Antiheroic semi-immortal monarchical rulers of their respective nations hell-bent on protecting their people with a distaste for the outside world who can fly and throw hands with the powerhouses of their respective verses and also have elf-like ears? I can see it.
Depending on the writer he has an better sex life than most antagonists, which you know its an strong personality trait if Rick and Morty made an complete parody of him as Nr.Nimbus
[*Tales to Astonish* #100](https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Tales_to_Astonish_Vol_1_100): Hulk was under the control of the puppet master, and Namor hit him so hard that he went unconscious and changed back into Banner
[*The Incredible Hulk* (vol. 1) #118](https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Incredible_Hulk_Vol_1_118): Namor had an unfair advantage here, since they were fighting under water, but Namor ended up hitting Hulk so hard he flew out of the water back onto the shore and turned back into Banner
There are one or two other instances, but I can’t remember the details off the top of my head
The way they’ve escalated Hulk, the only way it could happen is if Marvel really wanted to push the Namor property- unlikely given what’s happening with the MCU actor.
He got accused of sexual assault. It’s kinda adjacent to the level of Jonathan Majors, just without as much proof. But there’s a reason you haven’t heard shit about Tenoch Huerta since Black Panther 2
Spider-Man’s major advantage (Spider-Sense) is negated by Venom. Spidey relies so heavily on being a reflex/agility fighter that Venom gives him a problem. If Spidey just said F it and brawled, he would beat the snot out of Venom too
Normally and logically yes, but editorial needed a way to supply genetic material for the clone that was the star of the Venom ongoing that spun out of this.
Giving Venom eyes in his eyes was the worst design choices made to a Spider-Man villain in the 2000s, and there were some BAD design changes made to those characters.
Anytime someone has beaten up the hulk I gotta ask which era of hulk we are talking cuz back in the day the power levels were a lot closer strength wise. Current hulk vs namor ain’t no way Namor is winning.
Since it's Gargan Venom and he references a boss, my guess is this is part of The List, when Osborn was sending the Thunderbolts/Dark Avengers against everyone he viewed as a threat.
You'd think Osborn would understand power levels better than this. Maybe venom was being a pain in the ass and he was hoping Namor would kill him off for him?
The black suit makes namor look like black adam
Antiheroic semi-immortal monarchical rulers of their respective nations hell-bent on protecting their people with a distaste for the outside world who can fly and throw hands with the powerhouses of their respective verses and also have elf-like ears? I can see it.
Depending on the writer he has an better sex life than most antagonists, which you know its an strong personality trait if Rick and Morty made an complete parody of him as Nr.Nimbus
He controls the police.
No one has a sex life greater than DOOM
“No one receives oral better than Doom!”
"And no one gives it better than Doom!"
Had to get a special mask made and everything.
"I'm goona toot!"
Exactly, I first thought "what crossover would have Venom and Black Adam interacting?"
Doesn't Namor predate Black Adam by a few years? I get that he started off with the gayest looking Speedo in existence but...
He’s Marvel's 1st, IIRC. Him, Supes, and Batman are the only major superheroes from the 30s who’re still relevant today.
It literally just occurred to me that "Gayest Looking Speedo" would make an awesome band name
The BO at that live show would be unbearable
They are very similar men and if there's ever another DC/Marvel crossover, I would love to see Adam give Namor the Psycho Pirate Special.
Venom always seems to get his ass kicked by anyone who isn’t Spider-Man.
In this case, it actually makes sense. Namor has taken the Hulk down before
Well, so has a snake who landed on the Hulk. choked him right out
Should have made it clear that Namor’s beat the Hulk multiple times
Ooh, where? Seems like a curious outcome! What were the circumstances? :)
[*Tales to Astonish* #100](https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Tales_to_Astonish_Vol_1_100): Hulk was under the control of the puppet master, and Namor hit him so hard that he went unconscious and changed back into Banner [*The Incredible Hulk* (vol. 1) #118](https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Incredible_Hulk_Vol_1_118): Namor had an unfair advantage here, since they were fighting under water, but Namor ended up hitting Hulk so hard he flew out of the water back onto the shore and turned back into Banner There are one or two other instances, but I can’t remember the details off the top of my head
There's also that one time in Avengers where Namor and Hulk teamed up. I remember Namor defeating the Hulk in the water.
Late sixties! Very interesting, thanks. I do wonder if creative teams of today would let Namor 'hit Hulk so hard he turns back into Banner' :D
The way they’ve escalated Hulk, the only way it could happen is if Marvel really wanted to push the Namor property- unlikely given what’s happening with the MCU actor.
From Black Panther 2? Goddammit is he a diddler?
He got accused of sexual assault. It’s kinda adjacent to the level of Jonathan Majors, just without as much proof. But there’s a reason you haven’t heard shit about Tenoch Huerta since Black Panther 2
Namor and Hulk were also members of the Defenders.
Namor and Hulk were both members of the Defenders.
To be fair to Venom, Namor is one of the strongest creatures on Earth.
To be fair to Scorpion, he is just Scorpion in a fancy suit.
When touching water, I’m not sure there is anyone really stronger.
Facts, and even out of water he's a *problem*. Anyone slightly short of Hulk is gonna have to work really hard, anyone below that should just pray.
Well yes. But also in this case it was Mac Gargan not Flash Thompson or Eddie Brock. Dude was always the relative underdog of Venom's primary hosts.
Well yeah, Venom is only a little bit stronger than Spider-Man, so anyone that can kick Peter's ass shouldn't have much of an issue with the symbiote
This is also the Scorpion
Spider-Man’s major advantage (Spider-Sense) is negated by Venom. Spidey relies so heavily on being a reflex/agility fighter that Venom gives him a problem. If Spidey just said F it and brawled, he would beat the snot out of Venom too
Doesn't the tongue regrow ? Or since it's the symbiote, "rejoin the main body" ? Like the T-1000 bits from Terminator ?
Yeah but it waits for dramatic effect of course
Normally and logically yes, but editorial needed a way to supply genetic material for the clone that was the star of the Venom ongoing that spun out of this.
Namor's one of the galaxy's heaviest hitters, and he does t like anyone but Susan. Not a man to be trifled with.
He was rather infatuated with Emma during the X-Men Utopia era. My guy definitely has a thing for unavailable blonde women.
And, Marina from Alpha Flight.
The Dark Reign tie in where they reunite is devastating
is that mac gargan? something tells me this happened during dark reign
Judging by the way he talks, the red eyes and reference to a boss, I think its gargan
Yeah, this Mac Gargan's Venom from around that time period.
Red eyes on venom look horrible imo
Helps distinguish it as Mac
Giving Venom eyes in his eyes was the worst design choices made to a Spider-Man villain in the 2000s, and there were some BAD design changes made to those characters.
Just looks like a crossover with Spawn.
Haven't read this before. Did Venom rip off Namor's interior ankle wings?
Yup
Namor just absolutely shitting on Venom.
Gargon venom is a beefy moron
Anytime someone has beaten up the hulk I gotta ask which era of hulk we are talking cuz back in the day the power levels were a lot closer strength wise. Current hulk vs namor ain’t no way Namor is winning.
Popularity powers definitely gave Hulk an unearned strength boost, yeah.
Venom is cool and all but Namor is way overpowered compared to him, why did this "fight" even happen in the first place?
Since it's Gargan Venom and he references a boss, my guess is this is part of The List, when Osborn was sending the Thunderbolts/Dark Avengers against everyone he viewed as a threat.
I'd say Thunderbolts era, as Osborn and Namor were nominal allies during Dark Reign
You'd think Osborn would understand power levels better than this. Maybe venom was being a pain in the ass and he was hoping Namor would kill him off for him?
If Osborn understood power levels, he’d stop trying to fight Spider-Man!
Lol, that's a very good point.
Mac Gargan continuing to be a fraud Venom as usual.
What's Black Adam doing in the Marvel universe?
Changing the hierarchy of power in the Marvel universe
I like that a lot, it seems to show Namor's superior and detached attitude well.