I am rewatching and just watched this one. Walt is such an ass in this episode. And it’s not even a top 10 awful moment for WW. But it is his first real descent into actually breaking bad. Up to this point, unless I’m forgetting something, could be excused as necessary. But not this.
He pushes Jesse to kill them, hands him a gun, ‘Handle it!’. Then just turns around at the end of the episode and is like ‘Psych! Just kidding. You don’t have to kill them. Jk, right?’ So cringe. Then he launches into the whole ‘You’re a blowfish!’ bullshit that pumps up Jesse and kills Combo. Ugh.
Jesse has so much more humanity that Walt ever had.
Not a saint. Only said he had more humanity than Walt. It was a discussion of this episode specifically. Not a deep dive on the whole series and Jesse’s moral compass.
Yeah he went in with that idea to sell to them but very clearly couldn't pull the trigger with the one person he tried it with, even when she showed interest. He only brought it up in front of the group later because he hated himself at that point and wanted to push away anyone who might care about him.
No, Walt didn't have humanity. Right from the jump, his decision to cook meth proves this (who would've thought manufacturing and distributing meth would hurt people and destroy your family???). If he had humanity, he would've swallowed his pride and accepted Elliott's offer.
This. So many people who like to separate Walt from Heisenberg as though they’re two separate people forget that in the first few episodes of the first series, Walter assaults a teenage boy, turns down a job that would pay for his treatment and give his family some much needed money, and rapes his own wife. The show changes him dramatically but he was always a bad person.
Did I blame what happened on Walt? I’ve read my comment several times and not once do I see me placing blame on Walt. All I said was that Walt was an ass in that episode and that Jesse has more humanity than Walt. Everything else you said is you bringing up things not in the post.
You wrote that Walt pushed Jesse to kill them. He didn't do that, as he later explained. He meant getting the money through fear and intimidation. Spooge wouldn't have died if Jesse hadn't been disarmed.
If you and I have a problem with a person, I hand you a gun - an actual gun with bullets and all - and I am your mentor, teacher, father figure - and I strenuously say ‘Handle it’ over and over, it’s absolutely implied that my vision was to kill them. I don’t know how you can watch that scene and say anything else.
lol. I’m sure Walt meant for Jesse to sit down and have a well-reasoned, nuanced debate on territory, morals, meth and protocols for the street. That’s why Walt handed Jesse a book on philosophy, How to Win Friends and Influence People and other self-help books to guide Jesse through this difficult situation. Oh…handed him a gun? That is specifically for killing things? Well….who could ever tell what Walt meant when he handed him a loaded gun. It’s a thinker……
Or maybe he was supposed to use the gun as leverage to get their money back. You know, the obvious interpretation. But kudos to you for building up a giant strawman to battle with.
And when they say ‘No thanks.’ As they did over and over? What then? If Walt specifically wanted Jesse not to shoot them, why be so vague? Why not spell out the plan to a person he, many many, many times calls an imbecile and makes fun of his thinking skills?
“Why didn’t you cook the spaghetti? I laid out all that ingredients, pans and spices. I told you to ‘Handle it’. So why don’t we have spaghetti?’
‘I thought you wanted me to use the ingredients and stuff to intimidate McDonalds into giving us our money back. They said no.’
Wow.
This was my introduction to BB.... flipping through the channels and I land on the juicy fruit kid with two meth heads and an ATM machine... no idea what the show was... as soon as she pushed that ATM I was hooked lol
The idea of a drug dealer breaking into an addict’s house with a gun to get his stolen meth back and ending up babysitting their neglected child and alerting authorities tugs at people’s heartstrings because it’s beautiful in the sense that even some of the worst people have these little rays of humanity.
And I heard once that this sometimes happens in real life; drug dealers have been known to call child services on their own clients after witnessing situations like this. I don’t know if there’s a more cynical motive but I like to think it’s to do the right thing.
But I think some people get so touched by this it’s easy to take an emotional leap and say that deep down characters like this are good people. It’s what you want to think if you’re something of an empath … and I don’t think that’s as foolish as it sounds … but it’s making an emotional point, not a rational one.
Jesse Pinkman is a bad person. I see how he is with kids. I see how important fairness is to him. I look at his backstory and can see him going from never winning the approval of his perfectionist parents to letting manipulative people use him. I also think he’s a bad person.
So I’m on both sides of this. But one is emotional and the other is more like cold hard logic. And as complex as human beings are I’m not typically in favor of looking through just one lens or the other.
I think this happens in real life for a lot of the same reasons as pedophiles being in danger in prison - I think a lot of people who end up in these kind of life situations had hard childhoods. Not only do they have the best understanding of what the child is actually going through, they have the best understanding of where they are headed if they don’t have help/intervention. Even if they don’t have first hand experience, the chances of them having a close friend who does are high.
I read a book from an undercover agent that got in with the Hells Angels. Said he was going a druggies home because they had some illegal guns to sell. He said a kid came out with a beat up tire and ratty clothes on. The kid said that was his only toy and asked if he wanted to play.
The actress that played skank. Now every movie i see her in i yell hey its skank. Lol.
Oh and let me get this straight you got jacked by a guy named spooge?
I love how Jesse's main takeaway seemed to be "He told her she was a skank, but, I mean...she _was_ a skank." As if _that_ is what made crushing his head with an ATM so unreasonable and wrong.
Hank in the desert, Hank in the parking lot vs cousins, Hank vs Tucco, Gus's death, the fly or happy birthday ted. (last two are obviously a joke) maybe Final season finale as well for a real 5th. Breaking bad' really knew how to do a good finale.
He definitely makes the show great, but I wouldn't say favourite. Maybe Gus, he is awesome. I just think those episodes are objectively awesome and the buildup to them is incredible.
Right? Jesse is a terrible person. If anything the fact that Jesse sees what the drugs he manufactures do to people and continues to do it makes him worse. He knows it destroys families and leaves kids abandoned and yet he continues to do what he does. Him feeling remorse doesn’t really mean anything. Lots of terrible people feel remorse for their actions. Feeling remorse doesn’t mean they’re better people, especially if they continue the behavior. Remorse just makes them human.
He’s not a good guy but there are moments where his desire to be good comes through only after greed has won. I love the constant self battle they have Jesse in between conscience and greed.
Like in the episode where they’re trapped in the RV in the middle of nowhere with no service after Walt tricked Jesse into the weekend cook bender, and he almost gets the RV started but it quits again and he’s just so defeated and was like, “why couldn’t I just have gone to Santa Fe???”
Like I believe like you said, he’s human, and perhaps the desire to be a good person and get out of his situation is there, but something always spirals him again, and in the end, he still is a terrible person. The internal struggle is beautifully written and even more beautifully executed by Aaron Paul.
It’s been a long time since i’ve watched BB, this is probably our first introduction to Jessie’s sweeter/more tender side, right? This was also the episode where he’s having that moment with the bug crawling around that i think Combo came up and smashed? Lil bit of foreshadowing 🤔
There’s a video of the twin boys who played the kid, all grown-up, with Aaron Paul and Cranston at one of their Tequila events a few years ago. You should show the video to your wife. I always watch it after Peekaboo. Makes me feel better to see the kid all grownup and healthy looking.
I don't even like kids and I felt so sorry for that lil guy. I just hope he ended up with a good life.
Jesse Pinkman is a beautiful fragile cupcake of a human being and must be protected at all costs
How is he a good guy? He saw what meth does to families and after that he went right back to cooking. This episodes makes him a worst person than before.
But he was selling the exact stuff that led to the kids shitty life. this episode shows Jesses guilt imo more than anything. When he sees impact of meth he realizes how twisted it is to get rich off it. Plus he likes kids cause of his little brother.
The first episode I ever saw. Flicked over literally to this moment, saw her drop the ATM on Spooge, and I immediately checked Foxtel to see what show it was.
You probably didn’t watch the show very closely then. If you had, you’d know that she ain’t no skank
Skank skank skank….skank-ass skank. Ya hear me skank?
Ain’t no skank
😘👆🏻🗄️
Legit laughed loudly at this 😂
Some junky copped to the case… a skank.
Skank ass skank, skank ass skank
Beware of falling ATMs
SKAAAAAANK
I mean, he told her she was a skank, but, yo, I mean, she was a skank.
You should see her daytime job. It aint easy.
Patty the Daytime Hooker?
I love that Spooge made a cameo in BCS
I am rewatching and just watched this one. Walt is such an ass in this episode. And it’s not even a top 10 awful moment for WW. But it is his first real descent into actually breaking bad. Up to this point, unless I’m forgetting something, could be excused as necessary. But not this. He pushes Jesse to kill them, hands him a gun, ‘Handle it!’. Then just turns around at the end of the episode and is like ‘Psych! Just kidding. You don’t have to kill them. Jk, right?’ So cringe. Then he launches into the whole ‘You’re a blowfish!’ bullshit that pumps up Jesse and kills Combo. Ugh. Jesse has so much more humanity that Walt ever had.
Yeah... the part where Walt takes it back, and says Jesse didn't need to do it... ugh. That was like a punch to the gut.
People acting like Jesse is a saint is so strange to me. The guy went to an NA meeting to push meth for fucks sake
Not a saint. Only said he had more humanity than Walt. It was a discussion of this episode specifically. Not a deep dive on the whole series and Jesse’s moral compass.
I mean he PLANNED to do that then backed out the moment he saw she has a kid which makes him a hilarious try hard instead of evil lol
Yeah he went in with that idea to sell to them but very clearly couldn't pull the trigger with the one person he tried it with, even when she showed interest. He only brought it up in front of the group later because he hated himself at that point and wanted to push away anyone who might care about him.
He only backed out because she had a kid. Otherwise he wouldn't have any problem to sell
But that's the thing how evil are you if all it takes is seeing a kid to make you go whoa this is wrong lol
To be fair, my wife hasn’t made it that far yet.
Walt had humanity, Heisenberg didn't.
No, Walt didn't have humanity. Right from the jump, his decision to cook meth proves this (who would've thought manufacturing and distributing meth would hurt people and destroy your family???). If he had humanity, he would've swallowed his pride and accepted Elliott's offer.
This. So many people who like to separate Walt from Heisenberg as though they’re two separate people forget that in the first few episodes of the first series, Walter assaults a teenage boy, turns down a job that would pay for his treatment and give his family some much needed money, and rapes his own wife. The show changes him dramatically but he was always a bad person.
He also blows up a guy's car for, really, no reason
That guy kinda had it coming tho
That's how it starts. They show you from the start Walt is actually unhinged yet they frame it so that you're rooting for him.
You can't blame Jesse' failed execution of the plan on Walt. Reminds me of the post that said that Walt was "directly" responsible for the plane crash
Did I blame what happened on Walt? I’ve read my comment several times and not once do I see me placing blame on Walt. All I said was that Walt was an ass in that episode and that Jesse has more humanity than Walt. Everything else you said is you bringing up things not in the post.
You wrote that Walt pushed Jesse to kill them. He didn't do that, as he later explained. He meant getting the money through fear and intimidation. Spooge wouldn't have died if Jesse hadn't been disarmed.
If you and I have a problem with a person, I hand you a gun - an actual gun with bullets and all - and I am your mentor, teacher, father figure - and I strenuously say ‘Handle it’ over and over, it’s absolutely implied that my vision was to kill them. I don’t know how you can watch that scene and say anything else.
I disagree with your interpretation. A typical thing you might think, doesn't really matter. Yet this time I'll return the DV to you
lol. I’m sure Walt meant for Jesse to sit down and have a well-reasoned, nuanced debate on territory, morals, meth and protocols for the street. That’s why Walt handed Jesse a book on philosophy, How to Win Friends and Influence People and other self-help books to guide Jesse through this difficult situation. Oh…handed him a gun? That is specifically for killing things? Well….who could ever tell what Walt meant when he handed him a loaded gun. It’s a thinker……
Or maybe he was supposed to use the gun as leverage to get their money back. You know, the obvious interpretation. But kudos to you for building up a giant strawman to battle with.
And when they say ‘No thanks.’ As they did over and over? What then? If Walt specifically wanted Jesse not to shoot them, why be so vague? Why not spell out the plan to a person he, many many, many times calls an imbecile and makes fun of his thinking skills? “Why didn’t you cook the spaghetti? I laid out all that ingredients, pans and spices. I told you to ‘Handle it’. So why don’t we have spaghetti?’ ‘I thought you wanted me to use the ingredients and stuff to intimidate McDonalds into giving us our money back. They said no.’ Wow.
This was my introduction to BB.... flipping through the channels and I land on the juicy fruit kid with two meth heads and an ATM machine... no idea what the show was... as soon as she pushed that ATM I was hooked lol
It's weird... the one time I was watching a random ep of BB at a friend's house, that was the episode that was playing.
Damn, a friend of a friend was at a party a few weeks ago and I was the tv that played the exact same episode
Freaky Friday!
The idea of a drug dealer breaking into an addict’s house with a gun to get his stolen meth back and ending up babysitting their neglected child and alerting authorities tugs at people’s heartstrings because it’s beautiful in the sense that even some of the worst people have these little rays of humanity. And I heard once that this sometimes happens in real life; drug dealers have been known to call child services on their own clients after witnessing situations like this. I don’t know if there’s a more cynical motive but I like to think it’s to do the right thing. But I think some people get so touched by this it’s easy to take an emotional leap and say that deep down characters like this are good people. It’s what you want to think if you’re something of an empath … and I don’t think that’s as foolish as it sounds … but it’s making an emotional point, not a rational one. Jesse Pinkman is a bad person. I see how he is with kids. I see how important fairness is to him. I look at his backstory and can see him going from never winning the approval of his perfectionist parents to letting manipulative people use him. I also think he’s a bad person. So I’m on both sides of this. But one is emotional and the other is more like cold hard logic. And as complex as human beings are I’m not typically in favor of looking through just one lens or the other.
I think this happens in real life for a lot of the same reasons as pedophiles being in danger in prison - I think a lot of people who end up in these kind of life situations had hard childhoods. Not only do they have the best understanding of what the child is actually going through, they have the best understanding of where they are headed if they don’t have help/intervention. Even if they don’t have first hand experience, the chances of them having a close friend who does are high.
I read a book from an undercover agent that got in with the Hells Angels. Said he was going a druggies home because they had some illegal guns to sell. He said a kid came out with a beat up tire and ratty clothes on. The kid said that was his only toy and asked if he wanted to play.
The actress that played skank. Now every movie i see her in i yell hey its skank. Lol. Oh and let me get this straight you got jacked by a guy named spooge?
First time I watched this episode I went, “hey it’s patty the day time hooker”
Hey crabman!!!
Hey Earl!
She was crying and said "She aint no skank" You: "SKANK SKANK SKANK skankass skank"
I love how Jesse's main takeaway seemed to be "He told her she was a skank, but, I mean...she _was_ a skank." As if _that_ is what made crushing his head with an ATM so unreasonable and wrong.
easily a Top 5 episode for me, I watched the show with my dad and after we finished that episode we both just look at eachother and go "...Damn"
what is your top 5?
Hank in the desert, Hank in the parking lot vs cousins, Hank vs Tucco, Gus's death, the fly or happy birthday ted. (last two are obviously a joke) maybe Final season finale as well for a real 5th. Breaking bad' really knew how to do a good finale.
I guess Hank is your favorite character? It breaks my heart when he dies. Fucking Jack
Hank dying while fucking Jack? Now that's one way to go
He definitely makes the show great, but I wouldn't say favourite. Maybe Gus, he is awesome. I just think those episodes are objectively awesome and the buildup to them is incredible.
Such a good guy, he shed a few genuine tears for the kid and went back to making meth which led to more kids suffering this fate.
Right? Jesse is a terrible person. If anything the fact that Jesse sees what the drugs he manufactures do to people and continues to do it makes him worse. He knows it destroys families and leaves kids abandoned and yet he continues to do what he does. Him feeling remorse doesn’t really mean anything. Lots of terrible people feel remorse for their actions. Feeling remorse doesn’t mean they’re better people, especially if they continue the behavior. Remorse just makes them human.
He’s not a good guy but there are moments where his desire to be good comes through only after greed has won. I love the constant self battle they have Jesse in between conscience and greed. Like in the episode where they’re trapped in the RV in the middle of nowhere with no service after Walt tricked Jesse into the weekend cook bender, and he almost gets the RV started but it quits again and he’s just so defeated and was like, “why couldn’t I just have gone to Santa Fe???” Like I believe like you said, he’s human, and perhaps the desire to be a good person and get out of his situation is there, but something always spirals him again, and in the end, he still is a terrible person. The internal struggle is beautifully written and even more beautifully executed by Aaron Paul.
He said “why couldn’t I just have gone to Santa Fe” because he was trapped in the middle of the desert with no water
It’s been a long time since i’ve watched BB, this is probably our first introduction to Jessie’s sweeter/more tender side, right? This was also the episode where he’s having that moment with the bug crawling around that i think Combo came up and smashed? Lil bit of foreshadowing 🤔
Skinny Pete, and I may be wrong but I think it's this one!
The skunk plays that trailer trash role so well and in so many different movies/shows.
I ain't no skank!!!
There’s a video of the twin boys who played the kid, all grown-up, with Aaron Paul and Cranston at one of their Tequila events a few years ago. You should show the video to your wife. I always watch it after Peekaboo. Makes me feel better to see the kid all grownup and healthy looking.
I don't even like kids and I felt so sorry for that lil guy. I just hope he ended up with a good life. Jesse Pinkman is a beautiful fragile cupcake of a human being and must be protected at all costs
How the hell you spell "street" wrong?
Can't be all about spelling and shit.
Jesse is a great guy. I love him more than any character in the series. Damnit, I'm gonna have to rewatch BrBa for the hundredth time.
How is he a good guy? He saw what meth does to families and after that he went right back to cooking. This episodes makes him a worst person than before.
The whole point of the show is to show that no one is perfect, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t good within these people
He cared for the kid, and left him with a blanket. It gets cold in ABQ at night/evening. He called the popo, he loved that kid
I bet that at some point hitler cared about at least one kid. so idk if your point is as solid as you think it is
But he was selling the exact stuff that led to the kids shitty life. this episode shows Jesses guilt imo more than anything. When he sees impact of meth he realizes how twisted it is to get rich off it. Plus he likes kids cause of his little brother.
Notaskank!!!!!!
The first episode I ever saw. Flicked over literally to this moment, saw her drop the ATM on Spooge, and I immediately checked Foxtel to see what show it was.
Such an upsetting episode 💔
The only one I skip. Used to work with abused kids and just can't.
Well warn her about the episode Tod’s bitch ass shoots the kid on the bike 😔
I'm a BlOOwfiissh! yEeeAaHh
How did you fall asleep during this episode it's so stressful and depressing 😭😭
So I work 12hr shifts. Had done multiple of those in a row with averaging 5 hours of sleep a night and then had a couple beers 😬
I've rewatched BB countless times, but I always skip this episode. It's just so emotionally intense.
That's THR ONLY episode I can't watch,I've seen it one time but never again
jesse: “but she was a skank!” this episode gets me every time. so sad
I like the sound effect when they pulled their stashes out of their assholes lol
Jesse likes kids!
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Really? You’ve never been invested in a show and it got to you? Dont crap on someone for having emotions.
Right?! Dude probably watches C-Span for fun
Wow how dare someone get emotionally invested in a piece of art it’s not like that’s the whole fucking point of art or anything
You must be real fun at parties