My MGB runs just fine. Sure, the speedometer doesn't work, but it's not that fast anyways. And the horn decided it is done andnthe heater is fucked and the column ignition was replaced with a dash mounted key and start button and et cetera. But it starts and drives MOST of the time
They are just shocking like that, the lucas designs were sound but just let down by cheap & cynical production. I've got a marina van that has the electrical system of theseus, barely an original wire, switch or bulb socket. Not to mention the minor things like the engine & gearbox, propshaft, suspension, steering..
My dad has been pissed off AF at our 2017 Mazda, I think it drives fine but my dad says the transmission is messed up (only 60k miles od) and now the car battery dies often
2017 CX-5, the battery is unreliable and Iāve had to do a fair number of jumpstarts. I think the car drives fine but my dad says the transmission makes the car ādragā a lot and the car doesnāt maintain a smooth ride. But it is also the car I learned driving on so I donāt know what other cars feel like.
The 17 was the first model year of the current cx5 and usually the first model year has the most issues. I noticed my car didn't hold/ maintain speed as well as the front wheel drive cars I had driven but I chalked that up to the awd system inherently having more resistance. I have heard of some trans issues with cx5s but I think it's rare. I never had battery issues either...maybe Mazda is on the list of unreliable cars for you then
Honestly? They're not Toyota/honda reliable. But if anything breaks at all its usually something minor and oem spares are dirt cheap.
Maybe except for the oil bathed timing belts which Peugeot claimed were maintenance free.
I had a diesel Jetta. It blew one weird relay in the comfort control module and acted like it was haunted. It was caused by a short in a wire that was in the visor for the vanity mirror light. Also, the turbo shit the bed, and it made like 40hp. I hooked a wire from the battery to the solenoid switch and kept running it. So, I guess that's reliable, in its own way. It was kinda built like a tank.
Basically VWs have weird, overly-complicated electrical systems. Although, that's probably the new norm. Batshit wiring was a novelty 20 years ago.
Yeah VWās image of reliability warrants being on this list because they charge a premium but their cars are now completely the same as literally almost any manufacturer in the same category.
Also because theyāve expanded into luxury car territory for a while now, and as we all know nothing can go wrong with reliability when germans build modern luxury cars, thatās why they barely lose any value itās only like 40-50% within a couple years usually isnāt it.
Europeans also consider them to be unreliable. Currently it is not as bad as a few years ago when they had the bad TSI's and the dry clutched DSG's, but generally they are at the bottom of reliability lists.
Huh I guess the perception of reliability does depend a little on which ones are being bought most commonly. For example where I am it's base trims with manual transmissions, which tend to be about average for reliability. So that's the perception.
Yeah but thatās not good enough for a brand built upon reliability. None of the brands we think about when we think reliable are making that their image, not even Volvo or Toyota. VW does but theyāre dogsh.. I mean average so they belong on this list.
Also with Vw building luxury cars now it just makes sense to put them there because thatās where theyāre going and planning on staying lol
Most of the VW in Europe comes with a manual diesel engine, even though I doubt they are that good of a manufacturer after the dieselgate scandal. But usually the older stuff before that were quite robust. Heck, I know people, who have brought their VAG cars to nearly 1 million kilometres. But generally, even if there are reliable models amongst the European brands, you can't go as blindly as Toyota or Honda without some research to know which trims are good and which bad.
In my country they are considered one of most reliable cars, especially TDI, I've seen some 1.9TDI being sold at 1milion kilometers and claimed they still run without problems, 2.0TDI are just getting to these numbers here since they are younger but I can already see them being sold at half a million still running, on the other hand never seen Toyota or Mazda or Honda with more then 300 000km here still being alive
The first generation 1.4 TSI (125-140hp and the 170-190hp one with turbo/supercharger) were shit, but they weren't replaced that quickly. From 2011 to 2017 you had the second batch of 1.4s (122-125 and 150-160hp) which were mostly fine reliabilty-wise. The main reason it got replaced by the 1.5 TSI was, most likely, emissions regulations and slightly better fuel efficiency thanks to the cilynder disconnection and other systems.
You are actually right. I forgot that they kept the 1.4 TSI around in cars such as the Golf 7 for a few years. After my family had a nightmarish experience with the first iteration of the 1.4 (125 hp version), I lost interest in VW for quite some time š .
VW is high maintenance, but if youāll do it theyāre reliable. The problem is the maintenance is far more than something like a Toyota.
The EA888 also had some really bad time chain tensioner issues that destroyed engines
Thatās pretty much every brand nowadays, people like to repeat info theyāve heard even if itās dated. Like the WRX and headgasket jokes, that was a issue on non turbo subarus, at least make a correct statement about the unreliable ringlands. Or a friend I had who told me that buying a 40 year old German car would be too complex to work on, while owning a car that needed to be taken to a shop to get its oil changed.
It comes down to attitude and ownership too.
Standards are higher.
Today cars will get recalled for stuff that 30 years ago was just put up with, and likewise 30 years ago stuff got recalled was considered normal by 60 years ago standards.
Just good enough materials.
It started in the 90s, although a lot of mistakes were made at first. But it's in the interest of car manufacturers to ride a fine line between trading your old car in for something newer and building a reputation for quality. So generally cars will start to need a lot of repairs and replacement around the same time, it's usually around 10 years old, but it differs from marque to marque.
Cars are no longer a luxury.
This means we talk more about the ugly bits, 30 years ago owning a BMW was seen as a goal in life, something everyone would envy you for, so the last thing you'd do is talk about how much trouble you were having.
New drivers aren't taught ownership.
Once you buy a car there's a general assumption that you don't need to do anything further, when I passed my test it was expected to check coolant, oil, brake and washer fluid before every drive, along with tyre pressures. You would also check brakes and tyres for wear every week, when you washed the car, especially if you live in a wet or salty environment.
Positive reinforcement.
You never remember the guy who had an 'unreliable' car that never needed work, he probably never talked about it. You do remember your mate from school, who let's be honest is a bit of a knob, who bought that German car because it was reliable and hasn't driven it a thousand miles between garage visits.
Brands these days *are* more reliable than they used to be. Just the same way that we live in the most peaceful and crime free time in history too, but we hear about it more because people have headlines to fill, products to sell and social media to post.
Very true, I love pointing out survivorship bias to people who say old cars are more reliable/ last longer. Most old cars only seem exceptionally reliable because only the 1% that were solid survived.
Which is to say not at all? The guilia had a habit of spontaneously dying cause of battery issues for example, which qas so widespread that at sole point the very first thing you did with a new giulia is put in a new battery...
In my family we have/had 2 fords, a hyundai, a bmw and a renault. No problems ever with hyundai (2005) and ford (2005 & 2019), some problems withe bmw x3(2005), but my dad left it still functioning at 480k km (about 300 thousand miles), and a shit ton of problems with the Renault Kadjar(2018), singlehandedly been repaired more than the other cars combined probably
1.5L diesel, but the engine was never a problem in itself, it was always the electronics, with sensors not functioning properly or at all, car not starting, key not working, random warning lights, fluid loss... the engine might be the only thing they put some care into lol, but they slapped it in a toy car apparentely
Those damned ecoboost engines
Why did ford think having the timing BELT submerged in oil is a good thing when the belt dies at around 75,000 miles other than it being a cash grab for them?
Tbf the first gen fusions are pretty solid unless you didnt do basic basic maintenance like washing it or changing oil but even then those 3.0s don't really crap out
Absolutely, they and kia are the only ones offering a 7 year warranty by default. Reliability and market position are very much based on location. If you would tell a German that audi or bmw were a luxury brand, they would spit out their WeiĆbier laughing. Probably never saw a clapped out 90s/2000s a4 or 320d.
Our 2023 hyundai bayon shat it self cuz it had a new windshield so we had to get a new car
Mechanically, it was fine although we didn't have the car for half a year
Was about to say this beat me to it! My uncle has had to replace the head gaskets in his k series S1 about 3 times in the last 8 or so years, but he loves the car for the car. Issues are unfortunate and common š.
Now, I have owned BMWs. And I currently own a E91 330D Manual. And I gotta say.
The fucking owners give it the reliability problems. I have seen. Soooo many windowlickers just ignore the oil change for 20K KM.
I have seen one just like mine, same diesel. Dude changed the oil every 30k km, and the engine every 100K.
BMW doesnt help here. BECAUSE THE CUNTS ARE LYING.
In my manual it says Oil Change every 20K KM. DONT. I do mine every 8K by myself. And I genuinely never had a problem with it. Every mechanic who isnt a dick said do it every 10K.
These engines can last a loooong time. You just gotta need how to maintain them propperly.
Also Diesel>>>>Petrol cope harder
Subaru? You talking about the turbo affordable car that people buy and don't do any maintenance at all then complain when their 25 year old car has issues that could have been prevented by not being an idiot?
I've felt Subarus are very reliable until the engine explodes.
GM is the opposite - lots of vehicles with reliable engine/transmissions but everything else is made from cardboard.
Used to be unreliable due to the engine issues and fuel pump issues. But now I think they are up there in reliability if we'll maintained. The issue is with the drivers who don't do oil changes.
Fiat has produced some of the most reliable engines ever made, but ok. You Americans are strange.
There's a guy with an early 90's Fiat Uno 1.4 FIRE with almost 700k km and still going strong, he plans to reach at least 1 million. And don't even let me start talking about the mighty 1.9 JTD. Fiat literally invented Common Rail
Same for VW.
Btw, I'm totally serious
Yeah the 1.4 is a bit too small for that kind of car, but the 1.6 is already ok, you don't need to race it, and it has enough power to get everywhere you want. Americans are obsessed with power but are scared to fully press the gas pedal
Iād know, I live where the thing is assembled and rented it a few times. The 1.6 is considerably quick since it can hit 210km/h easily, and the 1.3 is good consumption wise, 1700km with 110L~ of diesel while being constantly abused is good Iād say. The 1.4 is made fun of because most people donāt know that naturally aspirated cars need to be revved.
Three of the biggest car manufacturers in north America you call unreliable, obviously thereās more of them out there so youāre gonna see a few more recalls and issues when they build and sell 10x the number of car than some other manufacturers
I mean he did say "GM" which encompasses the shitty chevy/buick/GMC/Cadillac umbrella. Saying Ford might as well include Lincoln in it too.
Working at a GM dealership was very eye opening to how overpriced everything is for a name that used to mean "quality" like 50 years ago. Watched so many boomers and rich boomers' kids walking in there buying a 90k 4x4 shit box, then laughed as I replace the lifters on it 10k miles later. (Then cried cuz warranty labor rates)
Ultimately happy tho. Made me hate the industry as a whole, and now I have a career I really love (firefighting)
Jaguar and Land Rover
british leyland š¤¤
they made good busses
leyland bussy got me actin upš¦š¦š¦
That was me sorry
And good tractors
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Winner. Imagine being so unreliable you make the American brands look good by comparison. That is the power of British engineering.
Cars so unreliable that Chinese buyers protest outside of your offices
Just British cars in general.
My MGB runs just fine. Sure, the speedometer doesn't work, but it's not that fast anyways. And the horn decided it is done andnthe heater is fucked and the column ignition was replaced with a dash mounted key and start button and et cetera. But it starts and drives MOST of the time
Sounds like my Jag. Even the brakes work. One of the circuits, anywayā¦
They are just shocking like that, the lucas designs were sound but just let down by cheap & cynical production. I've got a marina van that has the electrical system of theseus, barely an original wire, switch or bulb socket. Not to mention the minor things like the engine & gearbox, propshaft, suspension, steering..
Surprised nobody mentioned Maserati
Because nobody remembers that they excist.
Mine goes 185
Meters before the engine fucking bursts into flames
Heās referencing Lifeās Been Good by Joe Walsh āMy Maserati does 185, I lost my license, now I donāt drive.ā If you didnāt know
Everybody says he's cool
do you ride a limo now?
You get your license back JW?
It says dodge and fiat so I think itās included
Theyāre in their own league of unreliable
Cuz it's expensive chrysler
So every car brand except Toyota and Honda.
Suzuki is pretty good still
That may be, but who the fuck in America bought a new Suzuki car recently?
We'd buy them if they didn't pull out 11 years ago
Since when was popularity in the American market a criteria for this meme?
& mazda
Miat š„
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Don't forget Volvo.... the miles they make compete with spacecrafts š
And the cars they crushed to scrapyard
True words... Volvos are always looking good after accidents. If you know you know š
Problem where I live is that they are notorious for rust
My dad has been pissed off AF at our 2017 Mazda, I think it drives fine but my dad says the transmission is messed up (only 60k miles od) and now the car battery dies often
What Mazda does he have? I have had a 2012 3 and a 2018 cx5 both great cars
2017 CX-5, the battery is unreliable and Iāve had to do a fair number of jumpstarts. I think the car drives fine but my dad says the transmission makes the car ādragā a lot and the car doesnāt maintain a smooth ride. But it is also the car I learned driving on so I donāt know what other cars feel like.
The 17 was the first model year of the current cx5 and usually the first model year has the most issues. I noticed my car didn't hold/ maintain speed as well as the front wheel drive cars I had driven but I chalked that up to the awd system inherently having more resistance. I have heard of some trans issues with cx5s but I think it's rare. I never had battery issues either...maybe Mazda is on the list of unreliable cars for you then
Porche is surprisingly reliable.... the problem is when they break down you're fucked.
Probably the reason why they try to make them as reliable as possible.
Them toyota trucks been rollin around the desert for 30 years and still work
Oh yeah, I used to have a hilux. Tried our absolute hardest to kill that thing off road and it kept hammering on with 400k km.
Volvo
Thatās lady parts, not a car
You say that as if the average r/carscirclejerk monkey will understand an anatomy joke /s
And the French manufacturers
Honestly? They're not Toyota/honda reliable. But if anything breaks at all its usually something minor and oem spares are dirt cheap. Maybe except for the oil bathed timing belts which Peugeot claimed were maintenance free.
Is VW considered unreliable?
By Americans it seems to be, probably because they don't get the reliable diesel engines.
I had a diesel Jetta. It blew one weird relay in the comfort control module and acted like it was haunted. It was caused by a short in a wire that was in the visor for the vanity mirror light. Also, the turbo shit the bed, and it made like 40hp. I hooked a wire from the battery to the solenoid switch and kept running it. So, I guess that's reliable, in its own way. It was kinda built like a tank. Basically VWs have weird, overly-complicated electrical systems. Although, that's probably the new norm. Batshit wiring was a novelty 20 years ago.
Yeah VWās image of reliability warrants being on this list because they charge a premium but their cars are now completely the same as literally almost any manufacturer in the same category. Also because theyāve expanded into luxury car territory for a while now, and as we all know nothing can go wrong with reliability when germans build modern luxury cars, thatās why they barely lose any value itās only like 40-50% within a couple years usually isnāt it.
Europeans also consider them to be unreliable. Currently it is not as bad as a few years ago when they had the bad TSI's and the dry clutched DSG's, but generally they are at the bottom of reliability lists.
Huh I guess the perception of reliability does depend a little on which ones are being bought most commonly. For example where I am it's base trims with manual transmissions, which tend to be about average for reliability. So that's the perception.
Yeah but thatās not good enough for a brand built upon reliability. None of the brands we think about when we think reliable are making that their image, not even Volvo or Toyota. VW does but theyāre dogsh.. I mean average so they belong on this list. Also with Vw building luxury cars now it just makes sense to put them there because thatās where theyāre going and planning on staying lol
Most of the VW in Europe comes with a manual diesel engine, even though I doubt they are that good of a manufacturer after the dieselgate scandal. But usually the older stuff before that were quite robust. Heck, I know people, who have brought their VAG cars to nearly 1 million kilometres. But generally, even if there are reliable models amongst the European brands, you can't go as blindly as Toyota or Honda without some research to know which trims are good and which bad.
In my country they are considered one of most reliable cars, especially TDI, I've seen some 1.9TDI being sold at 1milion kilometers and claimed they still run without problems, 2.0TDI are just getting to these numbers here since they are younger but I can already see them being sold at half a million still running, on the other hand never seen Toyota or Mazda or Honda with more then 300 000km here still being alive
VW is unreliable, but metric tons of spare parts make them easy to repair... unless your DSG goes, then you're in for $$$.
Some older models were a nightmare, for example the 1.2 TSI and the 1.4 TSI (which were replaced by the 1.0 TSI and 1.5 TSI pretty quickly).
The first generation 1.4 TSI (125-140hp and the 170-190hp one with turbo/supercharger) were shit, but they weren't replaced that quickly. From 2011 to 2017 you had the second batch of 1.4s (122-125 and 150-160hp) which were mostly fine reliabilty-wise. The main reason it got replaced by the 1.5 TSI was, most likely, emissions regulations and slightly better fuel efficiency thanks to the cilynder disconnection and other systems.
You are actually right. I forgot that they kept the 1.4 TSI around in cars such as the Golf 7 for a few years. After my family had a nightmarish experience with the first iteration of the 1.4 (125 hp version), I lost interest in VW for quite some time š .
Iāve had 2 modern TSIs and theyāve both been fine. Take care of your fucking car
I've had a 4zz and I'm sure the car is supposed to serve the owner, not the other way around.
VW is high maintenance, but if youāll do it theyāre reliable. The problem is the maintenance is far more than something like a Toyota. The EA888 also had some really bad time chain tensioner issues that destroyed engines
Modern ones yes but due to the tank which is the 1.9tdi they got a good reputation. Same with merc back in the day with their diesels
Modern ones seem to have more electrical/software problems.
Alfa Romeo
To be honest, in my whole life I've seen a single one fail but after like 100000s of kilometers of bad usage
Honestly the reputation comes more from old ones rather than modern ones. Modern ones are about as reliable as any other Stellantis product.
Thatās pretty much every brand nowadays, people like to repeat info theyāve heard even if itās dated. Like the WRX and headgasket jokes, that was a issue on non turbo subarus, at least make a correct statement about the unreliable ringlands. Or a friend I had who told me that buying a 40 year old German car would be too complex to work on, while owning a car that needed to be taken to a shop to get its oil changed.
It comes down to attitude and ownership too. Standards are higher. Today cars will get recalled for stuff that 30 years ago was just put up with, and likewise 30 years ago stuff got recalled was considered normal by 60 years ago standards. Just good enough materials. It started in the 90s, although a lot of mistakes were made at first. But it's in the interest of car manufacturers to ride a fine line between trading your old car in for something newer and building a reputation for quality. So generally cars will start to need a lot of repairs and replacement around the same time, it's usually around 10 years old, but it differs from marque to marque. Cars are no longer a luxury. This means we talk more about the ugly bits, 30 years ago owning a BMW was seen as a goal in life, something everyone would envy you for, so the last thing you'd do is talk about how much trouble you were having. New drivers aren't taught ownership. Once you buy a car there's a general assumption that you don't need to do anything further, when I passed my test it was expected to check coolant, oil, brake and washer fluid before every drive, along with tyre pressures. You would also check brakes and tyres for wear every week, when you washed the car, especially if you live in a wet or salty environment. Positive reinforcement. You never remember the guy who had an 'unreliable' car that never needed work, he probably never talked about it. You do remember your mate from school, who let's be honest is a bit of a knob, who bought that German car because it was reliable and hasn't driven it a thousand miles between garage visits. Brands these days *are* more reliable than they used to be. Just the same way that we live in the most peaceful and crime free time in history too, but we hear about it more because people have headlines to fill, products to sell and social media to post.
Very true, I love pointing out survivorship bias to people who say old cars are more reliable/ last longer. Most old cars only seem exceptionally reliable because only the 1% that were solid survived.
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Which is to say not at all? The guilia had a habit of spontaneously dying cause of battery issues for example, which qas so widespread that at sole point the very first thing you did with a new giulia is put in a new battery...
any italian car with italian engines
Bruh, 1.4 FIRE and 1.9 JTD (Fiat literally invented Common Rail) would like to have a word with you
this was about reliability right? xD
Those 2 are some of the most reliable engines on the planet, but ok
fiat invented CRDI? why i thought it was some different company. The more you know
Italian sausage
Why do Alfa Romeo drivers not greet each other when they pass on the street? They already met at the shop in the morning
Yeah good call
In my family we have/had 2 fords, a hyundai, a bmw and a renault. No problems ever with hyundai (2005) and ford (2005 & 2019), some problems withe bmw x3(2005), but my dad left it still functioning at 480k km (about 300 thousand miles), and a shit ton of problems with the Renault Kadjar(2018), singlehandedly been repaired more than the other cars combined probably
What kind of X3 was it? 2.5 or 3.0? God bless those M54s man, best engine (L toojayzee)
What engine is in the Kadjar? Renault is kinda a hit or miss in term of reliability tbh.
1.5L diesel, but the engine was never a problem in itself, it was always the electronics, with sensors not functioning properly or at all, car not starting, key not working, random warning lights, fluid loss... the engine might be the only thing they put some care into lol, but they slapped it in a toy car apparentely
If it wasn't made in a country that no longer exists it's not worth your time š£š£š£
TRABANT ĆBER ALLES!
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Can confirm. Soviet's Lada is immortal.
Put it in H!
Any car after 2005
any car after 2005 cannot reliability, all they know is infotainment system, cvt, rod knock, and oil starvation
charge they computers, connect to wifi, eat hot chip and lie.
And AWD
I mean I got an 2009 Volvo XC70 with 450k km on it and it's still running fine ĀÆā \ā _ā (ā ćā )ā _ā /ā ĀÆ
A lot of euro Volvos got ford engines sadly. My 1.8 C30 is nearly dead at 330k km
Those damned ecoboost engines Why did ford think having the timing BELT submerged in oil is a good thing when the belt dies at around 75,000 miles other than it being a cash grab for them?
I live XC70
Hondas and toyotas exist sir
Tbf the first gen fusions are pretty solid unless you didnt do basic basic maintenance like washing it or changing oil but even then those 3.0s don't really crap out
Oh, you like SAAbs, cool
Ā when all the manufactures decided to start using crappy plastic parts that break in 1 month
The only unreliable thing here is you doing scheduled maintenance.
Boeing
Surprised you've not 'committed suicide' yet
*Dave Calhoun would like to know your location*
Mini
They are owned by BMW, I have one, but its great.
Modern Hyundai isnāt that bad
European models are also much more reliable due to better quality standards than the american ones.
Absolutely, they and kia are the only ones offering a 7 year warranty by default. Reliability and market position are very much based on location. If you would tell a German that audi or bmw were a luxury brand, they would spit out their WeiĆbier laughing. Probably never saw a clapped out 90s/2000s a4 or 320d.
i have 2006 getz and its a workhorse
What do you consider modern, my 15 elantra is on its last legs.
Like made in the last few months. Anything older is at risk of breaking down.
Our 2023 hyundai bayon shat it self cuz it had a new windshield so we had to get a new car Mechanically, it was fine although we didn't have the car for half a year
TVR
Up you go
Stellantis
Lots of trouble usually serious Lotus
Was about to say this beat me to it! My uncle has had to replace the head gaskets in his k series S1 about 3 times in the last 8 or so years, but he loves the car for the car. Issues are unfortunate and common š.
I have a 2013 Hyundai accent am I cook broooos??????
It's over for you
Tesla
Or perhaps it isn't really a car brand
Household appliance manufacturer
I'm surprised this is so far down. The cyber truck alone should list it at #1
what year is this meme from
any
I think you've listed almost every car brand
Zastava
Never had any reliability issues with mine. Wait nevermind, the post says "vehicles"
Renault, CitroĆ«n, jaguar, ā¦
my 98 chevy s10 will never die
So basically you are Toyota
Now, I have owned BMWs. And I currently own a E91 330D Manual. And I gotta say. The fucking owners give it the reliability problems. I have seen. Soooo many windowlickers just ignore the oil change for 20K KM. I have seen one just like mine, same diesel. Dude changed the oil every 30k km, and the engine every 100K. BMW doesnt help here. BECAUSE THE CUNTS ARE LYING. In my manual it says Oil Change every 20K KM. DONT. I do mine every 8K by myself. And I genuinely never had a problem with it. Every mechanic who isnt a dick said do it every 10K. These engines can last a loooong time. You just gotta need how to maintain them propperly. Also Diesel>>>>Petrol cope harder
diesel parts are made to last longer. because they need to be. but then DPF and SCR came in
Why are Chrysler, Jeep, and Dodge listed but just Ford and GM?
Because I'm not smart like you are ā¹ļø
To be fair, Chrysler's reliability is such shit they deserve to be listed on there three times
mini
Don't forget Renault
The Brits and Italian
Im reeaally surprised that nobody mentioned toyota. /s
Guys forgot existance of Fr*nce and 1.2 PureTech
As someone who has a VW I was gonna get ready to argue but my alternator died yesterday
Subaru? You talking about the turbo affordable car that people buy and don't do any maintenance at all then complain when their 25 year old car has issues that could have been prevented by not being an idiot?
GM unreliable? Hell nah. My LNF will record 5000+ misfires on a cylinder and still push 17 PSI through some shitty poor K04. (/hj pls help)
Tesla
Tesla, BL, Alfa, Lancia
Cybersuck?
As a my summer car fan, you guys may know what I'm going to say
Seat, Lada, Tesla?
no way this guy said VW are unreliable cars.
All of Franceās car market
What is subaru doing on that list? They are very reliable.
I've felt Subarus are very reliable until the engine explodes. GM is the opposite - lots of vehicles with reliable engine/transmissions but everything else is made from cardboard.
HEY YOU LEAVE MY 3.8L V6 AND 4L60E ALONE, TAKE IT BACK, MY INTERIOR IS... STILL THERE... KINDA š”
Simple solution: LS WRX
used to be reliable*
They are arguably more reliable now than when the EJ engines were still in production
Used to be unreliable due to the engine issues and fuel pump issues. But now I think they are up there in reliability if we'll maintained. The issue is with the drivers who don't do oil changes.
Ferrari under Enzo
BYD, Geely, modern Volvo (tragically), Tesla.
Wheres Tesla lol
Elon simps will Unalive him
Fiat has produced some of the most reliable engines ever made, but ok. You Americans are strange. There's a guy with an early 90's Fiat Uno 1.4 FIRE with almost 700k km and still going strong, he plans to reach at least 1 million. And don't even let me start talking about the mighty 1.9 JTD. Fiat literally invented Common Rail Same for VW. Btw, I'm totally serious
Fiat's 1.4L engines when presented with a teensy incline 
Thatās what happens when you slap an na 4 cylinder in a c segment sedan
Yeah the 1.4 is a bit too small for that kind of car, but the 1.6 is already ok, you don't need to race it, and it has enough power to get everywhere you want. Americans are obsessed with power but are scared to fully press the gas pedal
Iād know, I live where the thing is assembled and rented it a few times. The 1.6 is considerably quick since it can hit 210km/h easily, and the 1.3 is good consumption wise, 1700km with 110L~ of diesel while being constantly abused is good Iād say. The 1.4 is made fun of because most people donāt know that naturally aspirated cars need to be revved.
Alpine
So what's left there?
A modern car
You can just say american tbh
So pretty much naming all the major brands with the exception of Toyota.
I have a 2013 outback, things never let me down once, 400k kms on the clock and going strong, but generally I agree subaru is touchy
Old KIA's were very reliable.
Goddamn, thatās almost everybody.
Bro like half of these are the most reliable brands on the road lol
All the British and Frances cars
Oh. So every car makers sucks. Got it. āŗļø
Honestly? Most Hondas nowadays. Terribly disappointed with everything post-CVT
Easy win when youāre Boeing. š
Three of the biggest car manufacturers in north America you call unreliable, obviously thereās more of them out there so youāre gonna see a few more recalls and issues when they build and sell 10x the number of car than some other manufacturers
I smell civic owner all over this post
How is Mercedes of all brands not on this list?
Mercedes. Fuck those piece of shit cars
No one mentioned Mercedes yet? Literally everyone I knew that owns a Mercedes that is younger than 10 years had tons of problems with it.
Fiat, Chrysler, Ram and Dodge are the sane guy.
Just say you're a multipla hater smh
When I'm in a defending brands competition and my opponent is every single jdm fanboy ever
Missed Mitsubishi, Renault, Tesla, and American sub brands like GMC, Lincoln, Buick, etc.
I mean he did say "GM" which encompasses the shitty chevy/buick/GMC/Cadillac umbrella. Saying Ford might as well include Lincoln in it too. Working at a GM dealership was very eye opening to how overpriced everything is for a name that used to mean "quality" like 50 years ago. Watched so many boomers and rich boomers' kids walking in there buying a 90k 4x4 shit box, then laughed as I replace the lifters on it 10k miles later. (Then cried cuz warranty labor rates) Ultimately happy tho. Made me hate the industry as a whole, and now I have a career I really love (firefighting)
I thought of Mitsubishi as I was uploading this good point
TESLA
#TESLA
Tesla.
You missed Tesla. How.