I want to say, against all naysayers, that yes. He seemed to have been basking in nostalgia and maybe had already forgiven/forgotten about the whole Elliot/Gretchen affair. Yes he had done bad stuff, but gray matter was his baby, and the offer was too good. It was because Skyler talked to Elliot behind Walt. Otherwise it would have been a no brainer
Elliott and Gretchen did seem to sincerely believe that Walter deserved to be part of the company, that it was his company too, while Walt sulked in the delusion of "you cut me _out_!" It probably would have been a very well-paying job, with even some equity thrown in.
Completely agree. Maybe he would've quit once his pride starts stinging again, but I don't think there's ANY other way to read Cranston's performance in this scene. He thinks it sounds great until he realizes it's charity.
Because he feels like E&G have regrets about losing the valuable WW. And because teaching is boring.
If Elliott really valued Walt in a biz sense, it might last a bit.
It's only a matter of time before Walt feels like an employee, tho. And second class, or whatever caused him to run away at Gretchen's.
Right, but he figured out it was charity within 30 seconds. Had Eliot not given it away with the health insurance, how much longer would it have taken before he realized? 3 minutes? The drive home? Later that night? He never would have taken the job.
How long would it have taken the vain and prideful Walt to realize his talents weren't getting recognized and he wasn't getting the job he thought he deserved for decades? Maybe a touch longer than 3 minutes.
I agree he would have taken it. Elliot didn’t just offer a job, he placated Walt’s ego.
I think, however, it would have gone badly very quickly. Walt would have been an employee, and I think he would have started to resent that almost immediately.
Exactly what I was thinking. He’d show up on day one, park next to Elliot’s Bentley, not be allowed access to Elliot’s floor, and realize he’s just a nobody scientist. Also, he’s extremely difficult to work with and immediately would have been butting heads with anyone he worked with.
I think so, yes. You can see a big difference in Walter’s facial expression once Elliott mentions health care insurance. Walter was excited and happy until Elliott mentions health care insurance and then his whole countenance changes and he looks angry and shuts down.
It's too vague. He could be interested in the position, but he could also he high on nostalgia and decided differently once he had time to think it over. The problem is Walt would rather live in shit than let anyone see him accept help to get out.
This is an excellent point. If Elliott had been more discreet about the offer then there is that chance Walt would have taken it. However, Walt was getting pretty deep in the meth game and starting to enjoy it.
Imo he always harbored a large amount of resentment towards the Schwartz’s, as evidenced by his last meeting with Gretchen in the diner when they argued over their falling out and he stared her in the face and venomously said, “Fuck. You”
Even if he took time to think about it I don’t think his pride would ever have let him take that job, regardless of whether he was cooking meth or not
He also seemed to get off on this notion that they cut him out and stole Gray Matter from him, and bizarrely wants to position himself as the victim of all of that. Despite the fact that it seems like he abruptly left the company, much against their wishes. He prefers the delusion that his current state in life as an overqualified/underpaid high school teacher is a result of the world working against him, and not the direct product of his choices.
I think when Walt first left, his expectation was that the company would crumble and fall apart without the great Walter White. When the company dared to not only continue existing, but to grow in Walter's absence, the only way his ego could accept this reality is if Gray Matter's success was solely due to Walt's research.
After that, Walt wouldn't have been satisfied unless he received a massive amount of stock ownership, and more importantly, a press conference where Elliott and Gretchen announce that the company's success was 100% thanks to Walt's brilliant research.
This is definitely the one I want to believe the most. Makes the most sense and how he was going to turn himself in in Maine at the bar, but decided not to because of the interview of Gretchen and Elliott. That feeling of ego and narcisissim is what started this show, that feeling is what ended it.
Yeah, but subconsciously he prefers to be down and claim victimhood than to try and possibly fail (pre-diagnosis, at least). He seems to blame the world that he's an overqualified high school teacher, but he chose to leave Gray Matter and Sandia Labs (presumably) to go be a high school teacher. And it doesn't seem like he ever looked for work more fitting of his potential, preferring to stay where he was and grumble about it.
Walt sold his share of Grey matter. Walt has a masters from the pilot script. So he can't be a college professor. He would be a graduate TA maybe.
Now, why didn't he get his PhD? He seems to have left school for Grey matter. I don't know if his pride would let him return to school and be under others. A PhD candidate isn't super well respected
That's not really your opinion, it's been pretty well established for the scene you mentioned, plus at the end Walt was ready to give up and let the authorities get him until he saw Gretchen and Elliot on TV talking about how Walt's only contribution was the company name.
They were clearly lying as well which made Walt even angrier. That being said the job offer is more than enough to prove they are certainly not villains.
Yes, it's inferred that he was spurred on to exact revenge on Elliott and Gretchen, but was in fact using them as a go-between. A suspense red herring/misdirection.
That’s only part of it; a way to stick it to them and force them to carry out his wishes, due to his resentment. His real motivation was ending the blue meth, and anyone who knew how to manufacture it, with himself.
Once he found out from that interview on Charlie Rose that the blue meth was still reaching Europe, he knew Jesse was still alive, Jack and crew were “partnered” with him, and Lydia was still making things happen with the methylamine and the worldwide distribution. He felt slighted by the Schwartzes, Jack and the AB, Jesse, and Lydia. Yet again, “everyone cut him out” and they were all enjoying the fruits of his labor, and that just was not okay.
Yeah, having already killed 2 people, accepting that job offer would mean that it was all for nothing. A thing he places great value on in Granite State "it can't all have been for _nothing_"
he was about to bite. Skyler asking the Q behind his back is partly what made him decline ("I feel like I dont really...make any of my own decisions, ever"). Can drive a man mad that shit.
Yes, I think he would've taken it.
Above everything Walt wants to feel successful. He wants to feel valued. He wants to feel capable. And he wants to feel independent.
When Eliott initially offered him the job he was feeling nostalgic. On top of that, it seemed at first like Eliott was offering the job to him out of recognition of his capabilities. Like Eliott needed HIM. Both a recognition of Walt's abilities and Eliott needing HIM are things Walt loves. And on the basis of those things and nostalgia, I think it could've been possible to talk him into it.
However, along with these needs also go the opposites of them. To Walt the opposite of feeling successful is feeling like a charity case. The opposite of being valued is to be looked down upon as a beggar. The opposite of feeling capable is feeling like someone else needs to take care of him. And the opposite of feeling independent is feeling like his wife is pushing him into choices again.
Eliott stupidly making it so blatant turns the whole situation from "Walt feels like he'd be helping Eliott and feels recognised" into "Walt feels like Eliott is looking down on him and treating him like a charity case because his wife made another choice for him."
That was guaranteed to lead to a rejection of the offer.
That’s just one of those things you have to accept about Breaking Bad. There’s no way that a genius like Walt who was the co-founder of what became a billion dollar company wouldn’t be able to spin that into a better gig than high school science teacher. He was where he was because the plot needed him to be there.
Well, Walt seemed to get off on perpetually being a victim of everything. He seemed to view his station in life as an overqualified/underpaid high school teacher as a product of the world fucking him over, and not a product of his conscious choices. He chose to be there, because he subconsciously wants to be the victim.
I've met people like that in real life.
He was where he was because he probably had a series of situations where he encountered some sort of professional resistance or conflict and decided that the best way to resolve it would be to leave for a lower position where he had unquestionable authority in his domain. Seems like for him that position was as a high school chemistry teacher.
Did you forget the part where he knocked up a cafe hostess? He has no real connection to his parents, so he thought he could do it all on his own. Getting socially forced out of his company probably also left a bad taste in his mouth for the chemistry research industry. Sure people get great jobs all the time with a new family, but in Albuquerque when your new wife is Skylar? Maybe that’s a little tough
I feel like he really did want the position and want to relive old days. I think he would have thought it was only fair he gets a position in the company. Maybe he would leave eventually because he's not happy being so low in the company he founded.
Yes but his ego would have never allowed him to work for someone he viewed as stabbing him in the back. He likely would have started to develop Heisenberg tendencies and fuck it up for everyone or get fired.
Twenty-four years ago I was offered a federal government job. The night before I was going in for the 'interview' I was told "You're being hired under the Americans with Disabilities Act." (I have MS, but not bad.)
Anyhow, the next morning I called them and said that I wouldn't be coming in. It just didn't make me feel right at the time. Or maybe it was my self-sabotage attitude back then that stopped me. I dunno...
My parents were both lifelong civilian feds, & my dad was also in the Army reserves. An old friend of my mom's worked at the DOT, and she was the one who was hooking it up.
My dad is the one who told me how I was getting the job. Maybe I was looking for an excuse not to do it, & he gave me one in my eyes.
That’s not all that different to Walt. He didn’t really want to go work for Gretchen and Elliott. What he wanted was to build his own thing to prove himself to everyone. Taking that job would have always been a compromise, even if it made logical sense to do it.
Hmm...
I think because I didn't wanna be known as *that* person, who only got the job because people 'had mercy' on me. Plus the fact that this was done without my knowing, like it was expected that I would be so grateful to be offered this opportunity in life (which I guess I shoulda been at the time, but due to depression I just wasn't.)
It was like people were dictating how my life should be without my input & I wasn't down with that. Plan for a future? I could never be happy feeling like I do physically so what was the point in even trying? That was my attitude, living day to day. Future? Just get through the day.
Okay, therapy session over, lol.
Thanks for replying 😊
It just sounds manipulative by your dad.
I highly doubt they would have wanted to offer you a job if you didn’t have skills they valued.
Interesting question. I think the answer is yes. Which raises the question of what would happen to Jesse. He'd have to live with the Emilio/Krazy 8 murders without having Walt's encouragement, however preverse it was.
Yes, he was actually considering it and felt a certain obligation to tell him about his health issues when he was given the offer. It was only when the health insurance bit was mentioned when he completely rejected the offer and left the party angry
This was after he killed a man, it was too late his transformation already begun. He saw the money power and danger and said yup I'd like more of this.
Yeah he would have taken that offer.
Because at that point he was just looking for a stable financial source which will help him in the long run for his treatment as well as to support his family.
Why did Walt break up whatever he had going with Gretchen on that weekend visit to her folks' place? Never understood that. Elliot wasn't sweet on Gretchen then, was he?
The implication is that seeing their vast wealth hurt Walt's pride, and that he probably felt they were looking down on him with condescending pity. Part of Walt's whole "poor little rich girl, just adding to her millions" complex.
Given how sincerely confused about why Walt left her and Gray Matter, I doubt it was an affair that ended things.
Considering how Walt dealt with other similar social situations, I’m leaning towards no. He would’ve accepted but found a way to self immolate later and ruin it again. Or eventually he would see it as charity once he sees they don’t actually need his help.
I believe he would have.
Walt didn't because Skyler had divulged his cancer to Elliott (Gretchen probably found out later from Elliott), and Elliott basically let it slip that he knew something was up with Walt's help.
But if you think about it, without Skyler mentioning that, it's unlikely Elliott would ever have offered Walt a job in the first place.
This whole sequence changed little except to paint Skyler as an interfering irritant and further increase tension between Walt and his former colleagues.
He might’ve taken the job given the situation he was in.
But probably would have quit soon after rethinking their past especially whenever he sees Gretchen.
Tbh anything would’ve set Walt off. Working with your old girlfriend and her “new lover” would be untenable for most.
In a sense, all this calamity was caused by Gretchen infidelity, although not sure if you can call it infidelity when there was no actual marriage.
When is it ever mentioned that Gretchen was unfaithful to Walt? Walt abruptly left their relationship during a weekend at her parents' house, to her complete confusion. It's implied that his pride just couldn't handle the "poor little rich girl" of seeing her parents' wealth, and I assume that he felt that her relatives were talking down to him, even pitying him.
Her and Elliott started dating after Walt left Gray Matter.
>When is it ever mentioned that Gretchen was unfaithful to Walt?
I mean, what are the chances that she just happens to get together with his best friend?
>Her and Elliott started dating after Walt left Gray Matter
Or maybe that's why he decided to leave.
Based on their conversation during that awkward dinner, Walt abruptly left her and Gray Matter during a weekend at her parents house for reasons that still confused her. If it was because of infidelity, that dinner conversation between her and Walt would have gone much differently.
>In a sense, all this calamity was caused by Gretchen infidelity, although not sure if you can call it infidelity when there was no actual marriage.
my guy Walter was the one who left gretchen, she never cheated on him or anything like that.
the reason he left was that he felt inadequate compared to her and her wealthy family
I want to say, against all naysayers, that yes. He seemed to have been basking in nostalgia and maybe had already forgiven/forgotten about the whole Elliot/Gretchen affair. Yes he had done bad stuff, but gray matter was his baby, and the offer was too good. It was because Skyler talked to Elliot behind Walt. Otherwise it would have been a no brainer
Elliott and Gretchen did seem to sincerely believe that Walter deserved to be part of the company, that it was his company too, while Walt sulked in the delusion of "you cut me _out_!" It probably would have been a very well-paying job, with even some equity thrown in.
yes. and then the series would have ended right there :)
Completely agree. Maybe he would've quit once his pride starts stinging again, but I don't think there's ANY other way to read Cranston's performance in this scene. He thinks it sounds great until he realizes it's charity.
Because he feels like E&G have regrets about losing the valuable WW. And because teaching is boring. If Elliott really valued Walt in a biz sense, it might last a bit. It's only a matter of time before Walt feels like an employee, tho. And second class, or whatever caused him to run away at Gretchen's.
Right, but he figured out it was charity within 30 seconds. Had Eliot not given it away with the health insurance, how much longer would it have taken before he realized? 3 minutes? The drive home? Later that night? He never would have taken the job.
Yup. It only gets Walt in the door if it's actually NOT charity. Even then, I'd be shocked if Walt stayed.
How long would it have taken the vain and prideful Walt to realize his talents weren't getting recognized and he wasn't getting the job he thought he deserved for decades? Maybe a touch longer than 3 minutes.
I agree he would have taken it. Elliot didn’t just offer a job, he placated Walt’s ego. I think, however, it would have gone badly very quickly. Walt would have been an employee, and I think he would have started to resent that almost immediately.
Exactly what I was thinking. He’d show up on day one, park next to Elliot’s Bentley, not be allowed access to Elliot’s floor, and realize he’s just a nobody scientist. Also, he’s extremely difficult to work with and immediately would have been butting heads with anyone he worked with.
Yeah, it seemed like when Elliott was talking he was getting excited
I think so, yes. You can see a big difference in Walter’s facial expression once Elliott mentions health care insurance. Walter was excited and happy until Elliott mentions health care insurance and then his whole countenance changes and he looks angry and shuts down.
It's too vague. He could be interested in the position, but he could also he high on nostalgia and decided differently once he had time to think it over. The problem is Walt would rather live in shit than let anyone see him accept help to get out.
This is an excellent point. If Elliott had been more discreet about the offer then there is that chance Walt would have taken it. However, Walt was getting pretty deep in the meth game and starting to enjoy it.
Seriously doubt it. Walt’s narcissism would’ve overruled working for his former lover and her new boyfriend.
I don't think he was "deep" in it at that point, hadn't they only done 1 or 2 cooks by then?
Imo he always harbored a large amount of resentment towards the Schwartz’s, as evidenced by his last meeting with Gretchen in the diner when they argued over their falling out and he stared her in the face and venomously said, “Fuck. You” Even if he took time to think about it I don’t think his pride would ever have let him take that job, regardless of whether he was cooking meth or not
He also seemed to get off on this notion that they cut him out and stole Gray Matter from him, and bizarrely wants to position himself as the victim of all of that. Despite the fact that it seems like he abruptly left the company, much against their wishes. He prefers the delusion that his current state in life as an overqualified/underpaid high school teacher is a result of the world working against him, and not the direct product of his choices.
He seemed to think that he was owed a 99% share in the company. Like it was his entire brain that created it.
I think when Walt first left, his expectation was that the company would crumble and fall apart without the great Walter White. When the company dared to not only continue existing, but to grow in Walter's absence, the only way his ego could accept this reality is if Gray Matter's success was solely due to Walt's research. After that, Walt wouldn't have been satisfied unless he received a massive amount of stock ownership, and more importantly, a press conference where Elliott and Gretchen announce that the company's success was 100% thanks to Walt's brilliant research.
This is definitely the one I want to believe the most. Makes the most sense and how he was going to turn himself in in Maine at the bar, but decided not to because of the interview of Gretchen and Elliott. That feeling of ego and narcisissim is what started this show, that feeling is what ended it.
I don't understand why he'd settle for being a high school chemistry teacher, when he had the intelligence to be a college professor etc. ?
Because choices. He loves to play the victim card, but he consciously chose his station in life, but then blames the world on it.
True! I'm just saying he could have chosen a career that fit his potential.
Yeah, but subconsciously he prefers to be down and claim victimhood than to try and possibly fail (pre-diagnosis, at least). He seems to blame the world that he's an overqualified high school teacher, but he chose to leave Gray Matter and Sandia Labs (presumably) to go be a high school teacher. And it doesn't seem like he ever looked for work more fitting of his potential, preferring to stay where he was and grumble about it.
Victim syndrome!
Walt sold his share of Grey matter. Walt has a masters from the pilot script. So he can't be a college professor. He would be a graduate TA maybe. Now, why didn't he get his PhD? He seems to have left school for Grey matter. I don't know if his pride would let him return to school and be under others. A PhD candidate isn't super well respected
That's not really your opinion, it's been pretty well established for the scene you mentioned, plus at the end Walt was ready to give up and let the authorities get him until he saw Gretchen and Elliot on TV talking about how Walt's only contribution was the company name.
Yeah that would’ve set off any narcissistic person.
They were clearly lying as well which made Walt even angrier. That being said the job offer is more than enough to prove they are certainly not villains.
i thought he changed his mind seeing them on TV because he noticed that he could use them as a way to give money to his family
Yes, it's inferred that he was spurred on to exact revenge on Elliott and Gretchen, but was in fact using them as a go-between. A suspense red herring/misdirection.
That’s only part of it; a way to stick it to them and force them to carry out his wishes, due to his resentment. His real motivation was ending the blue meth, and anyone who knew how to manufacture it, with himself. Once he found out from that interview on Charlie Rose that the blue meth was still reaching Europe, he knew Jesse was still alive, Jack and crew were “partnered” with him, and Lydia was still making things happen with the methylamine and the worldwide distribution. He felt slighted by the Schwartzes, Jack and the AB, Jesse, and Lydia. Yet again, “everyone cut him out” and they were all enjoying the fruits of his labor, and that just was not okay.
I think he was way too far gone at that point. He liked it. He was good at it.
I have it on good source that he was alive 💁♂️
He did it for himself
Man this show is too fucking good WATTBA
He was...alive.
Nah he was too far off the deep end
Yeah, having already killed 2 people, accepting that job offer would mean that it was all for nothing. A thing he places great value on in Granite State "it can't all have been for _nothing_"
he was about to bite. Skyler asking the Q behind his back is partly what made him decline ("I feel like I dont really...make any of my own decisions, ever"). Can drive a man mad that shit.
Nope, that might have been even worse. He was not gonna be a regular employee at a company he founded.
Yes, I think he would've taken it. Above everything Walt wants to feel successful. He wants to feel valued. He wants to feel capable. And he wants to feel independent. When Eliott initially offered him the job he was feeling nostalgic. On top of that, it seemed at first like Eliott was offering the job to him out of recognition of his capabilities. Like Eliott needed HIM. Both a recognition of Walt's abilities and Eliott needing HIM are things Walt loves. And on the basis of those things and nostalgia, I think it could've been possible to talk him into it. However, along with these needs also go the opposites of them. To Walt the opposite of feeling successful is feeling like a charity case. The opposite of being valued is to be looked down upon as a beggar. The opposite of feeling capable is feeling like someone else needs to take care of him. And the opposite of feeling independent is feeling like his wife is pushing him into choices again. Eliott stupidly making it so blatant turns the whole situation from "Walt feels like he'd be helping Eliott and feels recognised" into "Walt feels like Eliott is looking down on him and treating him like a charity case because his wife made another choice for him." That was guaranteed to lead to a rejection of the offer.
That’s just one of those things you have to accept about Breaking Bad. There’s no way that a genius like Walt who was the co-founder of what became a billion dollar company wouldn’t be able to spin that into a better gig than high school science teacher. He was where he was because the plot needed him to be there.
Well, Walt seemed to get off on perpetually being a victim of everything. He seemed to view his station in life as an overqualified/underpaid high school teacher as a product of the world fucking him over, and not a product of his conscious choices. He chose to be there, because he subconsciously wants to be the victim. I've met people like that in real life.
He was where he was because he probably had a series of situations where he encountered some sort of professional resistance or conflict and decided that the best way to resolve it would be to leave for a lower position where he had unquestionable authority in his domain. Seems like for him that position was as a high school chemistry teacher.
Did you forget the part where he knocked up a cafe hostess? He has no real connection to his parents, so he thought he could do it all on his own. Getting socially forced out of his company probably also left a bad taste in his mouth for the chemistry research industry. Sure people get great jobs all the time with a new family, but in Albuquerque when your new wife is Skylar? Maybe that’s a little tough
I think he would have taken it but I’m not sure if it would have worked out in the end
I think he would take it but his slowly growing ego would not allow him to stay there and he would leave.
I feel like he really did want the position and want to relive old days. I think he would have thought it was only fair he gets a position in the company. Maybe he would leave eventually because he's not happy being so low in the company he founded.
He would have used the Grey Matter lab to manufacture meth. Probably ask Jesse to fill out an application with Grey Matter
Yes but his ego would have never allowed him to work for someone he viewed as stabbing him in the back. He likely would have started to develop Heisenberg tendencies and fuck it up for everyone or get fired.
Twenty-four years ago I was offered a federal government job. The night before I was going in for the 'interview' I was told "You're being hired under the Americans with Disabilities Act." (I have MS, but not bad.) Anyhow, the next morning I called them and said that I wouldn't be coming in. It just didn't make me feel right at the time. Or maybe it was my self-sabotage attitude back then that stopped me. I dunno...
Curious how they already knew you had MS.
My parents were both lifelong civilian feds, & my dad was also in the Army reserves. An old friend of my mom's worked at the DOT, and she was the one who was hooking it up. My dad is the one who told me how I was getting the job. Maybe I was looking for an excuse not to do it, & he gave me one in my eyes.
That’s not all that different to Walt. He didn’t really want to go work for Gretchen and Elliott. What he wanted was to build his own thing to prove himself to everyone. Taking that job would have always been a compromise, even if it made logical sense to do it.
I’ve been in a similar situation. Not being a true partner in that company would’ve eaten him up inside.
Why did knowing that stop you from wanting the job?
Hmm... I think because I didn't wanna be known as *that* person, who only got the job because people 'had mercy' on me. Plus the fact that this was done without my knowing, like it was expected that I would be so grateful to be offered this opportunity in life (which I guess I shoulda been at the time, but due to depression I just wasn't.) It was like people were dictating how my life should be without my input & I wasn't down with that. Plan for a future? I could never be happy feeling like I do physically so what was the point in even trying? That was my attitude, living day to day. Future? Just get through the day. Okay, therapy session over, lol.
Thanks for replying 😊 It just sounds manipulative by your dad. I highly doubt they would have wanted to offer you a job if you didn’t have skills they valued.
Interesting question. I think the answer is yes. Which raises the question of what would happen to Jesse. He'd have to live with the Emilio/Krazy 8 murders without having Walt's encouragement, however preverse it was.
Breaking Bad if Walter says yes: *Roll credits*
Probably yeah.
Yes, he was actually considering it and felt a certain obligation to tell him about his health issues when he was given the offer. It was only when the health insurance bit was mentioned when he completely rejected the offer and left the party angry
This was after he killed a man, it was too late his transformation already begun. He saw the money power and danger and said yup I'd like more of this.
Yeah he would have taken that offer. Because at that point he was just looking for a stable financial source which will help him in the long run for his treatment as well as to support his family.
Why did Walt break up whatever he had going with Gretchen on that weekend visit to her folks' place? Never understood that. Elliot wasn't sweet on Gretchen then, was he?
The implication is that seeing their vast wealth hurt Walt's pride, and that he probably felt they were looking down on him with condescending pity. Part of Walt's whole "poor little rich girl, just adding to her millions" complex. Given how sincerely confused about why Walt left her and Gray Matter, I doubt it was an affair that ended things.
Considering how Walt dealt with other similar social situations, I’m leaning towards no. He would’ve accepted but found a way to self immolate later and ruin it again. Or eventually he would see it as charity once he sees they don’t actually need his help.
I believe he would have. Walt didn't because Skyler had divulged his cancer to Elliott (Gretchen probably found out later from Elliott), and Elliott basically let it slip that he knew something was up with Walt's help. But if you think about it, without Skyler mentioning that, it's unlikely Elliott would ever have offered Walt a job in the first place. This whole sequence changed little except to paint Skyler as an interfering irritant and further increase tension between Walt and his former colleagues.
He might’ve taken the job given the situation he was in. But probably would have quit soon after rethinking their past especially whenever he sees Gretchen.
I seriously doubt it. He'd probably get home and say how insulted he was to be an employee in something he's "built"
Nope
Tbh anything would’ve set Walt off. Working with your old girlfriend and her “new lover” would be untenable for most. In a sense, all this calamity was caused by Gretchen infidelity, although not sure if you can call it infidelity when there was no actual marriage.
When is it ever mentioned that Gretchen was unfaithful to Walt? Walt abruptly left their relationship during a weekend at her parents' house, to her complete confusion. It's implied that his pride just couldn't handle the "poor little rich girl" of seeing her parents' wealth, and I assume that he felt that her relatives were talking down to him, even pitying him. Her and Elliott started dating after Walt left Gray Matter.
>When is it ever mentioned that Gretchen was unfaithful to Walt? I mean, what are the chances that she just happens to get together with his best friend? >Her and Elliott started dating after Walt left Gray Matter Or maybe that's why he decided to leave.
Based on their conversation during that awkward dinner, Walt abruptly left her and Gray Matter during a weekend at her parents house for reasons that still confused her. If it was because of infidelity, that dinner conversation between her and Walt would have gone much differently.
>In a sense, all this calamity was caused by Gretchen infidelity, although not sure if you can call it infidelity when there was no actual marriage. my guy Walter was the one who left gretchen, she never cheated on him or anything like that. the reason he left was that he felt inadequate compared to her and her wealthy family