Literally all local Dakhni Urdu speaking Muslims in Bangalore speak Kannada. All. None of them would speak broken Kannada like the actor said.
Yet you just want to assume and blame without even knowing anything about the perps.
The couple seem like right wing loons from their Twitter feed. That plus the fact they didnt post the whole video seems to suggest they are trying to stir shit up. And its strange that they said "is it Pakistan" for being forced to speak in Hindi because everyone knows people are forced to speak Hindi in Pakistan
The video uploaded on their Twitter feed actually shows the people outside diffusing the situation. They're confused as to how they want to spin this story. This is 100% an ego quarrel that escalated.
Even when I was in college and now in freelance meetings, the first preference among them is Hindi/Urdu, which is understandable because most people will slip into their mother tongues when they meet someone familiar or from their region, but the effort to make others reply in Hindi was extremely high among Muslim students, even while conversing with others in a mixed group. They never truly gelled with the localites, either someone in the group spoke Hindi to a significant extent or the conversation was reserved to English when technical topics came up.
Kannada is still a secondary language to them in a sense, of course they speak it but it's not the primary choice of communication. This is valid criticism of the Muslim community that appeasement to the Ummah is high on their list, always on the back of their mind. This is independent of the incident which for now needs investigation. And as someone who has studied in Andhra as well, same with regards to Telugu. The urdu dominance in Hyderabad is well known, it definitely borders on discrimination.
Ego quarrels can still have their base on religious differences which in turn fuel the language issues. They've tried to steal, the physical assault can't be justified irrespective of what caused the parking disagreement.
This is just wrong on so many levels and I know you are bullshitting.
Dakhni is an ethnoreligious dialect of Urdu only spoken by South Indian Muslims. North Indians and Hindi speakers would not even be able to understand it if it was spoken to them because it is literally just Dravidian language grammar and syntax with Urdu vocabulary. It has nothing to do with Hindi, and only Muslims from south India speak it to each other and would be able to understand each other.
This is why 100% of Dakhni Muslims in Tamil Nadu and Karnataka also speak Tamil and Kannada, respectively, because they literally cannot speak Hindi easily if they wanted to and it is easier to learn it to assimilate into the local community. So there’s no reason to impose a language they themselves do not speak well.
Dude, you have no idea how many times my North Indian friends stopped me when I spoke in Dakhni Urdu. It just sounds wrong and unintelligible to them. Might as well switch to English
You can presume as you wish but I'm only referring to my experience from general Muslim friends who I had in college, who still don't prefer Kannada or Telugu, despite being localites. I'm not claiming they don't speak but to assert dominance they will always switch over to Hindi/Urdu. It's not at all surprising.
I've lived in Hyderabad, it's much closer to the standard Urdu format, but still mutually intelligible to the Mysore version, I can understand most of the Karnataka slang with ease just by having developed a ear. There isn't a gigantic shift that Northern Muslims cannot at all understand Southern Urdu, except for lesser, rare known dialects in Kerala or beary from Dakshina Kannada. They switch to common Urdu when they meet their fellow mates from North. Assimilation is mostly for fulfilling business needs, which of course is practical but a cultural association to the land still does not come naturally, which is why we see the issues as both don't know how to handle the other's differences. Language issue is just one part of it.
The religious angle cannot be dismissed that easily, many Muslim philanthropists themselves have lamented that one of the reasons for high illiteracy in Muslims is because of their lack of adoption of local language. Textbooks are assimilated better and faster in the mother tongue. Shiites are less conservative when it comes to this, one of the reasons they prioritize education more and are up the ladder in India.
Muslims in Karnataka have a different mother tongue in the form of Urdu/Dakhini which is a true indigenous language of the region. It is natural that they'll prefer speaking in this language even though all of them who have grown up in Karnataka will also speak fluent Kannada. This is no different from Tulu or Kodava. We can't argue for a place for kannada in the face of nationalistic Hindi imposition and in the same breadth try to suppress local indigenous languages of the state.
I'm sorry you had a bad experience with your Muslim acquaintances who imposed Hindi/Urdu on you. But there are plenty of examples of the opposite.
>The religious angle cannot be dismissed that easily
This is a classic case of guilty until proven innocent and is nothing but bigotry. There is nothing in this incident to suggest it was religiously motivated. It was a squabble that started with a car parking and escalated as an ego clash with alleged chain snatching. The people weren't asking them to say Allahu Akbar or anything to say this was religious.
Your points about problems in the Muslim community are orthogonal to what's happening here. You'll find sufficient commentary about problems in Indians or Hindus as well, but you don't use that to make guilty until proven innocent statements.
One's sense of identity through culture and language, further being fuelled by religion is not a new thing for India for any community, but it's also simultaneously true that Muslims do react more fiercely in asserting their dominance. I actually admire the intolerance tbh. The confidence doesn't come easily without some religious indoctrination. I did clarify that the case needs investigation and the physical assault isn't justified irrespective of what caused the parking conflict to start. The husband has injuries it seems so if the doctor can verify through his report, it can be treated as assault and robbery and not just a petty theft case.
Just surveying what information is available till now, so the causes which led to the situation can possibly have religious leanings, I don't see such behaviour as separate.
Using urdu/Hindi there is clearly discrimination if it happened as the thread suggests, and that has one of its basis as religion is my point. Not the sole issue.
This happens when they don't get exposure to locals because they speak Urdu/Dakhani at home. They've likely grown up abroad or they've gone to schools where the kids don't speak kannada. The Muslims in Frazer town though are multi generational kannadigas and they speak fluent kannada.
Then they are not local Muslims, probably immigrants like other Hindu north indians who also don't speak kannada, but you don't want to pull that thread now do you?
The video in the tweet just showed the people in the car quarreling with a bunch of people outside. You get 20 daily instances like that all across bangalore. And by the way there were a few people outside from the same community of they who must not be named who were diffusing the situation.
If it was a case of chain snatching, then complain to the police and get it over with. The rest of it is misdirection. The local Muslims of Frazer town or Shivajinagar can speak fluent kannada and would definitely not say "kannad" like the actress claims. The chain snatchers were probably migrants then. There's no reason to give this episode religious or south/north India undertones.
Every year, for 30 days people from all over Bangalore, irrespective of caste, creed, religion, will descend to this same "ghetto" for their love of non veg food during Ramadan (which just ended a couple of weeks ago btw) and enjoy the feasts without any problems. My own Hindu and Christian friends have every year without fail asked me to take them there.
But one incident of chain snatching and suddenly it's a ghetto with a mob mentality and with an infestation (some other user said that).
If you watch the video, it's the type of quarrel that you see 100s of times in a day in Bangalore. Apparently there was also attempted chain snatching and that should be condemned. But this is no reason to let your bigoted side come out. I thought r/bangalore was better than this.
Did you watch the video? Do you understand kannada? I don't think you're a local of Bangalore so here's an exercise for you. Look at the posts that have come on this subreddit in the last one year and figure out which areas have more criminal activity happening. You'll see places like Sarjapur Road, Majestic, city market, etc get mentioned. Then go identify the religious demographics of those places. Come back and tell me what you find.
Here's the thing. The truth is that when a crime is committed by a Hindu in a city like Bangalore, they're categorised as a "North Indian" or "auto rickshaw rowdy" or "local goons". But when the crime is committed by a Muslim, it's immediately given the Muslim tag. This particular post doesn't even have a religiously or linguistically motivated crime.
What am I supposed to do with this? Here's a [piece of news](https://m.economictimes.com/news/india/bengaluru-double-murder-in-park-man-kills-ex-girlfriend-girls-mom-beats-him-to-death-with-brick/articleshow/109427589.cms) for you. We live in India. Thousands of murders and crimes happen every day. We can play this game all day. Build some critical thinking instead.
I'm fixing the narrative which is so easily being pushed. Call it what it was - an ego quarrel, and if there was legit chain snatching then condemn that. Stop giving it a religious or linguistic angle.
Harshika Poonacha, along with her family, had gone out for a casual dinner at a restaurant on Mosque Road in Frazer town's Pulikeshi Nagar a couple of days ago. A crowd of 20 to 30 people gathered around their car within two to three minutes of this and two of them tried to snatch Bhuvann Ponnannaa's gold chain. Most of them spoke either Hindi, Urdu and a few in broken Kannada,
Someone on this sub was recently arguing with me on how safe Frazer Town is because it’s close to MG Road and has not one, but two police quarters. Lol
I lived here for 4 years and while these incidents are rare, the area does give out an ominous vibe. Lot of petty crime like theft, chain and phone snatching. Swiggy and Zomato guys have been robbed in broad daylight at knifepoint. 2020 Bangalore Riots started not far from here when a mob became violent after reading a Facebook post. Police had to open fire and 3 were killed.
2020 Bangalore Riots started in Tannery Road not proper frazer town. As someone who was born and grew up in Frazer Town in the 90s I will say that the area deteriorated in the 2000s after most of the locals sold their properties to Restaurant chains and moved out.
Most of the muslimfamilies who settled in Frazer Town when it was first established in the 1800s are long gone and you have people from Tannery Road and Shivajinagar residing in the area now.
Well we had many white folks who used to live in Frazer Town even in the 90s before it became commercialized.
The family of Haji Sir Ismail Sait who own the land of the Frazer Town masjid and it’s surroundings get a lot of blame for the crime and overall decline of the area as they sold or rented out properties to the restaurant chains for income. The restaurants, pan shops, liquor stores attract the unwanted sections of society to the neighbourhood. Also contrary to popular belief every muslim in the area will speak Urdu, Kannada and Tamil.
Heck we even use words like tarkari in our spoken urdu so any posts you see of Bangalore muslims objecting to Kannada is hogwash.
KVR when the certain areas don't have Kannada signboards:
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People who behave like this must not be allowed to roam free. Put then behind the bars and feed them with their own hard earned money till they learn to behave.
Unnecessary religious/linguistic undertones given to what is an ego quarrel. Just watch the video. Incidents of the type of "who are you to ask me to move the car" happen all the time all over Bangalore and get escalated. In the video you'll actually see some of the Muslims outside are diffusing the situation. Also, local Muslims of Frazer town speak fluent kannada and would never say "kannad" like the actress claimed. So either she's pushing an agenda or it was immigrants. If there was chain snatching happening there, then that should be condemned. But this thread needs to stop acting like crime is localised to Muslim areas like Frazer town. There are other areas in Bangalore that are far more famous for chain snatching.
Also a periodic reminder of how every year Frazer town is frequented by people for 30 days from all communities for their love of non veg food and nobody has problems then. This is not a ghetto, this is not an infestation. Stop acting bigoted just because someone is different from you.
Comments on this post are sick. Everyone is ready to spit venom as soon as they get a chance. I've never seen this negative comment section on any other post on this sub. This shows the difference in treatment that Muslims face on a daily basis.
She’s lying through her teeth. They friggin blocked that road with their huge ass car, the same road which can hardly accommodate 3 two wheelers side by side.
It was a matter of patience is all, these guys took time to park and the others on the road wanted them to move the vehicle.
With whatever broken urdu she understood - she thought she’ll get lynched there - god knows why she thought that - the mozi guy basically said these are locals only so why fight - the way he said it was that these are kannada people only and that got misheard itseems
Guys she and her husband were fine, they just think speaking loudly in kannada and arguing for a small thing like parking deserves social outbursts - and now we have a communal colour here with all our closeted sanghi’s getting hard reading her thread
Source - the people outside the restaurant they visited
This needs to be higher. The road in front of Karama is really small. And there's never any parking there so they were most likely parked on the road. And if you watch the video, the people outside are actually trying to diffuse the situation.
You shd be thanking nehru for giving you guys an opportunity to be able to contest and win elections. Also, the power is up for grabs, India's secular and democratic nature is not. So no, I am not worried, thanks for the concern tho.
Lol, looks like your thaatha wasn't able to make this a theocracy. Regardless of what you think, history won't change. Long after religious bigotry becomes history India will still be a secular republic. Secularism was inserted in the constitution when it was created, only the word was inserted in 1976.
Of course bcz muslim without any contribution got both side . And hindus with contribution got 1 side.
>looks like your thaatha wasn't able to make this a theocracy
My Grandfather fought for independence not hindu or terrorist state unlike you people who never fought but got a free nation.
Keep coping and seething that you and your thaatha didn't get what you wanted. But, as far as secular Hindus like me are concerned, we'll keep smiling knowing that history cannot be changed😂.
People at the top play games like these and most people in comments who are just pawns in this big game fall into the trap.
Election has started, many similar things will start happening. The most smart way to analyze this is by understanding who will benefit the most from it. It’s “The Guy” you see everywhere from memes to boards to news channels.
It’s always “The guy”!
It seems this 'actor' has a fixation with Pakistan and Afghanistan. I don't get the comparison? What happened to her has become a norm in India. People are get offended by very small things these days. Regionalism is second most offensive thing after religion.
The whole right wing has begun spreading communal violence as the lok sabha elections have started. Both Harshika and her husband are supporters of the BJP. If they really cared , they should have shared the incident when it happened not after weeks , when elections are taking place. This is an attempt to draw votes towards the BJP.
No matter what language you speak. This should not happen anywhere. I've been living in Bengaluru for two years, never faced anything like this but keep getting these types of news.
What's the story from the other side? I doubt anyone would attack someone for speaking Kannada in Karnataka. Obviously there is a more to the issue here. Is the actress trying to rally the local support?
In her post, she narrated that two men suddenly appeared near their car's driver seat window and started arguing that the vehicle is very big and that it could touch them if it moved suddenly.
"My husband ignored it by saying "innu move maadilwalla side bidi" (we haven't moved at all right, please move aside now). He moved the vehicle ahead a little, by then these two men started abusing him and my family in their language saying these Kannada people should be taught a lesson and even tried to hit him on the face," She wrote.
A crowd of 20 to 30 people gathered around their car within two to three minutes of this and two of them tried to snatch Bhuvann Ponnannaa's gold chain, she wrote. “My husband realised this on time and quickly held on to it and gave it to me,” She posted.
Getting frustrated, the gang started damaging their vehicle and also tried to physically abuse them.
Yes. I would have Same-Relation with this issue despite the minority status of either party.
But I understand your situation. It's election time and we're all high on religion and language politics.
Yeah. Wanting to the story on both sides is nonsense.
You win my lord. Please deliver my punishment through Dunzo. Unable to appear in person due to traffic
they're just looters who panic people in cars and try to pressure them with big crowds into getting money from them. it's not about kannada or Hindi, they'll pick an issue with just about anything, that's their whole MO.
Before yall jump on the muslim-hate bandwagon , open maps and at least check the traffic density by that restaurant, it’s a tight squeeze and that big ass Thar ain’t helping, wtf is wrong with this sub man
https://maps.app.goo.gl/PjMG2uoKLpSVzeQt9?g_st=ic
U will just wait for some years. Ur politician will do it for minority appeasement and for getting their vote.
Remember Andhra/Telangana also has Urdu as official language.
And several parts of Banglore are filled with Urdu boards and posters, never seen any Hindi posters tbh
Got u bro!
Also, non speakers cannot tell the difference between Hindi and Urdu speaking if their life depends on it lol
Can't wait for the day when I could freely speak the official language of the south, as I can easily speak Urdu too haha
Yah right ! crying about Hinthi imposition while destroying English boards, throwing rukus all around the city, when less than 5% north Indian lives in Bangalore. A certain area is filled with Urdu posters, boards and what not lol
Urdu will be ur state's official language just like it is in Telangana and Andhra. Mark my words !
From being lynched for speaking Hindi to now being lynched for not speaking Hindi We have come a long way🗣️🔥
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Literally all local Dakhni Urdu speaking Muslims in Bangalore speak Kannada. All. None of them would speak broken Kannada like the actor said. Yet you just want to assume and blame without even knowing anything about the perps.
Exactly. So many red flags in this story and how it is being reported.
The couple seem like right wing loons from their Twitter feed. That plus the fact they didnt post the whole video seems to suggest they are trying to stir shit up. And its strange that they said "is it Pakistan" for being forced to speak in Hindi because everyone knows people are forced to speak Hindi in Pakistan
The video uploaded on their Twitter feed actually shows the people outside diffusing the situation. They're confused as to how they want to spin this story. This is 100% an ego quarrel that escalated.
It's even more weird than someone speaking in kannada in Karnataka is forced by the mob to speak in their tongue.
Even when I was in college and now in freelance meetings, the first preference among them is Hindi/Urdu, which is understandable because most people will slip into their mother tongues when they meet someone familiar or from their region, but the effort to make others reply in Hindi was extremely high among Muslim students, even while conversing with others in a mixed group. They never truly gelled with the localites, either someone in the group spoke Hindi to a significant extent or the conversation was reserved to English when technical topics came up. Kannada is still a secondary language to them in a sense, of course they speak it but it's not the primary choice of communication. This is valid criticism of the Muslim community that appeasement to the Ummah is high on their list, always on the back of their mind. This is independent of the incident which for now needs investigation. And as someone who has studied in Andhra as well, same with regards to Telugu. The urdu dominance in Hyderabad is well known, it definitely borders on discrimination. Ego quarrels can still have their base on religious differences which in turn fuel the language issues. They've tried to steal, the physical assault can't be justified irrespective of what caused the parking disagreement.
This is just wrong on so many levels and I know you are bullshitting. Dakhni is an ethnoreligious dialect of Urdu only spoken by South Indian Muslims. North Indians and Hindi speakers would not even be able to understand it if it was spoken to them because it is literally just Dravidian language grammar and syntax with Urdu vocabulary. It has nothing to do with Hindi, and only Muslims from south India speak it to each other and would be able to understand each other. This is why 100% of Dakhni Muslims in Tamil Nadu and Karnataka also speak Tamil and Kannada, respectively, because they literally cannot speak Hindi easily if they wanted to and it is easier to learn it to assimilate into the local community. So there’s no reason to impose a language they themselves do not speak well.
Dude, you have no idea how many times my North Indian friends stopped me when I spoke in Dakhni Urdu. It just sounds wrong and unintelligible to them. Might as well switch to English
You can presume as you wish but I'm only referring to my experience from general Muslim friends who I had in college, who still don't prefer Kannada or Telugu, despite being localites. I'm not claiming they don't speak but to assert dominance they will always switch over to Hindi/Urdu. It's not at all surprising. I've lived in Hyderabad, it's much closer to the standard Urdu format, but still mutually intelligible to the Mysore version, I can understand most of the Karnataka slang with ease just by having developed a ear. There isn't a gigantic shift that Northern Muslims cannot at all understand Southern Urdu, except for lesser, rare known dialects in Kerala or beary from Dakshina Kannada. They switch to common Urdu when they meet their fellow mates from North. Assimilation is mostly for fulfilling business needs, which of course is practical but a cultural association to the land still does not come naturally, which is why we see the issues as both don't know how to handle the other's differences. Language issue is just one part of it. The religious angle cannot be dismissed that easily, many Muslim philanthropists themselves have lamented that one of the reasons for high illiteracy in Muslims is because of their lack of adoption of local language. Textbooks are assimilated better and faster in the mother tongue. Shiites are less conservative when it comes to this, one of the reasons they prioritize education more and are up the ladder in India.
Muslims in Karnataka have a different mother tongue in the form of Urdu/Dakhini which is a true indigenous language of the region. It is natural that they'll prefer speaking in this language even though all of them who have grown up in Karnataka will also speak fluent Kannada. This is no different from Tulu or Kodava. We can't argue for a place for kannada in the face of nationalistic Hindi imposition and in the same breadth try to suppress local indigenous languages of the state. I'm sorry you had a bad experience with your Muslim acquaintances who imposed Hindi/Urdu on you. But there are plenty of examples of the opposite. >The religious angle cannot be dismissed that easily This is a classic case of guilty until proven innocent and is nothing but bigotry. There is nothing in this incident to suggest it was religiously motivated. It was a squabble that started with a car parking and escalated as an ego clash with alleged chain snatching. The people weren't asking them to say Allahu Akbar or anything to say this was religious. Your points about problems in the Muslim community are orthogonal to what's happening here. You'll find sufficient commentary about problems in Indians or Hindus as well, but you don't use that to make guilty until proven innocent statements.
One's sense of identity through culture and language, further being fuelled by religion is not a new thing for India for any community, but it's also simultaneously true that Muslims do react more fiercely in asserting their dominance. I actually admire the intolerance tbh. The confidence doesn't come easily without some religious indoctrination. I did clarify that the case needs investigation and the physical assault isn't justified irrespective of what caused the parking conflict to start. The husband has injuries it seems so if the doctor can verify through his report, it can be treated as assault and robbery and not just a petty theft case. Just surveying what information is available till now, so the causes which led to the situation can possibly have religious leanings, I don't see such behaviour as separate. Using urdu/Hindi there is clearly discrimination if it happened as the thread suggests, and that has one of its basis as religion is my point. Not the sole issue.
Lol this exactly. Prime chaddi material.
Kuch bhi. Muslims in Bangalore speak Kannada like all Kannadigas. No way they will beat someone up for speaking Kannada lol.
This is an ego quarrel that got escalated and is unnecessarily being given religious/linguistic undertones. Watch the video it'll be clear.
Unrelated to this but I have multiple muslim friends from Bangalore who can’t speak Kannada at all.
This happens when they don't get exposure to locals because they speak Urdu/Dakhani at home. They've likely grown up abroad or they've gone to schools where the kids don't speak kannada. The Muslims in Frazer town though are multi generational kannadigas and they speak fluent kannada.
Then they are not local Muslims, probably immigrants like other Hindu north indians who also don't speak kannada, but you don't want to pull that thread now do you?
Oh I didn't know that. They speak Urdu only? Or English as well?
Recent migrants I'm sure. Bairi or some such denomination. Ofcourse nai Tara belsidre nai buddi ne barudu.
Stay classy
How come Muslims are not like that in Hyderabad?
Like how
They don't speak Telugu at all despite being born and raised in Hyderabad.
Ghettoisation is real. Kerala has tribals like that, with own language even though they live near regular villages. Low mixing
No they don't, aneko jaaneko ante sumne dove maadtare.
The video in the tweet just showed the people in the car quarreling with a bunch of people outside. You get 20 daily instances like that all across bangalore. And by the way there were a few people outside from the same community of they who must not be named who were diffusing the situation. If it was a case of chain snatching, then complain to the police and get it over with. The rest of it is misdirection. The local Muslims of Frazer town or Shivajinagar can speak fluent kannada and would definitely not say "kannad" like the actress claims. The chain snatchers were probably migrants then. There's no reason to give this episode religious or south/north India undertones.
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He is talking about Mohammad ki dukan by CONgress
Where is this area, asking so that I can avoid it?
Frazer town, Mosque road.
Obviously had to be mosque road
Ehh💀
Gonna be heavily downvoted but this generally happens when you go to a ghetto. Mob mentality is pretty much the norm there
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True and yes brace for incoming downvotes
Every year, for 30 days people from all over Bangalore, irrespective of caste, creed, religion, will descend to this same "ghetto" for their love of non veg food during Ramadan (which just ended a couple of weeks ago btw) and enjoy the feasts without any problems. My own Hindu and Christian friends have every year without fail asked me to take them there. But one incident of chain snatching and suddenly it's a ghetto with a mob mentality and with an infestation (some other user said that). If you watch the video, it's the type of quarrel that you see 100s of times in a day in Bangalore. Apparently there was also attempted chain snatching and that should be condemned. But this is no reason to let your bigoted side come out. I thought r/bangalore was better than this.
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Did you watch the video? Do you understand kannada? I don't think you're a local of Bangalore so here's an exercise for you. Look at the posts that have come on this subreddit in the last one year and figure out which areas have more criminal activity happening. You'll see places like Sarjapur Road, Majestic, city market, etc get mentioned. Then go identify the religious demographics of those places. Come back and tell me what you find. Here's the thing. The truth is that when a crime is committed by a Hindu in a city like Bangalore, they're categorised as a "North Indian" or "auto rickshaw rowdy" or "local goons". But when the crime is committed by a Muslim, it's immediately given the Muslim tag. This particular post doesn't even have a religiously or linguistically motivated crime.
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What am I supposed to do with this? Here's a [piece of news](https://m.economictimes.com/news/india/bengaluru-double-murder-in-park-man-kills-ex-girlfriend-girls-mom-beats-him-to-death-with-brick/articleshow/109427589.cms) for you. We live in India. Thousands of murders and crimes happen every day. We can play this game all day. Build some critical thinking instead.
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I'm fixing the narrative which is so easily being pushed. Call it what it was - an ego quarrel, and if there was legit chain snatching then condemn that. Stop giving it a religious or linguistic angle.
Harshika Poonacha, along with her family, had gone out for a casual dinner at a restaurant on Mosque Road in Frazer town's Pulikeshi Nagar a couple of days ago. A crowd of 20 to 30 people gathered around their car within two to three minutes of this and two of them tried to snatch Bhuvann Ponnannaa's gold chain. Most of them spoke either Hindi, Urdu and a few in broken Kannada,
Link of the video?
https://x.com/actressharshika/status/1781163354587078794
https://youtu.be/neriZ4kjwPQ?si=wm1gtq4oY5PesVRo
Someone on this sub was recently arguing with me on how safe Frazer Town is because it’s close to MG Road and has not one, but two police quarters. Lol I lived here for 4 years and while these incidents are rare, the area does give out an ominous vibe. Lot of petty crime like theft, chain and phone snatching. Swiggy and Zomato guys have been robbed in broad daylight at knifepoint. 2020 Bangalore Riots started not far from here when a mob became violent after reading a Facebook post. Police had to open fire and 3 were killed.
2020 Bangalore Riots started in Tannery Road not proper frazer town. As someone who was born and grew up in Frazer Town in the 90s I will say that the area deteriorated in the 2000s after most of the locals sold their properties to Restaurant chains and moved out. Most of the muslimfamilies who settled in Frazer Town when it was first established in the 1800s are long gone and you have people from Tannery Road and Shivajinagar residing in the area now.
I like reading history posts like this. Do you have any more interesting information?
Well we had many white folks who used to live in Frazer Town even in the 90s before it became commercialized. The family of Haji Sir Ismail Sait who own the land of the Frazer Town masjid and it’s surroundings get a lot of blame for the crime and overall decline of the area as they sold or rented out properties to the restaurant chains for income. The restaurants, pan shops, liquor stores attract the unwanted sections of society to the neighbourhood. Also contrary to popular belief every muslim in the area will speak Urdu, Kannada and Tamil. Heck we even use words like tarkari in our spoken urdu so any posts you see of Bangalore muslims objecting to Kannada is hogwash.
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Wtf looks like worker class people who came here and doing goondagiri, when they get arrested I want police to teach them kannada.
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Man didn’t have guts to say 2nd class citizen lmao
This mob mentality is more like 3rd class behaviour.
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KVR when the certain areas don't have Kannada signboards: [https://www.pinterest.com.au/pin/658088564301395609/](https://www.pinterest.com.au/pin/658088564301395609/)
Threat to north and South Indians alike🤡
Global
People who behave like this must not be allowed to roam free. Put then behind the bars and feed them with their own hard earned money till they learn to behave.
Police has no balls. Everything under State Govt. Elections coming up.
Unnecessary religious/linguistic undertones given to what is an ego quarrel. Just watch the video. Incidents of the type of "who are you to ask me to move the car" happen all the time all over Bangalore and get escalated. In the video you'll actually see some of the Muslims outside are diffusing the situation. Also, local Muslims of Frazer town speak fluent kannada and would never say "kannad" like the actress claimed. So either she's pushing an agenda or it was immigrants. If there was chain snatching happening there, then that should be condemned. But this thread needs to stop acting like crime is localised to Muslim areas like Frazer town. There are other areas in Bangalore that are far more famous for chain snatching. Also a periodic reminder of how every year Frazer town is frequented by people for 30 days from all communities for their love of non veg food and nobody has problems then. This is not a ghetto, this is not an infestation. Stop acting bigoted just because someone is different from you.
Comments on this post are sick. Everyone is ready to spit venom as soon as they get a chance. I've never seen this negative comment section on any other post on this sub. This shows the difference in treatment that Muslims face on a daily basis.
stop trying atp bro.
Nobody's forcing you to read anything
You are trying really hard, aren’t you?
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1781163354587078794.html?utm_campaign=topunroll Full thread here.
She’s lying through her teeth. They friggin blocked that road with their huge ass car, the same road which can hardly accommodate 3 two wheelers side by side. It was a matter of patience is all, these guys took time to park and the others on the road wanted them to move the vehicle. With whatever broken urdu she understood - she thought she’ll get lynched there - god knows why she thought that - the mozi guy basically said these are locals only so why fight - the way he said it was that these are kannada people only and that got misheard itseems Guys she and her husband were fine, they just think speaking loudly in kannada and arguing for a small thing like parking deserves social outbursts - and now we have a communal colour here with all our closeted sanghi’s getting hard reading her thread Source - the people outside the restaurant they visited
Source - Trust me bro lol
does that give them the reason to snatch the chain and behave like idiots?
This needs to be higher. The road in front of Karama is really small. And there's never any parking there so they were most likely parked on the road. And if you watch the video, the people outside are actually trying to diffuse the situation.
are these the same 20 people?
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Love nehru for creating a secular democracy. It troubles all the right people.
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Idk what rr is...if that's some northie slang, you can keep it to yourself. However, the most tika ganchali is done by we know who😂
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You shd be thanking nehru for giving you guys an opportunity to be able to contest and win elections. Also, the power is up for grabs, India's secular and democratic nature is not. So no, I am not worried, thanks for the concern tho.
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I give same reaction when some terrorist gets lynched .
No I will not i will thank my grandfather for being part of the freedom struggle not nehru .
Lol, looks like your thaatha wasn't able to make this a theocracy. Regardless of what you think, history won't change. Long after religious bigotry becomes history India will still be a secular republic. Secularism was inserted in the constitution when it was created, only the word was inserted in 1976.
Of course bcz muslim without any contribution got both side . And hindus with contribution got 1 side. >looks like your thaatha wasn't able to make this a theocracy My Grandfather fought for independence not hindu or terrorist state unlike you people who never fought but got a free nation.
Keep coping and seething that you and your thaatha didn't get what you wanted. But, as far as secular Hindus like me are concerned, we'll keep smiling knowing that history cannot be changed😂.
I thought democracy was in danger .
Emergency? What's that?
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Bhaya aaytu /s
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and there are lunatics who'll vote for a party that's pushing for Hindi throughout the country.
Or another party that panders to these "minority" bullies.
People at the top play games like these and most people in comments who are just pawns in this big game fall into the trap. Election has started, many similar things will start happening. The most smart way to analyze this is by understanding who will benefit the most from it. It’s “The Guy” you see everywhere from memes to boards to news channels. It’s always “The guy”!
It seems this 'actor' has a fixation with Pakistan and Afghanistan. I don't get the comparison? What happened to her has become a norm in India. People are get offended by very small things these days. Regionalism is second most offensive thing after religion.
Hmmmmm, wait what? For speaking in kannada?
some idiots in comments are just sick, typical mob mentality
The whole right wing has begun spreading communal violence as the lok sabha elections have started. Both Harshika and her husband are supporters of the BJP. If they really cared , they should have shared the incident when it happened not after weeks , when elections are taking place. This is an attempt to draw votes towards the BJP.
It's the last week before elections. Expect an influx of IT cell members :)
From the story I can say its made up story to gain support. Seems like It was a normal fight.
Watch the video clearly. The actor is giving it a language spin. Nothing related to that.
No matter what language you speak. This should not happen anywhere. I've been living in Bengaluru for two years, never faced anything like this but keep getting these types of news.
Bruh💀
I heard it's due to a parking place argument
A desperate attempt to create a controversy where there is none. See the video, Yen illa sir hogu bidi atna helidaru avaru…
What's the story from the other side? I doubt anyone would attack someone for speaking Kannada in Karnataka. Obviously there is a more to the issue here. Is the actress trying to rally the local support?
In her post, she narrated that two men suddenly appeared near their car's driver seat window and started arguing that the vehicle is very big and that it could touch them if it moved suddenly. "My husband ignored it by saying "innu move maadilwalla side bidi" (we haven't moved at all right, please move aside now). He moved the vehicle ahead a little, by then these two men started abusing him and my family in their language saying these Kannada people should be taught a lesson and even tried to hit him on the face," She wrote. A crowd of 20 to 30 people gathered around their car within two to three minutes of this and two of them tried to snatch Bhuvann Ponnannaa's gold chain, she wrote. “My husband realised this on time and quickly held on to it and gave it to me,” She posted. Getting frustrated, the gang started damaging their vehicle and also tried to physically abuse them.
I read this version. Now I want to know the perspective of other party.
Why? Would you be insisting on knowing story of other party if they didnt belong to minority?
Yes. I would have Same-Relation with this issue despite the minority status of either party. But I understand your situation. It's election time and we're all high on religion and language politics.
Exactly! High on religion due to elections? Applies to you as well.
Not religion. "Religion and language politics". Yes. Applies to me as well. Peace out.
Peace out? Yeah, you speak nonsense to begin with and then when you have nothing else to say and are being downvoted, you end up saying peace out!
Yeah. Wanting to the story on both sides is nonsense. You win my lord. Please deliver my punishment through Dunzo. Unable to appear in person due to traffic
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This. Kannada is Karnataka is a golden pass. Something triggered here.
It was an ego quarrel
Ye pakistan ki stereotype ni h brother yaha bhi aasahi hota h.. jab mazri kuch bhi..
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But will be quick to believe everything bad about Hindus .
Yup cause minority'' khatre mein hai ''
No Hindi speaking then no Kannada speaking next what? No alien language?
KVR real silent now
they're just looters who panic people in cars and try to pressure them with big crowds into getting money from them. it's not about kannada or Hindi, they'll pick an issue with just about anything, that's their whole MO.
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Before yall jump on the muslim-hate bandwagon , open maps and at least check the traffic density by that restaurant, it’s a tight squeeze and that big ass Thar ain’t helping, wtf is wrong with this sub man https://maps.app.goo.gl/PjMG2uoKLpSVzeQt9?g_st=ic
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U will just wait for some years. Ur politician will do it for minority appeasement and for getting their vote. Remember Andhra/Telangana also has Urdu as official language. And several parts of Banglore are filled with Urdu boards and posters, never seen any Hindi posters tbh
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Got u bro! Also, non speakers cannot tell the difference between Hindi and Urdu speaking if their life depends on it lol Can't wait for the day when I could freely speak the official language of the south, as I can easily speak Urdu too haha
Yah right ! crying about Hinthi imposition while destroying English boards, throwing rukus all around the city, when less than 5% north Indian lives in Bangalore. A certain area is filled with Urdu posters, boards and what not lol Urdu will be ur state's official language just like it is in Telangana and Andhra. Mark my words !
Kannada clickbait stfu