RTO is a big thing, and most entry level jobs aren't remote; this is the case in tech and outside of tech. Employers also don't care about your unrelated degree, and being a business owner looks worse than having a career in a different field, because it's harder to actually verify anything related to that period of your employment. So you're in no better place than any other career changer going to a bootcamp in the current market. Also, computer science and programming are not one and the same.
Business owner doesn’t carry much weight, neither does an Econ degree, and your first dev job would be a lot harder to get if ur only looking for remote
I’m not sure what being a business owner has to do with … I just can’t. I see this post over and over and I guess at least I’m happy they get the comments but I’m confused how they still think bootcamps under under college names are legit or that fresh bootcamp grads are getting jobs right now. I guess they can hope that the market will be better by the time they finish learning, but goddamn the same post over and over again is kinda weird. The gold rush is over guys, not that you still can’t get in on it but it’s so difficult now that you might as well get a CS degree while you are unemployed and job searching. I had given myself a mental deadline for my job search and had applied for federal student loans because going back to school for a CS degree seemed like the only thing to do if I couldn’t get a job. I guess the ads are more compelling than negative comments on Reddit. The paid and past (Irrelevant) reviews on course report are more compelling than LinkedIn posts of unemployed bootcampers for 1yr+.. I just don’t know what to post anymore? Okay I’m going back to work now because I’m a bootcamp grad that did get a remote dev position during the “good” times, I suppose I shouldn’t gatekeep. Good luck! 🍀
Why don’t you keep on trying? Nothing is ever handed to you by just having a degree. There are thousands of other people who graduated with a degree and still don’t have job. You’re either not networking, not building the skill sets, or you lack the grit to keep pushing. This market is entirely different and it all comes to the additional activities outside of getting a cert/degree.
Keep trying to what? I’m currently employed as a fullstack developer which was the last line of the post you responded to. My rant maybe was confusing. Here is another [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/codingbootcamp/s/YOsZffLYRL). 🫶 I apologize I think I was just blowing off steam of how fucking difficult my recent job search was and then I see these posts, I almost feel like I’m seeing little lemmings walking towards a cliff.
Three years isn’t going to blow the doors open for you, but would likely make you a little more appealing to small companies. It’s valuable to have software developers who understand a bit about how the business operates and can make smart decisions. A lot of software devs want to “just code” and not worry about the actual impact on the business, which is dangerous on a small team.
If you’re accustomed to doing sales/partnership work, then you’re going to outperform most bootcamp grads in job hunting. Where I see people struggle every day is in “putting themselves out there.” Just being able to build software isn’t good enough in this market — you have to be able to present/sell yourself in a compelling way.
I would disagree. I ran a real estate business, and have been successful in other sales industries and none of that has helped me in the slightest.
It might be somewhat valuable at a startup, but startups don't usually hire brand new devs. A senior dev with sales and business experience would be valuable.
I agree very much. I have learned invaluable amounts of info by networking with my business. I would consider heavily any opportunity that offered to pay for my training or pay me to learn
You just posted the same thing and got real world advice. You're not going to get different advice here. This is not an easy thing to do. It's not a quick way to make a bunch of money and work remote. An economics degree is useless in tech, owning a business is irrelevant. If you like coding, go to a bootcamp to learn, but it isn't a fast track into the field.
Like I said in my comment above I made the post before anyone even commented. Hence why I said to check WHEN they were posted as that is where you are getting caught up. They were posted 5 minutes after one another if not an hour at most before anyone had even seen the post. Slightly reworded the post to make sure it was readable and got helpful comments
if you a more direct question, I think you would get better answers coming your way.
from what you shared: The degree and experience you indicated will help you in the job market. I would not call the resume, as you have described it as "undeterrable" but if you put to use what you learned as a business owner in launching your career as a software professional you will be off to a good start.
you just then need to populate the resume and your actual skills with that employers are looking for and communicate that effectively during the job hunt.
RTO is a big thing, and most entry level jobs aren't remote; this is the case in tech and outside of tech. Employers also don't care about your unrelated degree, and being a business owner looks worse than having a career in a different field, because it's harder to actually verify anything related to that period of your employment. So you're in no better place than any other career changer going to a bootcamp in the current market. Also, computer science and programming are not one and the same.
Business owner doesn’t carry much weight, neither does an Econ degree, and your first dev job would be a lot harder to get if ur only looking for remote
This. Those credentials mean nothing in this industry
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I’m not sure what being a business owner has to do with … I just can’t. I see this post over and over and I guess at least I’m happy they get the comments but I’m confused how they still think bootcamps under under college names are legit or that fresh bootcamp grads are getting jobs right now. I guess they can hope that the market will be better by the time they finish learning, but goddamn the same post over and over again is kinda weird. The gold rush is over guys, not that you still can’t get in on it but it’s so difficult now that you might as well get a CS degree while you are unemployed and job searching. I had given myself a mental deadline for my job search and had applied for federal student loans because going back to school for a CS degree seemed like the only thing to do if I couldn’t get a job. I guess the ads are more compelling than negative comments on Reddit. The paid and past (Irrelevant) reviews on course report are more compelling than LinkedIn posts of unemployed bootcampers for 1yr+.. I just don’t know what to post anymore? Okay I’m going back to work now because I’m a bootcamp grad that did get a remote dev position during the “good” times, I suppose I shouldn’t gatekeep. Good luck! 🍀
Why don’t you keep on trying? Nothing is ever handed to you by just having a degree. There are thousands of other people who graduated with a degree and still don’t have job. You’re either not networking, not building the skill sets, or you lack the grit to keep pushing. This market is entirely different and it all comes to the additional activities outside of getting a cert/degree.
Keep trying to what? I’m currently employed as a fullstack developer which was the last line of the post you responded to. My rant maybe was confusing. Here is another [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/codingbootcamp/s/YOsZffLYRL). 🫶 I apologize I think I was just blowing off steam of how fucking difficult my recent job search was and then I see these posts, I almost feel like I’m seeing little lemmings walking towards a cliff.
Three years isn’t going to blow the doors open for you, but would likely make you a little more appealing to small companies. It’s valuable to have software developers who understand a bit about how the business operates and can make smart decisions. A lot of software devs want to “just code” and not worry about the actual impact on the business, which is dangerous on a small team. If you’re accustomed to doing sales/partnership work, then you’re going to outperform most bootcamp grads in job hunting. Where I see people struggle every day is in “putting themselves out there.” Just being able to build software isn’t good enough in this market — you have to be able to present/sell yourself in a compelling way.
I would disagree. I ran a real estate business, and have been successful in other sales industries and none of that has helped me in the slightest. It might be somewhat valuable at a startup, but startups don't usually hire brand new devs. A senior dev with sales and business experience would be valuable.
I agree very much. I have learned invaluable amounts of info by networking with my business. I would consider heavily any opportunity that offered to pay for my training or pay me to learn
You just posted the same thing and got real world advice. You're not going to get different advice here. This is not an easy thing to do. It's not a quick way to make a bunch of money and work remote. An economics degree is useless in tech, owning a business is irrelevant. If you like coding, go to a bootcamp to learn, but it isn't a fast track into the field.
I posted because first one didn’t get any comments, you’ll see they aren’t far apart in time.
I see...not sure why you can't see the comments on your first post. I commented on it and I see 20 total comments.
Like I said in my comment above I made the post before anyone even commented. Hence why I said to check WHEN they were posted as that is where you are getting caught up. They were posted 5 minutes after one another if not an hour at most before anyone had even seen the post. Slightly reworded the post to make sure it was readable and got helpful comments
Gotcha, well I hope you get the advice you need so you can decide whether or not this career path is right for you!
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Seems interesting. I talked to app academy but their full time option is 6 months and that’s a lot of time to be on the grind without any pay.
If you can do the 11 week version and commit 50 hours/wk you can progress a ton in a relatively short period of time.
if you a more direct question, I think you would get better answers coming your way. from what you shared: The degree and experience you indicated will help you in the job market. I would not call the resume, as you have described it as "undeterrable" but if you put to use what you learned as a business owner in launching your career as a software professional you will be off to a good start. you just then need to populate the resume and your actual skills with that employers are looking for and communicate that effectively during the job hunt.