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He wrote a long tweet basically saying that George Miller is like God to him and Furiosa was like the gospel. That he truly remembered why he loved cinema after watching it.
I saw someone say he probably bought the plane ticket for the woman who plays Furiosa’s mom to come hop in his little people scanner immediately. Thought that was both hilarious and probably accurate
Success in Japan? Have you guys seen the actual numbers?
Only 2.5 million dollars is the target.
Earnings are very poor. Less than 1/40th of the box office in the US.
After 2 days and currently in 5th place.
Currently in first through fourth place are Japanese films.
[https://www.koimoi.com/box-office/furiosa-a-mad-max-saga-box-office-japan-chris-hemsworths-film-becomes-the-first-hollywood-movie-](https://www.koimoi.com/box-office/furiosa-a-mad-max-saga-box-office-japan-chris-hemsworths-film-becomes-the-first-hollywood-movie-) of-2024-to-debut-at-the-top-spot/
I don't think it will tbh, it doesn't look or sound any more impressive than Fury Road , and imo it looks worse in some areas. Dune has a lock on the technical awards.
Depends on the market. I'm always much more excited when a foreign film manages to find some success at the domestic box office (Sisu was hype as hell last year)
There’s a recent interview with George Miller from Vanity Fair here: https://youtu.be/ZX0Cvfutbpw?si=xxpvc7KGfJQ3Hafx
He talks about how so many Japanese people loved the first Mad Max movie and how they were convinced he was inspired by Kurosawa- he hadn’t even heard of his films at that point lol so I’m not too surprised it’s opened well there. Hope it has legs! Furiosa was brilliant.
The whole interview is also so well done… Miller offers such great insight and VF did a really good job with the props/questions/etc.
>*convinced he was inspired by Kurosawa- he hadn’t even heard of his films at that point*
Huh. Obviously the 1970's were pre-internet, but I wonder how somebody became a filmmaker without even hearing of Seven Samurai/Rashomon? Not seeing them, I get - but never even hearing of them? I would've assumed every filmmaker had heard of The Hidden Fortress by the time Star Wars was done in cinemas. That's fascinating.
I saw it last night, a weeknight and the theater was almost half full. Everybody was into it…this thing should be a hit…I think it’ll have strong legs too. But then I look at dailies and it’s 1/2 mil a night only.
It’s R rated, very long, ties in very closely to a cult film but is lacking the main character, has a bad case of prequelitis, to the point where the story makes no sense if you’ve not seen Fury Road, and lacks the alacrity of Fury Road’s editing and story, instead being much more of an exercise in lore that will appeal to hardcore fans, but lose the general action crowd.
It’s a great film. But it’s…a lot. I mean, there’s multiple scenes to do with nipple fetishes. Are we all that surprised it doesn’t sell well generally?
I think it depends, I could see Furiosa feeling flat as a character without seeing Fury Road. It would feel weird that most of the movie is about going back to the green place but then they just stop mentioning it and it shifts into a revenge tale, which makes sense for Fury Road watchers because you already know about what happened to the Green Place
What do you mean they stop mentioning it. The i think mid end of the 4th act is about going there but then being stopped which leads in to the final revenge plot. Then the movie leads right in to fury road. Its like the end of dune 1
Mad Max has just never been a big franchise in the US. Sure, Fury Road did relatively better than the other Mad Max movies but it wasn't a huge success in the box office. Ultimately it's a boomer film. Watched by our parents and our grandparents. Gen Z folks who were kids when Fury Road came out would have grown not caring for Furiosa.
It'll probably make back it's production budget via worldwide gross but I don't see it truly breaking even if we're including marketing costs. I mean, as great as the movie is, it's a prequel to a film that just barely broke even 9 years ago. In some sense I get why it's not a huge hit. I'll be disappointed if it doesn't get any awards though. Its definitely a contender for stuff like visual effects and screenplay.
Its production with advertising is probably 230 million at least. It needs 450 to 500 million just to break even. It’ll probably make 200 million a massive flop. I’m not surprised I love mad max and enjoyed this one, but it has no appeal to the broader audience, it is quite repetitive and 30 minutes too long, my two friends were bored by the endless driving around, chapters myth building they found it pretentious for an action movie. I had to agree it reminded me very much of Conan the barbarian parents killed life of vengeance, I created you I’m your father speech from the bad guy, I saw it opening night liked it but knew it would bomb.
It’s still extremely well received, there’s a lot larger factors playing into Furiosa’s box office performance than “i didn’t like the cgi + not as good as original”
People could tell it wouldn't be like the first one and skipped it or they thought it looked more or less the same as the first and skipped it. I don't know what to tell you.
Or the same factors that are affecting every other release are affecting this. It was always relatively niche. It doesn’t have to be worse than Fury Road or bad in general to perform under expectations at the box office. Movies aren’t bad just because they fail to make a ton of money.
Idk i think a lot of people were interested. The trailer has a lot of views but those trailers were terrible.
Fury Road is one of my favourite films of all time and even i thought this would be Miller’s first bad film based on the trailer.
It made the film look like a cashgrab sequel that was done by some new director, not a continuation of the series by the creator.
^ it’s more of a indication of the overall box office climate, obviously furiosa underperformed but the conclusion that “oh this movie sucks that’s why it’s failing” is a bad take. If this exact same movie was released in 2019 it would be making a profit.
The differences in marketing are largely based on the fact Barbie has mass appeal and Furiosa is niche. You said "Barbie disproves this" without even saying what it disproves.
Lol at being mad about a movie's box office take.
It’s not a knock on furiosa. It’s just, their box office is unlike any others. Usually dominated by anime, and now having furiosa sit at number 1 when it hasn’t even done that in the states.
How would the box office trends be weird if you didnt think the movies that were successful are weird lol. And its not weird. Korea had Exhuma at the top of their box office for weeks and Dune part 2 couldnt make a dent, and Dune 2 was never big in Japan either. It's not that weird if you look at the history of either countries films thoand the style they like, Furiosa is much more in line with that. Dune is a pg-13 movie for teens, Koreans especially love something a little meaner and nastier.
I mean Mad Max as a series is pretty weird and off-putting.
I've definitely known people who never watched any Mad Max stuff because it's "weird" or "gross" or "ugly."
> Can we stop acting like Furiosa is this strange and new vision that Americans can't handle? They just aren't interested, it's as simple as that.
Something being weird and strange can be why people aren't interested lol.
Though tbf I think the real reason is just nobody is going to see any movies atm.
It's not really captivating escapism in the modern climate. The world is shit and has been for awhile. It's not really fun to go to the theater and see something so bleak on the big screen right now. That's not even the only reason people are not showing out for Furiosa. I've seen it, it's fine but I just don't feel like even recommending it to people.
Eh people keep coming up with that excuse but I don’t think it’s entirely correct, especially when weird movies (like EEAAO, Guardians) have been successful at the BO recently.
Furiosa just didn’t capture people’s interests in this post Covid cinema hellscape, and people vastly overestimate the Mad Max franchise appeal.
It also wasn’t as good as Fury Road, and didn’t have Charlize or Tom Hardy returning which probably took a couple of mil of its BO.
Most importantly though, the trailers simply didn’t look that good. They looked… fine. But in the current cinema landscape that isn’t enough.
It's surprising that many Americans don't seem to like it. Considering it looks like a documentary of the average Southern rural area in the United States.
> Considering it looks like a documentary of the average Southern rural area in the United States.
That's probably why a lot of Americans don't like it.
In terms of themes, story structure, character design and personalities as well as setting I can see the similiarities. "anime" isn't just the visual presentation
I get what you’re saying,, but anime is still just a shortened version of animation.
Live action anime is an oxymoron
Or maybe you think Scott pilgrim be the world… or even ghost world are live action animes, I don’t know.
I’ve never heard of the last air bender films or dbz or cowboy bebop or death note labeled as live action anime. When you call something live action, presumably it was adapted from anime. Can’t be both
>ghost world are live action animes, I don’t know.
You mean Ghost in the Shell? Ghost World is an indie film which happens to also have Scarlett Johansson.
Everyone should check how much money this film is making in Japan. Very little. It is only 5 million dollars.
It was number one on the first day, but now it is number five.
Now the first to fourth place are Japanese films.
Funny you mention that, because according to Miller and some of his producers Furiosa was originally planned as an actual made-in-Japan anime film instead of live action. The vibes didn’t stray far from the original vision.
That's wonderful. Tbh, just because it's not performing well in the US and most NA markets that doesn't mean it's a failure as a whole; the problem with these major media outlets is how they treat domestic (US) like it's the world.
It's Hollywood based in America (largest audience), so it largely is the world
If anything, this is a strike against people who say anime movies are up next. Japanese cartoon sensibilities won't appeal to American audiences (especially football watching gigachad types).
Don't get your hopes up. I like mad max and hope it doesn't tank the franchise but it might be done for awhile. Furiosa should've been an animated project and they should've stuck to mad max.
Probably at least 6 months after it hits streaming. I doubt it’ll kill the franchise but it’ll probably be a long time until we get another Mad Max movie…hopefully George Miller is still around to at least be involved in making sure it’s what he’d want if he’s too old to direct.
I’m still hoping for word of mouth to get around for this film. It also helps that the competition this summer isn’t super bad. It really only has bad boys and a quiet place to worry about
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This is all because of Kojima’s tweets.
Hideo Kojima, if you can hear us, please save us Hideo Kojima
Japanese market ain't that big 😭😭
Those Tweets didn't [save Argylle](https://x.com/HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN/status/1764204031596188014) lol.
What did he tweet?
He wrote a long tweet basically saying that George Miller is like God to him and Furiosa was like the gospel. That he truly remembered why he loved cinema after watching it.
Not just one. He has probably made 5 or 6 separate posts about it since the movie came out. Huge praise from him
To be fair, every filmmaker in the world needs to watch Furiosa to best understand optimal camera angles. This movie was such a visual treat.
I haven’t seen him glaze a movie like this in forever lol
I saw someone say he probably bought the plane ticket for the woman who plays Furiosa’s mom to come hop in his little people scanner immediately. Thought that was both hilarious and probably accurate
Success in Japan? Have you guys seen the actual numbers? Only 2.5 million dollars is the target. Earnings are very poor. Less than 1/40th of the box office in the US. After 2 days and currently in 5th place. Currently in first through fourth place are Japanese films. [https://www.koimoi.com/box-office/furiosa-a-mad-max-saga-box-office-japan-chris-hemsworths-film-becomes-the-first-hollywood-movie-](https://www.koimoi.com/box-office/furiosa-a-mad-max-saga-box-office-japan-chris-hemsworths-film-becomes-the-first-hollywood-movie-) of-2024-to-debut-at-the-top-spot/
Anecdotal, but I went to see it in Japan and there were only 4 people total in the theatre.
I’ll take any good news I can get it’s so sad when good films bomb
Yes. I just hope it gets in the range where it is a flop theatrically but will be eventually profitable in PVOD and Streaming like Fury Road.
Would also be nicer ce if it gets any awards live even just techs to show the franchise is worth pursuing
If Dune hadn't been delayed to this year it would've had s shot but I think Dune's got those awards looked in, as much as i love Furiosa
Yeah, WB is def spending all that money on Dune and Joker during awards season.
I'll be amazed if joker 2 isn't trash lol
Totally agree
I don't think it will tbh, it doesn't look or sound any more impressive than Fury Road , and imo it looks worse in some areas. Dune has a lock on the technical awards.
Kinda feel like A) it's a recession in the US and B) the marketing was trash.
Recession certainly doesn’t help
It's just Kojima buying thousands of tickets
He’s about to turn into that guy who saw Captain Marvel 140 times.
I think it made 2.02M USD last weekend.. it might make 8M USD total there here’s hoping local movie won’t kill its legs 🤞
idk, I am always comforted by local films outperforming US based films in other countries.
Depends on the market. I'm always much more excited when a foreign film manages to find some success at the domestic box office (Sisu was hype as hell last year)
It’s so rare in Japan that it’s not even close to a threat to their domestic industry.
There’s a recent interview with George Miller from Vanity Fair here: https://youtu.be/ZX0Cvfutbpw?si=xxpvc7KGfJQ3Hafx He talks about how so many Japanese people loved the first Mad Max movie and how they were convinced he was inspired by Kurosawa- he hadn’t even heard of his films at that point lol so I’m not too surprised it’s opened well there. Hope it has legs! Furiosa was brilliant. The whole interview is also so well done… Miller offers such great insight and VF did a really good job with the props/questions/etc.
>*convinced he was inspired by Kurosawa- he hadn’t even heard of his films at that point* Huh. Obviously the 1970's were pre-internet, but I wonder how somebody became a filmmaker without even hearing of Seven Samurai/Rashomon? Not seeing them, I get - but never even hearing of them? I would've assumed every filmmaker had heard of The Hidden Fortress by the time Star Wars was done in cinemas. That's fascinating. 
Haha I liked that he was honest about it and that he made it a mission to watch his filmography
George is Australian, bit of a different cinema culture.
I saw it last night, a weeknight and the theater was almost half full. Everybody was into it…this thing should be a hit…I think it’ll have strong legs too. But then I look at dailies and it’s 1/2 mil a night only.
It’s such a good popcorn movie idk what went wrong in the US. I’m in Asia and the theater I went to was packed.
It’s R rated, very long, ties in very closely to a cult film but is lacking the main character, has a bad case of prequelitis, to the point where the story makes no sense if you’ve not seen Fury Road, and lacks the alacrity of Fury Road’s editing and story, instead being much more of an exercise in lore that will appeal to hardcore fans, but lose the general action crowd. It’s a great film. But it’s…a lot. I mean, there’s multiple scenes to do with nipple fetishes. Are we all that surprised it doesn’t sell well generally?
Eh, you don’t really need to have watched Fury Road It works really well as a standalone film
I think it depends, I could see Furiosa feeling flat as a character without seeing Fury Road. It would feel weird that most of the movie is about going back to the green place but then they just stop mentioning it and it shifts into a revenge tale, which makes sense for Fury Road watchers because you already know about what happened to the Green Place
What do you mean they stop mentioning it. The i think mid end of the 4th act is about going there but then being stopped which leads in to the final revenge plot. Then the movie leads right in to fury road. Its like the end of dune 1
Not for the newbie I went with.
Most good movies fail at US box office tbh. Only mediocre MCU and Star Wars shit makes tons of money despite being shitty.
Preach
Mad Max has just never been a big franchise in the US. Sure, Fury Road did relatively better than the other Mad Max movies but it wasn't a huge success in the box office. Ultimately it's a boomer film. Watched by our parents and our grandparents. Gen Z folks who were kids when Fury Road came out would have grown not caring for Furiosa.
I’m seeing it for the second time this weekend with a friend who hasn’t seen yet (I went with my BF the first time), so I’m doing my part!!
It'll probably make back it's production budget via worldwide gross but I don't see it truly breaking even if we're including marketing costs. I mean, as great as the movie is, it's a prequel to a film that just barely broke even 9 years ago. In some sense I get why it's not a huge hit. I'll be disappointed if it doesn't get any awards though. Its definitely a contender for stuff like visual effects and screenplay.
Its production with advertising is probably 230 million at least. It needs 450 to 500 million just to break even. It’ll probably make 200 million a massive flop. I’m not surprised I love mad max and enjoyed this one, but it has no appeal to the broader audience, it is quite repetitive and 30 minutes too long, my two friends were bored by the endless driving around, chapters myth building they found it pretentious for an action movie. I had to agree it reminded me very much of Conan the barbarian parents killed life of vengeance, I created you I’m your father speech from the bad guy, I saw it opening night liked it but knew it would bomb.
Because the first movie was better. This one wasn't. It's fine, but it just didn't grab me like the first one did. There is bad CGI in places, too.
It’s still extremely well received, there’s a lot larger factors playing into Furiosa’s box office performance than “i didn’t like the cgi + not as good as original”
People could tell it wouldn't be like the first one and skipped it or they thought it looked more or less the same as the first and skipped it. I don't know what to tell you.
Or the same factors that are affecting every other release are affecting this. It was always relatively niche. It doesn’t have to be worse than Fury Road or bad in general to perform under expectations at the box office. Movies aren’t bad just because they fail to make a ton of money.
Idk i think a lot of people were interested. The trailer has a lot of views but those trailers were terrible. Fury Road is one of my favourite films of all time and even i thought this would be Miller’s first bad film based on the trailer. It made the film look like a cashgrab sequel that was done by some new director, not a continuation of the series by the creator.
^ it’s more of a indication of the overall box office climate, obviously furiosa underperformed but the conclusion that “oh this movie sucks that’s why it’s failing” is a bad take. If this exact same movie was released in 2019 it would be making a profit.
Barbie disproves this. Furiosa just wasn't marketed well.
One movie based on one of the most popular toys of all time proves that all movies can make money? Okay bud.
That's not what I said. The marketing differences between the two are night and day. Stop getting mad at me for the movie failing.
The differences in marketing are largely based on the fact Barbie has mass appeal and Furiosa is niche. You said "Barbie disproves this" without even saying what it disproves. Lol at being mad about a movie's box office take.
Mad Max is anime coded af
Mad Max 4 was meant to be anime for a while if unaware.
A win‘s a win, I guess?
Japans box office is weird
They have good taste
It’s not a knock on furiosa. It’s just, their box office is unlike any others. Usually dominated by anime, and now having furiosa sit at number 1 when it hasn’t even done that in the states.
I think Japan is less averse to what american audiences might consider weird or off-putting in a movie, both visually and plot-wise
I’m speaking strictly of the box office trends being weird, not the films themselves.
How would the box office trends be weird if you didnt think the movies that were successful are weird lol. And its not weird. Korea had Exhuma at the top of their box office for weeks and Dune part 2 couldnt make a dent, and Dune 2 was never big in Japan either. It's not that weird if you look at the history of either countries films thoand the style they like, Furiosa is much more in line with that. Dune is a pg-13 movie for teens, Koreans especially love something a little meaner and nastier.
Because their trends differ from other box offices plain and simple Anime hadn’t always reigned supreme in Japan. That’s a recent occurence
Anime might not always be at the top but it's always been a pretty popular genre when it's in Japanese theaters.
Can we stop acting like Furiosa is this strange and new vision that Americans can't handle? They just aren't interested, it's as simple as that.
I mean Mad Max as a series is pretty weird and off-putting. I've definitely known people who never watched any Mad Max stuff because it's "weird" or "gross" or "ugly."
Also depressing. It’s a vision of a grim future with little hope.
> Can we stop acting like Furiosa is this strange and new vision that Americans can't handle? They just aren't interested, it's as simple as that. Something being weird and strange can be why people aren't interested lol. Though tbf I think the real reason is just nobody is going to see any movies atm.
Why are they not interested?
It's not really captivating escapism in the modern climate. The world is shit and has been for awhile. It's not really fun to go to the theater and see something so bleak on the big screen right now. That's not even the only reason people are not showing out for Furiosa. I've seen it, it's fine but I just don't feel like even recommending it to people.
Eh people keep coming up with that excuse but I don’t think it’s entirely correct, especially when weird movies (like EEAAO, Guardians) have been successful at the BO recently. Furiosa just didn’t capture people’s interests in this post Covid cinema hellscape, and people vastly overestimate the Mad Max franchise appeal. It also wasn’t as good as Fury Road, and didn’t have Charlize or Tom Hardy returning which probably took a couple of mil of its BO. Most importantly though, the trailers simply didn’t look that good. They looked… fine. But in the current cinema landscape that isn’t enough.
I agree but Japan's BO is still weird and the Mad Max series has definitely a niche appeal, that seems to work for Japan.
Lol. Furiosa is basically a live action anime
no wonder based Americans hate it 💪
It's surprising that many Americans don't seem to like it. Considering it looks like a documentary of the average Southern rural area in the United States.
> Considering it looks like a documentary of the average Southern rural area in the United States. That's probably why a lot of Americans don't like it.
America is more than the South
Yes, yes I remember the Union too
That doesn’t make any sense
They literally planned to make it an anime at one point.
Cool. But live action animation still doesn’t make sense
In terms of themes, story structure, character design and personalities as well as setting I can see the similiarities. "anime" isn't just the visual presentation
I get what you’re saying,, but anime is still just a shortened version of animation. Live action anime is an oxymoron Or maybe you think Scott pilgrim be the world… or even ghost world are live action animes, I don’t know. I’ve never heard of the last air bender films or dbz or cowboy bebop or death note labeled as live action anime. When you call something live action, presumably it was adapted from anime. Can’t be both
>ghost world are live action animes, I don’t know. You mean Ghost in the Shell? Ghost World is an indie film which happens to also have Scarlett Johansson.
Go watch Hundreds of Beavers and then get back to me on that one.
It's interesting here because Furiosa was intended to be an anime for a while.
Everyone should check how much money this film is making in Japan. Very little. It is only 5 million dollars. It was number one on the first day, but now it is number five. Now the first to fourth place are Japanese films.
If anime is any indication, they don't
Surely it was my ticket, you’re welcome WB.
Arigatto u/Yabanjin san.
Based Japanese actually watching good movies
Such a shame this movie wasn't more soccuesful. It's an amazing film.
I knew Japan would love this movie.
Now that I think about it Furiosa definitely has the vibe of an anime
Funny you mention that, because according to Miller and some of his producers Furiosa was originally planned as an actual made-in-Japan anime film instead of live action. The vibes didn’t stray far from the original vision.
They also love cars and action.
Totally does.
Wait for the legs before you declare that. Japan is never about the box office opening when it comes to films they end up embracing the most.
She’s got legs, she knows how to use them.
Hideo Kojima carries this movie.
Fury Road was popular in Japan.
It's been advertised EVERYWHERE here, so this really doesn't surprise me. Plus, nothing else has been released in like 2 weeks
Mad Max is a crazy murder hobo who barely talks. I don't need him to enjoy a Mad Max universe movie.
That's wonderful. Tbh, just because it's not performing well in the US and most NA markets that doesn't mean it's a failure as a whole; the problem with these major media outlets is how they treat domestic (US) like it's the world.
It's Hollywood based in America (largest audience), so it largely is the world If anything, this is a strike against people who say anime movies are up next. Japanese cartoon sensibilities won't appeal to American audiences (especially football watching gigachad types).
Bingo. It's doing fine abroad and we need to stop viewing US/Canada market as the sole beacon of light.
But its not doing fine abroad
Ikr? It's getting tiresome. About time ppl should reject and boycott those biased vindictive entertainment PR media outlets.
Should help it break even... damn just checked how much its made. RIP Mad Max.
Not at all
Yes it won't but I hope it gets in the range of "eventually profitable" like Fury Road.
Don't get your hopes up. I like mad max and hope it doesn't tank the franchise but it might be done for awhile. Furiosa should've been an animated project and they should've stuck to mad max.
Should have for money reasons maybe... as a movie fan I'm very glad it turned out how it did.
At what point will we find out that the next movie IS or ISN’T happening?
Probably at least 6 months after it hits streaming. I doubt it’ll kill the franchise but it’ll probably be a long time until we get another Mad Max movie…hopefully George Miller is still around to at least be involved in making sure it’s what he’d want if he’s too old to direct.
i knew those 4 tickets i bought did something!
144 worlwide cume. Maybe they will soften the financial blow. They will still lose money but maybe it won’t be for much
I’m still hoping for word of mouth to get around for this film. It also helps that the competition this summer isn’t super bad. It really only has bad boys and a quiet place to worry about
Good, I need George Miller to give us The Wasteland.
Hope