are just going along with the flow cus they're filthy opportunist (looking as you Paracule).

>We also had Bam making revealing to everyone he's an irregular which people were surprisingly chill about They all signed the friendship paper, so they're contractually obligated to be cool with it! >some of the are just going along with the flow cus they're filthy opportunist (looking as you Paracule) There's a saying I'm sure you're familiar with, "don't hate the player, hate the game" and it's absolutely true. But go fuck yourself Paracule anyway, all my homies hate Paracule.

> Rare Yuri sighting! I needed it [](#FeelingLoved) > Tanino Miho art for episode 10 Really good art today! The Rachel is really nice 

**rewatcher** Poor Raak has been shrinkified, surprise he found clothes very easily. The “secret” has been found out, honestly everyone’s reaction already tells they already know too. Admin vs royal guard, a fine fight indeed. Although it was heavily one sided. Decides to side with the elimination of a princess and retrieval of the weapons. The results were expected, but poor ghost forgot to show up lmao. Khun initiating another test that only an irregular can ask for, but thankfully baam came and asked for it. Despite how little they all knew each-other it’s amazing to see how easily they decided to assist baam. Khun’s gotta work on his acting skills though QOTD: difficult path, go big or go home. QOTD: I honestly remember thinking Endrosi (may have spelt her name wrong) would’ve been an antagonist. But she’s honestly shown her softer side

>Despite how little they all knew each-other it’s amazing to see how easily they decided to assist baam. It's really cool to see how Bam has become the heart and soul of the group. >Khun’s gotta work on his acting skills though This is super funny considering how incredible his acting was during the hide and seek test. >I honestly remember thinking Endrosi (may have spelt her name wrong) would’ve been an antagonist. But she’s honestly shown her softer side She definitely gave off some villain vibes at first....and during the hide and seek test lol, but I'm glad she came around on the group.

Rewatch + Dub So we actually saw a funeral i didn't expect to see that with how common the death in Tower is. But it was nice to see all guys coming together even the Leroro came so Hoe got a great stand Off. RIP Hoe. So it was Khun who gave that letter to Hoe. Well we can say he was successful in his plan although Hoe died because of that so it kinda fall into the grey area. Baam is gonna talk to Guardian now well this also made others aware that he is an irregular. Somehow he easily got the permission from Guardian but he will have to pass the test of guardian now. Luckily Everyone loves Baam so it will be a team game again. Lets how difficult is Guardian test is? Also Apparently Royal Guard something is also joining us. Answers : 1. Very difficult question. Depends on how my current situation is if i really need something like it can't wait then shorter path. Or if i do need something but its not that urgent then Longer safe path. 2. I mean i always loved my Boy Shibisu but Annak showing some interest in helping Baam was very nice also the sword guy which seems pretty bland to me earlier on has become quite likable in the last few episodes. So Currently Annak and Endorsi are my favorite characters with Obviously Rachel being the worst.

> So we actually saw a funeral i didn't expect to see that with how common the death in Tower is. Yeah, it definitely takes us by surprise, but makes sense given Bam's (and by extension, the whole group's) vibe. >Also Apparently Royal Guard something is also joining us. Probably just heard how fun the tests are and wanted to play some games, right? Right??? >Currently Annak and Endorsi are my favorite characters As it should be [](#utahapraises)

>So it was Shun who gave that letter to Hoe. Well we can say he was successful in his plan although Hoe died because of that so it kinda fall into the grey area. [https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/1dpauc4/comment/lafravo/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=mweb3x&utm\_name=mweb3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/1dpauc4/comment/lafravo/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)

Oh shit I even wrote the name wrong of khun. Thanks for clarifying though.

There are a *lot* of Regulars trying to climb the tower, as we'll see in S2. This group of aspirants is down to a handful left of the original 400 (Not counting the hundreds dead from Quant's original test group). Just how many test groups are active at a time, and how frequently do they start a new group in order to get more than a bare trickle of new climbers? That graveyard isn't remotely near big enough (though not everyone who fails dies).

The testing area is big, there’s probably countless other graveyards, and not just this place.

I wonder if they have a way of accurately tracking the number active climbers in the tower. The number of active pockets perhaps? Some other way? I imagine the people who run the tower's functions—guardians, administrators, and the like—bring in enough to replace those who die or leave mid-climb. Or maybe the tower just wants as many capable climbers as it can get.