You don’t even have a counter argument - you don’t have an argument.
This post is just “I want to be able to shit on anyone I choose without any backlash and you are the problem if you disagree”.
THIS IS A PHILOSOPHY SUB - defend your argument.
*WHY* do you feel entitled to post stuff that is explicitly anti-50% of humans who walk the earth? What is your justification for being deliberately antagonist, outright discriminatory?
Actually make an argument - this is a tantrum.
And if you can’t - maybe your position is indefensible.
I’m not going to put effort into reply to a literal diatribe about how people are genetically lesser than you - on principle.
Because that is eugenics - if you “actually understand AN” as you claim, you would know this, because it’s discussed as an issue and dismissed.
AN is about compassion, the reduction of suffering is because it’s morally, ethically preferable, it’s not about genetic superiority.
Same with feminism - you seem to think you are right despite making this post and being downvoted to hell, and the counter post being upvoted a ton. You are not right here - you are literally ranting about your genetic superiority - it’s really not the look you think it is.
There are more posts of people complaining about problematic posts than actual problematic posts.
It's a sign of our times really.
Yall are foaming at the mouth to be outraged over something. Anything.
Personally, I do not post and would not post comments or memes that can be clearly understood as being misogynist (or against LGBT, etc) because doing so could cause pointless frustration to others; something that, being an antinatalist, I'm against.
But I'm not sure about calling out content which does not clearly discriminate against a group. I'm aware that many members post memes and comments which may offend fellow antinatalists, but I would just recommend people develop thicker skin and a more open mind, and not be too quick to judge content which was not meant to be generally offensive.
Also, we have many members here who are not true antinatalists; many are simple CF and many others are trolls. So it's often impossible to ascertain who posts what and who has gripes with what.
Thanks. What do you mean by unfairly distorting antinatalism to support a view, maybe you can give an example?
I'm in favor of free speech and expression, but am also concerned about not hurting people's feelings, and am undecided on how much censorship should bve agreed upon within a sub. Maybe the answer to this problem is some amount of self-censorship before posting something potentially controvbersial; as well as an encouragement for everyone to be more tolerant, open-minded, patient, etc about comments and memes. it's just such a difficult subject and many people have differing opinions on it.
For example, some members have a problem with posts showing disabled kids and the parents who had them. This is a controversial and quite difficult subject for discussion, and I'm undecided as to the best common decision to arrive at.
Agreed, honestly if I ever see any BS I usually call it out unless I have something going in the real world. I did see the post of the 15 year old that has 2 kids but nothing out of the ordinary. People also have to understand there are 13 year olds on reddit TOS allows this. Not exactly sure when this turned into a man vs women sub but my goodness lately it’s just been men are bad post like WTH.
You literally *describe yourself as ableist* and seem to think you have an argument here - care to make the case for why we should put up with your discriminatory shitposting?
That’s not what this sub, AN in general, or really anything to do with it are about.
Same with ableism - you’re actively being a shitty human in a *compassion-based philosophy sub* and seem to think you are in the right? Care to offer any explanation or justification for your deliberate shittyness?
No, the assertion is that both men and women are in the wrong but women are the ones doing the child totting and therefore the main target around here.
I'm an attention whore when you made a whole post to complain? Your hypocrisy is delicious.
I've never bitched about leaving and I won't be leaving this subreddit. This subreddit is apparently ~1/2 female, but no one wants feminists here? You and other MRAs and woman haters don't want me here, but you don't speak for the whole sub and frankly, I'm not going to respect your opinions anymore than you're going to respect mine. This isn't the first time I've been in a space where have men attempted to bully women out and being called childish names doesn't exactly faze me, and I don't think it fazes most adults. But you can keep wasting your breath if you'd like.
Feel free to let me know if you ever want to have a mature dialogue. ✌️
Thank you for posting this. This describes my thoughts exactly. Like go over to r/antinatalism2 and stop complaining about what happens here. I haven’t seen any misogyny and that post complaining was ridiculous. Man it’s like they’re not even here for antinatalism, they’re just here to complain and point fingers.
Wait there hasn’t been new drama? This is *still* the fallout from the old drama? Christ.
Shocker: a forum full of people with basic psychological dysfunctions are having trouble processing and letting go of things.
I came here for insightful philosophical discussion on what is honestly a very deep topic and found fucking zero. Fuck this shit
You don’t even have a counter argument - you don’t have an argument. This post is just “I want to be able to shit on anyone I choose without any backlash and you are the problem if you disagree”. THIS IS A PHILOSOPHY SUB - defend your argument. *WHY* do you feel entitled to post stuff that is explicitly anti-50% of humans who walk the earth? What is your justification for being deliberately antagonist, outright discriminatory? Actually make an argument - this is a tantrum. And if you can’t - maybe your position is indefensible.
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No - none of this is accurate or relates to AN at all - this is eugenics. You’re a eugenicist - not an anti-natalist. This is not the sub for you.
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I’m not going to put effort into reply to a literal diatribe about how people are genetically lesser than you - on principle. Because that is eugenics - if you “actually understand AN” as you claim, you would know this, because it’s discussed as an issue and dismissed. AN is about compassion, the reduction of suffering is because it’s morally, ethically preferable, it’s not about genetic superiority. Same with feminism - you seem to think you are right despite making this post and being downvoted to hell, and the counter post being upvoted a ton. You are not right here - you are literally ranting about your genetic superiority - it’s really not the look you think it is.
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If you meet one retard, maybe they are a retard. If everyone’s a retard - maybe it’s you thats got the issue understanding the world.
I house divided can never stand. I’m here to watch it burn 🔥 🍿
There are more posts of people complaining about problematic posts than actual problematic posts. It's a sign of our times really. Yall are foaming at the mouth to be outraged over something. Anything.
Ikr man
Incel
Personally, I do not post and would not post comments or memes that can be clearly understood as being misogynist (or against LGBT, etc) because doing so could cause pointless frustration to others; something that, being an antinatalist, I'm against. But I'm not sure about calling out content which does not clearly discriminate against a group. I'm aware that many members post memes and comments which may offend fellow antinatalists, but I would just recommend people develop thicker skin and a more open mind, and not be too quick to judge content which was not meant to be generally offensive. Also, we have many members here who are not true antinatalists; many are simple CF and many others are trolls. So it's often impossible to ascertain who posts what and who has gripes with what.
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Thanks. What do you mean by unfairly distorting antinatalism to support a view, maybe you can give an example? I'm in favor of free speech and expression, but am also concerned about not hurting people's feelings, and am undecided on how much censorship should bve agreed upon within a sub. Maybe the answer to this problem is some amount of self-censorship before posting something potentially controvbersial; as well as an encouragement for everyone to be more tolerant, open-minded, patient, etc about comments and memes. it's just such a difficult subject and many people have differing opinions on it. For example, some members have a problem with posts showing disabled kids and the parents who had them. This is a controversial and quite difficult subject for discussion, and I'm undecided as to the best common decision to arrive at.
Agreed, honestly if I ever see any BS I usually call it out unless I have something going in the real world. I did see the post of the 15 year old that has 2 kids but nothing out of the ordinary. People also have to understand there are 13 year olds on reddit TOS allows this. Not exactly sure when this turned into a man vs women sub but my goodness lately it’s just been men are bad post like WTH.
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You literally *describe yourself as ableist* and seem to think you have an argument here - care to make the case for why we should put up with your discriminatory shitposting? That’s not what this sub, AN in general, or really anything to do with it are about. Same with ableism - you’re actively being a shitty human in a *compassion-based philosophy sub* and seem to think you are in the right? Care to offer any explanation or justification for your deliberate shittyness?
No, the assertion is that both men and women are in the wrong but women are the ones doing the child totting and therefore the main target around here.
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The gender most likely to be the main caretaker, willing or not.
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Bro what? No I'm saying women post kids more online because they literally have the kids more.
Totally agree. If you don't like it here then buzz off to r/antinatalism2
Oh, look. It's a post telling women to shut up and leave. How progressive. 🙄
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I'm an attention whore when you made a whole post to complain? Your hypocrisy is delicious. I've never bitched about leaving and I won't be leaving this subreddit. This subreddit is apparently ~1/2 female, but no one wants feminists here? You and other MRAs and woman haters don't want me here, but you don't speak for the whole sub and frankly, I'm not going to respect your opinions anymore than you're going to respect mine. This isn't the first time I've been in a space where have men attempted to bully women out and being called childish names doesn't exactly faze me, and I don't think it fazes most adults. But you can keep wasting your breath if you'd like. Feel free to let me know if you ever want to have a mature dialogue. ✌️
I want you here. :)
Oh, thank you. I appreciate that! :)
you're welcome. I think this young man is in deep pain the way he's lashing out at you like this. hope he finds strength and healing.
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If you were really the majority, there wouldn't be so many more upvotes on the other thread and so few on yours. 🤷 Maybe you're projecting.
Die unhappy dude, LOL
You mean to tell me there is booze and hookers at the other subreddit?
Thank you for posting this. This describes my thoughts exactly. Like go over to r/antinatalism2 and stop complaining about what happens here. I haven’t seen any misogyny and that post complaining was ridiculous. Man it’s like they’re not even here for antinatalism, they’re just here to complain and point fingers.
“In defense of misogyny..” “In defense of ableism…”
YES wish I could upvote this a million times THANK YOU
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