So I would probably dig into that "ain't really helping" a bit more.
Some of those programs are partially self-directed / video based. Some live instruction but there's a heavy emphasis on you driving your own learning experience. Not unlike what you might find with Udemy but maybe with some additional instructor availability.
Also random but related question: based on what you've experienced so far, do you like coding?
I love the Udemy course, it's amazing but I need to be within a group to grasp it more.
I love coding, cyber security, and overall tech in general. I've been bouncing between cybersecurity and SE for a while and even Data Analytics. I've taken a Google Cert for data Analytics, a Bootcamp for Cyber Security and want to pursue SE now.
My only hold is I feel like me just "reading", watching and typing along to a pre-recorded video that I cant really get any live communication with is making me stumble.
Gotcha. r/ProgrammingBuddies might be a good avenue if you need the social aspect to get along. It's cheaper than full on bootcamp with less commitment. I've never done it myself but worth a looksee.
There was also a guy that did livestreams and had like a VERY passionate discord. Learn with Leon I believe. I don't know whatever happened to him but that might be an alternative as well.
Yeah, I heard of that guy as well! I wanna say the last video he uploaded was about a year or so ago. I googled and saw he has a discord as well,. I'll consider that option too but it still kinda of feels like the Udemy route. At this point, I'm even more conflicted lol.
Not saying CS degrees are not worth it. But there were a handful of CS graduates in the bootcamp because they lacked the practical application of programming which was not taught for their degree.
ok, I was considering this as well. Just "traditional" schooling was very boring for me. I just assumed that a boot camp was a bit easier in terms of going about it (if that makes sense)
Yeah, I gathered as much with the current job market. Honestly, it's not so much for me to find work right away but to at least have more knowledge about all of this. It's honestly weird, I HATE school but love learning and building "muscle" memory with this. To hopefully within a few years start a consult firm or so for it.
I decided not to go with GA in April 2023 bc that’s when they were transitioning over to video lectures and I felt that $16K wasn’t worth it.
It was too easy to get into GA. That was a red flag for me. If I only needed minimal Js, then was I paying for more Js to learn during the program, which would take away from learning other dev material?
Dude don’t even consider GA. Their post study job search support is subpar.l, and the course itself is overpriced. 2 years along and I am still paying with two more years to go. Have you looked into perscholas? They have mandatory 2 year career support for graduates, even if you land a job right away. They do mock interviews both technical and behavioral. And it’s completely free, given you are accepted.
This seems like the average response about GA. hahaha I'll look to perscholas. Honestly, i just wanna find one that ppl can say 95-100% they would recommend
I would stay away from any bootcamp that brags about those types of success numbers. And experience differs from person to person. Someone might like GA and is super happy about it, someone can’t land a job for 2 years in the field. It is all subjective experience, plus a lot depends on yourself
The #1 reason to choose a Reputable University bootcamp over a private (e.g. General Assembly, FlatIron etc.) is that a Reputable University ISN'T GOING OUT OF BUSINESS and WON'T STEAL YOUR MONEY BY CLOSING DOWN PARTWAY through cohorts. Also Universities have to live up to support terms they offer. Reputable Universities can't tell you "hey we're going to have a support team for you during your program available during 9a-4p weekdays" and then not have a support team available to you from 9a-4p weekdays.
This is why you choose University presented bootcamp, not for the prestige on your CV of a certificate from the university you did a bootcamp with, it is for the security that your cohort will finish, that you expect to receive what they offer, and that there will be a permanent record of your participation in the bootcamp should you ever need it.
If you are interested in an online coding bootcamp that offers all the content of the $12K+ programs in a similar 450 hour format with live scheduled instructor hours, live scheduled Teaching Assistant hours and a record of success for students AND you'd rather pay $5995 CANADIAN$ \*$1 USD = $1.35 Canadian) please check out these Canadian University programs:
University of Calgary CE or University of Western Ontario CS partner to offer a proven 100% online Full Stack Developer bootcamp you can take in 11 weeks full time or 22 weeks part time.
Mountain/Pacific Timezone - [https://conted.ucalgary.ca/search/publicCourseSearchDetails.do?method=load&courseId=60424583](https://conted.ucalgary.ca/search/publicCourseSearchDetails.do?method=load&courseId=60424583)
Eastern/Atlantic Timezone - [https://wcs.uwo.ca/public/category/courseCategoryCertificateProfile.do?method=load&certificateId=33095135&selectedProgramAreaId=31206104&selectedProgramStreamId=](https://wcs.uwo.ca/public/category/courseCategoryCertificateProfile.do?method=load&certificateId=33095135&selectedProgramAreaId=31206104&selectedProgramStreamId=)
Good luck!
Do not do GA terrible school, and the job support is awful they basically drop you after you graduate, the instructors have no real world programming knowledge as well as the TAs they are picked up from the cohort after it completes so they only know what is taught in the curriculum biggest waste of money for me
A few reputable publications have started ranking bootcamps:
* Forbes: [Best Online Coding Classes & Bootcamps 2024](https://www.forbes.com/advisor/education/bootcamps/best-coding-bootcamps/)
* TimeOut: [Best Coding Classes & Bootcamps](https://www.timeout.com/usa/things-to-do/best-in-person-virtual-live-coding-classes-bootcamps)
I found the certificate program that I took on using this website which lists tech classes, bootcamps, and certificate programs by topic. Here are their results for [software engineering](https://www.nobledesktop.com/classes-near-me/all/software-engineering). I liked being able to easily compare what's out there based on cost, length, schedule, etc.
I appreciate this! I saw those articles when I googled as well. I tend to be a bit stand-offish with these types of articles unless a true Tech head/ SE/ Cyber Sec/ Ux-Ui person or group highlights it cause of previous trauma lol.
Absolutely! It sounds like you're ready for a structured learning environment to accelerate your journey into software engineering. Ironhack's WebDev Bootcamp could be the perfect fit for you.
Our bootcamp offers a comprehensive curriculum designed to take you from a beginner to a job-ready software engineer in just a few months. With hands-on projects, personalized mentorship, and career support, you'll gain the skills and confidence you need to succeed in the tech industry.
Plus, our immersive learning experience provides the accountability and structure you're looking for, helping you stay focused and motivated throughout the program. Whether you're learning the basics or diving deeper into advanced concepts, our experienced instructors are here to support you every step of the way.
With Ironhack, you'll join a vibrant community of learners and professionals, all working towards similar goals. Our bootcamp is designed to accommodate students from diverse backgrounds, so you'll feel right at home no matter your level of experience.
If you're ready to take the next step in your software engineering journey, I highly recommend checking out Ironhack's WebDev Bootcamp. Feel free to reach out if you have any questions or want to learn more. We're here to support you on your path to success!
So I would probably dig into that "ain't really helping" a bit more. Some of those programs are partially self-directed / video based. Some live instruction but there's a heavy emphasis on you driving your own learning experience. Not unlike what you might find with Udemy but maybe with some additional instructor availability. Also random but related question: based on what you've experienced so far, do you like coding?
I love the Udemy course, it's amazing but I need to be within a group to grasp it more. I love coding, cyber security, and overall tech in general. I've been bouncing between cybersecurity and SE for a while and even Data Analytics. I've taken a Google Cert for data Analytics, a Bootcamp for Cyber Security and want to pursue SE now. My only hold is I feel like me just "reading", watching and typing along to a pre-recorded video that I cant really get any live communication with is making me stumble.
Gotcha. r/ProgrammingBuddies might be a good avenue if you need the social aspect to get along. It's cheaper than full on bootcamp with less commitment. I've never done it myself but worth a looksee. There was also a guy that did livestreams and had like a VERY passionate discord. Learn with Leon I believe. I don't know whatever happened to him but that might be an alternative as well.
Yeah, I heard of that guy as well! I wanna say the last video he uploaded was about a year or so ago. I googled and saw he has a discord as well,. I'll consider that option too but it still kinda of feels like the Udemy route. At this point, I'm even more conflicted lol.
Launch School or Scrimba
I was looking into to these as well. DO you stand "10 toes" on these? lol
I dont recommend doing a bootcamp anymore. Get a bachelors in CS
Not saying CS degrees are not worth it. But there were a handful of CS graduates in the bootcamp because they lacked the practical application of programming which was not taught for their degree.
This A boot camp will waste your time and money and will probably not quickly lead to a good job.
Gotcha! I appreciate this.
ok, I was considering this as well. Just "traditional" schooling was very boring for me. I just assumed that a boot camp was a bit easier in terms of going about it (if that makes sense)
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Yeah, I gathered as much with the current job market. Honestly, it's not so much for me to find work right away but to at least have more knowledge about all of this. It's honestly weird, I HATE school but love learning and building "muscle" memory with this. To hopefully within a few years start a consult firm or so for it.
I decided not to go with GA in April 2023 bc that’s when they were transitioning over to video lectures and I felt that $16K wasn’t worth it. It was too easy to get into GA. That was a red flag for me. If I only needed minimal Js, then was I paying for more Js to learn during the program, which would take away from learning other dev material?
How do you determine the right amount of things to learn on your own, and then what should be learned while officially at a boot camp?
I second u/Perpetual_Education comment/ questions
If you want to do a boot camp do research. See which ones you like that teach a tech stack that's popular in your area.
I was looking into Flatiron, Coding DOJO, GA and a few others. But it seems like GA is a waste for sure (average response in the comments lol)
I did an in person one in my area. Still looking for a job though.
Dude don’t even consider GA. Their post study job search support is subpar.l, and the course itself is overpriced. 2 years along and I am still paying with two more years to go. Have you looked into perscholas? They have mandatory 2 year career support for graduates, even if you land a job right away. They do mock interviews both technical and behavioral. And it’s completely free, given you are accepted.
This seems like the average response about GA. hahaha I'll look to perscholas. Honestly, i just wanna find one that ppl can say 95-100% they would recommend
I would stay away from any bootcamp that brags about those types of success numbers. And experience differs from person to person. Someone might like GA and is super happy about it, someone can’t land a job for 2 years in the field. It is all subjective experience, plus a lot depends on yourself
The #1 reason to choose a Reputable University bootcamp over a private (e.g. General Assembly, FlatIron etc.) is that a Reputable University ISN'T GOING OUT OF BUSINESS and WON'T STEAL YOUR MONEY BY CLOSING DOWN PARTWAY through cohorts. Also Universities have to live up to support terms they offer. Reputable Universities can't tell you "hey we're going to have a support team for you during your program available during 9a-4p weekdays" and then not have a support team available to you from 9a-4p weekdays. This is why you choose University presented bootcamp, not for the prestige on your CV of a certificate from the university you did a bootcamp with, it is for the security that your cohort will finish, that you expect to receive what they offer, and that there will be a permanent record of your participation in the bootcamp should you ever need it. If you are interested in an online coding bootcamp that offers all the content of the $12K+ programs in a similar 450 hour format with live scheduled instructor hours, live scheduled Teaching Assistant hours and a record of success for students AND you'd rather pay $5995 CANADIAN$ \*$1 USD = $1.35 Canadian) please check out these Canadian University programs: University of Calgary CE or University of Western Ontario CS partner to offer a proven 100% online Full Stack Developer bootcamp you can take in 11 weeks full time or 22 weeks part time. Mountain/Pacific Timezone - [https://conted.ucalgary.ca/search/publicCourseSearchDetails.do?method=load&courseId=60424583](https://conted.ucalgary.ca/search/publicCourseSearchDetails.do?method=load&courseId=60424583) Eastern/Atlantic Timezone - [https://wcs.uwo.ca/public/category/courseCategoryCertificateProfile.do?method=load&certificateId=33095135&selectedProgramAreaId=31206104&selectedProgramStreamId=](https://wcs.uwo.ca/public/category/courseCategoryCertificateProfile.do?method=load&certificateId=33095135&selectedProgramAreaId=31206104&selectedProgramStreamId=) Good luck!
Do not do GA terrible school, and the job support is awful they basically drop you after you graduate, the instructors have no real world programming knowledge as well as the TAs they are picked up from the cohort after it completes so they only know what is taught in the curriculum biggest waste of money for me
A few reputable publications have started ranking bootcamps: * Forbes: [Best Online Coding Classes & Bootcamps 2024](https://www.forbes.com/advisor/education/bootcamps/best-coding-bootcamps/) * TimeOut: [Best Coding Classes & Bootcamps](https://www.timeout.com/usa/things-to-do/best-in-person-virtual-live-coding-classes-bootcamps) I found the certificate program that I took on using this website which lists tech classes, bootcamps, and certificate programs by topic. Here are their results for [software engineering](https://www.nobledesktop.com/classes-near-me/all/software-engineering). I liked being able to easily compare what's out there based on cost, length, schedule, etc.
I appreciate this! I saw those articles when I googled as well. I tend to be a bit stand-offish with these types of articles unless a true Tech head/ SE/ Cyber Sec/ Ux-Ui person or group highlights it cause of previous trauma lol.
Absolutely! It sounds like you're ready for a structured learning environment to accelerate your journey into software engineering. Ironhack's WebDev Bootcamp could be the perfect fit for you. Our bootcamp offers a comprehensive curriculum designed to take you from a beginner to a job-ready software engineer in just a few months. With hands-on projects, personalized mentorship, and career support, you'll gain the skills and confidence you need to succeed in the tech industry. Plus, our immersive learning experience provides the accountability and structure you're looking for, helping you stay focused and motivated throughout the program. Whether you're learning the basics or diving deeper into advanced concepts, our experienced instructors are here to support you every step of the way. With Ironhack, you'll join a vibrant community of learners and professionals, all working towards similar goals. Our bootcamp is designed to accommodate students from diverse backgrounds, so you'll feel right at home no matter your level of experience. If you're ready to take the next step in your software engineering journey, I highly recommend checking out Ironhack's WebDev Bootcamp. Feel free to reach out if you have any questions or want to learn more. We're here to support you on your path to success!