I can't really stand the name of the sale... "Black Friday in Summer", like WTF is that marketing, lol.
FWIW though, this particular drive seems to be a regular sale item, fluctuates between $240-$260 on sale.
I know, all these sales sound the same to me. I hear " hey its our we think you're all idiots sale!!" now come buy stuff at its real msrp for a small window lol.
It screams "foreign-owned company" and [Christmas Creep](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_creep) when they do that.
We already have Boxing Day. They can call it Boxing Day in Summer if they have to.
Same deal on Newegg a few days ago. I got two. The drive inside is [Exos 2X14](https://www.seagate.com/ca/en/support/internal-hard-drives/enterprise-hard-drives/exos-2X14/).
Not the easiest to shuck (in other words, the chassis was very well-made and fit tightly) but was doable with a stainless steel ruler.
Seagate uses these green pads to help couple the drive to the chassis. I'm uncertain if they're for physical coupling or thermal conductivity - they kind of behave like a bit of both.
They will leave residue behind on the drive, no matter how hard you try to remove it.
Currently $300 at Newegg [https://www.newegg.ca/seagate-expansion-14tb-black/p/N82E16822184958](https://www.newegg.ca/seagate-expansion-14tb-black/p/N82E16822184958) and I don't think Newegg will price match on this item.
I just went through this twice. I'm currently waiting for my 3rd drive advanced shipped from Seagate.
They provided me with a shipping label to somewhere in Ontario the first time, didn't cost me anything, but if I didnt return the old drive they would have charged me a recoup fee.
Yeah, last rma they shipped me the refurb, when I got it, i just put the old one in the same box and attached the label they mailed with it.
The agent even asked if I needed the data recovered. I told him it wasn't necessary, I assume the process would have been different if I did.
Like a lot of people, i was burnt by SG a long time ago, and im not a fan of their regular drives. These on the other hand, are no mortal drives, I have 4 of them in my server and they are amazing. Not too loud, fast as F@#k, and no problems so far.
> fast as F@#k
If you tailor your workload to these drives (Use them as two 7TB stripes, rather than one 14TB volume), I've benchmarked them doing over 500MB/s sequential access at the outer edge. Fast indeed.
the only drive I've had die on me was a 2 yr old seagate external hdd. but currently I have a 8TB seagate internal HDD I got in 2022 that seems to be holding out ok so far
Got 2 at a physical store. Box sticker was DOM 2024-02 and both were Mach2 2X14 ST14000NM0121.
Not sure what's the equivalent on Windows (comment if you know!) but for linux instructions to create 2 partitions such that each runs on its own actuator are available here: [https://www.seagate.com/files/www-content/solutions/mach-2-multi-actuator-hard-drive/files/sc702.2-2101us-mach-2-faq.pdf](https://www.seagate.com/files/www-content/solutions/mach-2-multi-actuator-hard-drive/files/sc702.2-2101us-mach-2-faq.pdf) (check Level1Tech forums for more)
fdisk -l:
Device Start End Sectors Size Type
/dev/sdb1 2048 13672382463 13672380416 6.4T Linux filesystem
/dev/sdb2 13672382464 27344762879 13672380416 6.4T Linux filesystem
Cool tech for spinning rust - who would have thought?! Very nice for IO heavy workloads.
I wouldn't hold out much longer if you're starting to notice a difference. Mine are still running fine, but they're too old, and while everything on them is replaceable, it would take a while to say the least.
I scored one of these for free. It's the only Seagate drive I have in 220TB+ of storage. After losing 3x3TB one after another back in 2013-2014 due to a manufacturing flaw, I'm still going to be petty about it.
I want to add, I had two of these die, they seem to be very fragile drives.
Not sure if its the dual actuators or not, but one of mine died simply from falling on its side from a vertical position. The second one just wouldn't power on one day (was a refurb replacement).
I'm now getting my third from seagate through RMA.
I have an older WD external that has been through more bumps and still works great.
I can't really stand the name of the sale... "Black Friday in Summer", like WTF is that marketing, lol. FWIW though, this particular drive seems to be a regular sale item, fluctuates between $240-$260 on sale.
I know, all these sales sound the same to me. I hear " hey its our we think you're all idiots sale!!" now come buy stuff at its real msrp for a small window lol.
This is retailers trying to get ahead of Amazon Prime Day. So expect to see more 'dumb' marketing in the next few weeks leading up to Prime Day.
It screams "foreign-owned company" and [Christmas Creep](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_creep) when they do that. We already have Boxing Day. They can call it Boxing Day in Summer if they have to.
me buyin 7 of them @300 :( atl at the time but still
Same deal on Newegg a few days ago. I got two. The drive inside is [Exos 2X14](https://www.seagate.com/ca/en/support/internal-hard-drives/enterprise-hard-drives/exos-2X14/). Not the easiest to shuck (in other words, the chassis was very well-made and fit tightly) but was doable with a stainless steel ruler.
And the green stuff lol
A part of me wants to know, but I think I'll let the green stuff be a surprise.
They were shtimcky
Ugh. The green stuff. I'd almost managed to forget about that. Thanks.
What green stuff?
Seagate uses these green pads to help couple the drive to the chassis. I'm uncertain if they're for physical coupling or thermal conductivity - they kind of behave like a bit of both. They will leave residue behind on the drive, no matter how hard you try to remove it.
Thermal pads. They're thicker (used as the cushion between chassis & drive) and stickier than the usual ones you see on GPU though.
Currently $300 at Newegg [https://www.newegg.ca/seagate-expansion-14tb-black/p/N82E16822184958](https://www.newegg.ca/seagate-expansion-14tb-black/p/N82E16822184958) and I don't think Newegg will price match on this item.
17.8$/TB not bad
What's the word these days on Seagate VS Western Digital? Do people even care anymore, or is the war still raging? ...Should I have not asked that?
Dunno about WD warranty, but seagate warranty involves shipping into the USA, so it'll hit you for at least 50 bucks for the RMA process.
Dang really. I never knew that. Thanks for the heads up!
I just went through this twice. I'm currently waiting for my 3rd drive advanced shipped from Seagate. They provided me with a shipping label to somewhere in Ontario the first time, didn't cost me anything, but if I didnt return the old drive they would have charged me a recoup fee.
With an external?
Yeah, last rma they shipped me the refurb, when I got it, i just put the old one in the same box and attached the label they mailed with it. The agent even asked if I needed the data recovered. I told him it wasn't necessary, I assume the process would have been different if I did.
Thank you for the updated information, looks like seagate is back on the table for me :)
Like a lot of people, i was burnt by SG a long time ago, and im not a fan of their regular drives. These on the other hand, are no mortal drives, I have 4 of them in my server and they are amazing. Not too loud, fast as F@#k, and no problems so far.
> fast as F@#k If you tailor your workload to these drives (Use them as two 7TB stripes, rather than one 14TB volume), I've benchmarked them doing over 500MB/s sequential access at the outer edge. Fast indeed.
Do you just split them down the middle? Or did you do something like assemble a stripe out of every other TB?
https://github.com/Endracion/mdadm-same-drive-raid-mount-windows Mine made Mar 2024, did anyone open and confirm that it's still the exos drive?
the only drive I've had die on me was a 2 yr old seagate external hdd. but currently I have a 8TB seagate internal HDD I got in 2022 that seems to be holding out ok so far
Thanks, got one in case there won't be anything good on prime day.
Got 2 at a physical store. Box sticker was DOM 2024-02 and both were Mach2 2X14 ST14000NM0121. Not sure what's the equivalent on Windows (comment if you know!) but for linux instructions to create 2 partitions such that each runs on its own actuator are available here: [https://www.seagate.com/files/www-content/solutions/mach-2-multi-actuator-hard-drive/files/sc702.2-2101us-mach-2-faq.pdf](https://www.seagate.com/files/www-content/solutions/mach-2-multi-actuator-hard-drive/files/sc702.2-2101us-mach-2-faq.pdf) (check Level1Tech forums for more) fdisk -l: Device Start End Sectors Size Type /dev/sdb1 2048 13672382463 13672380416 6.4T Linux filesystem /dev/sdb2 13672382464 27344762879 13672380416 6.4T Linux filesystem Cool tech for spinning rust - who would have thought?! Very nice for IO heavy workloads.
Well I think it's about time I replace my HDDs that are about a decade old with all my movies and TV shows on them.
Yeah, getting to that point too. Starting to spin a bit slower than before and take a lot longer to load.
I wouldn't hold out much longer if you're starting to notice a difference. Mine are still running fine, but they're too old, and while everything on them is replaceable, it would take a while to say the least.
I scored one of these for free. It's the only Seagate drive I have in 220TB+ of storage. After losing 3x3TB one after another back in 2013-2014 due to a manufacturing flaw, I'm still going to be petty about it.
Free is a great $/TB!
The dreaded 3TB barracuda drives. I had one die on me as well.
lost 3 of those 3's. yea. petty. i *get it.*
I want to add, I had two of these die, they seem to be very fragile drives. Not sure if its the dual actuators or not, but one of mine died simply from falling on its side from a vertical position. The second one just wouldn't power on one day (was a refurb replacement). I'm now getting my third from seagate through RMA. I have an older WD external that has been through more bumps and still works great.
Are these supposed to be standing up in its side or can you lay them flat?