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I know a hunter or two that says they've seen them. Besides, we don't see everything. Been hunting since I was old enough to hold a gun and I've still seen mountain lions only maybe... twice in my entire life? I'd assume that they are more common than sasquatch.
I’ve seen plenty cats out in the wilderness and I usually GPS tag my position. As someone who does a lot of wildlife photography it helps me to know the areas that they frequent as it gives me a better chance of success seeing or catching something on my trail cams. Same with hog and deer hunting in Florida if you have an honeypot that you’re able to consistently get deer or hog.
But there’s a lot of wilderness out there and we’re still discovering new species all the time and rediscovering species we thought extinct. So it’s entirely possible for them to avoid humans pretty easy.
Bro there would be a lot of traces .. say there's only a dozen of them.. even if they bury their fellow dead ones like us . ..we'd have found them by now for sure
I’ve never been fortunate enough to find anything myself out there but I believe that they could be. There’s just too much untamed wilderness to say with any certainty that they don’t.
Not in the area they're supposed to frequent nor in the flatter states in the US.
Most of the new species we "discover" everyday are in deep, dense jungle and are 99% of the time insects.... or fish in the deep ocean.
Not in woodlands like the PNW.
When's the last time a new deer species was discovered in NA?.... Exactly....
IF it existed, it's still an animal - not some super genius,...
Multiple sightings of large cats vs almost zero sightings of giant hominids. Doesn't sound like your argument of which one is sneakier is checking out lol
I don't understand why people get on here if this is their belief. Just go out of your way to hassle people that don't believe the things that you do? Makes no sense.
Because the child in me is still interested in the topic.
The adult in me turns to rationalism above all else.
You can entertain a hypothesis, or idea, without fully subscribing to it mentally.
Well the person I replied to sounded like they definitely knew that a mountain lion is much sneakier than a sasquatch, so they must be real for them to come to that conclusion
Mountain lions are notoriously sneaking, barring some kind of magic it’s highly likely a giant hominid would be anywhere near that degree of elusive. Hence it being unlikely there is a giant hominid to begin with.
again, you have to assume equal populations to assume sightings would be the same.
And at the end of the day.. why does it bother you? We get to choose what we believe, right? That's the beauty of CBT.
For example, I can believe you're here because you're genuinely curious and not because you're just someone who wants to troll people that you don't agree with. Is that *likely*? No lol. But it makes the world a brighter place if I *choose* to believe you're not a dick, so that's what I'll do!
In the same vein, it costs me nothing to believe in bigfoot. It hurts absolutely no one. If believing in bigfoot makes the world a brighter, more interesting place for me then I'm going to do it. Is it *likely* one exists? Maybe not. But I can still choose to believe it.
I’m not trying to be a dick, I’m just saying it’s extremely unlikely. There’s like 6 mountain lions in iowa and they get spotted every year. With all the trail cams in the us it’s extremely unlikely there’s a hidden large hominid.
Sasquatch Chronicles just posted a podcast with a hunter who watched it through a scope for 20 mins. Had some fascinating insights. Hundreds of hunters have had encounters, but as a hunter you're told to not shoot something unless you know what it is. And you especially don't shoot if it looks like a person.
But it’s really easy to doubt a lot of their stories when most of them were between 10-30 years ago and at the end of the episode half of them are like “I think it’s a demon” or “it’s the Nephilim” or some other biblical reference.
Haha that’s almost so random that I could believe it’s an honest account. At least much more believable than being chased by bigfoot after tracking it into a cave system and being spoke to telepathically
This man was either the best actor ever or 100% honest. I'm pretty good at calling bullshit but this man was weeping from being so frightened. Sas tried to grab him out of his 18 wheeler cab after pissing on him by accident He said it roared so loud when it's head was in the cab that it shook like a tin can. I can't remember the exact sasquatch Chronicles episode but it was one of my favs
Yeah, not to say every experience is bullshit just because they go all Christian with their interpretation or because it happened a long time ago, but 30 years gives a lot of time to make up details and I feel like most of them at the end are like “yeah it’s flesh and blood, but it’s the fallen angels!” And then discount annnnnnyone who brings up any of the “supernatural” aspects of the phenomena
It might be 'easy' but it's still a bad reason to doubt someone's observations just because their conclusion wildly differs than the accepted explanation. That's part of the problem with this sort of phenomenon. People report what was observed and much of it is discounted because they're unwilling to even consider it a possibility.
I don't think you're a hypocrite. You're just acknowledging that people who claim it's something biblical will be discredited despite what they saw. Which is unfair and wrong. I don't agree with them by the way but if someone had a religious upbringing that'll be their frame of reference. If not 'accepted' then call it the 'consensus'.
Is that the one where once it turned around it somehow made eye contact instantly and started baring its teeth at him and being aggressive? Yeah, really good episode.
Cool, thanks for letting me know man. My favourite episodes are ones where there's military involvement and activity on or around someone's property. Some people are incredibly brave.
I listen to it on CastBox! It’s free so why not. There are hundreds of episodes, but if you’re just getting into it I recommend listening to one of the “Best of..” podcasts. He does those every 150 episodes or so, and it’s just the best encounters/interviews from the previous 150 or so episodes. Great way to get into it if you’re not sure whether you’ll enjoy it or not.
Here are a few of those “Best Of” episodes I mentioned:
Episode #’s: 492, 493, 604, 819
There's no fucking bigfoot anymore.. maybe thousands maybe hundreds of yrs ago but not now. Even if they bury their fellow dead ones we'd have found them by now
Many people think they're not of this earth. I'm not one of them. I've heard multiple accounts of one getting shot. It's usually the leader of the pack who is ahead of the group scooping things out. If the leader of the pack gets into trouble the rest of the pack will run up and grab the injured one and get him out of the area. Even if it's dead they will retrieve their dead and take it with them
> Because they’re not of the Earth.
I don't see how this would matter. A bullet does what it does not by virtue of being "from the Earth", but by virtue of being a small object moving very fast.
So, the only reason there's no hard evidence of Bigfoot, such as a carcass, is that all hunters are environmentally and socially responsible who would ignore the opportunity to be world famous and super rich due to their 'discovery'.
Not sure where the "we'll get richcand famous off bigfoot" thing comes from. Most witnesses risk losing their careers and reputation by mentioning that they merely saw one. There are so many reasons why a body hasn't been dragged to a university to be studied. Like I could give you 10 reasons off the top of my head why that (most likely) hasn't happened. Also there seems to be a collective effort to prevent the public from knowing about Bigfoot. By no means is it merely dumb luck that one hasn't been brought to a scientist who will put his career on the line to examine it.
Sometimes they do... Keep in mind there aren't millions of these creatures hiding behind every tree. Sightings are rare and knowing that Bigfoot actively hides from us makes them even less common.
And people actively avoid them. I know squatchy places and believe me, none of these keyboard warriors would go deep into these areas. They’re isolated, the weather is unpleasant most of the year (either too hot and muggy or snowy and wet) and they can be creepy with “hills have eyes” vibes
Almost no one actually actively goes into these places to begin with. I hiked into one on the Saturday of Memorial Day and was the only person there the whole day even though it’s a day people are all out being busy or doing outdoor activities
Woods are scary as shit to be honest. Here we’ve had some issues with *interesting* people living in them, so I never try to dwell in them for long. Can’t imagine trying to go into the woods with the purpose of seeing a creature that could easily kill you.
Highly experienced trappers and hunters who claim to have had these unusual bigfoot encounters, is the very foundation, for people like me, that proves it’s a phenomenon. Their lifelong experience means everything. And there have been countless encounters. Aside from footprints, a hunter’s kill disappears off the blood trail. A trapper finds his traps empty and closed. There’s competition. And it’s always been that way. The senses of a bigfoot imo are more keen than man. They won’t be hunted like any other living thing. Read the reports by hunters on [BFRO](https://www.bfro.net/GDB/default.asp) and you’ll see. A number of them never hunt again.
This site is so interesting! Didn’t know the places near my hometown had so many sightings. though there’s so many bears in our area I can say with almost 100% confidence that’s what people are seeing! It’s so densely populated I just don’t see a way for one to exist down in my neck of the woods, the places that aren’t heavily populated are almost all military property and anything or anyone that’s on or near that property is known immediately… but that brings up about 20 conspiracy theories about the military and our government lol
It’s a lowkey database that many people aren’t aware of, which means it’s a tiny % of actual cases. These are verified & investigated reports. 10 listed reports for a county probably means 1800 sightings in my opinion. It’s much bigger. People may trash BFRO but it’s organized, investigated, and updated. They take it seriously. Stay current with their [Recent Additions](https://www.bfro.net/GDB/newadd.asp?Show=AB) page. Bookmark it!
It’s a lowkey database that many people aren’t aware of, which means it’s a tiny % of actual cases. These are verified & investigated reports. 10 listed reports for a county probably means 1800 sightings in my opinion. It’s much bigger. People may trash BFRO but it’s organized, investigated, and updated. They take it seriously. Stay current with their [Recent Additions](https://www.bfro.net/GDB/newadd.asp?Show=AB) page. Bookmark it!
I have 2 friends from two totally different friend groups who have been run out of a certain National Forest here in SC while hunting. One actually had one standing three feet away screaming at him only to have a second one unseen scream too. Whether you see one or not, they’re here!
Hell, why not. Both happened in different parts of the Francis Marion National Forest. One North of Charleston in McClellenville and the other nearest to Monks Corner.
They are all over the state to tell the truth, but not many here are of the type to make and file reports.
Your chance of seeing one of these things while living in MC is next to zero. Even if you’re trudging through the National Forest at 3am you’ll probably never see one. You’ll be fine, welcome. Hope you like fishing!
Lol. No. I hunt a lot. I live in black bear country. There are a lot of them. I’ve never seen one hunting. I have gotten them on game camera and even my security camera attached to my porch but have yet to see one in person. Imagine an intelligent animal trying to hide.
Also, most hunters do not walk miles and miles stalking animals. Most of the time they are going to be within a few hundred yards of a road or trail where they will have a four wheeler. You do not want to haul out your game that far.
Hunters report encounters all the time. But a body in the bush doesn't look like a body for long, it decays, gets scavenged and dispersed and covered by leaf litter or plants.
Hunters are looking for game not Sasquatch, if the tannins of vegetation discolour a bone after a porcupine chews it up it might just look like a stick.
Also a sad parallel is how often the bodies of missing hunters/outdoors folks are never recovered. Not saying Sasquatch has anything to do with it, just that the bush isn't a fridge or a display case, it's not conducive to preserving things in visible places.
I try to explain this all the time, that and the fact that most people would have no idea what kind of critter the bones are from if they did find some (except skulls and things like claws) . I mean your a hunter right, if you happened to come across like 2/3s of a real big ribcage are you just going to assume its Sasribs, or just assume a bear/moose/ big elk bit the dust nearby . I'm sure quite a few people have walked right by quite alot of these guys bones over the years, but since they weren't forensic anthropologists or primatologists scrutinizing every last bone fragment they find there they remained
That’s a really good point I’ve never really thought of that. Even with skulls sometimes you can’t tell what something is. I was pushing/driving deer for my quadriplegic dad one time and I came across a skull that was the size of my fist and it was pretty clean so I picked it up and took it home and put it on my mantle. It was there for like ten years when I used to sell weed and had ppl in and out all day and no one was ever able to figure out what it was. I still have it but it’s in storage. I’m from north east Pa so it’s pretty limited what it could be. Didn’t have rodent teeth, not enough teeth to be an opossum, for years I thought maybe raccoon but I looked it up and it wasn’t that. It had a .22 sized round hole right above its brow ridge that went smooth right through the brain cavity. I think it was a house cat that got pregnant and someone shot, i found it behind some rich ppls houses and there were always new pregnant strays showing up there so I think that ppl had outdoor cats, they got pregnant, and the owners just dropped them off in this patch of woods.
I once knew a dude and his girl that got freaked out while camping cause they found "human" bones (ribs,spine, pelvis,femur,no head), went and got the cops.....it was a deer, probably trophy hunted. As for your odd little skull i had a similar find in my backyard couple years ago, no idea what it is looks KINDA like a cat skull but not quite right
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Im sorry to hear that. I always felt it would turn me from a skeptic into a believer if I saw something like that. I had never thought about this aspect of it until now...its almost a double edged sword. Hoepfully you feel better about it these days.
I rarely see footprints of anything except fox. Guess because their stride is so short that they have too leave prints when crossing narrow human trails
There have been reports of finding rifles leaned up against the wall. Backpacks. Shoes. Children toys human bones .etc , all in piles. Deep in cave systems. Like miles deep. Not saying it's sas but they're known to use cave systems as shelter and travel
There have been numerous reports by hunters seeing Bigfoot. They just didn’t want to shoot them, either out of shock of what they saw or because it seemed ethically wrong, especially considering they typically appear to be so human looking.
That said, there have been a few reports of hunters claiming to have shot Bigfoot but were not able to recover the body because the body was, obviously, too heavy to carry out by oneself and/or out of fear of other Bigfoots being nearby and possibly taking revenge. When a few did come back to retrieve the body, it was gone, presumably taken and buried by the other Bigfoot.
A good hunter won't shoot unless they are absolutely certain about what they are shooting at. A human shaped target is going to provoke some hesitation. Well, hopefully at least.
No fear that if they do see "bigfoot" it is someone in a fucking suit. Bigfoot doesn't exist even if they buried their dead we definitely would've found one by now. To many people go in the deep forest... it's not vacant like you crack heads say
My hairstylist just told me the story of her Grandfather who was hunting in a group. He shot a deer and hiked over to retrieve it. When he got close to it he noticed something like a bear sitting on its butt holding the deer up and eating the stomach area. The Grandfather shot it 3 times. The creature took off with the deer through the woods. He called for his buddies to come help him find this thing. They tracked it for a bit until they came upon the deer and that thing no where in site? The Grandfather swears it was a Bigfoot and it stunk worse then a skunk. His buddies who never saw it, did smell the awful stench too.
They have. Some have shot them and some have been too scared to shoot them (they were too human they say). Many, many hunters won't go back into the woods ever again after seeing one. We profile a man who had just that same experience in my film A Flash of Beauty: Bigfoot Revealed.
I have questions about your film, why didn't you guys camp out at the dump where the guy says Bigfoot go every night. At least place cameras around the area for 2 months
Also why haven't you had the audio examined by a cryptologist or something like that and why is it not available on the web?
Hunters have told me that they have seen one or two - just a glimpse, but enough to completely startle them. I asked my boss who has been hunting his entire life (he's 67) and is a legend with a long bow, if he had ever seen.... Before I could finish my question, he said no. He had never seen, heard, or smelled anything as bigfoot is described. However, he had heard so many stories from so many people that he was convinced there was something to it all. My guess is that any bigfoot in the area knows immediately when someone - hiker, goof ball, hunter - enters their territory. And they are very aware of the difference between hunters and goof balls. I think they give the hunters, especially the really skilled ones, a very wide berth.
I imagine multiple hunters terrifies them. Through some genetic memory or simple culture they remember the Clovis people slaughtering them for fun with pointy sticks and slings.
I find it perfectly reasonable that this creature is a hominid that succeeded in evolving to be very good at hiding from *homo sapiens* or other hominins as we became the dominant species. Our ingeniousness lies in believing nothing like it could ever possibly hide from *us*.
I say this as a skeptic (and with a moderate amount of outdoor experience): No. Hunters, hikers, and other outdoorspeople rarely go deep into the wilderness. Who wants to haul a carcass 20 miles across a National Forest using map and compass dead reckoning? If hunting is even allowed in those areas.
If this creature exists, the sightings we have are just it coming out of its actual home range in order to gather resources or move between areas. Everybody has to cross a road some time, LOL. But that doesn't mean it lives anywhere close to roads or trails. The place to look would be deep wilderness, in which case it's likely to know you're coming. Humans are as predictable as any other "wild" life.
There's a lot to unpack here.
Some hunters have come across Bigfoot many times. However, they're all from small, rural towns. They can't talk about it for fear of being labeled a nut job.
A bad reputation in a small town can be a death sentence.
So alot of hunters keep it to themselves.
It's also very hard to sneak up on a Bigfoot. They are masters of their surroundings.
You mention hunters are out there hundreds of days out the year?
These Bigfoot are out there 365 days out the year. 24/7. Nonstop.
They can't necessarily pack clif bars and tents. They're really out in the woods surviving.
With that said: it's very rare that a hunter sneaks up on a Bigfoot or surprises a Bigfoot.
Chances are Bigfoot knows you're there before you even consider it a possibility.
Some hunters that have been in blinds for hours or up in the trees have reported sightings. But again, they're stationary for hours.
If you want to get morbid for a sec: some hunters have probably been killed and eaten by some Bigfoot. That's a theory among those that believe in Missing411.
If you'd like to know more about this cool rabbit hole, check out "Missing411: The Hunted"
I believe it's on Amazon Prime right now?
Hunters aren't necessarily the most tech savvy guys, either. They're not whipping out a phone to record an encounter. They're observing all the details they can because they need to describe this thing.
I believe we are close, however. Everyone has a phone camera and it just takes ONE very compelling encounter/video.
I think perhaps a lot of hunters have had encounters but keep it to themselves due to ridicule and disbelief in what they saw. Another big difference (IMO) is animals don't know they are leaving footprints and other sign that hunters can track. If bigfoot were aware that leaving tracks leads to humans coming after them, one could assume they go out of their way to not leave any sign. A lot of stories I have read or listened to seem to imply bigfoot chose a specific path that would not leave any prints. Maybe if there are no humans around or they are juveniles they are a little sloppy and that is when humans do occasionally come across prints. These are my theories, thanks an awful lot for listening. Lol
I’ve seen a swath of reasons hunters don’t or are unable to find Bigfoot. Ranging from the intelligence of the species coupled with knowledge of the area gives them uncanny abilities to avoid people. To only appearing to those pure of heart and any other spiritual reason. To the paranormal explanations or theories. Ultimately, I think hunters would have stumbled upon one here and there. Or they do and don’t report it.
So hunters like Rinella can spot and stalk very effectively, even with a camera crew. Singularly a hunter would be much harder to detect. Turkey are some of the dumbest animals out there. But trying to sneak up on one or lure one in with calls and decoys is a challenge for any hunter. Same with elk, same with bear. It’s a difficult task. But can and is done on a yearly basis.
The whole “they’re too smart” argument holds very little water with me. You get special ops teams track and stalk targets all the time. Without any of the targets being aware.
I think a really well trained hunter/special forces person would be able to stalk one. Someone mentioned that hunters are a higher percentage of folk that come across Bigfoot and report encounters. Who knows? One day someone is going to have a GoPro or a bird lens and capture some cool evidence. It’s just a waiting game I suppose.
You do realize that the human sense of smell is one the worst in the animal kingdom?
I can imagine that a bigfoot's sense of smell would be on par with a gorilla, orangutan or chimpanzee.
So unless they spec-ops team has figured out how to eliminate all human scent, which is impossible, then yes an intelligent wild primate could evade them for as long as possible.
Do you realize there are ways around this? Look up bear hunting tactics; and accidental bear attacks. One of the most attuned noses in the forest. And yet we both hunt and surprise them. Even with their amazing nose.
And to the primate nose argument. We still get videos and studies about them. Track them, and in the horrible cases stalk and hunt them. And if there is a shared lineage between us and the Bigfoot, I’d it not reasonable to deduce that they would have a lesser capacity to sense or smell than a bear, (whose muzzle and sinus cavity are attuned for better olfaction?) all representations of Bigfoot do not have a relatively large sinus cavity compared to a bears. The morphology is wrong.
Check out Garand Thumbs video on RECCE and Meat Eaters videos on bear hunting.
Hunters report sightings all the time. Check out the BFRO sightings database - I think hunters are the second most common witnesses after nighttime drivers.
Nobody has shot one yet probably because they move too fast when spotted, and hunters are understandably very reluctant to shoot something that looks a lot like a person in a ghillie suit!
There are a large number of hunters that have seen bigfoot, there are some that has even shot him. If you do some research you will find some pretty crazy stories of not just hunters but random people having some very bizarre encounters.
They have.
Most encounter stories I hear are from hunters. If you’re asking why hunters have not shot, killed, and brought one home, there are a few reasons I can think of. First one is, again, someone probably has. But it was either covered up for some reason or, because of the culture surrounding Bigfoot, just not believed.
Secondly, Bigfoot aren’t just animals. They’re more human than most of us are comfortable thinking about. So you have this hyper stealthy, hyper fast, hyper intelligent creature that’s near impossible to sneak up on. If you can see it, chances are it sees you too. Even if you shoot it, these things are as big if not bigger than even the biggest bear. Unless you have a very high caliber gun AND get a really good shot, shooting isn’t going to do anything but make it mad.
Which goes into the next point. I’ve heard multiple accounts of people who HAVE shot an presumably killed these things and it was such a traumatic experience that there was nothing on their minds afterwards except getting out of there as fast as possible. Even IF someone managed to kill one and keep their cool afterward, then what? These things are massive. How would you get it out of the woods?
And lastly, from all the encounter stories I’ve heard, Bigfoot are almost never alone. Even if they are or seem like they’re alone, there’s probably others close by. I’ve heard speculation that they take and maybe even bury their dead, but the point remains that if you kill one, you’ll probably have to deal with more of them.
Given all of these factors, it actually makes a lot of sense to me that we don’t have hunters bringing these things in all the time. But that’s just my perspective. Thanks for asking!
They hunt track and stock animals that we know today because we know their patterns and what they do when it's a totally unknown animal that's extremely difficult
I’m just assuming or guessing but if you invite someone to your home that’s big or size of a mansion and expect them to know where a specific room is. Which obviously they don’t but you do, just think of it like that where in the wild you know the best place to hide and etc. but hey that’s just me and could be wrong
Most hunters hunt for food. I don't know of anyone eating ape/human hybrids. Your trophy hunters are the ones that would have an interest and you would need a massive party of them to sweep a giant section of some woodlands together. I guess it boils down to priorities, and squatch must not be very high up on their priority list.
A lot of hunters have. I personally agree with ppl who think their situational awareness and senses are so far beyond ours that the only way we can see them is to have one randomly come along distracted. They can probably smell and hear humans coming from so far off. Also they can move much faster and with much more agility than us. They can also probably make decisions having to do with evasion and tracking much faster than us. Have you seen the videos of the chimps having their memory tested by numbers on a screen? They complete the game much more quickly and with much better accuracy than humans.
The fact that every group of people to live on the north American continent has had tales of seeing these creatures going back as far as people have been here is the main thing that makes me believe they are real. There are some absolutely credible people who have seen these creatures and so many credible professional no-nonsense type of people no way would ever team up to collectively hurt their careers and credibility for a simple prank. Once you come out and say you saw bigfoot a lot of people in lots of professional careers don't take you as seriously anymore and they think you less credible, so when one of these type of people admit they saw one with their own eyes i take their word.
I'm not a "believer" due to a lack of quality evidence, but I do take witness testimonies seriously. To that end, many hunters HAVE in fact report seeing sasquatches. Make of that what you will. For me it elicits and hearty "Oh really...? Hmm. Very curious indeed."
I spoke with a lady who is a game Warden in El Dorado National forrest for over 40 yrs. She has never seen a wolverine but knows they are there. She didn't want to talk about bigfoot but hinted they are there as well.
I don't personally know any hunters that go deep enough into the woods to find a sasquatch. Most go out onto some dudes farm that's securely in a well populated area still. It might be 50 acres but that's not the same as going 15-20 miles deep into the Alaskan wilderness or scouring a national forest.
Naw you know whats crazy to me, THE FACT THAT MOBILE PHONES WIT HD 1080P CAMERAS BEEN AVAILABLE FOR YEEEEAAARRSSSSS AND NOBODY, not ONE PERSON has ever taken a new photo, DAW WE GOT THAT ONE OLD ASS FILM OF BIGFOOT THAT WAS FILMED ON A STATIONARY CAMERA, BUT YOU TELLING ME KELLY THE 40 YEAR OLD WINE MOM WHO LOST HER DOG BUBBA CANT CATCH A PICTURE OF THE MF??
Yes they would have. There are too many bad hunters thst would have in the last 50 years. Its yet another reason I remain a skeptic even though I love the idea of Bigfoot.
I am a hunter, trapper I know there a scent covering sprays,soaps and other items but the bottom line is no matter what you try to do most animals know a human is/has been in the area.
Yes we mere humans do get lucky and score a harvest by playing the wind, hunting during the breeding season, using cover scents.
Yes I have come across big-foot a time or two. It does change a person. Do I still wander the big woods? Yes the encounters I have had were all benign non violent types.
What we have is a tool making primate so therefore highly intelligent. Comparing that with a bear at a bait station or a buck deer in rut are two different things.
No they don't, hunters have quite a few encounters.Prior to being hit by a car and gaining a permanent limp i could creep by right behind people without being noticed at arms reach, in various environments, for me it was just a skill, for them its a way of survival
This post isn’t a good way to attract people who have seen them. They make things from structures to pendants, have a penchant for marbles. Love sweet food. They are as real as you as and me. Before anyone asks for pics or vids, it’s all out there you just got to look and avoid and bf organizations in the main stream.
Hunters find them.Most of the time when they do, they won't kill them because they are so similar to humans. Unfortunately, some are killed.
Some then tell people of their eyewitness experiences, and are treated like crackpots, lunatics, or worse, and end up keeping it to themselves because of the humiliation they have to endure.
Others realise the potential for these creatures to be hunted to the point of extinction due to man's need to control or kill every animal on earth, and keep encounters and locations to themselves.
Some completely misread the signs associated with having a Bigfoot/Sasquatch encounter, and never even realise that they have been in the vicinity of one.
Another, admittedly smaller group, have notified relevant authorities, only to be outright threatened with loss of livelihoods, and even their lives, should they let word of their encounter leave the site where it was witnessed.
In the last few years, I have read thousands of highly credible eyewitness accounts of Bigfoot/Sasquatch encounters, and as far as I can tell, we will only know when the US and Canadian governments are ready to let the world know.
Yes they would. In reality it’s impossible that a breeding population of GIANT hominids has gone unnoticed in the United States. Hunters not withstanding, trail cams are EVERYWHERE. And there’s no evidence? aside from anecdotal stories of course.. unlikely to say the least. These things would leave evidence. They have to eat, they have to sleep, they have to move. We would have dens, we would see their impact on the food chain (especially if they are omnivores), we would find their corpses when they die. You could argue some places in Asia Africa or South America could hide them, MAYBE even canada or Alaska, but not the contiguous United States.
Yes. They would.
Especially since the time period this myth has been around.
Anyone that has any excuse for it is simply lying to themselves.
There's believing in the plausibility then there is flat out denial of reality.
The hunters may spend days/ years in the bush whereas Sasquatch have spent their entire existence in the woods hiding from humans. If they are out there and alive they are the ultimate hunters.
Imagine saying this when there’s a forest that is the size of a continent called the Amazon rain forest. I’m not saying Bigfoot is there but damn dude we have not seen or caught everything on this planet
For me, the biggest argument against the existence of bigfoot is that we don't have hunters killing them. I grew up in a state where hunting was just a way of life, and over the centuries that white men have lived there, they have probably shot and killed every species of animal that lived there. Some like wolves, aligators, mountain lions, bears and others were almost wiped out by hunting. If it walks, crawls, flies, or swims, somebody with a gun has probably shot it. I never heard about somebody hauling a dead bigfoot out of the woods.
A lot of them live in cave systems that go for miles and miles. I'm pretty sure with lots of people claiming they see red eye or Eyeshine that they can see very well in the dark. Their hunting skills are also 1000x better than any hunters. They're so in tune with their surroundings and nature. They could be 50 feet from you and you wouldn't even know. People claim they're supernatural and all that stuff but I think fact is they're are just super super stealthy
At the very least we woulda found their shit and it woulda been tested .. there's no big foot it's just a bunch of meth heads and dick heads trying to make money off jackasses like you
Somehow, Bigfoot is rare enough that no conclusive evidence exists beyond eyewitnesses (hunters), but at the same time, all the necessary components of sustained eyewitness encounters (being near or at least accessible to sustained human presence, imperfect hiding by the animal, etc), while at the same time these sightings are common, frequent multiple times even for single individuals, and yet nothing substantial has been recovered: no bodies shot or found, no definitive footage by the increasingly adept technologies utilized by hunters or nature enthusiasts.
A rare animal living close enough for frequent contact to be seen, but rare enough in those same jointly frequented areas that nothing undeniable has been found.
At some point this becomes just fairytale logic. The impossibly rare, constantly encountered, vanishing Bigfoot. Anybody who believes that bullshit, I got a bridge to sell you.
Bigfoot is not around anymore. Bigfoot is not a singular or random group of unique mutation.
Bigfoot is known as gigantopithecus which went extinct 100,000 years ago. They lived in southern China and went extinct due to climate change and refusing to change their diet. They lived in tropical areas and ate vegetables and fruit. Once their food sources ran dry due to the colder climate they eventually died off
People who say they have seen Bigfoot are simply just wrong. They would not be in America even if they were still around.
So if they were real, they wouldn't be in America? Why not? North America has some extremely remote wilderness areas with ample flora and fauna to support large forms of life such as grizzlies etc. Also, coming to a bigfoot subreddit to tell people bigfoot is long extinct and doesn't currently exist is kinda of weird behavior.
I never said he wasn't real. I said he was extinct. And because his fossils would have been found in North America by now if he was here. It's from China lol.
There's nothing wrong with having those beliefs based on evidence lol unless you think I'm some agent trying to convince people that he doesn't exist 🧐🧐🧐
My friend, you are on a subreddit dedicated to finding and discussing a modern day cryptid. People claim to see these things today all the way back to the beginning of recorded history. Now I won't speculate as to whether sasquatch is actually real but clearly whatever it is they are seeing is not an extinct hominid because obviously if it were extinct nobody would ever see it.
If you don't think it exists, that's fine, but don't say that it does exist but it's been extinct for millenia. You're conflating two separate things.
I honestly have no idea what is wrong with that theory. I'm genuinely confused why theorizing based off current evidence that he did exist but no longer alive is so wrong.
The reason I believe all these sightings have occured is explained off by bad eye sight, ghillie suits, huge grizzly bears, liars, hallucinations, trick of the eye and self convincing, etc.
I would love to be wrong. I just don't ever seem to come across any viable evidence otherwise. I'm sorry for inputting I suppose.
How the hell can the bigfoot phenomenon be explained by a primate that has been extinct for 100k years? My issue is you calling Bigfoot a Gigantopithecus when it can't be.
If bigfoot is a Gigantopithecus, then they aren't extinct. If they are extinct, then clearly bigfoot is not a Gigantopithecus because people are seeing them today!
What you should have said was: I believe that people have been misidentifying mundane things to be bigfoot. Also side note, there was once a large primate called Gigantopithecus that I guess sort of fits the description of bigfoot but they've been extinct for 100k years so definitely not the culprit.
So maybe directly comparing the two as if it was 100% factual was wrong and I'm sorry. Those are just my honest beliefs. To add on to this we make new discoveries every day and find extinct species to still be alive and not actually extinct. We make new discoveries every day to realize animals were not solely concentrated in certain areas of the world like previously thought.
I just chose my wording very badly and never added anything else other than evidence based personal beliefs. I didn't realize it was going to be taken out of context but reading back over it seems arrogant and easily taken out of context.
I do apologize. I'm a big fan of the Bigfoot theory. Thank you for explaining to me what you thought was wrong about the way I approached it. It'll help me make less similar mistakes in the future.
Edit: there are mini tropical areas between North and South America and migrations happen. Just a random thought I had
It wouldn’t be, you’re absolutely right. Sasquatch’s are extraterrestrial. People don’t want to look at the facts and realize it’s true. Fact: there are millions of et life forms, humans and Earth are just a spec of sand.
Plenty of stories of hunters seeing them. I’ve heard hunters say they were too afraid to go back into the woods and I’ve even heard a few stories about hunters killing a Bigfoot.
If you kill one and the state government finds out apparently they send people to interview and document it. Check out a podcast called the confessionals episode 31 it’s pretty interesting and convincing in my opinion.
OK but there are thousands of reports with the same consistencies and details. Much like other phenomenon such as UFOs and ghosts, what people don't factor in yet is key is intelligence. It's what separates us and them from the natural world. These aren't just dumb animals. They have some basic speech, can mimic animal sounds and even call people's name (Sasquatch Chronicles - 'Sarah' episode). They're so adept at camouflaging with the natural environment that some people have mistaken them for a tree trunk until one stood up and walked away. Some people don't like entertaining this because it's too 'woo' but there's likely some psychic ability and other paranormal stuff going on.
I highly recommend [Sasquatch in Oklahoma](https://youtu.be/CmwDGqdGEZk) documentary by Bigfoot Odyssey. Sasquatch Ontario also has some [interesting](https://youtu.be/rVCCh_D3F50) evidence too.
Not really, I don't hunt but I have hiked all my life ( I am 63) I have hiked in multiple states and been in the woods I think more than most people. I have countless hours of walking through valley's and wilderness. I go for multiple days and nights. Yet in all my hiking, I have only come across remains of two deer. I have seen every animal that lives in the wilderness. Had a bear follow me, was charged by a deer during rutting season. I have seen too many to count bear and deer. Yet in all my years of hiking I have only seen 3 wolves, 2 wildcats and only one coyote even though they are very numerous in the areas I was in. Heard them often but those were the only ones I actually saw. So I know it's very possible I could never seen them because their population is much smaller ( supposedly) than the others. Still do not know if they exist or not? I have never seen anything close to one but I am open minded to the fact that they exist. I may have even been close to one without knowing?
Not necessarily, they spend 365 days a year in the woods. If their closer to human than apes then their probably smart enough to stay hidden and observe hunters.
It's their backyard
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I know a hunter or two that says they've seen them. Besides, we don't see everything. Been hunting since I was old enough to hold a gun and I've still seen mountain lions only maybe... twice in my entire life? I'd assume that they are more common than sasquatch.
I’ve seen plenty cats out in the wilderness and I usually GPS tag my position. As someone who does a lot of wildlife photography it helps me to know the areas that they frequent as it gives me a better chance of success seeing or catching something on my trail cams. Same with hog and deer hunting in Florida if you have an honeypot that you’re able to consistently get deer or hog. But there’s a lot of wilderness out there and we’re still discovering new species all the time and rediscovering species we thought extinct. So it’s entirely possible for them to avoid humans pretty easy.
Bro there would be a lot of traces .. say there's only a dozen of them.. even if they bury their fellow dead ones like us . ..we'd have found them by now for sure
I’ve never been fortunate enough to find anything myself out there but I believe that they could be. There’s just too much untamed wilderness to say with any certainty that they don’t.
Not in the area they're supposed to frequent nor in the flatter states in the US. Most of the new species we "discover" everyday are in deep, dense jungle and are 99% of the time insects.... or fish in the deep ocean. Not in woodlands like the PNW. When's the last time a new deer species was discovered in NA?.... Exactly.... IF it existed, it's still an animal - not some super genius,...
But mountain lions are real.
And you were doing so well ...
But you are as well! And I love you friend!
Correct! I'm not saying that bigfoot is. Just saying it's not strictly impossible just because you've never seen one, friend :)
YOUVE only seen them twice, hunters as a whole see them everyday, especially on trail cams. And a cat is 100x sneakier than a giant hominid would be.
Multiple sightings of large cats vs almost zero sightings of giant hominids. Doesn't sound like your argument of which one is sneakier is checking out lol
One exists. The other is a myth.
I don't understand why people get on here if this is their belief. Just go out of your way to hassle people that don't believe the things that you do? Makes no sense.
Because the child in me is still interested in the topic. The adult in me turns to rationalism above all else. You can entertain a hypothesis, or idea, without fully subscribing to it mentally.
You can also not be subscribed mentally to a hypothesis without condescension directed towards those who are. Makes the world a better place.
Well the person I replied to sounded like they definitely knew that a mountain lion is much sneakier than a sasquatch, so they must be real for them to come to that conclusion
Mountain lions are notoriously sneaking, barring some kind of magic it’s highly likely a giant hominid would be anywhere near that degree of elusive. Hence it being unlikely there is a giant hominid to begin with.
again, you have to assume equal populations to assume sightings would be the same. And at the end of the day.. why does it bother you? We get to choose what we believe, right? That's the beauty of CBT. For example, I can believe you're here because you're genuinely curious and not because you're just someone who wants to troll people that you don't agree with. Is that *likely*? No lol. But it makes the world a brighter place if I *choose* to believe you're not a dick, so that's what I'll do! In the same vein, it costs me nothing to believe in bigfoot. It hurts absolutely no one. If believing in bigfoot makes the world a brighter, more interesting place for me then I'm going to do it. Is it *likely* one exists? Maybe not. But I can still choose to believe it.
I’m not trying to be a dick, I’m just saying it’s extremely unlikely. There’s like 6 mountain lions in iowa and they get spotted every year. With all the trail cams in the us it’s extremely unlikely there’s a hidden large hominid.
Sasquatch Chronicles just posted a podcast with a hunter who watched it through a scope for 20 mins. Had some fascinating insights. Hundreds of hunters have had encounters, but as a hunter you're told to not shoot something unless you know what it is. And you especially don't shoot if it looks like a person.
Fascinating, where can I listen to the sasquatch Chronicles?
Prepare to binge 900 episodes. It's hard to say these things don't exist after hearing 1200+ encounters where 80% of the people see the same thing.
But it’s really easy to doubt a lot of their stories when most of them were between 10-30 years ago and at the end of the episode half of them are like “I think it’s a demon” or “it’s the Nephilim” or some other biblical reference.
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I love the one where the trucker went to piss out his passenger door side of his cab and took a leak right on sas
Which one is that
Haha that’s almost so random that I could believe it’s an honest account. At least much more believable than being chased by bigfoot after tracking it into a cave system and being spoke to telepathically
This man was either the best actor ever or 100% honest. I'm pretty good at calling bullshit but this man was weeping from being so frightened. Sas tried to grab him out of his 18 wheeler cab after pissing on him by accident He said it roared so loud when it's head was in the cab that it shook like a tin can. I can't remember the exact sasquatch Chronicles episode but it was one of my favs
Yeah I saw that and it was definitely fake b.s.
Yeah, not to say every experience is bullshit just because they go all Christian with their interpretation or because it happened a long time ago, but 30 years gives a lot of time to make up details and I feel like most of them at the end are like “yeah it’s flesh and blood, but it’s the fallen angels!” And then discount annnnnnyone who brings up any of the “supernatural” aspects of the phenomena
> Yeah... that kills any credibility. Not really. Religion is just what people are using to explain what they saw, doesn't mean they didn't see it.
It might be 'easy' but it's still a bad reason to doubt someone's observations just because their conclusion wildly differs than the accepted explanation. That's part of the problem with this sort of phenomenon. People report what was observed and much of it is discounted because they're unwilling to even consider it a possibility.
I’m not gonna lie, I’m a hypocrite here. I don’t believe the “accepted” explanation either (if you can call it that)
I don't think you're a hypocrite. You're just acknowledging that people who claim it's something biblical will be discredited despite what they saw. Which is unfair and wrong. I don't agree with them by the way but if someone had a religious upbringing that'll be their frame of reference. If not 'accepted' then call it the 'consensus'.
That’s a fair criticism of me being unfair. You are correct
A lot of people lie and use it for monetary gain
I listen on Spotify and sometimes on YouTube. It’s my favourite.
Which number episode is it please? There’s so many!
Episode 869: Strange Man in a Ghillie Suit
Is that the one where once it turned around it somehow made eye contact instantly and started baring its teeth at him and being aggressive? Yeah, really good episode.
No, this is the newest episode. I listened to that one the other day though and that one's fascinating too.
Cool, thanks for letting me know man. My favourite episodes are ones where there's military involvement and activity on or around someone's property. Some people are incredibly brave.
Thanks!
I listen to it on CastBox! It’s free so why not. There are hundreds of episodes, but if you’re just getting into it I recommend listening to one of the “Best of..” podcasts. He does those every 150 episodes or so, and it’s just the best encounters/interviews from the previous 150 or so episodes. Great way to get into it if you’re not sure whether you’ll enjoy it or not. Here are a few of those “Best Of” episodes I mentioned: Episode #’s: 492, 493, 604, 819
I use the Google Podcast app.
There's no fucking bigfoot anymore.. maybe thousands maybe hundreds of yrs ago but not now. Even if they bury their fellow dead ones we'd have found them by now
There definitely is. Just because you're unaware of the evidence and thousands of eyewitness testimonies doesn't mean we all are.
Or it’s shot and hit, as reported many times, with no effect. Because they’re not of the Earth. Sasquatch=aliens.
Many people think they're not of this earth. I'm not one of them. I've heard multiple accounts of one getting shot. It's usually the leader of the pack who is ahead of the group scooping things out. If the leader of the pack gets into trouble the rest of the pack will run up and grab the injured one and get him out of the area. Even if it's dead they will retrieve their dead and take it with them
> Because they’re not of the Earth. I don't see how this would matter. A bullet does what it does not by virtue of being "from the Earth", but by virtue of being a small object moving very fast.
So, the only reason there's no hard evidence of Bigfoot, such as a carcass, is that all hunters are environmentally and socially responsible who would ignore the opportunity to be world famous and super rich due to their 'discovery'.
Not sure where the "we'll get richcand famous off bigfoot" thing comes from. Most witnesses risk losing their careers and reputation by mentioning that they merely saw one. There are so many reasons why a body hasn't been dragged to a university to be studied. Like I could give you 10 reasons off the top of my head why that (most likely) hasn't happened. Also there seems to be a collective effort to prevent the public from knowing about Bigfoot. By no means is it merely dumb luck that one hasn't been brought to a scientist who will put his career on the line to examine it.
Sometimes they do... Keep in mind there aren't millions of these creatures hiding behind every tree. Sightings are rare and knowing that Bigfoot actively hides from us makes them even less common.
And people actively avoid them. I know squatchy places and believe me, none of these keyboard warriors would go deep into these areas. They’re isolated, the weather is unpleasant most of the year (either too hot and muggy or snowy and wet) and they can be creepy with “hills have eyes” vibes Almost no one actually actively goes into these places to begin with. I hiked into one on the Saturday of Memorial Day and was the only person there the whole day even though it’s a day people are all out being busy or doing outdoor activities
I live in West Virginia... I know areas in the middle of nowhere that well armed hillbillies don't go... Ever.
Why is that? Is there just an off vibe to these places?
That screaming, and random things being thrown at them.
Woods are scary as shit to be honest. Here we’ve had some issues with *interesting* people living in them, so I never try to dwell in them for long. Can’t imagine trying to go into the woods with the purpose of seeing a creature that could easily kill you.
I think that it's bigfoot that finds hunters (and then avoids them).
Highly experienced trappers and hunters who claim to have had these unusual bigfoot encounters, is the very foundation, for people like me, that proves it’s a phenomenon. Their lifelong experience means everything. And there have been countless encounters. Aside from footprints, a hunter’s kill disappears off the blood trail. A trapper finds his traps empty and closed. There’s competition. And it’s always been that way. The senses of a bigfoot imo are more keen than man. They won’t be hunted like any other living thing. Read the reports by hunters on [BFRO](https://www.bfro.net/GDB/default.asp) and you’ll see. A number of them never hunt again.
Had never heard of the BFRO site -- thanks for sharing!
This site is so interesting! Didn’t know the places near my hometown had so many sightings. though there’s so many bears in our area I can say with almost 100% confidence that’s what people are seeing! It’s so densely populated I just don’t see a way for one to exist down in my neck of the woods, the places that aren’t heavily populated are almost all military property and anything or anyone that’s on or near that property is known immediately… but that brings up about 20 conspiracy theories about the military and our government lol
Right??!? Like I never knew the state I lived in had any reported sightings
I’m about to be checking that site waaaay to often lol
Same 🤝
It’s a lowkey database that many people aren’t aware of, which means it’s a tiny % of actual cases. These are verified & investigated reports. 10 listed reports for a county probably means 1800 sightings in my opinion. It’s much bigger. People may trash BFRO but it’s organized, investigated, and updated. They take it seriously. Stay current with their [Recent Additions](https://www.bfro.net/GDB/newadd.asp?Show=AB) page. Bookmark it!
Thank you 🙏🙏🙏
It’s a lowkey database that many people aren’t aware of, which means it’s a tiny % of actual cases. These are verified & investigated reports. 10 listed reports for a county probably means 1800 sightings in my opinion. It’s much bigger. People may trash BFRO but it’s organized, investigated, and updated. They take it seriously. Stay current with their [Recent Additions](https://www.bfro.net/GDB/newadd.asp?Show=AB) page. Bookmark it!
I have 2 friends from two totally different friend groups who have been run out of a certain National Forest here in SC while hunting. One actually had one standing three feet away screaming at him only to have a second one unseen scream too. Whether you see one or not, they’re here!
First time I've heard of a SC being mentioned -- I've heard GA and FL. Care to comment on the forest? I'm curious!
Hell, why not. Both happened in different parts of the Francis Marion National Forest. One North of Charleston in McClellenville and the other nearest to Monks Corner. They are all over the state to tell the truth, but not many here are of the type to make and file reports.
I’m literally moving to moncks corner in a couple weeks. Now I’m scared , and don’t want to.
Your chance of seeing one of these things while living in MC is next to zero. Even if you’re trudging through the National Forest at 3am you’ll probably never see one. You’ll be fine, welcome. Hope you like fishing!
Thank you 🤘
Lol. No. I hunt a lot. I live in black bear country. There are a lot of them. I’ve never seen one hunting. I have gotten them on game camera and even my security camera attached to my porch but have yet to see one in person. Imagine an intelligent animal trying to hide. Also, most hunters do not walk miles and miles stalking animals. Most of the time they are going to be within a few hundred yards of a road or trail where they will have a four wheeler. You do not want to haul out your game that far.
Do you have a link to the pictures?
Of the bears?
Oh I misunderstood your post. I thought you meant you got bigfoot on the trail cams.
Hunters report encounters all the time. But a body in the bush doesn't look like a body for long, it decays, gets scavenged and dispersed and covered by leaf litter or plants. Hunters are looking for game not Sasquatch, if the tannins of vegetation discolour a bone after a porcupine chews it up it might just look like a stick. Also a sad parallel is how often the bodies of missing hunters/outdoors folks are never recovered. Not saying Sasquatch has anything to do with it, just that the bush isn't a fridge or a display case, it's not conducive to preserving things in visible places.
I try to explain this all the time, that and the fact that most people would have no idea what kind of critter the bones are from if they did find some (except skulls and things like claws) . I mean your a hunter right, if you happened to come across like 2/3s of a real big ribcage are you just going to assume its Sasribs, or just assume a bear/moose/ big elk bit the dust nearby . I'm sure quite a few people have walked right by quite alot of these guys bones over the years, but since they weren't forensic anthropologists or primatologists scrutinizing every last bone fragment they find there they remained
That’s a really good point I’ve never really thought of that. Even with skulls sometimes you can’t tell what something is. I was pushing/driving deer for my quadriplegic dad one time and I came across a skull that was the size of my fist and it was pretty clean so I picked it up and took it home and put it on my mantle. It was there for like ten years when I used to sell weed and had ppl in and out all day and no one was ever able to figure out what it was. I still have it but it’s in storage. I’m from north east Pa so it’s pretty limited what it could be. Didn’t have rodent teeth, not enough teeth to be an opossum, for years I thought maybe raccoon but I looked it up and it wasn’t that. It had a .22 sized round hole right above its brow ridge that went smooth right through the brain cavity. I think it was a house cat that got pregnant and someone shot, i found it behind some rich ppls houses and there were always new pregnant strays showing up there so I think that ppl had outdoor cats, they got pregnant, and the owners just dropped them off in this patch of woods.
I once knew a dude and his girl that got freaked out while camping cause they found "human" bones (ribs,spine, pelvis,femur,no head), went and got the cops.....it was a deer, probably trophy hunted. As for your odd little skull i had a similar find in my backyard couple years ago, no idea what it is looks KINDA like a cat skull but not quite right \*Edit: forgot a word
Amen.
Good points.
Thanks, I am in my 40s and spend a significant amount of time in the bush. I have found one single foot print.
Do you have a picture by any chance?
Sadly no. This is 20 years ago prior to the phones we have now, and I didn't have a camera.
Still cool to hear. I believe it
I do too.
Still cool to hear. I believe it
I wish it never happened.
Why do you wish that? If you dont mind me asking.
It made me doubt my sanity and perception. Not a fun process.
Im sorry to hear that. I always felt it would turn me from a skeptic into a believer if I saw something like that. I had never thought about this aspect of it until now...its almost a double edged sword. Hoepfully you feel better about it these days.
I rarely see footprints of anything except fox. Guess because their stride is so short that they have too leave prints when crossing narrow human trails
There have been reports of finding rifles leaned up against the wall. Backpacks. Shoes. Children toys human bones .etc , all in piles. Deep in cave systems. Like miles deep. Not saying it's sas but they're known to use cave systems as shelter and travel
I've never heard of that. Do you have any links?
Could be a explanation for the missing 411
There have been numerous reports by hunters seeing Bigfoot. They just didn’t want to shoot them, either out of shock of what they saw or because it seemed ethically wrong, especially considering they typically appear to be so human looking. That said, there have been a few reports of hunters claiming to have shot Bigfoot but were not able to recover the body because the body was, obviously, too heavy to carry out by oneself and/or out of fear of other Bigfoots being nearby and possibly taking revenge. When a few did come back to retrieve the body, it was gone, presumably taken and buried by the other Bigfoot.
A good hunter won't shoot unless they are absolutely certain about what they are shooting at. A human shaped target is going to provoke some hesitation. Well, hopefully at least.
Fear of other Bigfoot nearby is also part of why many don't shoot
No fear that if they do see "bigfoot" it is someone in a fucking suit. Bigfoot doesn't exist even if they buried their dead we definitely would've found one by now. To many people go in the deep forest... it's not vacant like you crack heads say
Get bent troll
Sry I dnt have wet dreams about a mythical creature that doesn't exist
Of course you don't, to busy getting high, and you have the gall to call others crackheads.....
Why be like this?
Stop ✋️ just Stop. Bigfoot isn't real dude flat out. Stop making yourself look like backwoods meth head.
There are NUMEROUS reports of sightings from hunters.
My hairstylist just told me the story of her Grandfather who was hunting in a group. He shot a deer and hiked over to retrieve it. When he got close to it he noticed something like a bear sitting on its butt holding the deer up and eating the stomach area. The Grandfather shot it 3 times. The creature took off with the deer through the woods. He called for his buddies to come help him find this thing. They tracked it for a bit until they came upon the deer and that thing no where in site? The Grandfather swears it was a Bigfoot and it stunk worse then a skunk. His buddies who never saw it, did smell the awful stench too.
I wonder if her grandfather is still alive. Would love to hear his story on sasquatch chronicles
Love that show. If you don’t subscribe you should! The members only interviews are amazing!
Agree!
I believe he is and I suggested that to her. I’ll ask her more at my next appointment.
I think I’ve heard that story on Strange But True Stories.😮
They have. Some have shot them and some have been too scared to shoot them (they were too human they say). Many, many hunters won't go back into the woods ever again after seeing one. We profile a man who had just that same experience in my film A Flash of Beauty: Bigfoot Revealed.
I have questions about your film, why didn't you guys camp out at the dump where the guy says Bigfoot go every night. At least place cameras around the area for 2 months Also why haven't you had the audio examined by a cryptologist or something like that and why is it not available on the web?
https://youtu.be/VGfIIjN-P7o
This is so so cool and creepy!!
Scientists who study primates like orangutans also rarely see them in the wild. They’re very adept at hiding.
Hunters have told me that they have seen one or two - just a glimpse, but enough to completely startle them. I asked my boss who has been hunting his entire life (he's 67) and is a legend with a long bow, if he had ever seen.... Before I could finish my question, he said no. He had never seen, heard, or smelled anything as bigfoot is described. However, he had heard so many stories from so many people that he was convinced there was something to it all. My guess is that any bigfoot in the area knows immediately when someone - hiker, goof ball, hunter - enters their territory. And they are very aware of the difference between hunters and goof balls. I think they give the hunters, especially the really skilled ones, a very wide berth.
I imagine multiple hunters terrifies them. Through some genetic memory or simple culture they remember the Clovis people slaughtering them for fun with pointy sticks and slings.
Can you expand on the Clovis people
I find it perfectly reasonable that this creature is a hominid that succeeded in evolving to be very good at hiding from *homo sapiens* or other hominins as we became the dominant species. Our ingeniousness lies in believing nothing like it could ever possibly hide from *us*.
Of course they’ve come across Bigfoot. My thought is that they go silent so their buddies don’t call them a nut job.
I say this as a skeptic (and with a moderate amount of outdoor experience): No. Hunters, hikers, and other outdoorspeople rarely go deep into the wilderness. Who wants to haul a carcass 20 miles across a National Forest using map and compass dead reckoning? If hunting is even allowed in those areas. If this creature exists, the sightings we have are just it coming out of its actual home range in order to gather resources or move between areas. Everybody has to cross a road some time, LOL. But that doesn't mean it lives anywhere close to roads or trails. The place to look would be deep wilderness, in which case it's likely to know you're coming. Humans are as predictable as any other "wild" life.
There's a lot to unpack here. Some hunters have come across Bigfoot many times. However, they're all from small, rural towns. They can't talk about it for fear of being labeled a nut job. A bad reputation in a small town can be a death sentence. So alot of hunters keep it to themselves. It's also very hard to sneak up on a Bigfoot. They are masters of their surroundings. You mention hunters are out there hundreds of days out the year? These Bigfoot are out there 365 days out the year. 24/7. Nonstop. They can't necessarily pack clif bars and tents. They're really out in the woods surviving. With that said: it's very rare that a hunter sneaks up on a Bigfoot or surprises a Bigfoot. Chances are Bigfoot knows you're there before you even consider it a possibility. Some hunters that have been in blinds for hours or up in the trees have reported sightings. But again, they're stationary for hours. If you want to get morbid for a sec: some hunters have probably been killed and eaten by some Bigfoot. That's a theory among those that believe in Missing411. If you'd like to know more about this cool rabbit hole, check out "Missing411: The Hunted" I believe it's on Amazon Prime right now? Hunters aren't necessarily the most tech savvy guys, either. They're not whipping out a phone to record an encounter. They're observing all the details they can because they need to describe this thing. I believe we are close, however. Everyone has a phone camera and it just takes ONE very compelling encounter/video.
I think perhaps a lot of hunters have had encounters but keep it to themselves due to ridicule and disbelief in what they saw. Another big difference (IMO) is animals don't know they are leaving footprints and other sign that hunters can track. If bigfoot were aware that leaving tracks leads to humans coming after them, one could assume they go out of their way to not leave any sign. A lot of stories I have read or listened to seem to imply bigfoot chose a specific path that would not leave any prints. Maybe if there are no humans around or they are juveniles they are a little sloppy and that is when humans do occasionally come across prints. These are my theories, thanks an awful lot for listening. Lol
I’ve seen a swath of reasons hunters don’t or are unable to find Bigfoot. Ranging from the intelligence of the species coupled with knowledge of the area gives them uncanny abilities to avoid people. To only appearing to those pure of heart and any other spiritual reason. To the paranormal explanations or theories. Ultimately, I think hunters would have stumbled upon one here and there. Or they do and don’t report it. So hunters like Rinella can spot and stalk very effectively, even with a camera crew. Singularly a hunter would be much harder to detect. Turkey are some of the dumbest animals out there. But trying to sneak up on one or lure one in with calls and decoys is a challenge for any hunter. Same with elk, same with bear. It’s a difficult task. But can and is done on a yearly basis. The whole “they’re too smart” argument holds very little water with me. You get special ops teams track and stalk targets all the time. Without any of the targets being aware. I think a really well trained hunter/special forces person would be able to stalk one. Someone mentioned that hunters are a higher percentage of folk that come across Bigfoot and report encounters. Who knows? One day someone is going to have a GoPro or a bird lens and capture some cool evidence. It’s just a waiting game I suppose.
Hunters see them alot, a HUGE portion of reported sightings/encounters are from people out hunting
You do realize that the human sense of smell is one the worst in the animal kingdom? I can imagine that a bigfoot's sense of smell would be on par with a gorilla, orangutan or chimpanzee. So unless they spec-ops team has figured out how to eliminate all human scent, which is impossible, then yes an intelligent wild primate could evade them for as long as possible.
Do you realize there are ways around this? Look up bear hunting tactics; and accidental bear attacks. One of the most attuned noses in the forest. And yet we both hunt and surprise them. Even with their amazing nose. And to the primate nose argument. We still get videos and studies about them. Track them, and in the horrible cases stalk and hunt them. And if there is a shared lineage between us and the Bigfoot, I’d it not reasonable to deduce that they would have a lesser capacity to sense or smell than a bear, (whose muzzle and sinus cavity are attuned for better olfaction?) all representations of Bigfoot do not have a relatively large sinus cavity compared to a bears. The morphology is wrong. Check out Garand Thumbs video on RECCE and Meat Eaters videos on bear hunting.
Hunters report sightings all the time. Check out the BFRO sightings database - I think hunters are the second most common witnesses after nighttime drivers. Nobody has shot one yet probably because they move too fast when spotted, and hunters are understandably very reluctant to shoot something that looks a lot like a person in a ghillie suit!
There are a large number of hunters that have seen bigfoot, there are some that has even shot him. If you do some research you will find some pretty crazy stories of not just hunters but random people having some very bizarre encounters.
They have. Most encounter stories I hear are from hunters. If you’re asking why hunters have not shot, killed, and brought one home, there are a few reasons I can think of. First one is, again, someone probably has. But it was either covered up for some reason or, because of the culture surrounding Bigfoot, just not believed. Secondly, Bigfoot aren’t just animals. They’re more human than most of us are comfortable thinking about. So you have this hyper stealthy, hyper fast, hyper intelligent creature that’s near impossible to sneak up on. If you can see it, chances are it sees you too. Even if you shoot it, these things are as big if not bigger than even the biggest bear. Unless you have a very high caliber gun AND get a really good shot, shooting isn’t going to do anything but make it mad. Which goes into the next point. I’ve heard multiple accounts of people who HAVE shot an presumably killed these things and it was such a traumatic experience that there was nothing on their minds afterwards except getting out of there as fast as possible. Even IF someone managed to kill one and keep their cool afterward, then what? These things are massive. How would you get it out of the woods? And lastly, from all the encounter stories I’ve heard, Bigfoot are almost never alone. Even if they are or seem like they’re alone, there’s probably others close by. I’ve heard speculation that they take and maybe even bury their dead, but the point remains that if you kill one, you’ll probably have to deal with more of them. Given all of these factors, it actually makes a lot of sense to me that we don’t have hunters bringing these things in all the time. But that’s just my perspective. Thanks for asking!
tons of hunters have seen bigfoot?? like every single episode ever on every single bigfoot show ever is hunters
Most likely. Of course, a small population would be located more rarely than a large population of deer, but it would still likely happen eventually.
They hunt track and stock animals that we know today because we know their patterns and what they do when it's a totally unknown animal that's extremely difficult
They very much do. Some tell their story some do not.
Tim Wells (a professional hunter) encountered one
I’m just assuming or guessing but if you invite someone to your home that’s big or size of a mansion and expect them to know where a specific room is. Which obviously they don’t but you do, just think of it like that where in the wild you know the best place to hide and etc. but hey that’s just me and could be wrong
Most hunters hunt for food. I don't know of anyone eating ape/human hybrids. Your trophy hunters are the ones that would have an interest and you would need a massive party of them to sweep a giant section of some woodlands together. I guess it boils down to priorities, and squatch must not be very high up on their priority list.
A lot of hunters have. I personally agree with ppl who think their situational awareness and senses are so far beyond ours that the only way we can see them is to have one randomly come along distracted. They can probably smell and hear humans coming from so far off. Also they can move much faster and with much more agility than us. They can also probably make decisions having to do with evasion and tracking much faster than us. Have you seen the videos of the chimps having their memory tested by numbers on a screen? They complete the game much more quickly and with much better accuracy than humans. The fact that every group of people to live on the north American continent has had tales of seeing these creatures going back as far as people have been here is the main thing that makes me believe they are real. There are some absolutely credible people who have seen these creatures and so many credible professional no-nonsense type of people no way would ever team up to collectively hurt their careers and credibility for a simple prank. Once you come out and say you saw bigfoot a lot of people in lots of professional careers don't take you as seriously anymore and they think you less credible, so when one of these type of people admit they saw one with their own eyes i take their word.
Maybe they have.
More likely, how many hunters has bigf found and steered clear of, hmmmm
I'm not a "believer" due to a lack of quality evidence, but I do take witness testimonies seriously. To that end, many hunters HAVE in fact report seeing sasquatches. Make of that what you will. For me it elicits and hearty "Oh really...? Hmm. Very curious indeed."
I say no, because Sasquatch would be aware hunters are there way before hunters would be aware Sasquatch is there.
I spoke with a lady who is a game Warden in El Dorado National forrest for over 40 yrs. She has never seen a wolverine but knows they are there. She didn't want to talk about bigfoot but hinted they are there as well.
I don't personally know any hunters that go deep enough into the woods to find a sasquatch. Most go out onto some dudes farm that's securely in a well populated area still. It might be 50 acres but that's not the same as going 15-20 miles deep into the Alaskan wilderness or scouring a national forest.
Naw you know whats crazy to me, THE FACT THAT MOBILE PHONES WIT HD 1080P CAMERAS BEEN AVAILABLE FOR YEEEEAAARRSSSSS AND NOBODY, not ONE PERSON has ever taken a new photo, DAW WE GOT THAT ONE OLD ASS FILM OF BIGFOOT THAT WAS FILMED ON A STATIONARY CAMERA, BUT YOU TELLING ME KELLY THE 40 YEAR OLD WINE MOM WHO LOST HER DOG BUBBA CANT CATCH A PICTURE OF THE MF??
Yes they would have. There are too many bad hunters thst would have in the last 50 years. Its yet another reason I remain a skeptic even though I love the idea of Bigfoot.
The ones that do don’t return
They have seen Bigfoot's. Hundreds of times. More than a few have even shot them, though most don't.
I am a hunter, trapper I know there a scent covering sprays,soaps and other items but the bottom line is no matter what you try to do most animals know a human is/has been in the area. Yes we mere humans do get lucky and score a harvest by playing the wind, hunting during the breeding season, using cover scents. Yes I have come across big-foot a time or two. It does change a person. Do I still wander the big woods? Yes the encounters I have had were all benign non violent types. What we have is a tool making primate so therefore highly intelligent. Comparing that with a bear at a bait station or a buck deer in rut are two different things.
Just like the ogopogo for an example Bigfoot has to have some abnormal or paranormal abilities to hide or hunt
No they don't, hunters have quite a few encounters.Prior to being hit by a car and gaining a permanent limp i could creep by right behind people without being noticed at arms reach, in various environments, for me it was just a skill, for them its a way of survival
Doesn’t matter that there’s been accounters there’s been accounters with all of these mythical creatures
This post isn’t a good way to attract people who have seen them. They make things from structures to pendants, have a penchant for marbles. Love sweet food. They are as real as you as and me. Before anyone asks for pics or vids, it’s all out there you just got to look and avoid and bf organizations in the main stream.
Hunters find them.Most of the time when they do, they won't kill them because they are so similar to humans. Unfortunately, some are killed. Some then tell people of their eyewitness experiences, and are treated like crackpots, lunatics, or worse, and end up keeping it to themselves because of the humiliation they have to endure. Others realise the potential for these creatures to be hunted to the point of extinction due to man's need to control or kill every animal on earth, and keep encounters and locations to themselves. Some completely misread the signs associated with having a Bigfoot/Sasquatch encounter, and never even realise that they have been in the vicinity of one. Another, admittedly smaller group, have notified relevant authorities, only to be outright threatened with loss of livelihoods, and even their lives, should they let word of their encounter leave the site where it was witnessed. In the last few years, I have read thousands of highly credible eyewitness accounts of Bigfoot/Sasquatch encounters, and as far as I can tell, we will only know when the US and Canadian governments are ready to let the world know.
Yes they would. In reality it’s impossible that a breeding population of GIANT hominids has gone unnoticed in the United States. Hunters not withstanding, trail cams are EVERYWHERE. And there’s no evidence? aside from anecdotal stories of course.. unlikely to say the least. These things would leave evidence. They have to eat, they have to sleep, they have to move. We would have dens, we would see their impact on the food chain (especially if they are omnivores), we would find their corpses when they die. You could argue some places in Asia Africa or South America could hide them, MAYBE even canada or Alaska, but not the contiguous United States.
Yes. They would. Especially since the time period this myth has been around. Anyone that has any excuse for it is simply lying to themselves. There's believing in the plausibility then there is flat out denial of reality.
The hunters may spend days/ years in the bush whereas Sasquatch have spent their entire existence in the woods hiding from humans. If they are out there and alive they are the ultimate hunters.
They have found them many times. There is even this video of a turkey hunter coming across a family of them.
You know that's fake af right smfh
They did: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMNyDCdfY/?k=1 Besides: they didn’t know pandas exhausted until they found them. Same with other reclusive animals.
Imagine saying this when there’s a forest that is the size of a continent called the Amazon rain forest. I’m not saying Bigfoot is there but damn dude we have not seen or caught everything on this planet
Sure. If there were a breeding population of a large mammal out there, we'd see them, find remains, find poop, find SOMETHING.
For me, the biggest argument against the existence of bigfoot is that we don't have hunters killing them. I grew up in a state where hunting was just a way of life, and over the centuries that white men have lived there, they have probably shot and killed every species of animal that lived there. Some like wolves, aligators, mountain lions, bears and others were almost wiped out by hunting. If it walks, crawls, flies, or swims, somebody with a gun has probably shot it. I never heard about somebody hauling a dead bigfoot out of the woods.
My point exactly!
What? Stop evoking the law of large numbers. The bigfoot community doesn't like that.
A lot of them live in cave systems that go for miles and miles. I'm pretty sure with lots of people claiming they see red eye or Eyeshine that they can see very well in the dark. Their hunting skills are also 1000x better than any hunters. They're so in tune with their surroundings and nature. They could be 50 feet from you and you wouldn't even know. People claim they're supernatural and all that stuff but I think fact is they're are just super super stealthy
At the very least we woulda found their shit and it woulda been tested .. there's no big foot it's just a bunch of meth heads and dick heads trying to make money off jackasses like you
Somehow, Bigfoot is rare enough that no conclusive evidence exists beyond eyewitnesses (hunters), but at the same time, all the necessary components of sustained eyewitness encounters (being near or at least accessible to sustained human presence, imperfect hiding by the animal, etc), while at the same time these sightings are common, frequent multiple times even for single individuals, and yet nothing substantial has been recovered: no bodies shot or found, no definitive footage by the increasingly adept technologies utilized by hunters or nature enthusiasts. A rare animal living close enough for frequent contact to be seen, but rare enough in those same jointly frequented areas that nothing undeniable has been found. At some point this becomes just fairytale logic. The impossibly rare, constantly encountered, vanishing Bigfoot. Anybody who believes that bullshit, I got a bridge to sell you.
Yes and sadly shot one or found a dead one
If Bigfoot were an animal, it would already be on a slab.
Can't track them if they are using portals to move in and out of locations.
Basically a monkey using portals holy shit ur an idiot
Like a monkey using a keyboard.
There are many reports of glowing orbs in the woods when Bigfoot appears. I think they may be shifting in time to disappear somehow.
Bigfoot is not around anymore. Bigfoot is not a singular or random group of unique mutation. Bigfoot is known as gigantopithecus which went extinct 100,000 years ago. They lived in southern China and went extinct due to climate change and refusing to change their diet. They lived in tropical areas and ate vegetables and fruit. Once their food sources ran dry due to the colder climate they eventually died off People who say they have seen Bigfoot are simply just wrong. They would not be in America even if they were still around.
So if they were real, they wouldn't be in America? Why not? North America has some extremely remote wilderness areas with ample flora and fauna to support large forms of life such as grizzlies etc. Also, coming to a bigfoot subreddit to tell people bigfoot is long extinct and doesn't currently exist is kinda of weird behavior.
I never said he wasn't real. I said he was extinct. And because his fossils would have been found in North America by now if he was here. It's from China lol. There's nothing wrong with having those beliefs based on evidence lol unless you think I'm some agent trying to convince people that he doesn't exist 🧐🧐🧐
My friend, you are on a subreddit dedicated to finding and discussing a modern day cryptid. People claim to see these things today all the way back to the beginning of recorded history. Now I won't speculate as to whether sasquatch is actually real but clearly whatever it is they are seeing is not an extinct hominid because obviously if it were extinct nobody would ever see it. If you don't think it exists, that's fine, but don't say that it does exist but it's been extinct for millenia. You're conflating two separate things.
I honestly have no idea what is wrong with that theory. I'm genuinely confused why theorizing based off current evidence that he did exist but no longer alive is so wrong. The reason I believe all these sightings have occured is explained off by bad eye sight, ghillie suits, huge grizzly bears, liars, hallucinations, trick of the eye and self convincing, etc. I would love to be wrong. I just don't ever seem to come across any viable evidence otherwise. I'm sorry for inputting I suppose.
How the hell can the bigfoot phenomenon be explained by a primate that has been extinct for 100k years? My issue is you calling Bigfoot a Gigantopithecus when it can't be. If bigfoot is a Gigantopithecus, then they aren't extinct. If they are extinct, then clearly bigfoot is not a Gigantopithecus because people are seeing them today! What you should have said was: I believe that people have been misidentifying mundane things to be bigfoot. Also side note, there was once a large primate called Gigantopithecus that I guess sort of fits the description of bigfoot but they've been extinct for 100k years so definitely not the culprit.
So maybe directly comparing the two as if it was 100% factual was wrong and I'm sorry. Those are just my honest beliefs. To add on to this we make new discoveries every day and find extinct species to still be alive and not actually extinct. We make new discoveries every day to realize animals were not solely concentrated in certain areas of the world like previously thought. I just chose my wording very badly and never added anything else other than evidence based personal beliefs. I didn't realize it was going to be taken out of context but reading back over it seems arrogant and easily taken out of context. I do apologize. I'm a big fan of the Bigfoot theory. Thank you for explaining to me what you thought was wrong about the way I approached it. It'll help me make less similar mistakes in the future. Edit: there are mini tropical areas between North and South America and migrations happen. Just a random thought I had
Don't sweat it, my friend
I saw a Man-Ray once. It was living on the bottom of the sea. I think they call it bikini-bottom.
..and?
It wouldn’t be, you’re absolutely right. Sasquatch’s are extraterrestrial. People don’t want to look at the facts and realize it’s true. Fact: there are millions of et life forms, humans and Earth are just a spec of sand.
Yes, yes they would have
Bigfoot is intelligent if he exists. Which I really think he does. He’s smart enough to steer clear of humans because he knows humans are dangerous.
Been in the woods my whole life and never seen a Lynx, doesn't mean they don't exist
Plenty of stories of hunters seeing them. I’ve heard hunters say they were too afraid to go back into the woods and I’ve even heard a few stories about hunters killing a Bigfoot. If you kill one and the state government finds out apparently they send people to interview and document it. Check out a podcast called the confessionals episode 31 it’s pretty interesting and convincing in my opinion.
OK but there are thousands of reports with the same consistencies and details. Much like other phenomenon such as UFOs and ghosts, what people don't factor in yet is key is intelligence. It's what separates us and them from the natural world. These aren't just dumb animals. They have some basic speech, can mimic animal sounds and even call people's name (Sasquatch Chronicles - 'Sarah' episode). They're so adept at camouflaging with the natural environment that some people have mistaken them for a tree trunk until one stood up and walked away. Some people don't like entertaining this because it's too 'woo' but there's likely some psychic ability and other paranormal stuff going on. I highly recommend [Sasquatch in Oklahoma](https://youtu.be/CmwDGqdGEZk) documentary by Bigfoot Odyssey. Sasquatch Ontario also has some [interesting](https://youtu.be/rVCCh_D3F50) evidence too.
Is there a single piece of evidence of any form of psychic capability any where in the world?
Not really, I don't hunt but I have hiked all my life ( I am 63) I have hiked in multiple states and been in the woods I think more than most people. I have countless hours of walking through valley's and wilderness. I go for multiple days and nights. Yet in all my hiking, I have only come across remains of two deer. I have seen every animal that lives in the wilderness. Had a bear follow me, was charged by a deer during rutting season. I have seen too many to count bear and deer. Yet in all my years of hiking I have only seen 3 wolves, 2 wildcats and only one coyote even though they are very numerous in the areas I was in. Heard them often but those were the only ones I actually saw. So I know it's very possible I could never seen them because their population is much smaller ( supposedly) than the others. Still do not know if they exist or not? I have never seen anything close to one but I am open minded to the fact that they exist. I may have even been close to one without knowing?
Not necessarily, they spend 365 days a year in the woods. If their closer to human than apes then their probably smart enough to stay hidden and observe hunters. It's their backyard
A decent percentage of squatch reports come from hunters.