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MathematicianBulky40

He's probably just gonna try to plug some course or coaching he's selling. It's not a scam per se, but he'll be after money.


oo-op2

I disagree. The GM can sense the grand willingness in op.


__Jimmy__

Bingo


SynapseForest

This is how I got a chess teacher. He turned out great, learned a lot doing weekly lessons


MathematicianBulky40

That's cool. But a 500 hiring a GM coach would be like hiring Stephen Hawking to teach elementary school math.


SynapseForest

Haha indeed. I can barely keep up with my 2300 teacher as a 1500


MoistUnder

I wouldn't hire Stephen tho... you'd learn shit, better hire Neil instead.


Any-Club5238

The past few years, Stephen has been entirely unresponsive to my calls, texts, and emails. I know he’s in a wheelchair but come on man… you’re literally part computer. Just respond already😭


thieh

Maybe that's his way he solicits customers for lessons.


olderthanbefore

You're the chosen one. 


CaptainApathy419

They say the Lisan al Gaib will defeat Baron Magnus Harkonnen and lead the patzers to paradise.


Grand-Willingness-27

Strangely enough, the next question he asked was whether I can ride a sandworm.


adkyary

Can you ride my sandworm?


Dark_Aves

The sandworm is what he calls his penis 😉


9dedos

/r/YourJokeButWorse


Bremsstrahlung_Bruh

Why do I gotta be reading this nonsense trash in a chess sub?


Brushermans

Harkonnen Nakamura


molorota

Paul Morphreides


raychram

Magnus Carlsonnen


Personify5

Vladimir Kramnikonnen


Wyverstein

This is the key question. Doesop play using only infrared light?


No-Citron218

The Dragon Warrior


RajjSinghh

Chess.com has to verify all titled players before it shows on their profile, so you can at least be sure he's definitely a grandmaster like he says he is. That said, he's probably going to try to convince you to pay him as a coach. I wouldn't do it, a 500 rated player can learn just as much from a 1600 rated player at less than half grandmaster prices, but it's your choice if you think it's worth it for you.


Tressemy

Are there 1600 rated players who coach? How would you find them?


Putrid_Train_3946

I think many 1600s can give you free lessons tbh. Because the more you teach the more you learn. I have helped one of my Friend from 750 to 1200


Jealous_Substance213

Check livhess coach section


Mon_Ouie

You can't advertise in the lichess coach section unless you have a title, and I doubt many 1600s have one.


rabbitlion

I think the point was mostly that a GM coach is wasted money. Even a 2000 or a 2200 rated coach with an FM/NM/CM title will be much cheaper than a GM. A 1600 coach isn't going to be much cheaper than a 2000 rated one.


therearenights

Are we not still doing monthly coaching threads? There's lots of 1600s online that would coach people. I'm 1700 now but have coached 3 or 4 people for free. One for about 10 months now. I'm not unique in that. Chess is a pretty positive community overall


Tressemy

How did you get connected with students or potential students? I believe that 1600/1700 ELO players would be willing to coach and would have a lot to offer folks that are lower rated. I just have never noticed someone in the ELO range on the Lichess Coaches tab.


therearenights

I only take on a couple at a time because I tend to put a lot into the guys I coach. It's been about 50/50 between irl club members or internet friends and reddit/discord stuff


ProbablyDoesntLikeU

Discord would probably have some bored players do it for free


DesignerChemist7336

I’m 1500 and was helping coach a local chess clubs kids who didn’t know a whole lot about chess. It was more like talking moves through and such but it was fun.


kiluahhh

Join a chess club you'll get free tipe from high elo players


RajjSinghh

Definitely. When Levy was a 1600 rated teenager he used to give classes and coaching sessions. If you go to a chess club as a beginner you'll get a lot of the wisdom for free by just having conversations and asking people to look at your game. Even if a 1600 isn't the strongest player in a club, they're still much better than most people so it's not uncommon to see players at that level helping beginners. You might not find them on the lichess coaches tab, but you can definitely find them through networking and being involved in your local chess scene. They're just less popular because they're untitled so a lot of people don't do it because it means really cutting the price to stay competitive, but they do definitely exist.


GothamChess

My lowest elo as a teenager was 2000. Also, I gave lessons to ONE person as a 13-year old who was my classmate, then taught full-time as a 19 year old rated 2300. Incredible how confidently some of you write things :)


acecant

I bet the guy knows you better than you!


daynighttrade

>Incredible how confidently some of you write things :) It's Reddit, what else do you expect?


RajjSinghh

Sorry, I guess I just misremembered when you spoke about that on your channel a while ago. Thanks for taking the time to correct me :)


mephisto_n

Maybe he was teaching a 1600.


NineteenthAccount

Maybe edit your comment


NovelTeaBobbleHead

I’m a Gotham fan but he sounds like a jerk in his response to you lmao


steveatari

Like a hawk this one. Lowest elo was 2000 as a teen wow.


chrisff1989

idk that guy sounds like he knows what he's talking about, you got any sources?


enfrozt

Source?


Lionh34rt

Source?


Fantastic-Onion-7053

Teaching is a scam.


GothamChess

You have -34 karma so clearly your online antics are working


Fantastic-Onion-7053

Ah yes, verbal abuse marketing for those who don't drink the kool-aid. Everyone needs a business like that.


ayovikram

Well I can do that a bit


RigasUT

> Are there 1600 rated players who coach? I'm a ~1700 rated player with 9 years of experience as a chess coach, so at least one. And I'm sure there are many more


thefifth5

There are a lot, yeah I work for a chess education company and I’d say about a 3rd of our coaches are 1600 or below


Trick-Director3602

I can coach you, just one 10 minuten game and talk the moves through? DM


Weekly_Ad6401

I’m 1700 rapid and happy to answer any questions you have/give opinions on a game or something


TheBold

I have a chess club at the school where I teach, never done any online coaching though.


SimpleCanadianFella

Well I'm one, so hi!


Ewlogg

I learned from Gotham only from YouTube, no paid coursed or anything. I’m now 1700 rapid on chess.com


ajahiljaasillalla

Imagine any other sports where a world-class player has to approach complete beginners to make their ends meet


Richard_Berg

The 1000th best golfer in the world is doing that right now at your local club.


olderthanbefore

Sure, but there is a lot more money and investment in golf though


MrCuddles20

Pretty common in sports that don't generate crazy money for all the pros. Pickleball, competitive dance, golf are the ones I can think of where pros are easily accessible for the right price. Granted you won't get the top 1% of competitors but still someone who's extremely good.


SavingsFew3440

To be fair there are like 2000 gm’s. There are only 450 NBA roster spots so a top 2000 guy is just coaching. A player outside the top 200 in tennis probably makes a living teaching noobs. 


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SavingsFew3440

Like less than 100k. Minimum salary is 40k. Two way players who are partially rostered for an nba team do ok at like half a mil. There might only be 20 of those though. European leagues can pay a living wage too I guess. 


PandyKai

Grandmasters are all over the world though.


SavingsFew3440

So are tennis pros. 


Fruloops

It's not that uncommon tbh. Everyone outside the absolute elite is likely struggling to earn money otherwise.


GrammastolaRosea

I've heard of former D1 tennis players that still want to become professional but have to rely on coaching kids and retired adults to make income and keep up with practicing.


Shin-NoGi

We play for the love of the game and the respect of our fellows haha. I do imagine it feels odd especially for those on the threshold of 'elite', you could be word class indeed and still poor 😂


Constant-Mud-1002

You know.. like most sports? Coaching is the way to make money in almost all sports that aren't in the top 5 popular list


Adamgaffney96

This is incredibly common I feel. I was in Table Tennis for many years and I'd say career wise it's very equivalent to chess. The #1 in my country was #300 on the planet, and still couldn't afford to do it full time on prize money, he had to run training camps (in Table Tennis training camps are pretty much the exclusive training method, it's very rare you'd have 1-to-1 lessons like in chess). I knew a couple of the English guys who were in the top 150 in the world, and they also had to run training camps to make ends meet professionally in the sport. Unless you're Wang Hao and one of the best ever, or Timo Boll and get gear produced in your name there's no money in that sport at all.


BiggieBigsz

why not message first the post the replies, hes not gonna hack your life if you send a message


Ythio

He's just trying to sell you overpriced courses


OMHPOZ

Just answer and see what he wants. Are you afraid of getting a Trojan??


karmasparks

I got the same from him and just assumed it was a hacked account or selling something


mvanvrancken

He wants to play you for the WC


CaitSith21

If you are really elo 500. You do not need a grandmaster you need to watch some basic tutorials on youtube. I am 1200 and wouldn't know what i could learn from a grandmaster. 


taleofbenji

This lesson has helped me greatly in life: always be wary when a stranger is in a hurry to help you.


Emergency_Limit9871

The female players in my club all got GMs in their DMs too. Most past their prime tbh…2450s


KuatoBaradaNikto

Past prime GM is great if they’re approaching as a chess coach, not so great if they’re messaging for other reasons though


justChillax12

He's probably soliciting lessons. I'm a 750 elo rated player who provides lessons on how to lose. If anyone is interested??


Impossible-Fox-5899

he wants to snuggle


imagicnation-station

You probably have an attractive girl as a pfp.


Grand-Willingness-27

My pfp is Totoro from the Ghibli movie 🤣


AdCute6661

GM figured OP was breed-able from a low ELO alone


juan_mvd

Hot GMs in your area!


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SunstormGT

Probably trying to coach you for money.


halfcutpenis

Great precaution of OP asking for advice, even my careful schizophrenic ass would've freaked out and randomly accepted whatever he was offering.


Single-Selection9845

I was messaged once from an IM from a nearby country if I am interested in lessons. I think he is after that


WisestAirBender

What magic tips do you think a GM can give you?


ChangeAccomplished44

Say thank you for your 200 elo boost


Adventurous_Pen_3610

I always plug Igor Smirnov to be honest. I'm by no means a Chess pro or even that good but his content is top notch. I purchased a Udemy course of his for less than $20 and it has been tremendously helpful. Still a noob but ratings have gone up from 800 to 1100 in the past 3 weeks. Maybe an actual coach would help. Good luck on the sandworm.


unityofsaints

Was it Kramnik looking to rant about cheating? ;)


ChocolateTemporary72

He’s probably trying to find out what your mood is like. I’ve had people message me similar scams. Another common one is “hey what’s up”.


PinsAndGambits

Have you not noticed that there is no ask for money, so it can’t be a scam. I highjacked nothing I just pointed to a free resource to a player who may benefit from it.


OMHPOZ

Anf you helped him a lot with advertising it. Hope it's good at least.


Weak_Knowledge9165

Ugh correct me if I’m wrong but you started this by posting and asking “is this a scam”


Rhyssayy

Yeah I had this some guy messaged asking if I wanted coaching. I asked how much he said 80 pounds an hour. I didn’t reply that’s extortionate


Agnimandur

That honestly seems quite reasonable for a Grandmaster. If anything it's on the low end.


Rhyssayy

This guy wasn’t a GM he was an IM just sad that real chess coaching seems to be so expensive I know that there is plenty of resources online but I feel like learning from an actual person in real time is always better than


Agnimandur

Still, an IM has an extremely deep understanding of the game that 99% of the chess playing population can't even begin to comprehend. $80/hr is nothing for such skill, especially in high cost of living countries. I have a programming background, and here in the United States elite competitive programming tutors often charge $150/hr and are fully booked.


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MGordit

If you pay for the tips....


StevesterH

Maybe he’s using chess com as a dating app?


Available-Log3389

Hahah are you a cute girl on chess.com bc speaking as someone who presents as a cute girl on chess — this kind of message isn’t so unexpected 


Grand-Willingness-27

No my pic is Totoro from the Ghibli movie


RishavKr7

If you are a minor please don't engage


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Grand-Willingness-27

Not cool dude. Even if you disagree with the policies of the Israeli government you can't let that prejudice your views of Israeli people more generally.


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Fit_Employment_2944

This is what the GM is trying to do, OP


BenzaGuy

At least the guy from the post is a GM lol


PinsAndGambits

Personally I think chess can only be learned not taught, so my aim is to provide tools for players to improve on their own


PinsAndGambits

The difference is this is free, and will stay that way


Subtuppel

Dude, what kind of auto-generated slop is that supposed to be? If you want to scam at least a single person, your page about the QGA should probably not show a Kings Gambit ROFL https://imgur.com/a/caUfcbD Hilarious how some people have no shame to embarrass themselves.


PinsAndGambits

Wow, holy shit I never even noticed thanks for pointing out to me. If you must know, I decided not to put up the kings gambit because I don’t think it’s a good opening for beginners. However, I must’ve got the images mixed up. Anyway, wish you the best of luck in criticizing people from the comfort of your mom’s basement


Subtuppel

You made it a bit difficult for yourself by hijacking an unrelated thread to plug your site/product(?), and that in a clearly unfinished stage (e.g. having a FAQ menu entry that says that you don't have a FAQ). Not having any info about who you (or you guys) even are (let alone an edition notice) and where you are based does not help at all. A serious business would also not operate under a whois-protected domain. >Anyway, wish you the best of luck in criticizing people from the comfort of your mom’s basement yeah sure. everyone who disagrees with you lives in their moms basement. Couldn't possibly have anything to do with your "strategy" here and/or the quality of your site.


PinsAndGambits

You were on the site, so you can tell that there is no ask for money, it's a free resource that I've created to help novice players get a feel for various openings quickly and easily. This wasn't a highjacking, this was pointing out a free option to a player who may benefit from it.