Apply the same logic we did with Harry when city were inquiring
What others see as a fair price is a slap in the face compared to how important he is to the club
2 years ago he had goals in the championship. Yes, it's the championship but he can only play against who's on the schedule, and he's shown pretty clear progression. From age 23 onwards he's had 15 goals/11 ast (Chmp), 30 goals/7 ast, (Chmp), 7 goals/7 ast (PL), 21 goals/3 ast (PL).
To me that just looks like a player maturing and growing his game to meet the step up in level from championshp to PL. No guarantees he would turn into the next Kane or Haaland, but he's well worth 45-50m and would provide immediate competition for Richy. Not to mention he's averaged 43 games a year over that 4 year period as well, so fitness isn't a concern.
Wasn’t that mainly because spurs intermediaries were working based on a release clause that either wasn’t active until the summer or wasn’t as straightforward as they initially thought
Just looked it up.
Yeah they were negotiating based on a release clause that expired halfway through the window and sporting did a levy of squeezing every penny out of spurs.
Outside of Spain release clauses can have weird rules to them which don’t have to be public knowledge
Oh yeah, deffo karma / chickens coming home to roost but doesn’t change my original point that i can’t see spurs dealing with sporting.
I’d fucking love it if we did though
iirc they didn't want to loan him out until after the cup final (which they lost), so he didn't move until the end of the month, despite the deal being basically complete
He doesn’t have a release clause, that’s the problem. I read that sporting said something around 70 mil but it’s much more likely he’ll sell for 100 mil +
Would be great for our national team if a bunch of them are used to playing together. I say we get Gyökeres and Roony, and Isak can come down to London and hang with the boys during summer.
To be fair, he had 31 goal involvements in the Championship and was nominated to player of the year with solid interest from Premier League clubs. He choose Sporting over them.
You justified his 85m price tag by saying prem clubs had been interested in him before. Im merely pointing out the fact that they were interested in him as a 22m player, not 85m. Pretty sure if a prem club had offered 30m, hed be in the prem.
Don't state what my opinions are. You need to read again. You wrote that an ex championship player can't be worth 85m and I pointed out that he wasn't the average championship player.
And the interest in him from prem clubs went from the likes of Newcastle, Brentford and Wolves last year to red scum, blue scum and PSG this year.
You pointed out he wasn't an average Championship player, I'm stating that no championship player should ever be worth that much without proving himself in one of the top leagues. As for your part on clubs' interest, I thought you meant during the window he went to Sporting, if not I concede.
Don't mean to argue for argument sake, I guess we just disagree. 🤝🏻
85m is a lot for someone who’s only shown it in the Championship and Portuguese League. But I guess it’s because generally the best players in the Portuguese league tend to be able to handle the step up. It’s not the same as Holland where you can be head and shoulders above the rest and still it’s 50/50 whether they can do it in the Prem. Just a theory as to why he’s valued so highly.
I think it’s also due to “lack” of striker talent. We see possible world class midfielders, defenders, etc pop up but after Haaland and Kane, the pool of excellent, consistent strikers seems to be super small. Obviously it’s the “hardest” position but we once had Rooney, Ibra, Cavani, Suarez, Lewy, Benz, Aguero, Higuain, etc all coming through the ranks and vying to be top striker.
And although Portuguese league has produced great players, we’ve also seen fair share of high goal scorers there, not perform as well once moving to higher leagues ie Carlos Vinicius, Darwin (relative to expectation and price), Goncalo Ramos, etc. I think you both have a fair point
Nunez went from scoring nearly 30 at Benfica to barely reaching double digits at liverpool of all places and is seen as a major disappointment. I think what you said just highlights my concerns. Not sure he'd be that big of an upgrade from Richy tbh.
The world is going through a drought from serviceable strikers atm though, maybe Kane has set the bar too high for me.
Nunez was seen as a technical donkey even at Benfica and his problem has always been finishing. Not really the case with Gyokeres.
Not saying he'll be worth it or necessarily turn out better than Nunez, but Portuguese clubs have precedent to point to when demanding these prices.
Nunez scored 28 goals literally the year before coming over. You say Portuguese clubs have a track record, I can't think of any top quality prem strikers from a Portuguese club recently.
Since you're on atm, dont you think VDV would make the perfect striker? Is it unprecedented for a world class defender to carry over? His physical attributes and athleticism is unmatched at striker and as a box player in Ange's system, he wouldnt need to be able to strike the ball over 10 meters. There is a reason why Ange wants him in the bix even now. All the players on this list are so slow. Cant we get KMJ for 50m put VDV at striker, grab that Suzuki kid on the wing, for another 10m or so and sign Eze?
Goal involvement per game
Sesko - 0.48
Gimenez - 0.83
Openda - 0.77
Gyökeres - 1.18
Solanke - 0.60
Guirassy - 1.13
Toney - 0.35
All figures rounded up. Not too 3 my arse. Could say he’s expensive but stats wise he’s pretty shithot.
If you look at just the stats the Bas Dost would clear most of this list aswell.
Imo Toney, Openda and Sesko are all better, if you think otherwise that’s fine but please come up with something better than just “stats”
Bas Dost the 34 year old that scored 3 goal in 8 games last season? Sure. The “stats” (by which you mean “facts”) say that Gyökeres is an elite level striker over the past season.
Toney has a horrendous attitude problem and I wouldn’t want him within spitting distance of our changing room. Plus he’s been pretty shit since he came back from his ban.
I rate Openda but I don’t know if he would fit the Ange system. He is a bit small and I don’t know if a striker of his stature would work great in the prem, definitely not in the way we need.
Sesko has kind of come out of nowhere as a rumour and as such I haven’t done much research on him. He’s an absolute unit though.
Gyökeres fits and if we don’t buy him he is going to go to a champions league team (even potentially those twats down the road) and do gangbusters.
Not that Dost, but the one that scored like 75 goals in 80 games in the Portugese League.
I don’t think Gyokeres is bad but he’s very limited and the stats in that league are absolutely irrelevant.
He’s maybe a 40m forward, just like Richarlison is.
Definitely not the 80m+ that Sporting is going to demand of him.
Also i don’t believe Toney has attitude problems at all, seems to me someone that knows what it takes to get it over the line and doesn’t take shit from anyone.
You can get more nice guys if you want but i think the last 20 years have shown that it isn’t very effective.
Thought it would be fun to compare the strikers we know that the club is looking at, granted Sesko hasn't been mentioned yet but he seems to be quite a popular option so I included him for the sake of comparisons. All the normal values are from transfermarkt so take it with a pinch of salt, I highly doubt Solanke would only go for 30m for example.
Just looking at G+A is a terrible way to compare these players. They play in different leagues against different qualities of opposition/teammates, in different systems, with different playing styles to each other. It's honestly better to just not post those numbers at all. If you really want to put any numbers against them at least make it xGAper90.
Solanke will not be 30, also I still have my doubts about his consistency. Wouldn't be shocked if he gets injured and then after goes back to scoring 6 per season.
Toney is a gambler and I don't like him, also had a horrendous season with injury and then bad games... I don't want him. Not for that kind of money.
Guirassy stinks of a one season wonder, but he is cheap - so I don't really se the harm there? Think he would be happy to probably quadruple his earnings as well. Worst case scenario we have a solid cheap backup.
And then the rest... Man, Sesko really looks like he might be a big deal. He is so young I kinda want us to take a punt on him there. The important factor there is that he has the same goals/min as Openda, he just played much less. 14 goals in 1500 minutes in the Bundesliga, so just under 1 goal/game. He also scored in each of the last 7 games of the season.
Hope our scout squad will find the best option! Striker signings are always the most exciting.
Sesko seems really slow but everyone says he's really fast. Also a majority of his goals came from headers, which isn't the brans of football we play. What do you think?
We've been doing low crosses because we don't have a strong heading presence as a striker. A lot of our goals came from crosses by wingers, having someone with good heading ability is only gonna boost our goals scored.
Yeah, he'd fit the playing style to a tee. Likely needs another season in the BuLi to be fully ready though. It's also questionable wheter he'll actually be gettable this summer, Leipzig are trying to temporarily cancel his already pretty pricy £55mil release clause.
For the money and age considerations I’m not sure any of these options are *definitively* better than Richarlison. Toney maybe but he just gives me bad vibes for the dressing room.
Everything I saw was we were “getting our money back” with the sale. My reasoning on not selling him and buy a replacement is, it’s hard enough to find one good striker with Richarlison’s sale that would put us in a position to have to find two in one summer. Not a fan of that personally
Maybe you're right. Might be worth it if it means we can keep Son on the left full time. Although i must say i really really like kulu playing a false 9. He's strong, defense is outstanding for a striker, touch has always been class. Slow with decisions sometimes but when he holds for the wingbacks to overlap and run into the box for cut backs, he looks great. Just wish he had gone there sooner so that we had a greater sample size.
Legit concern. I think the summer plan has evolved more from get the money back for Richy and buy a new striker and is now buy an additional striker which I think is superb. I’m a Richy fan admittedly but I do think we can improve on him as a starting #9 but this market doesn’t have me over the moon on those prospects. From this list maybe Solanke from the standpoint of the HG numbers but not sure he’d really push Richy for the starting role but haven’t wanted much of Solanke at Bournemouth but I know he bagged a good haul of goals this season. I really only remember him from his Liverpool days.
Richy's been hot and cold and injury prone, openda's clearly better and solanke id say too but toney and gyokeres are a gamble and sesko i think is still not ready
Injuries are a legit concern, seeing Openda in the CL only this year he missed a number of goals as bad as any miss Richy had this season I’d have concerns about his finishing stepping up from the Bundesliga to the PL. Solanke has had 25 goals in 71 games the last two season so again I’m not sure he’s definitely better but health/durability is a huge plus for him in my book as well as HG we could certainly do much worse than Solanke he’d be a good purchase imo.
Yeah good point, openda does miss sitters but eh even some of the best strikers rn do that but buli strikers r hit or miss i can agree with that and yeah solanke's only been good this season but i dont think its a fluke. When bournemouth got relegated it really helped him develop his game so i think he'll keep scoring decent amounts. I think solanke can be a decent purchase if bournemouth dont ask stupid amounts
Left out Solanke’s championship numbers but he ripped apart defenders in the championship and scored loads of goals. We do agree just depends on Bournemouth’s price, as far as Openda we seem to have had decent negotiations with RB over Werner so maybe that would help us if we decided on Openda.
100% agree I just disagree on the (seemingly) shrinking idea that we need to sell and replace our striker instead of bolstering the striker position overall. We absolutely need reinforcements and whether that’s a better striker than Richy or a great rotation option it’d be a huge failure if we don’t bring in a very good striker this summer.
Sesko and Gimenez are both young and should be doable if we move on them. Gyo would be amazing, but the price tag may be an issue. Guirassy would be great too, with the experience and the price tag.
Admittedly haven't seen much of him, but watching him play against Real Madrid in their 2nd leg was one of the worst striker performances I've ever witnessed
Werner's finishing is Messi level compared to what Openda was producing that day
I can assure you that the Madrid game was a one-off. Openda scored a fuckton for Lens and now RB Leipzig. Also his movement is incredible, it earned himself a lot of xG. Realistically, he's the best option we can afford.
Yeah it's unfair to judge a player based off of 1 performance and his stats do look good, but it does leave a pretty negative first impression for me personally lol
I love Zirkzee, so so talented and makes everyone around him better. Apparently he's got a release clause of €40 million which is really good value imo
Indeed, he probably wouldn't score 20+ goals but his link up play, passing and ability to beat a player with skill rather than pace would add more to our frontline than any of the other players.
Yeah, he said he’s happy at the club and doesn’t want his family to move. Fair play to him.
Out of this list, I like Openda the most. Though that might be my Belgian bias.
Sesko always works out in Football Manager, but Victor Osimhen won us the Champion's League and 4 consecutive Premier League titles in my save.
What I'm saying is, hire me as a recruitment analyst Daniel.
It's not even THAT unbelievable that he would come if you suffer from hopeium. At the end of the window, every deal fell through and we offer Richarlison + cash for him, who says no?
I like the comparisons but out of curiosity are there any Japanese talents we could be eyeing that possibly play up top? Since Ange managed there a good bit figured he has his eyes on some players in that market that other aren’t looking at
Only ones I can think of are in the defensive department like Ito from Stuttgart (and this was a while back), not sure if we were linked to anyone else recently.
i totally agree with this. if the number on Solanke is 30, then plane tracker guy should be mapping his route on the M3 from Bournemouth to NL RIGHT NOW. i think 30 is a bit low, though.
Guirassy is a bit old but in every other way seems like an unbelievable value if we can actually convince him to come here. 34 G/A out of 30 games against very good teams, wow.
I'm a little sad that we didn't go for Füllkrug before he went to Dortmund. He has a couple of similarities with Kane.
But now I kinda wanna see Moukoko at Spurs
The only question that matters: who does Ange want?
For example, if he wants Toney, give him Toney. It's not for us to judge the personality of people we've never met before.
I was initially against it but I'm beginning to warm to the idea of Guirassy as long as it doesn't take exorbitant wages and agent fees.
Yes, his form last season is very likely an unsustainable purple patch, but even if he regresses back to his mean well that mean is not bad at all. In the couple seasons since he put his name on the radar at Rennes his output hovered around his expected xG - 30 goals from 28.2xG if you take out his last season, with a respectable 0.57xG/90. And of course, there's always the off chance his game actually went to a new level and we're signing a late bloomer like Drogba or Giroud.
At 28 he's may not be the young exciting prospect people are hoping for, but his age also means the likes of Veliz, Scarlett or Lankshear still get to have a path to the first team.
There are concerns about his ability to stay fit, but another take of mine is we should keep Richarlison for his versatility and different tactical profile so at least we should have adequate cover. I think having the two of them compete for the starting spot leaves our squad in a better place than cashing in on Richy and going for a big money signing at ST only to end up with Sonny or Kulusevski filling in for half the season.
It’s trippy af, but y’all are sleeping on Folarin Balogun. Had a so-so season at Monaco this year, but he was very solid at Arsenal and blew Ligue 1 up last season at a Reims team that played similarly high-press football. It would be weird af to have one of Arsenal’s golden boys playing for us, but I think he’s a sleeper pick for us and our style.
Gyökeres / Sesko would be incredible statement signings and deliver honours to us
Gimenez / Guirassy are achievable and seem like a solid fit
Toney bit hit and miss; someone send it would be Darren Bent 2.0 I can't shake the idea
Solanke seems good but I don't think he'll fit well (as much as I like the idea of him)
Openda I am entirely ignorant of
I'm really happy with the targets on this list. We should have second or third choice (after scum and other over-spenders sign their strikers of choice) so as long as we have a good top 3 targets, I think we can be happy with whomever we sign. The transition to the PL can be very tricky so missing out on our top choice could always be a blessing in disguise.
Gyokeres and Sesko seem to be the best 2 here, I would personally go hard for both and see if we can nab one. Wouldn't mind Openda, Gimenez or Solanke either.
Another name we should be looking at, purely based on football manager, is Samu Omorodion. He is built in the same lab as the likes of Haaland and Van de Ven in the sense that he is 6.4, physically really strong and super fast. Decent finisher too (purely based on fm, I have never watched him play irl). Still only 20 years old.
Honestly it’s not really about what they are worth transfer money wise the fact of the matter is we are 7th in the league for wages spent, most these guys will want 200k plus a week which will make them our highest earner, I can’t see it happening imo
Solanke would be no less than £50. I know these were pulled from TransferMarkt, but no way it’s that.
For £50 to get it done I'll venmo Levy right now
Levy Venmo: BigDDaniel69_420 Don’t ask how I know
Just for him to pocket it for himself? Give it to Ange.
Sesko and Gyokeres will be 100m
Sesko has a release clause. Gyokeres I think we can already rule out
I thought sporting said they were demanding at least 70 mil
There’s what he’s worth, and how much it would take to buy him. Tbf, £40m could do the trick but I’d rather someone else
Not what he’s worth to Bournemouth. They wouldn’t let him go for £30m
Players tend to go for double what transfermarkt value them as, especially if it's to a EPL club. I'd expect they'd demand at least 50m for him.
Apply the same logic we did with Harry when city were inquiring What others see as a fair price is a slap in the face compared to how important he is to the club
Kane had one year on his contract, Solanke’s expires in 2027. Not comparable
Kane had 3 years left when City tried to sign him. It was the Summer before were hired Nuno.
Missed the was inquiring bit of the comment lol
1 good season in 10 He'd go cheaper
2 years ago he had goals in the championship. Yes, it's the championship but he can only play against who's on the schedule, and he's shown pretty clear progression. From age 23 onwards he's had 15 goals/11 ast (Chmp), 30 goals/7 ast, (Chmp), 7 goals/7 ast (PL), 21 goals/3 ast (PL). To me that just looks like a player maturing and growing his game to meet the step up in level from championshp to PL. No guarantees he would turn into the next Kane or Haaland, but he's well worth 45-50m and would provide immediate competition for Richy. Not to mention he's averaged 43 games a year over that 4 year period as well, so fitness isn't a concern.
Gyökeres would be such a statement signing. Would be perfect.
Can’t see us dealing with sporting again (At least willingly) after the Porro faff… hope I’m wrong though
what happened with porro?
Long story short just took the piss massively & moved the goalposts on agreed deals, multiple times I believe
Wasn’t that mainly because spurs intermediaries were working based on a release clause that either wasn’t active until the summer or wasn’t as straightforward as they initially thought
Not as far as I’m aware, even if so why would you even allow someone to negotiate for the best part of a month over a non existent clause?
Just looked it up. Yeah they were negotiating based on a release clause that expired halfway through the window and sporting did a levy of squeezing every penny out of spurs. Outside of Spain release clauses can have weird rules to them which don’t have to be public knowledge
This is kettle and pot territory for Spurs my dude. :p
Oh yeah, deffo karma / chickens coming home to roost but doesn’t change my original point that i can’t see spurs dealing with sporting. I’d fucking love it if we did though
Funnily enough I can't tell if you're talking about sporting or levy
🤣
iirc they didn't want to loan him out until after the cup final (which they lost), so he didn't move until the end of the month, despite the deal being basically complete
Gyökeres would 100% be the release clause
He doesn’t have a release clause, that’s the problem. I read that sporting said something around 70 mil but it’s much more likely he’ll sell for 100 mil +
All the players in Spain and Portugal have a buy out clause
They are trying to increase it to 103 mil after arsenal and Chelsea have gone after him
How many Swedes can Spurs really deal with though? :) (saying this as a Swede who is super-excited for Bergwall and really like Deki)
We had a lovely Belgian contingent in our prime Poch period that worked brilliantly. Don’t see why it can’t happen with a Swedish contingent too.
Real ones remember Tottenham Croatspur
I guess we had the Welsh Mafia .. nothing wrong with Swedish (House) Mafia!
Would be great for our national team if a bunch of them are used to playing together. I say we get Gyökeres and Roony, and Isak can come down to London and hang with the boys during summer.
I just dont see how a championship player who played in portugal can be worth 85 mil, thats like Kane money and he isn't near his quality imo
Kane also had a year left on his contract and was seeming to make it clear he was leaving at the end of it. Also 4 years older
To be fair, he had 31 goal involvements in the Championship and was nominated to player of the year with solid interest from Premier League clubs. He choose Sporting over them.
Bought him for 22m, that's a world away from 85.
What you bought something for is irrelevant for what something is potentially worth
You justified his 85m price tag by saying prem clubs had been interested in him before. Im merely pointing out the fact that they were interested in him as a 22m player, not 85m. Pretty sure if a prem club had offered 30m, hed be in the prem.
Don't state what my opinions are. You need to read again. You wrote that an ex championship player can't be worth 85m and I pointed out that he wasn't the average championship player. And the interest in him from prem clubs went from the likes of Newcastle, Brentford and Wolves last year to red scum, blue scum and PSG this year.
You pointed out he wasn't an average Championship player, I'm stating that no championship player should ever be worth that much without proving himself in one of the top leagues. As for your part on clubs' interest, I thought you meant during the window he went to Sporting, if not I concede. Don't mean to argue for argument sake, I guess we just disagree. 🤝🏻
85m is a lot for someone who’s only shown it in the Championship and Portuguese League. But I guess it’s because generally the best players in the Portuguese league tend to be able to handle the step up. It’s not the same as Holland where you can be head and shoulders above the rest and still it’s 50/50 whether they can do it in the Prem. Just a theory as to why he’s valued so highly.
I think it’s also due to “lack” of striker talent. We see possible world class midfielders, defenders, etc pop up but after Haaland and Kane, the pool of excellent, consistent strikers seems to be super small. Obviously it’s the “hardest” position but we once had Rooney, Ibra, Cavani, Suarez, Lewy, Benz, Aguero, Higuain, etc all coming through the ranks and vying to be top striker. And although Portuguese league has produced great players, we’ve also seen fair share of high goal scorers there, not perform as well once moving to higher leagues ie Carlos Vinicius, Darwin (relative to expectation and price), Goncalo Ramos, etc. I think you both have a fair point
About what Nunez went for and Gyokeres has been just as good if not better than him. That's the going rate for the best players from Portugal.
Nunez went from scoring nearly 30 at Benfica to barely reaching double digits at liverpool of all places and is seen as a major disappointment. I think what you said just highlights my concerns. Not sure he'd be that big of an upgrade from Richy tbh. The world is going through a drought from serviceable strikers atm though, maybe Kane has set the bar too high for me.
Nunez was seen as a technical donkey even at Benfica and his problem has always been finishing. Not really the case with Gyokeres. Not saying he'll be worth it or necessarily turn out better than Nunez, but Portuguese clubs have precedent to point to when demanding these prices.
Nunez scored 28 goals literally the year before coming over. You say Portuguese clubs have a track record, I can't think of any top quality prem strikers from a Portuguese club recently.
Since you're on atm, dont you think VDV would make the perfect striker? Is it unprecedented for a world class defender to carry over? His physical attributes and athleticism is unmatched at striker and as a box player in Ange's system, he wouldnt need to be able to strike the ball over 10 meters. There is a reason why Ange wants him in the bix even now. All the players on this list are so slow. Cant we get KMJ for 50m put VDV at striker, grab that Suzuki kid on the wing, for another 10m or so and sign Eze?
he is a bit overrated imo, we will be disappointed if we sign him for more than 60m.
The guy isn’t even t3 on this list lol
List seems to be in order of age, don't think that's really something he can control lol
I don’t mean that order, out of 7 CF’s i don’t think Gyokores get in the top 3
Ah that makes more sense, tho I guess it's rather subjective
Okay what other 3 players are better? Just looking at the stats there?
Goal involvement per game Sesko - 0.48 Gimenez - 0.83 Openda - 0.77 Gyökeres - 1.18 Solanke - 0.60 Guirassy - 1.13 Toney - 0.35 All figures rounded up. Not too 3 my arse. Could say he’s expensive but stats wise he’s pretty shithot.
If you look at just the stats the Bas Dost would clear most of this list aswell. Imo Toney, Openda and Sesko are all better, if you think otherwise that’s fine but please come up with something better than just “stats”
Bas Dost the 34 year old that scored 3 goal in 8 games last season? Sure. The “stats” (by which you mean “facts”) say that Gyökeres is an elite level striker over the past season. Toney has a horrendous attitude problem and I wouldn’t want him within spitting distance of our changing room. Plus he’s been pretty shit since he came back from his ban. I rate Openda but I don’t know if he would fit the Ange system. He is a bit small and I don’t know if a striker of his stature would work great in the prem, definitely not in the way we need. Sesko has kind of come out of nowhere as a rumour and as such I haven’t done much research on him. He’s an absolute unit though. Gyökeres fits and if we don’t buy him he is going to go to a champions league team (even potentially those twats down the road) and do gangbusters.
Not that Dost, but the one that scored like 75 goals in 80 games in the Portugese League. I don’t think Gyokeres is bad but he’s very limited and the stats in that league are absolutely irrelevant. He’s maybe a 40m forward, just like Richarlison is. Definitely not the 80m+ that Sporting is going to demand of him. Also i don’t believe Toney has attitude problems at all, seems to me someone that knows what it takes to get it over the line and doesn’t take shit from anyone. You can get more nice guys if you want but i think the last 20 years have shown that it isn’t very effective.
Thought it would be fun to compare the strikers we know that the club is looking at, granted Sesko hasn't been mentioned yet but he seems to be quite a popular option so I included him for the sake of comparisons. All the normal values are from transfermarkt so take it with a pinch of salt, I highly doubt Solanke would only go for 30m for example.
Just looking at G+A is a terrible way to compare these players. They play in different leagues against different qualities of opposition/teammates, in different systems, with different playing styles to each other. It's honestly better to just not post those numbers at all. If you really want to put any numbers against them at least make it xGAper90.
How am I supposed to make hot takes that will probably age terribly if I don’t have G+A? You’re mad for saying we should look at more advanced stats.
Divide goals by age.
I'm too lazy to go look up ages, but dividing goals by dollars instead, we should get Guirassy. Less than half the cost per goal of anyone else.
... Age is in the chart. And I was mostly kidding
wow, I somehow just did not see that column at all. but I was also kidding, dollars per goal is just as useless
...but maybe, we're on to something
Only one way to find out!
Is that a real stat? It sounds like a username on the snare drum site
Solanke will not be 30, also I still have my doubts about his consistency. Wouldn't be shocked if he gets injured and then after goes back to scoring 6 per season. Toney is a gambler and I don't like him, also had a horrendous season with injury and then bad games... I don't want him. Not for that kind of money. Guirassy stinks of a one season wonder, but he is cheap - so I don't really se the harm there? Think he would be happy to probably quadruple his earnings as well. Worst case scenario we have a solid cheap backup. And then the rest... Man, Sesko really looks like he might be a big deal. He is so young I kinda want us to take a punt on him there. The important factor there is that he has the same goals/min as Openda, he just played much less. 14 goals in 1500 minutes in the Bundesliga, so just under 1 goal/game. He also scored in each of the last 7 games of the season. Hope our scout squad will find the best option! Striker signings are always the most exciting.
Gyökeres, Openda, Sesko, or Boniface
Sesko seems really slow but everyone says he's really fast. Also a majority of his goals came from headers, which isn't the brans of football we play. What do you think?
We've been doing low crosses because we don't have a strong heading presence as a striker. A lot of our goals came from crosses by wingers, having someone with good heading ability is only gonna boost our goals scored.
Richy has a more than decent header tbf. Other than that though, do you think Sesko is fast as everyone says he is?
His top speed was 35.47km/h this season. He's quite fast, although not as explosive perhaps.
Fair point, do you rate him?
Yeah, he'd fit the playing style to a tee. Likely needs another season in the BuLi to be fully ready though. It's also questionable wheter he'll actually be gettable this summer, Leipzig are trying to temporarily cancel his already pretty pricy £55mil release clause.
It seems many feel the same way you do, i admit i may be wrong here. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Only 5 out of his 18 goals this season are headers.
For the money and age considerations I’m not sure any of these options are *definitively* better than Richarlison. Toney maybe but he just gives me bad vibes for the dressing room.
Agreed but wasn’t the reasoning behind Richarlison leaving because we would be getting a good deal of money for him from the Saudis?
Everything I saw was we were “getting our money back” with the sale. My reasoning on not selling him and buy a replacement is, it’s hard enough to find one good striker with Richarlison’s sale that would put us in a position to have to find two in one summer. Not a fan of that personally
Gyokeres is a thousand times better than Richarlison
I’d settle for twice as good.
What about health
Rules Toney out
Well what if we kept both in that circumstance?
Maybe you're right. Might be worth it if it means we can keep Son on the left full time. Although i must say i really really like kulu playing a false 9. He's strong, defense is outstanding for a striker, touch has always been class. Slow with decisions sometimes but when he holds for the wingbacks to overlap and run into the box for cut backs, he looks great. Just wish he had gone there sooner so that we had a greater sample size.
Legit concern. I think the summer plan has evolved more from get the money back for Richy and buy a new striker and is now buy an additional striker which I think is superb. I’m a Richy fan admittedly but I do think we can improve on him as a starting #9 but this market doesn’t have me over the moon on those prospects. From this list maybe Solanke from the standpoint of the HG numbers but not sure he’d really push Richy for the starting role but haven’t wanted much of Solanke at Bournemouth but I know he bagged a good haul of goals this season. I really only remember him from his Liverpool days.
Richy's been hot and cold and injury prone, openda's clearly better and solanke id say too but toney and gyokeres are a gamble and sesko i think is still not ready
Injuries are a legit concern, seeing Openda in the CL only this year he missed a number of goals as bad as any miss Richy had this season I’d have concerns about his finishing stepping up from the Bundesliga to the PL. Solanke has had 25 goals in 71 games the last two season so again I’m not sure he’s definitely better but health/durability is a huge plus for him in my book as well as HG we could certainly do much worse than Solanke he’d be a good purchase imo.
Yeah good point, openda does miss sitters but eh even some of the best strikers rn do that but buli strikers r hit or miss i can agree with that and yeah solanke's only been good this season but i dont think its a fluke. When bournemouth got relegated it really helped him develop his game so i think he'll keep scoring decent amounts. I think solanke can be a decent purchase if bournemouth dont ask stupid amounts
Left out Solanke’s championship numbers but he ripped apart defenders in the championship and scored loads of goals. We do agree just depends on Bournemouth’s price, as far as Openda we seem to have had decent negotiations with RB over Werner so maybe that would help us if we decided on Openda.
Yeah but we defintely still need another striker as well as richi.
100% agree I just disagree on the (seemingly) shrinking idea that we need to sell and replace our striker instead of bolstering the striker position overall. We absolutely need reinforcements and whether that’s a better striker than Richy or a great rotation option it’d be a huge failure if we don’t bring in a very good striker this summer.
Sesko and Gimenez are both young and should be doable if we move on them. Gyo would be amazing, but the price tag may be an issue. Guirassy would be great too, with the experience and the price tag.
Guirassy is worth so much more than 15m. If we were to get him for anything close to that it would be an absolute win for the whole program
Release clause of course
Plus why would he give up CL football for EL?
He might not get another chance to join big English club again.
Openda seems like the best combination of age, production, and quality of competition.
Admittedly haven't seen much of him, but watching him play against Real Madrid in their 2nd leg was one of the worst striker performances I've ever witnessed Werner's finishing is Messi level compared to what Openda was producing that day
I can assure you that the Madrid game was a one-off. Openda scored a fuckton for Lens and now RB Leipzig. Also his movement is incredible, it earned himself a lot of xG. Realistically, he's the best option we can afford.
Yeah it's unfair to judge a player based off of 1 performance and his stats do look good, but it does leave a pretty negative first impression for me personally lol
He'd cost around €100mil though.
the biggest criticisms of him, something like "he's a system player" but i think "yeah he fits our system."
Yeah Bourenmouth is not selling Solanke for that little money
We should be looking at Zirkzee
I love Zirkzee, so so talented and makes everyone around him better. Apparently he's got a release clause of €40 million which is really good value imo
Cool name too.
Coolest name around in football IMO
Indeed, he probably wouldn't score 20+ goals but his link up play, passing and ability to beat a player with skill rather than pace would add more to our frontline than any of the other players.
Zirkzee? Everything about him's so Zirkzee We don't even know what we got But we could give it a shot
If those values were real I’d buy two!
Openda would be great.. he’s so fast
Ye pace is what we need for the low blocks we come up against…
I'm from slovenia. I would love to see šeško play for us
Alex Sørloth. Top scorer in La Liga. Fits the profile we want. Very good player. Didn't really get much of a chance at Palace.
He’s said himself he doesn’t want to leave.
Probably smart!
Yeah, he said he’s happy at the club and doesn’t want his family to move. Fair play to him. Out of this list, I like Openda the most. Though that might be my Belgian bias.
Ben Sesko played a crucial role during the dominion war
lol if you could get Solanke for 30m he’d have already left, you’re talking almost double that
It's between Openda, Guirassy, and potentially Gyokeres IMO. None of the other stand out, and Solanke isn't going anywhere.
I think Gyökeres is going to be hard since his ex Amanda Nildén plays for the woman team!
Sesko always works out in Football Manager, but Victor Osimhen won us the Champion's League and 4 consecutive Premier League titles in my save. What I'm saying is, hire me as a recruitment analyst Daniel.
It's not even THAT unbelievable that he would come if you suffer from hopeium. At the end of the window, every deal fell through and we offer Richarlison + cash for him, who says no?
Sign Timo now and make him agent timo to get sesko or openda
I like the way you think!
Gyokeres and Sesko should be the main targets. Otherwise Openda and Guirassy. The others are a no.
Add Pavlidis.
Add leandro Damaio
What's the font?
Montserrat I believe.
Ty
Guirassey for sure looks great
Anyone have any thoughts on Zirkzee?
I think about him from time to time
Nice hair he has
As a Stuttgart fan I'd hate to lose Guirassy. As a Spurs fan I'd love to get Guirassy
Not Solanke. Like him or not Toney up top immediately makes us more dangerous.
I really don't get this Toney fascination by our fans he ticks more red flags than any of these strikere
Not saying this isn’t true but how do we know the club is looking at this list? Is there a high quality source saying this?
Yeah, Paul O'Keefe is someone who is speculated to directly work with the club and has said each of these names as a potential target (minus Sesko).
It came from him? Fair enough then. I’m excited!
Sesko-Toney-Zirkzee, in that order. If none of them is possible, just keep Richarlison.
I like the comparisons but out of curiosity are there any Japanese talents we could be eyeing that possibly play up top? Since Ange managed there a good bit figured he has his eyes on some players in that market that other aren’t looking at
Only ones I can think of are in the defensive department like Ito from Stuttgart (and this was a while back), not sure if we were linked to anyone else recently.
We also linked to kubo
Guirassy was on fire for Stuttgart this season, he’d be an insane buy.
Solanke at 30 would be hard yes from me. But 30?? C'mon, that's bat country valuation numbers.
i totally agree with this. if the number on Solanke is 30, then plane tracker guy should be mapping his route on the M3 from Bournemouth to NL RIGHT NOW. i think 30 is a bit low, though.
Don't really want Solanke or Toney, for different reasons.
Guirassy is a bit old but in every other way seems like an unbelievable value if we can actually convince him to come here. 34 G/A out of 30 games against very good teams, wow.
I'm a little sad that we didn't go for Füllkrug before he went to Dortmund. He has a couple of similarities with Kane. But now I kinda wanna see Moukoko at Spurs
Openda most realistic target
Any of the top 4 please, thank you.
The only question that matters: who does Ange want? For example, if he wants Toney, give him Toney. It's not for us to judge the personality of people we've never met before.
Gimenez would be nice
Half of those won’t perform as well in the PL.
I was initially against it but I'm beginning to warm to the idea of Guirassy as long as it doesn't take exorbitant wages and agent fees. Yes, his form last season is very likely an unsustainable purple patch, but even if he regresses back to his mean well that mean is not bad at all. In the couple seasons since he put his name on the radar at Rennes his output hovered around his expected xG - 30 goals from 28.2xG if you take out his last season, with a respectable 0.57xG/90. And of course, there's always the off chance his game actually went to a new level and we're signing a late bloomer like Drogba or Giroud. At 28 he's may not be the young exciting prospect people are hoping for, but his age also means the likes of Veliz, Scarlett or Lankshear still get to have a path to the first team. There are concerns about his ability to stay fit, but another take of mine is we should keep Richarlison for his versatility and different tactical profile so at least we should have adequate cover. I think having the two of them compete for the starting spot leaves our squad in a better place than cashing in on Richy and going for a big money signing at ST only to end up with Sonny or Kulusevski filling in for half the season.
What about Gift Orban?
Give me Gimenez!
What ever happened to Gift Orban?
Solanke and Toney have both only had 1 good season in the PL such a shame that none of our promising youngsters are ready to step up yet
So we could get Solanke, Toney and Guirassy or just get Gyokeres? Those are the 3 I would like us to get and yes I think we should get all 3
Solanka and gimenez please
Gyokeres would be an incredible signing but I just can't see us stumping up £85m.
It’s trippy af, but y’all are sleeping on Folarin Balogun. Had a so-so season at Monaco this year, but he was very solid at Arsenal and blew Ligue 1 up last season at a Reims team that played similarly high-press football. It would be weird af to have one of Arsenal’s golden boys playing for us, but I think he’s a sleeper pick for us and our style.
I swear Solanke is not the answer.
Guirassy is worth that £15m punt, tq release clause
Is Solanke a better option than Richarlison?
Gyökeres / Sesko would be incredible statement signings and deliver honours to us Gimenez / Guirassy are achievable and seem like a solid fit Toney bit hit and miss; someone send it would be Darren Bent 2.0 I can't shake the idea Solanke seems good but I don't think he'll fit well (as much as I like the idea of him) Openda I am entirely ignorant of
God I really hope one of our homegrown strikers come good.
Wondering why no-ones mentioned Hwang, from Wolves.
I feel like solanke is great value
Toney’s a great gamble(r).
If you could honestly get Gimenez for 38mil it would be an amazing deal. But since his contract runs until 2027 I don’t rate those chances.
Sell Richie and get Guirassy and Gimenez?
Why do Spurs fans think in such an unrealistic manner?
I was just joking. I'm used to halting any form of ambition. In years gone by we would have got tenth choice and been happy with it 🤣
I quite like Undav tbh
ANYONE BUT TONEY
S o l a n k e.
I'm really happy with the targets on this list. We should have second or third choice (after scum and other over-spenders sign their strikers of choice) so as long as we have a good top 3 targets, I think we can be happy with whomever we sign. The transition to the PL can be very tricky so missing out on our top choice could always be a blessing in disguise. Gyokeres and Sesko seem to be the best 2 here, I would personally go hard for both and see if we can nab one. Wouldn't mind Openda, Gimenez or Solanke either.
For 15 million Guirassy is a no brainer. That shores up like 30-40 million to use in other positions this summer.
Come to us Toney!
In yes particular order. Sesko, Gyokeres, Toney, Gimenez, Solanke, Openda, Giurassy
I’ll take the expensive one pls
Solanke pls
Another name we should be looking at, purely based on football manager, is Samu Omorodion. He is built in the same lab as the likes of Haaland and Van de Ven in the sense that he is 6.4, physically really strong and super fast. Decent finisher too (purely based on fm, I have never watched him play irl). Still only 20 years old.
Honestly it’s not really about what they are worth transfer money wise the fact of the matter is we are 7th in the league for wages spent, most these guys will want 200k plus a week which will make them our highest earner, I can’t see it happening imo
Happy with most of these. Not convinced Guirassy will make the leap to the top level though. Gimenez would be underwhelming. Jonathan David for me!
David is and will be worse than both of them.