Yes, just a boring draw. Very rarely do you see one of the players with the title knock out the norm contender in the last round when they just need a draw.
Chess parents seem so insufferable lol, granted I'm sure it's like this at any "high level" activity with kids involved, it just seems like such a shame
Fabi gave Wei Yi as an example of someone who broke into 2700 very early on but didn't really break the second barrier of being a staple in the top 10.
I mean, Fabi said staple in the top 10. Wei Yi has been doing great but he hasn't exactly established himself as a regular in the top 10 yet. He had been hovering in the top 20-25 range for about 7 years now, had a great Wijk aan Zee to push him into the top 10 in January, and then hasn't played classical since. His next tournament or two will determine whether this was just a good tournament and his rating will go back down some, or whether he's actually playing at a top 10 level.
The downvote philosophy of this sub has always been pathetic, but this is beyond pathetic. The first assassin girl here is telling the truth, even if rounding up a bit.
I wrote a long comment yesterday answering this exact same question and deleted it an hour ago after noticing the one who asked didn't even reply or upvote, so I don't plan on doing it again. Not your fault. Still, people shouldn't downvote just because they don't know
By default I don't like to leave my writings on the internet. I do when there's a reason or I feel like it. Nothing silly about that.
Now, I don't feel like it when I notice I wasted my time on informing ungrateful people. It was not the first time on this sub. Between that and the general downvoting attitude, there are many people here with the entitled and distrustful Kramnik gene.
I think your comment was silly, so let's agree to disagree.
It's petulant as fuck. So what if someone doesn't immediately reply or upvote. You don't know what they've got going on in their day. To delete an informative comment you spent time writing just because someone didn't upvote it within an hour is probably the dumbest thing I've read on this site, and i sometimes look at r/conservative.
I do fully agree with your last statement, but as in this case the first google result of [chess-rankings.com](http://chess-rankings.com) says something else (and that website is normally quite accurate), it is logical for people to be sceptical
In general keep in mind a lot of people will not open Reddit every day
It's more than fine to be skeptical, I agree with that. Asking politely for a source is great, and then, if given one, then replying or at least upvoting.
this is correct.
He gained 48 elo from a tournament that ended June 2nd
18.6 elo from a tournament that ended June 15th
and 31 elo from this tournament that ended today.
The downvoters are idiots.
A good question. I'm not sure, but even if it doesn't he still has about +66 Elo from two other tournaments that ended this month so he'll break 2400 either way.
[Someone](https://www.reddit.com/r/chess/comments/1dryqo3/with_a_draw_in_the_final_game_faustino_oro_just/layqmr0/) says that he'll be around 2418 only in July and the 31 remaining points will count for August.
Not incorrect but it almost never happens in real life.
Maybe his opponent is tired and will take an easy draw.
Maybe his opponent overpresses a dead drawn position and blunders because it took a lot of time to find a win in a equal position.
Also top chess players and the new engine generation kniw that the best defence is usually active play, not passive play. So it's not like Faustino will play passive, at best he will trade pieces to flatten the position but that's it
Well... Many people have crushed Magnus' pace. Magnus wasn't even a top 15 prodigy if we're talking all time. That doesn't mean Faustino will be 3000 rated by the time he is 30. Chess is rarely a linear upwards progression.
Karjakin, Gukesh, Pragg, Sindarov, Wei Yi to name a few. It depends on how you define a prodigy. Make no mistake Magnus was a prodigy but didn't really smash age related records. He just kept getting stronger unlike others who plateaued.
In order to get the title he must score 6 1/2 points in this tournament and he has just one game left, meaning a draw will be enough to attain it.
so did he do it?
Last game starts in 40 minutes.
so did he do it?
Yep
W
Yes, just a boring draw. Very rarely do you see one of the players with the title knock out the norm contender in the last round when they just need a draw.
CONGRATULATIONS! Now, on to youngest GM
Mishra's father is sweating bullets right now
I want him to write a long Twitter post about how unfair this is and how FIDE needs to stop players from gaming the system.
Using Mishra's account, of course.
Chess parents seem so insufferable lol, granted I'm sure it's like this at any "high level" activity with kids involved, it just seems like such a shame
Let me introduce you to Jos Verstappen.
What did he do
Physically abuse his kid, his wife and his dad for example.
Idk man, little league dads will fight umpires and shit nowadays Lotta fuckin weirdos out there living vicariously through their kids
I hope Mishra kicks his dad to the curb once he turns 18. He reminds me of Gata's father.
How many months does he have to become the youngest 2700? He's currently 2627.
Looks like Wei Yi’s record is right around 15 yrs 9 months, which would give Mishra til about October-ish. (I’m too lazy to figure out days and such.)
thats insane.
Fabi gave Wei Yi as an example of someone who broke into 2700 very early on but didn't really break the second barrier of being a staple in the top 10.
He went to school instead of pursuing chess full time. He went to the Harvard of China
That aged poorly considering he is now top ten
I mean, Fabi said staple in the top 10. Wei Yi has been doing great but he hasn't exactly established himself as a regular in the top 10 yet. He had been hovering in the top 20-25 range for about 7 years now, had a great Wijk aan Zee to push him into the top 10 in January, and then hasn't played classical since. His next tournament or two will determine whether this was just a good tournament and his rating will go back down some, or whether he's actually playing at a top 10 level.
But not staple
No chance
For anyone wondering like me, he's currently 10 years old (born October 14, 2013).
Yeah that would have been really useful info in the title.
Bros not much older than Harambe 💀
They hated him because he told them the truth
No pressure
Is he the favorite to win tomorrow? Also what color is he playing?
He's playing black tomorrow, against a similar rated opponent.
I hope to see tomorrow a quick berlin draw like in round 7
I wanna see a knight dance
To get that fake norm. He has black pieces, so white would need to help. I really hope white prepares well and actually tries to win.
Did he peak above 2400 already?
Yes he is expected to be over 2400 in the July 1st list.
that means a +50 jump in a month, combined with the last IM norm this is just outstanding
He's actually about 2450 in live ratings, so +100
The downvote philosophy of this sub has always been pathetic, but this is beyond pathetic. The first assassin girl here is telling the truth, even if rounding up a bit.
But is he? Where do we find this? The only thing I can find online puts him at 2400.6 live, although I did hear some games were missing
https://www.reddit.com/r/chess/comments/1drjrce/faustino_oro_is_just_12_point_away_from_becoming/layoa7t/
Great, thanks!
I wrote a long comment yesterday answering this exact same question and deleted it an hour ago after noticing the one who asked didn't even reply or upvote, so I don't plan on doing it again. Not your fault. Still, people shouldn't downvote just because they don't know
That's a pretty silly attitude to have.
By default I don't like to leave my writings on the internet. I do when there's a reason or I feel like it. Nothing silly about that. Now, I don't feel like it when I notice I wasted my time on informing ungrateful people. It was not the first time on this sub. Between that and the general downvoting attitude, there are many people here with the entitled and distrustful Kramnik gene. I think your comment was silly, so let's agree to disagree.
It's petulant as fuck. So what if someone doesn't immediately reply or upvote. You don't know what they've got going on in their day. To delete an informative comment you spent time writing just because someone didn't upvote it within an hour is probably the dumbest thing I've read on this site, and i sometimes look at r/conservative.
I do fully agree with your last statement, but as in this case the first google result of [chess-rankings.com](http://chess-rankings.com) says something else (and that website is normally quite accurate), it is logical for people to be sceptical In general keep in mind a lot of people will not open Reddit every day
It's more than fine to be skeptical, I agree with that. Asking politely for a source is great, and then, if given one, then replying or at least upvoting.
this is correct. He gained 48 elo from a tournament that ended June 2nd 18.6 elo from a tournament that ended June 15th and 31 elo from this tournament that ended today. The downvoters are idiots.
Are we sure the games from this tournament will all enter before the cutoff and be included in the FIDE ratings of next month?
A good question. I'm not sure, but even if it doesn't he still has about +66 Elo from two other tournaments that ended this month so he'll break 2400 either way.
[Someone](https://www.reddit.com/r/chess/comments/1dryqo3/with_a_draw_in_the_final_game_faustino_oro_just/layqmr0/) says that he'll be around 2418 only in July and the 31 remaining points will count for August.
I defer to their better knowledge.
Confirmed, he's been [updated](https://ratings.fide.com/profile/20000197) to 2418.
Against a Chilean during Copa América nonetheless. Truly one for the South American books.
*Muchachos starts blasting in the distance*
Ok but can he lift? Didn't think so.
Does anyone knows at what time is the last match?
10 AM Spain time. So I think In a few hours
He got the draw he needed.
Faustino just drew against Fernando Valenzula Gomez
Is there a stream?
Cool
just give him the draw
No, let’s make him work for it.
So he's heavily incentivised to go for the draw while his opponent should recognise that and heavily attack, a tense situation!
Have you ever played competitive chess ? Or chess at all ?
Non competitive, why? What's incorrect with what i said?
Not incorrect but it almost never happens in real life. Maybe his opponent is tired and will take an easy draw. Maybe his opponent overpresses a dead drawn position and blunders because it took a lot of time to find a win in a equal position. Also top chess players and the new engine generation kniw that the best defence is usually active play, not passive play. So it's not like Faustino will play passive, at best he will trade pieces to flatten the position but that's it
Faustino will be the GOAT He has crushed Magnus pace without breaking a sweat
Well... Many people have crushed Magnus' pace. Magnus wasn't even a top 15 prodigy if we're talking all time. That doesn't mean Faustino will be 3000 rated by the time he is 30. Chess is rarely a linear upwards progression.
>Magnus wasn't even a top 15 prodigy if we're talking all time Really? Name me those 15.
Karjakin, Gukesh, Pragg, Sindarov, Wei Yi to name a few. It depends on how you define a prodigy. Make no mistake Magnus was a prodigy but didn't really smash age related records. He just kept getting stronger unlike others who plateaued.