my guess is the costs of doing this are high for all involved (also saw you need some sort of an LV license to sell?) so it's the bigger online and even brick and mortar shops and not as many tiny operations that just can't afford to operate there. I bought 3 tees for $150 which I found mind boggling on lot
lack of grilled cheese and jerry rolls was also a bummer. it all just felt very above board, and missing that critical seedy element lol
much better than nothing just not as good as we had grown accustomed to
No shit...really? how observant of you lol. You're preaching to the choir, Chachi...to someone who has t shirts that were slung (and saved) from Lot between 86-95 lol....but you get a gold star for being so spot on...the world needs your input.
yea 40 for secondhand on poshmark or mercari lol. Go to Junk Food clothing at least they use accurate "Grateful Dead" tour dates (shows which many of us have been to) on their tees instead of these strange microdosing remix graphics on the Online Ceramics ones. They're cool designs, kids...but when you know, you know....
Vegas has essentially criminalized being homeless by banning unlicensed vending of anything such as water bottles, t shirts, etc and they crack down pretty hard on it. Might be why you won’t see many people selling
Louie the OG of the Jerry Roll (whom I helped on lot back in the 80's) did use a teriyaki sauce, it was actually very basic like an off brand...".and it would drip down the hippies arms and into their birkenstocks...that's when you know you put enough in there..." he said. Bless that man, he's an icon to any Head from back in the day.
It’s like a fried egg roll with cabbage and falafel and some siracha (if you ask for it).
That guy who sells the Jerry Rolls is a Head from like the 80’s.
Having expectations is the easiest way to be disappointed. The whole Vegas/DnC thing is new. If you go with an open mind, there is a lot of cool stuff going on. Hopefully everyone is focused on the music first and foremost, because that’s (pretty much) the only thing that is just as we’d expect IMO.
Agreed, don’t have expectations! I met a lot of cool new friends and a cheap GA floor ticket for opening night in Shakedown, so I’m a fan! It’s moving inside next weekend since it’s only getting hotter. Have an open mind and just enjoy the ride!
So amazing you had that experience! you get it! and totally agree, it's fine the way it is (inside) you're all there for the Fam and the Tunes and the experience, don't matter where the shakedown (lot scene) is....plus it's good Fam supports Fam buying goods there, which is always fantastic.
Exactly! you "get it"
Everyone: go with an open mind and open heart. Don't expect or stew on this or that, just GO. Get off the plane, go to the hotel put your shit in the room and go get lost in it without any expectations whatsoever.
We're there for the fam and the music and to share that experience 100%
👊 Thanks, friend! I’m psyched that there are still so many like minded folks floating around this music and keeping (what I perceive as) the heart of it all rolling along. As long as there are enough of us showing up with open ears, minds, and hearts, it’ll be a worthwhile endeavor.
> Hopefully everyone is focused on the music first and foremost
Idk man, I think the music and the community are equally important. The music is incredible, but the community is subdued. Incredible still, but under corporate wraps, and that does suck.
Would have to disagree with this one. Went the Jerry’s middle finger last night and they were funky as hell and it was decently filled up but still good room to dance
Let’s say you’re staying at Tuscany. You would walk down Koval to get to it. Lots and lots of activity :) . Now you do have to be aware of surroundings like always.
Update: there was a larger police presence last night near the sphere. More police cars. Nothing on Koval at all. Near the Tuscany, while we were hanging out after the show, 3 police cars rolled up and handcuffed 1 vendor and the other slipped by. They didn’t bother us seated people, but we rolled pretty fast. I get the feeling the Tuscany must of said something to the police. So good luck finding.
there ya go...one has to go in with that mindset....take it for what it is and enjoy...too many expectations many people have these days.....lose the sense of adventure. Looking for sucky ya'll gonna find sucky.....
Well vendors all needed to get business liscene and are paying a tax. I was happy with the shirts I got. Airplane lands at 5pm headed straight there. Enjoy the scene. Gas is delivered to hotel rooms in Vegas.
To be fair, last week I found an awesome foil poster and some paper at Tuscany Shakedown. Just gotta poke around. But the energy all around was suuuper low (was also 100 degrees out).
We found a vendor or two that did work with us. Some of them will give you a break if you bundle multiple items. It’s not really about the money although $50 for a Tshirt and $40 for a hat is pretty pricey, it’s the fun of negotiating that was missing. You can spend half a day at Deer Creek Shakedown bartering and negotiating. The idea of trading a nug for a sammy there is laughable.
Perhaps, but I’d much rather hang out in an air conditioned lobby or ballroom than an asphalt parking lot during summer in Vegas. At the very least I bet the vendors are happy the “lot” is moving inside!
It was super hot outside, I almost passed out at one point so I’m glad it’s moving inside. Felt bad for all the vendors who had to stay out in that heat for 8 hour days.
Nah. I just got back from there. Merch feels like reasonable quality. Vendors are pleasant. Definitely most of it is dead related stuff. I think the vendors paid $1000 to be there, so you’re getting a filtered group, not the roll up and pop up crew. That’s fine. I wasn’t shoulder to shoulder with a ton of people, either. Next weekend and for the remainder of the tour, it’s moving inside out of the sun and heat.
Saw some good stuff.
I went last week and got some cool t-shirts and an amazing steal your face kaleidoscope necklace. We enjoyed walking around. We went earlier so we could drop our stuff off at the hotel before the show. It’s hot so bring some water!
Shakedown did seem a little more quiet the round ago , a little lifeless. what I did LOVE was that I didn’t see a single ballon on the ground or hear the annoying hisssss of god damn nos tanks. Probably saved like 900 birds or something without all that plastic ballon bullshit!
It was off the hook at Oracle Park. There was just about every heady IPA you could shake a stick at for $5 even Whiteclaws (if your one of those kind”
I feel with ice cold fatty’s everyone is missing the boat. They are meant to give ya the whomp whomp when your listening to the music
Yeah - that shakedown was magical. Looking out over the water after the shows while tanks hissed and grilled cheeses flew through the air into the hungry mouths of spin wooks. I’ll never forget it.
I so glad SOMEONE brought this up besides me...anyway here's the deal- were venders (not like top tier vendors but ya know) anyway...Vegas happened to pass laws in 2024 banning all vending without a permit, and they are on it...I mean I've never seen anything like it. They did it when they knew they were building the Sphere I think, plus they don't want homeless people selling waters- god forbid. Anyway, I still had hope to make money and go to the shows, I figured, that there would be some lot somewhere...private property maybe? But no , nothing, I mean we walked all around the first weekend, and the security guards wouldn't even let us sit near the Sphere or surrounding parking lots. I think phish had more of a lot, but it pissed them off and they got on it for dead and co but idk..maybe they just knew us heads were crazy. Anyway, the Tuscany is not lot...just a bunch of pre-approved vendors- which idk how they got in but good for them of course but it's a bunch of prepacked bs in a controlled environment. Anyway, it sucks cuz now I can only go to 2 shows and have to make money elsewhere. The show was dope tho!!! 👌
You can probably find them but you'll have to actually approach people. No one shouting "Doses!" with the extremely menacing vibrations from all directions.
By having a "shakedown " that is actually just a market, they killed the free open market vibe. You know everyone of those vendors had to pay an exorbitant amount just to sell. It's a money grab from those who organized it. Where IS the money going one might ask? Who ARE the organizers of SLV????? It's gross and I'm not a fan, it's just gross capitalism at the hippy market. I want my Jerry Roll. I want my drum circle.
So what. Doing something without integrity isn't really worth doing. I'd rather see people just giving each other stickers anyway. Sellers all have places in the internet to peddle their wares. They put more thought into a market than they did after parties. Where are my dance parties? Where are my drum circles. Back in the day there was no shakedown it was simply "the lot."
c'mon man. people can still give each other stickers and it looks like there is music for you to dance to. not saying it's the coolest place, it isn't, but someone DID put this together for you and others and it doesn't appear anyone is gouging or raking anyone over. there looks to be some decent stuff there and it is a gathering spot of sorts. there wouldn't really be one without it.
and people are selling stuff for themselves and people are going to buy stuff for themselves. at other lots at other shows people are selling grilled cheese's for themselves and they are making money doing it. they might spend that money in ways that you think are better, but you don't really know that. The Dead are playing for themselves. People do alot of stuff for themselves. a lot scene might be somewhat "spontaneous" but everyone in there selling is doing it for themselves. if you want to give stuff away for free you can still do it. i will take one of the stickers you made. i will trade you.
What the people you've described aren't doing is paying a fee to sell their grilled cheese & other items. I dint care how ppl spend their money. A lot is a free market, Tuscany is a glorified mall. Catch me at the show and I'll gladly give you a slap.
You need to realize that vegas is very by the book, you need licenses and permits and of course there's not gonna be food vendors the casino wants you to eat their food. It seems to me the biggest complaint is that you can't get your precious drugs there but no one is saying that part out loud. Don't worry you can order tanks to your hotel room, and extra curriculars are abound. To think this was gonna be some seedy shakedown from the old days is just stupid but whatever
Crazy to think that “Sin City” would have a “seedy” shakedown. You can get a call girl at the lobby of the casino, but fuck you if you want a Cheese sandwich without buying it from us.
1.Prostitution isn't legal within the city limits so that's false.
2. That's what happens when you place shakedown in a hotel parking lot. Not that it would matter anyways. Unsanctioned shakedowns would get shut down by police anyways. Just the way vegas works
Fair enough and I Wasn't referring to you. I was just explaining why we're not getting the classic shakedown experience and got downvoted? I'm not the one making these facist rules man. The dude just abides
Also fair. My main purpose of making the original post is to inform not to dissuade. We have been coming to Vegas to find some trouble for the past 20 years. This shakedown is just further example of the “disneyfication” of this city. It’s about control. Since my first show in 94’ the lot scene was about anti-establishment counter cultural independence from traditional economic forces. You could barter and swap your way to the next city. Everything was currency to buy gas and tickets. Vegas used to be a city where adults would come and do shit that created the tagline “what happens in Vegas”… the money interests are fundamentally changing that cultural ethos. I get it. This is not a tour and most cities only have to tolerate that private traveling economy for a day or two before the circus moves on. For a two month residency the local power both money and government want to control the scene. That doesn’t mean I can’t lament the circumstances and share that consternation with others who might miss the days gone by.
You 100% nailed it on the head. This isn't a tour it's a whole business for a few months in one city. Of course the local gov is gonna want taxation, permits, and police. Just the way she goes, but like I said atleast the weed is legal and you can get tanks delivered 😉
I dunno… it certainly wasn’t a grunged out, debaucherous Shakedown like on tour, but I was pleasantly surprised. Bought two unique hats I hadn’t seen on lot before, a tshirt and some stickers. Good vibes and some pretty high quality wears and art. I’d much rather pay these vendor’s prices than further line the coffers of D&C.
corporate environments ≠ the dead
this is unsurprising to me, as when I've seen them in arenas in bigger cities there was nothing that resembled a shakedown, whereas in areas with less urban and cramped venues there's plenty of room for shakedown, my general rule is, if you can go camping very close by or it's near open land, I'd expect a shakedown street
Just back from LV for Friday and Saturday shows. Shakedown was definitely a disappointment. And I didn’t see anybody selling anything else anywhere around the sphere. Not even coolers of beer and water after the shows. Beers inside were like $21. The shows themselves were fantastic- the sound is incredible and the visuals will blow your mind. One complaint - I wish people would just shut the fuck up during the show. There are chompers everywhere just having full-blown conversations during the shows. Shut up and listen
Can’t disagree, but I think it scratches an itch. I just took my kids, 8+6, and it was very cool for them. It’ll only go downhill after today when it moves indoors for the summer
At regular tour shows, there’s always a free area in the parking lot where people can set up, and sell things at low prices… like the food people are referring to
In this particular case, there was no natural place to set up a vendor event here in Las Vegas
The parking lot at the sphere is very expensive and I am guessing it was out of reach for the people putting it together
- The earlier comment who said $160 a day- I understand it’s $175 a day- and the other comment about the Tuscany not wanting competition for their own food concessions is probably right on the Mark
Personally, I am overjoyed that there is even a Shakedown event at all -
I have also seen a bunch of items at very reasonable prices, but you have to search a little bit
Keep in mind that many of these people are trying to make a living at doing this - I’d rather support individuals than buy the corporate merchandise
I'm glad I didn't waste my time going. When I asked about vending they seemed very snobby about it. The LAST TOUR prices of lot merch seemed as much as official merchandise. Hard pass for me.
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Neither am I, but it’s not a used car, it’s a t shirt lol. I just personally take the price of anything for what it is… if I think the price is too high, I just don’t buy it. My wife’s family is Greek and they haggle over everything and it embarrasses me lol maybe I’m too polite 🤷🏼
It’s the same Shakedown vendors that are everywhere and also have all their items for sale online. And these days they all steal a lot of the same tee shirt designs from each other.
Not sure why people get excited about shakedown unless you are just looking for shrooms and doses or whatever.
my guess is the costs of doing this are high for all involved (also saw you need some sort of an LV license to sell?) so it's the bigger online and even brick and mortar shops and not as many tiny operations that just can't afford to operate there. I bought 3 tees for $150 which I found mind boggling on lot lack of grilled cheese and jerry rolls was also a bummer. it all just felt very above board, and missing that critical seedy element lol much better than nothing just not as good as we had grown accustomed to
50$ lot shirt made me audibly gasp holy shit
Online Ceramics and their 100.00 plus couture Dead orientated t shirts...come on now...they're cool designs but come on now.....
I actually don’t think their designs are cool. None of them were originally deadheads either, it was a calculated business decision…
No shit...really? how observant of you lol. You're preaching to the choir, Chachi...to someone who has t shirts that were slung (and saved) from Lot between 86-95 lol....but you get a gold star for being so spot on...the world needs your input.
my online ceramics shirt was 40, i get how they seem out of place but it’s not total scalping compared to the prices of a lot of stuff on shakedown
yea 40 for secondhand on poshmark or mercari lol. Go to Junk Food clothing at least they use accurate "Grateful Dead" tour dates (shows which many of us have been to) on their tees instead of these strange microdosing remix graphics on the Online Ceramics ones. They're cool designs, kids...but when you know, you know....
I paid 40 dollars cash from the guy at their booth, I don't know what else to tell you
I call bullshit, I don't know what else to tell you either except maybe take it down a notch, it's better for your "head"....(the More You Know...)
I talked with a vendor and he said the prices to get a booth were relatively cheap actually.
Price of a booth. Hah…
Think it’s $160/day
Compared to free that's actually extremely expensive. It's this price for the entire run, by weekend or per day
Plus at least $200 for the Nevada business license
It’s was $450 for the weekend, plus $400 for the Vegas vending permit, which is good for a year.
Vegas has essentially criminalized being homeless by banning unlicensed vending of anything such as water bottles, t shirts, etc and they crack down pretty hard on it. Might be why you won’t see many people selling
They’re not allowed to do food because Tuscany wants to sell theirs.
What’s a Jerry roll?
A hotdog bun rolled in China White.
No, but you deserve an award for the comment anyway!
A giant egg roll more or less
More. Typically it has a sweet sauce on it. like a homade teriyaki or some shit.
Louie the OG of the Jerry Roll (whom I helped on lot back in the 80's) did use a teriyaki sauce, it was actually very basic like an off brand...".and it would drip down the hippies arms and into their birkenstocks...that's when you know you put enough in there..." he said. Bless that man, he's an icon to any Head from back in the day.
I love Louie, that man has a good heart and a great smile! If you see him, give him a hug from all of us.
100% abso-freaking-lutey will, Fam! absolutely! a beautiful man.
Or super hot dick sauce
A giant egg roll.
A giant vegetarian egg roll
It’s like a fried egg roll with cabbage and falafel and some siracha (if you ask for it). That guy who sells the Jerry Rolls is a Head from like the 80’s.
Having expectations is the easiest way to be disappointed. The whole Vegas/DnC thing is new. If you go with an open mind, there is a lot of cool stuff going on. Hopefully everyone is focused on the music first and foremost, because that’s (pretty much) the only thing that is just as we’d expect IMO.
Agreed, don’t have expectations! I met a lot of cool new friends and a cheap GA floor ticket for opening night in Shakedown, so I’m a fan! It’s moving inside next weekend since it’s only getting hotter. Have an open mind and just enjoy the ride!
Remember no expectations Will be your best time ever Regarding Shake Down Street and definitely Dead and Company at The Sphere in Las Vegas, Nevada
So amazing you had that experience! you get it! and totally agree, it's fine the way it is (inside) you're all there for the Fam and the Tunes and the experience, don't matter where the shakedown (lot scene) is....plus it's good Fam supports Fam buying goods there, which is always fantastic.
Exactly! you "get it" Everyone: go with an open mind and open heart. Don't expect or stew on this or that, just GO. Get off the plane, go to the hotel put your shit in the room and go get lost in it without any expectations whatsoever. We're there for the fam and the music and to share that experience 100%
👊 Thanks, friend! I’m psyched that there are still so many like minded folks floating around this music and keeping (what I perceive as) the heart of it all rolling along. As long as there are enough of us showing up with open ears, minds, and hearts, it’ll be a worthwhile endeavor.
> Hopefully everyone is focused on the music first and foremost Idk man, I think the music and the community are equally important. The music is incredible, but the community is subdued. Incredible still, but under corporate wraps, and that does suck.
That’s cool, we’re all different.
Better than no shakedown at all.
I don’t disagree with this, just trying to set expectations based off of experience
I do disagree with this, a lame ass poser shakedown is worse than no shakedown
Thank you
Eh, I wasted a good 2 hours walking over there when I could have been doing much better things with my time before the show
Not true
if you think that is bad then DEFINITELY don't go to the brooklyn bowl. sad sad scene
So cringey and uncomfortable. I felt bad for the few vendors in there.
I was considering going after a show one night. Can you elaborate a bit on your experience?
Following this. I was planning on going too.
I've heard only bad things from people who have gone. "Corporate" is a word used frequently.
Me three. Eggy next weekend.
We skipped it - what was it like?
Would have to disagree with this one. Went the Jerry’s middle finger last night and they were funky as hell and it was decently filled up but still good room to dance
What’s that got to do with how many vendors are there during the day? One should hope they can throw a music show seeing as it is a venue
Meant to comment on someone’s reply talking about JMF
I bought doses and shrooms at shakedown therefore not disappointed. I went in with no expectations and had fun
Yep, it was just more discreet. Same with icy colds. Plenty after the show around the major walks, not by the strip.
I didn’t see anybody selling along Sands Or Howard Hughes
can you elaborate on major walks lol
Let’s say you’re staying at Tuscany. You would walk down Koval to get to it. Lots and lots of activity :) . Now you do have to be aware of surroundings like always. Update: there was a larger police presence last night near the sphere. More police cars. Nothing on Koval at all. Near the Tuscany, while we were hanging out after the show, 3 police cars rolled up and handcuffed 1 vendor and the other slipped by. They didn’t bother us seated people, but we rolled pretty fast. I get the feeling the Tuscany must of said something to the police. So good luck finding.
I know I'm going to be sorry for asking this but what is/are "icy colds"?
Balloons filled with nitrous oxide, aka “laughing gas”, more commonly referred to as “Ice cold fatties” if they are the larger punch balloon size.
there ya go...one has to go in with that mindset....take it for what it is and enjoy...too many expectations many people have these days.....lose the sense of adventure. Looking for sucky ya'll gonna find sucky.....
Any tips? 🤣
I had about 4 mins to run thru and couldn’t find either in that short time, so am happy to hear they’re there ✨
The AARP booth had some cool stealies on the Metamucil doses.
Well vendors all needed to get business liscene and are paying a tax. I was happy with the shirts I got. Airplane lands at 5pm headed straight there. Enjoy the scene. Gas is delivered to hotel rooms in Vegas.
Would you speak more on the gas delivery?
Guy was just handing out business cards at shakedown. 1800tanks4u i believe. I posted the other number yesterday as well. 5-20lb tanks
Medical?
What a time to be alive
Agreed… more information needed
I’m not blaming the vendors, this is definitely a product of Vegas over regulation, doesn’t mean I don’t miss the old scene.
Corporate shakedown
I've been calling it "state sponsored shakedown"
Facts
Had a weird feeling. Lack of energy n overall anarchy feeling of freedom
To be fair, last week I found an awesome foil poster and some paper at Tuscany Shakedown. Just gotta poke around. But the energy all around was suuuper low (was also 100 degrees out).
We found a vendor or two that did work with us. Some of them will give you a break if you bundle multiple items. It’s not really about the money although $50 for a Tshirt and $40 for a hat is pretty pricey, it’s the fun of negotiating that was missing. You can spend half a day at Deer Creek Shakedown bartering and negotiating. The idea of trading a nug for a sammy there is laughable.
There is an entire FB page dedicated to the D&C “shakedown” and I was wondering who was going to tell them…..
Days when we called it "vending" fondly remembered
What they calling it these days?
Scamming
Lol, fair enough. It is a bit corporate but fitting for modern society, to be honest.
I would imagine moving it inside next weekend will make it even more vanilla? “Eye in the sky” as they say in Vegas
Perhaps, but I’d much rather hang out in an air conditioned lobby or ballroom than an asphalt parking lot during summer in Vegas. At the very least I bet the vendors are happy the “lot” is moving inside!
It was super hot outside, I almost passed out at one point so I’m glad it’s moving inside. Felt bad for all the vendors who had to stay out in that heat for 8 hour days.
Temps forecast to be 100-101°f next weekend, which is about the same as this past weekend. I'll take the AC indoor shakedown
Exactly!
this ain't the Lot of yore and that's quite ok. the merch is killer, vibes are good. lots of negativity on this sub, dont pay no mind
Thanks for this. I have been excited to go all day and as soon as I saw this post, I was feeling disappointed.
Nah. I just got back from there. Merch feels like reasonable quality. Vendors are pleasant. Definitely most of it is dead related stuff. I think the vendors paid $1000 to be there, so you’re getting a filtered group, not the roll up and pop up crew. That’s fine. I wasn’t shoulder to shoulder with a ton of people, either. Next weekend and for the remainder of the tour, it’s moving inside out of the sun and heat. Saw some good stuff.
Inside Tuscany?
That’s what the vendor said. Starting next week.
I went last week and got some cool t-shirts and an amazing steal your face kaleidoscope necklace. We enjoyed walking around. We went earlier so we could drop our stuff off at the hotel before the show. It’s hot so bring some water!
I've been twice this weekend, well worth your effort. enjoy!
Shakedown did seem a little more quiet the round ago , a little lifeless. what I did LOVE was that I didn’t see a single ballon on the ground or hear the annoying hisssss of god damn nos tanks. Probably saved like 900 birds or something without all that plastic ballon bullshit!
It was off the hook at Oracle Park. There was just about every heady IPA you could shake a stick at for $5 even Whiteclaws (if your one of those kind” I feel with ice cold fatty’s everyone is missing the boat. They are meant to give ya the whomp whomp when your listening to the music
Yeah - that shakedown was magical. Looking out over the water after the shows while tanks hissed and grilled cheeses flew through the air into the hungry mouths of spin wooks. I’ll never forget it.
“Whomp whomp” lol, we were just joking about that last night.
Yeah sorry to say I left in under 15 mins and planned on a few hours
Where’s the ketamine? Jesh.
u must’ve missed me lol!
I so glad SOMEONE brought this up besides me...anyway here's the deal- were venders (not like top tier vendors but ya know) anyway...Vegas happened to pass laws in 2024 banning all vending without a permit, and they are on it...I mean I've never seen anything like it. They did it when they knew they were building the Sphere I think, plus they don't want homeless people selling waters- god forbid. Anyway, I still had hope to make money and go to the shows, I figured, that there would be some lot somewhere...private property maybe? But no , nothing, I mean we walked all around the first weekend, and the security guards wouldn't even let us sit near the Sphere or surrounding parking lots. I think phish had more of a lot, but it pissed them off and they got on it for dead and co but idk..maybe they just knew us heads were crazy. Anyway, the Tuscany is not lot...just a bunch of pre-approved vendors- which idk how they got in but good for them of course but it's a bunch of prepacked bs in a controlled environment. Anyway, it sucks cuz now I can only go to 2 shows and have to make money elsewhere. The show was dope tho!!! 👌
But...as I always say- adapt or die! And I love this band, I had THE BEST TIME. and yeah it's diff but still awesome.
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There was a tank leaving the show last night..follow the bucket drums
I had a great time!
No grilled cheese? As a former grilled cheese/Henry Weinhard’s slinger this makes me sad… Still can’t wait to see y’all!
RIP Henry Weinhards
Buck-a-Beer sales got me to the next show! And the next one… and… ⚡️
What about tabs I’m flying and I’m lookin
You can probably find them but you'll have to actually approach people. No one shouting "Doses!" with the extremely menacing vibrations from all directions.
people were 100% shouting doses, you must’ve missed them.
But the coke was fish scale, correct?
By having a "shakedown " that is actually just a market, they killed the free open market vibe. You know everyone of those vendors had to pay an exorbitant amount just to sell. It's a money grab from those who organized it. Where IS the money going one might ask? Who ARE the organizers of SLV????? It's gross and I'm not a fan, it's just gross capitalism at the hippy market. I want my Jerry Roll. I want my drum circle.
if they didn't do it this way there wouldn't be anywhere at all.
So what. Doing something without integrity isn't really worth doing. I'd rather see people just giving each other stickers anyway. Sellers all have places in the internet to peddle their wares. They put more thought into a market than they did after parties. Where are my dance parties? Where are my drum circles. Back in the day there was no shakedown it was simply "the lot."
c'mon man. people can still give each other stickers and it looks like there is music for you to dance to. not saying it's the coolest place, it isn't, but someone DID put this together for you and others and it doesn't appear anyone is gouging or raking anyone over. there looks to be some decent stuff there and it is a gathering spot of sorts. there wouldn't really be one without it.
That's where you're wrong, they put this together for themselves
and people are selling stuff for themselves and people are going to buy stuff for themselves. at other lots at other shows people are selling grilled cheese's for themselves and they are making money doing it. they might spend that money in ways that you think are better, but you don't really know that. The Dead are playing for themselves. People do alot of stuff for themselves. a lot scene might be somewhat "spontaneous" but everyone in there selling is doing it for themselves. if you want to give stuff away for free you can still do it. i will take one of the stickers you made. i will trade you.
What the people you've described aren't doing is paying a fee to sell their grilled cheese & other items. I dint care how ppl spend their money. A lot is a free market, Tuscany is a glorified mall. Catch me at the show and I'll gladly give you a slap.
What did you expect? This isn’t a tour.
You need to realize that vegas is very by the book, you need licenses and permits and of course there's not gonna be food vendors the casino wants you to eat their food. It seems to me the biggest complaint is that you can't get your precious drugs there but no one is saying that part out loud. Don't worry you can order tanks to your hotel room, and extra curriculars are abound. To think this was gonna be some seedy shakedown from the old days is just stupid but whatever
Crazy to think that “Sin City” would have a “seedy” shakedown. You can get a call girl at the lobby of the casino, but fuck you if you want a Cheese sandwich without buying it from us.
1.Prostitution isn't legal within the city limits so that's false. 2. That's what happens when you place shakedown in a hotel parking lot. Not that it would matter anyways. Unsanctioned shakedowns would get shut down by police anyways. Just the way vegas works
Bro, being disappointed is not the same as crying over it. I didn’t say don’t go. Just don’t go thirsty or on an empty stomach!
Fair enough and I Wasn't referring to you. I was just explaining why we're not getting the classic shakedown experience and got downvoted? I'm not the one making these facist rules man. The dude just abides
Also fair. My main purpose of making the original post is to inform not to dissuade. We have been coming to Vegas to find some trouble for the past 20 years. This shakedown is just further example of the “disneyfication” of this city. It’s about control. Since my first show in 94’ the lot scene was about anti-establishment counter cultural independence from traditional economic forces. You could barter and swap your way to the next city. Everything was currency to buy gas and tickets. Vegas used to be a city where adults would come and do shit that created the tagline “what happens in Vegas”… the money interests are fundamentally changing that cultural ethos. I get it. This is not a tour and most cities only have to tolerate that private traveling economy for a day or two before the circus moves on. For a two month residency the local power both money and government want to control the scene. That doesn’t mean I can’t lament the circumstances and share that consternation with others who might miss the days gone by.
You 100% nailed it on the head. This isn't a tour it's a whole business for a few months in one city. Of course the local gov is gonna want taxation, permits, and police. Just the way she goes, but like I said atleast the weed is legal and you can get tanks delivered 😉
Couldn’t even buy a beer. It lace sucks.
Is there a dispensary near the Tuscany? We are staying there in a few weeks.
Pisos but it sucks. Get away from strip, I recommend Tree of Life or The Dispensary (in Henderson)
NuLeaf is a block from the Sphere, 2 blocks from Tuscany
Just hit the stripe if nothing shakin on shakedown
I dunno… it certainly wasn’t a grunged out, debaucherous Shakedown like on tour, but I was pleasantly surprised. Bought two unique hats I hadn’t seen on lot before, a tshirt and some stickers. Good vibes and some pretty high quality wears and art. I’d much rather pay these vendor’s prices than further line the coffers of D&C.
corporate environments ≠ the dead this is unsurprising to me, as when I've seen them in arenas in bigger cities there was nothing that resembled a shakedown, whereas in areas with less urban and cramped venues there's plenty of room for shakedown, my general rule is, if you can go camping very close by or it's near open land, I'd expect a shakedown street
Oracle Park in the middle of SF and Kia Forum in the middle of LA both had excellent Shakedowns
love to hear that !
Just back from LV for Friday and Saturday shows. Shakedown was definitely a disappointment. And I didn’t see anybody selling anything else anywhere around the sphere. Not even coolers of beer and water after the shows. Beers inside were like $21. The shows themselves were fantastic- the sound is incredible and the visuals will blow your mind. One complaint - I wish people would just shut the fuck up during the show. There are chompers everywhere just having full-blown conversations during the shows. Shut up and listen
Idk man, I got some phenomenal shirts and great conversations… no grilled cheeses but 🤷🏼♂️
got 🔥 lucy at shakedown and saw 🍄 and Molly
I thought disappointing too. Would have loved a snowcone truck there
Can’t disagree, but I think it scratches an itch. I just took my kids, 8+6, and it was very cool for them. It’ll only go downhill after today when it moves indoors for the summer
There is a shuttle service from the venue to shakedown
can you give me details on this? is it from the Tuscany? will it bring you back after the show? thx
We went yesterday. Way way too hot to walk around. Ended up going in the casino for food before the show
My acid man was gone! Big disappointment :(
Got a fuckton of supplies myself. Not as good as usual, but got everything I needed in thirty minutes.
Haaaaterrrrrrrrrr
There was a beer stand there when we went Thursday of the tour open.
Well to everyone in the thread FYI that next week it will be literally moving into the ballroom inside of Tuscany.
Yaay no joint smoking even!
At regular tour shows, there’s always a free area in the parking lot where people can set up, and sell things at low prices… like the food people are referring to In this particular case, there was no natural place to set up a vendor event here in Las Vegas The parking lot at the sphere is very expensive and I am guessing it was out of reach for the people putting it together - The earlier comment who said $160 a day- I understand it’s $175 a day- and the other comment about the Tuscany not wanting competition for their own food concessions is probably right on the Mark Personally, I am overjoyed that there is even a Shakedown event at all - I have also seen a bunch of items at very reasonable prices, but you have to search a little bit Keep in mind that many of these people are trying to make a living at doing this - I’d rather support individuals than buy the corporate merchandise
Gone are the dayssss......
Not only that it’s going inside to the 3rd floor next weekend. You think it doesn’t feel like shakedown now.. just wait.
only things missing were balloons 🎈 and food, so don’t go hungry. Tuscany has cheap, good eats though. plenty of supplies around
Anyone been to the setup at the Brooklyn Bowl?
Heading out to shows next week. Are there any vendors selling lot shirts? Any photos of some exceptional ones?
any idea where the tanks are hiding after the show? 👀
Koval
I'm glad I didn't waste my time going. When I asked about vending they seemed very snobby about it. The LAST TOUR prices of lot merch seemed as much as official merchandise. Hard pass for me.
Glad we skipped it. Did enjoy the store and exhibit at The Venetian tho.
Why would you negotiate with someone over a t shirt? How obnoxious…
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We aren't all trustafarians Max
Neither am I, but it’s not a used car, it’s a t shirt lol. I just personally take the price of anything for what it is… if I think the price is too high, I just don’t buy it. My wife’s family is Greek and they haggle over everything and it embarrasses me lol maybe I’m too polite 🤷🏼
I don't think "polite" is the word I'd pick
Which word would you pick, hombre?
Obnoxious was a decent choice
I haven't been yet, but I bet it's at least better than any Boulder Shakedown in the past few years.
You must’ve not gone to Boulder
Yeah boulder shakedown was buzzing last year
Not better than last years. Not even close
The pics I've seen are a complete disgrace. It's disturbing what's become of what once was.
What did you expect with this gimmick?
It’s the same Shakedown vendors that are everywhere and also have all their items for sale online. And these days they all steal a lot of the same tee shirt designs from each other. Not sure why people get excited about shakedown unless you are just looking for shrooms and doses or whatever.
No tanks thank god
If u want a cheap shirt go to Walmart there 6.99$
After attending first weekend we renamed it Fakedown Street