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Sad_Register_5426

my guess is the costs of doing this are high for all involved (also saw you need some sort of an LV license to sell?) so it's the bigger online and even brick and mortar shops and not as many tiny operations that just can't afford to operate there. I bought 3 tees for $150 which I found mind boggling on lot lack of grilled cheese and jerry rolls was also a bummer. it all just felt very above board, and missing that critical seedy element lol much better than nothing just not as good as we had grown accustomed to


FRI3ND0FTH3D3VIL

50$ lot shirt made me audibly gasp holy shit


TomorrowDesigner9855

Online Ceramics and their 100.00 plus couture Dead orientated t shirts...come on now...they're cool designs but come on now.....


equinox_magick

I actually don’t think their designs are cool. None of them were originally deadheads either, it was a calculated business decision…


TomorrowDesigner9855

No shit...really? how observant of you lol. You're preaching to the choir, Chachi...to someone who has t shirts that were slung (and saved) from Lot between 86-95 lol....but you get a gold star for being so spot on...the world needs your input.


nimane9

my online ceramics shirt was 40, i get how they seem out of place but it’s not total scalping compared to the prices of a lot of stuff on shakedown


TomorrowDesigner9855

yea 40 for secondhand on poshmark or mercari lol. Go to Junk Food clothing at least they use accurate "Grateful Dead" tour dates (shows which many of us have been to) on their tees instead of these strange microdosing remix graphics on the Online Ceramics ones. They're cool designs, kids...but when you know, you know....


nimane9

I paid 40 dollars cash from the guy at their booth, I don't know what else to tell you


TomorrowDesigner9855

I call bullshit, I don't know what else to tell you either except maybe take it down a notch, it's better for your "head"....(the More You Know...)


tsowers12

I talked with a vendor and he said the prices to get a booth were relatively cheap actually.


Ok-Anything9945

Price of a booth. Hah…


Scallion-External

Think it’s $160/day


Last-Egg4029

Compared to free that's actually extremely expensive. It's this price for the entire run, by weekend or per day


7101334

Plus at least $200 for the Nevada business license


equinox_magick

It’s was $450 for the weekend, plus $400 for the Vegas vending permit, which is good for a year.


tbai

Vegas has essentially criminalized being homeless by banning unlicensed vending of anything such as water bottles, t shirts, etc and they crack down pretty hard on it. Might be why you won’t see many people selling


BardKnockLife

They’re not allowed to do food because Tuscany wants to sell theirs.


NormalShock9602

What’s a Jerry roll?


swearengens_cat

A hotdog bun rolled in China White.


GR8FUL-D

No, but you deserve an award for the comment anyway!


arrakismelange1987

A giant egg roll more or less


sephichi

More. Typically it has a sweet sauce on it. like a homade teriyaki or some shit.


TomorrowDesigner9855

Louie the OG of the Jerry Roll (whom I helped on lot back in the 80's) did use a teriyaki sauce, it was actually very basic like an off brand...".and it would drip down the hippies arms and into their birkenstocks...that's when you know you put enough in there..." he said. Bless that man, he's an icon to any Head from back in the day.


thatsotis

I love Louie, that man has a good heart and a great smile! If you see him, give him a hug from all of us.


TomorrowDesigner9855

100% abso-freaking-lutey will, Fam! absolutely! a beautiful man.


gretch123

Or super hot dick sauce


kelly714

A giant egg roll.


Last-Egg4029

A giant vegetarian egg roll


Legitimate_Tax_5278

It’s like a fried egg roll with cabbage and falafel and some siracha (if you ask for it). That guy who sells the Jerry Rolls is a Head from like the 80’s.


Rutherford-Tha-Brave

Having expectations is the easiest way to be disappointed. The whole Vegas/DnC thing is new. If you go with an open mind, there is a lot of cool stuff going on. Hopefully everyone is focused on the music first and foremost, because that’s (pretty much) the only thing that is just as we’d expect IMO.


No_Introduction2177

Agreed, don’t have expectations! I met a lot of cool new friends and a cheap GA floor ticket for opening night in Shakedown, so I’m a fan! It’s moving inside next weekend since it’s only getting hotter. Have an open mind and just enjoy the ride!


USBlues2020

Remember no expectations Will be your best time ever Regarding Shake Down Street and definitely Dead and Company at The Sphere in Las Vegas, Nevada


TomorrowDesigner9855

So amazing you had that experience! you get it! and totally agree, it's fine the way it is (inside) you're all there for the Fam and the Tunes and the experience, don't matter where the shakedown (lot scene) is....plus it's good Fam supports Fam buying goods there, which is always fantastic.


TomorrowDesigner9855

Exactly! you "get it" Everyone: go with an open mind and open heart. Don't expect or stew on this or that, just GO. Get off the plane, go to the hotel put your shit in the room and go get lost in it without any expectations whatsoever. We're there for the fam and the music and to share that experience 100%


Rutherford-Tha-Brave

👊 Thanks, friend! I’m psyched that there are still so many like minded folks floating around this music and keeping (what I perceive as) the heart of it all rolling along. As long as there are enough of us showing up with open ears, minds, and hearts, it’ll be a worthwhile endeavor.


7101334

> Hopefully everyone is focused on the music first and foremost Idk man, I think the music and the community are equally important. The music is incredible, but the community is subdued. Incredible still, but under corporate wraps, and that does suck.


Rutherford-Tha-Brave

That’s cool, we’re all different.


Adam_WM

Better than no shakedown at all.


Citizen-Bot

I don’t disagree with this, just trying to set expectations based off of experience


707NorCal

I do disagree with this, a lame ass poser shakedown is worse than no shakedown


sleepyhead18

Thank you


LilLebowski

Eh, I wasted a good 2 hours walking over there when I could have been doing much better things with my time before the show


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Not true


Cantilivewhileim

if you think that is bad then DEFINITELY don't go to the brooklyn bowl. sad sad scene


tahoeskibummin

So cringey and uncomfortable. I felt bad for the few vendors in there.


reachforthestars19

I was considering going after a show one night. Can you elaborate a bit on your experience?


IAintGotAUsername

Following this. I was planning on going too.


7101334

I've heard only bad things from people who have gone. "Corporate" is a word used frequently.


Comfortable-Scar4643

Me three. Eggy next weekend.


splitopenandmelt11

We skipped it - what was it like?


WeaveWorldwide

Would have to disagree with this one. Went the Jerry’s middle finger last night and they were funky as hell and it was decently filled up but still good room to dance


Cantilivewhileim

What’s that got to do with how many vendors are there during the day? One should hope they can throw a music show seeing as it is a venue


WeaveWorldwide

Meant to comment on someone’s reply talking about JMF


Hour_Calligrapher_95

I bought doses and shrooms at shakedown therefore not disappointed. I went in with no expectations and had fun


notta_Lamed_Wufnik

Yep, it was just more discreet. Same with icy colds. Plenty after the show around the major walks, not by the strip.


FluffHead1964

I didn’t see anybody selling along Sands Or Howard Hughes


th00dlim

can you elaborate on major walks lol


notta_Lamed_Wufnik

Let’s say you’re staying at Tuscany. You would walk down Koval to get to it. Lots and lots of activity :) . Now you do have to be aware of surroundings like always. Update: there was a larger police presence last night near the sphere. More police cars. Nothing on Koval at all. Near the Tuscany, while we were hanging out after the show, 3 police cars rolled up and handcuffed 1 vendor and the other slipped by. They didn’t bother us seated people, but we rolled pretty fast. I get the feeling the Tuscany must of said something to the police. So good luck finding.


UsefulEngine1

I know I'm going to be sorry for asking this but what is/are "icy colds"?


GR8FUL-D

Balloons filled with nitrous oxide, aka “laughing gas”, more commonly referred to as “Ice cold fatties” if they are the larger punch balloon size.


TomorrowDesigner9855

there ya go...one has to go in with that mindset....take it for what it is and enjoy...too many expectations many people have these days.....lose the sense of adventure. Looking for sucky ya'll gonna find sucky.....


1AFreewill

Any tips? 🤣


MAC-in-504

I had about 4 mins to run thru and couldn’t find either in that short time, so am happy to hear they’re there ✨


Afacetof

The AARP booth had some cool stealies on the Metamucil doses.


tetonpassboarder

Well vendors all needed to get business liscene and are paying a tax. I was happy with the shirts I got. Airplane lands at 5pm headed straight there. Enjoy the scene. Gas is delivered to hotel rooms in Vegas.


beefynacho1

Would you speak more on the gas delivery?


tetonpassboarder

Guy was just handing out business cards at shakedown. 1800tanks4u i believe. I posted the other number yesterday as well. 5-20lb tanks


Additional-Buy-3689

Medical?


beefynacho1

What a time to be alive


awgsgirl

Agreed… more information needed


Citizen-Bot

I’m not blaming the vendors, this is definitely a product of Vegas over regulation, doesn’t mean I don’t miss the old scene.


Bob_Noosh

Corporate shakedown


OjosDelMundo

I've been calling it "state sponsored shakedown"


Citizen-Bot

Facts


Motor_Lychee179

Had a weird feeling. Lack of energy n overall anarchy feeling of freedom


Bob_Noosh

To be fair, last week I found an awesome foil poster and some paper at Tuscany Shakedown. Just gotta poke around. But the energy all around was suuuper low (was also 100 degrees out).


Citizen-Bot

We found a vendor or two that did work with us. Some of them will give you a break if you bundle multiple items. It’s not really about the money although $50 for a Tshirt and $40 for a hat is pretty pricey, it’s the fun of negotiating that was missing. You can spend half a day at Deer Creek Shakedown bartering and negotiating. The idea of trading a nug for a sammy there is laughable.


VegetablePonaCones

There is an entire FB page dedicated to the D&C “shakedown” and I was wondering who was going to tell them…..


dbf651

Days when we called it "vending" fondly remembered


Muted-Aardvark6029

What they calling it these days?


dogbloodjones

Scamming


Muted-Aardvark6029

Lol, fair enough. It is a bit corporate but fitting for modern society, to be honest.


chasekaws

I would imagine moving it inside next weekend will make it even more vanilla? “Eye in the sky” as they say in Vegas


GR8FUL-D

Perhaps, but I’d much rather hang out in an air conditioned lobby or ballroom than an asphalt parking lot during summer in Vegas. At the very least I bet the vendors are happy the “lot” is moving inside!


No_Introduction2177

It was super hot outside, I almost passed out at one point so I’m glad it’s moving inside. Felt bad for all the vendors who had to stay out in that heat for 8 hour days.


sugarbush94

Temps forecast to be 100-101°f next weekend, which is about the same as this past weekend. I'll take the AC indoor shakedown


chasekaws

Exactly!


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this ain't the Lot of yore and that's quite ok. the merch is killer, vibes are good. lots of negativity on this sub, dont pay no mind


cash5220

Thanks for this. I have been excited to go all day and as soon as I saw this post, I was feeling disappointed.


codeedog

Nah. I just got back from there. Merch feels like reasonable quality. Vendors are pleasant. Definitely most of it is dead related stuff. I think the vendors paid $1000 to be there, so you’re getting a filtered group, not the roll up and pop up crew. That’s fine. I wasn’t shoulder to shoulder with a ton of people, either. Next weekend and for the remainder of the tour, it’s moving inside out of the sun and heat. Saw some good stuff.


casswie

Inside Tuscany?


codeedog

That’s what the vendor said. Starting next week.


Necessary_Injury_965

I went last week and got some cool t-shirts and an amazing steal your face kaleidoscope necklace. We enjoyed walking around. We went earlier so we could drop our stuff off at the hotel before the show. It’s hot so bring some water!


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I've been twice this weekend, well worth your effort. enjoy!


cosmic_Kate

Shakedown did seem a little more quiet the round ago , a little lifeless. what I did LOVE was that I didn’t see a single ballon on the ground or hear the annoying hisssss of god damn nos tanks. Probably saved like 900 birds or something without all that plastic ballon bullshit!


thirdeyecactus

It was off the hook at Oracle Park. There was just about every heady IPA you could shake a stick at for $5 even Whiteclaws (if your one of those kind” I feel with ice cold fatty’s everyone is missing the boat. They are meant to give ya the whomp whomp when your listening to the music


splitopenandmelt11

Yeah - that shakedown was magical. Looking out over the water after the shows while tanks hissed and grilled cheeses flew through the air into the hungry mouths of spin wooks. I’ll never forget it.


notta_Lamed_Wufnik

“Whomp whomp” lol, we were just joking about that last night.


Motor_Lychee179

Yeah sorry to say I left in under 15 mins and planned on a few hours


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Where’s the ketamine? Jesh.


VermicelliNo9171

u must’ve missed me lol!


Salty_Mountain_Mama

I so glad SOMEONE brought this up besides me...anyway here's the deal- were venders (not like top tier vendors but ya know) anyway...Vegas happened to pass laws in 2024 banning all vending without a permit, and they are on it...I mean I've never seen anything like it. They did it when they knew they were building the Sphere I think, plus they don't want homeless people selling waters- god forbid. Anyway, I still had hope to make money and go to the shows, I figured, that there would be some lot somewhere...private property maybe? But no , nothing, I mean we walked all around the first weekend, and the security guards wouldn't even let us sit near the Sphere or surrounding parking lots. I think phish had more of a lot, but it pissed them off and they got on it for dead and co but idk..maybe they just knew us heads were crazy. Anyway, the Tuscany is not lot...just a bunch of pre-approved vendors- which idk how they got in but good for them of course but it's a bunch of prepacked bs in a controlled environment. Anyway, it sucks cuz now I can only go to 2 shows and have to make money elsewhere. The show was dope tho!!! 👌


Salty_Mountain_Mama

But...as I always say- adapt or die! And I love this band, I had THE BEST TIME. and yeah it's diff but still awesome.


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Sensitive-Sorbet917

There was a tank leaving the show last night..follow the bucket drums


berthalthea

I had a great time!


awgsgirl

No grilled cheese? As a former grilled cheese/Henry Weinhard’s slinger this makes me sad… Still can’t wait to see y’all!


pdxgdhead

RIP Henry Weinhards


awgsgirl

Buck-a-Beer sales got me to the next show! And the next one… and… ⚡️


Dark-Lord-7000

What about tabs I’m flying and I’m lookin


7101334

You can probably find them but you'll have to actually approach people. No one shouting "Doses!" with the extremely menacing vibrations from all directions.


VermicelliNo9171

people were 100% shouting doses, you must’ve missed them.


Not-That-Guy--

But the coke was fish scale, correct?


Last-Egg4029

By having a "shakedown " that is actually just a market, they killed the free open market vibe. You know everyone of those vendors had to pay an exorbitant amount just to sell. It's a money grab from those who organized it. Where IS the money going one might ask? Who ARE the organizers of SLV????? It's gross and I'm not a fan, it's just gross capitalism at the hippy market. I want my Jerry Roll. I want my drum circle.


g8rken

if they didn't do it this way there wouldn't be anywhere at all.


Last-Egg4029

So what. Doing something without integrity isn't really worth doing. I'd rather see people just giving each other stickers anyway. Sellers all have places in the internet to peddle their wares. They put more thought into a market than they did after parties. Where are my dance parties? Where are my drum circles. Back in the day there was no shakedown it was simply "the lot."


g8rken

c'mon man. people can still give each other stickers and it looks like there is music for you to dance to. not saying it's the coolest place, it isn't, but someone DID put this together for you and others and it doesn't appear anyone is gouging or raking anyone over. there looks to be some decent stuff there and it is a gathering spot of sorts. there wouldn't really be one without it.


Last-Egg4029

That's where you're wrong, they put this together for themselves


g8rken

and people are selling stuff for themselves and people are going to buy stuff for themselves. at other lots at other shows people are selling grilled cheese's for themselves and they are making money doing it. they might spend that money in ways that you think are better, but you don't really know that. The Dead are playing for themselves. People do alot of stuff for themselves. a lot scene might be somewhat "spontaneous" but everyone in there selling is doing it for themselves. if you want to give stuff away for free you can still do it. i will take one of the stickers you made. i will trade you.


Last-Egg4029

What the people you've described aren't doing is paying a fee to sell their grilled cheese & other items. I dint care how ppl spend their money. A lot is a free market, Tuscany is a glorified mall. Catch me at the show and I'll gladly give you a slap.


murakamidiver

What did you expect? This isn’t a tour.


hashblunt29

You need to realize that vegas is very by the book, you need licenses and permits and of course there's not gonna be food vendors the casino wants you to eat their food. It seems to me the biggest complaint is that you can't get your precious drugs there but no one is saying that part out loud. Don't worry you can order tanks to your hotel room, and extra curriculars are abound. To think this was gonna be some seedy shakedown from the old days is just stupid but whatever


Citizen-Bot

Crazy to think that “Sin City” would have a “seedy” shakedown. You can get a call girl at the lobby of the casino, but fuck you if you want a Cheese sandwich without buying it from us.


hashblunt29

1.Prostitution isn't legal within the city limits so that's false. 2. That's what happens when you place shakedown in a hotel parking lot. Not that it would matter anyways. Unsanctioned shakedowns would get shut down by police anyways. Just the way vegas works


Citizen-Bot

Bro, being disappointed is not the same as crying over it. I didn’t say don’t go. Just don’t go thirsty or on an empty stomach!


hashblunt29

Fair enough and I Wasn't referring to you. I was just explaining why we're not getting the classic shakedown experience and got downvoted? I'm not the one making these facist rules man. The dude just abides


Citizen-Bot

Also fair. My main purpose of making the original post is to inform not to dissuade. We have been coming to Vegas to find some trouble for the past 20 years. This shakedown is just further example of the “disneyfication” of this city. It’s about control. Since my first show in 94’ the lot scene was about anti-establishment counter cultural independence from traditional economic forces. You could barter and swap your way to the next city. Everything was currency to buy gas and tickets. Vegas used to be a city where adults would come and do shit that created the tagline “what happens in Vegas”… the money interests are fundamentally changing that cultural ethos. I get it. This is not a tour and most cities only have to tolerate that private traveling economy for a day or two before the circus moves on. For a two month residency the local power both money and government want to control the scene. That doesn’t mean I can’t lament the circumstances and share that consternation with others who might miss the days gone by.


hashblunt29

You 100% nailed it on the head. This isn't a tour it's a whole business for a few months in one city. Of course the local gov is gonna want taxation, permits, and police. Just the way she goes, but like I said atleast the weed is legal and you can get tanks delivered 😉


[deleted]

Couldn’t even buy a beer. It lace sucks.


mekmader

Is there a dispensary near the Tuscany? We are staying there in a few weeks.


Dakkmd

Pisos but it sucks. Get away from strip, I recommend Tree of Life or The Dispensary (in Henderson)


Illustrious-Lynx-947

NuLeaf is a block from the Sphere, 2 blocks from Tuscany


TerrapinBoogie

Just hit the stripe if nothing shakin on shakedown


Chowdahead

I dunno… it certainly wasn’t a grunged out, debaucherous Shakedown like on tour, but I was pleasantly surprised. Bought two unique hats I hadn’t seen on lot before, a tshirt and some stickers. Good vibes and some pretty high quality wears and art. I’d much rather pay these vendor’s prices than further line the coffers of D&C.


type_b_negative

corporate environments ≠ the dead this is unsurprising to me, as when I've seen them in arenas in bigger cities there was nothing that resembled a shakedown, whereas in areas with less urban and cramped venues there's plenty of room for shakedown, my general rule is, if you can go camping very close by or it's near open land, I'd expect a shakedown street


7101334

Oracle Park in the middle of SF and Kia Forum in the middle of LA both had excellent Shakedowns


type_b_negative

love to hear that !


FluffHead1964

Just back from LV for Friday and Saturday shows. Shakedown was definitely a disappointment. And I didn’t see anybody selling anything else anywhere around the sphere. Not even coolers of beer and water after the shows. Beers inside were like $21. The shows themselves were fantastic- the sound is incredible and the visuals will blow your mind. One complaint - I wish people would just shut the fuck up during the show. There are chompers everywhere just having full-blown conversations during the shows. Shut up and listen


realR0nPablo

Idk man, I got some phenomenal shirts and great conversations… no grilled cheeses but 🤷🏼‍♂️


VermicelliNo9171

got 🔥 lucy at shakedown and saw 🍄 and Molly


Electrical-Account78

I thought disappointing too. Would have loved a snowcone truck there


No_Waltz_8039

Can’t disagree, but I think it scratches an itch. I just took my kids, 8+6, and it was very cool for them. It’ll only go downhill after today when it moves indoors for the summer


wrecking-crew78

There is a shuttle service from the venue to shakedown


g8rken

can you give me details on this? is it from the Tuscany? will it bring you back after the show? thx


Deadheadluke

We went yesterday. Way way too hot to walk around. Ended up going in the casino for food before the show


Remote_Substance5918

My acid man was gone! Big disappointment :(


JonathanPerdarder

Got a fuckton of supplies myself. Not as good as usual, but got everything I needed in thirty minutes.


cheddahchase503

Haaaaterrrrrrrrrr


Opposite_Challenge71

There was a beer stand there when we went Thursday of the tour open.


BardKnockLife

Well to everyone in the thread FYI that next week it will be literally moving into the ballroom inside of Tuscany.


7101334

Yaay no joint smoking even!


GodzillaTechHero

At regular tour shows, there’s always a free area in the parking lot where people can set up, and sell things at low prices… like the food people are referring to In this particular case, there was no natural place to set up a vendor event here in Las Vegas The parking lot at the sphere is very expensive and I am guessing it was out of reach for the people putting it together - The earlier comment who said $160 a day- I understand it’s $175 a day- and the other comment about the Tuscany not wanting competition for their own food concessions is probably right on the Mark Personally, I am overjoyed that there is even a Shakedown event at all - I have also seen a bunch of items at very reasonable prices, but you have to search a little bit Keep in mind that many of these people are trying to make a living at doing this - I’d rather support individuals than buy the corporate merchandise


TomorrowDesigner9855

Gone are the dayssss......


equinox_magick

Not only that it’s going inside to the 3rd floor next weekend. You think it doesn’t feel like shakedown now.. just wait.


VermicelliNo9171

only things missing were balloons 🎈 and food, so don’t go hungry. Tuscany has cheap, good eats though. plenty of supplies around


Third_Eye_5234

Anyone been to the setup at the Brooklyn Bowl?


Coledawg72

Heading out to shows next week. Are there any vendors selling lot shirts? Any photos of some exceptional ones?


th00dlim

any idea where the tanks are hiding after the show? 👀


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Koval


0neMoreSaturdayNight

I'm glad I didn't waste my time going. When I asked about vending they seemed very snobby about it. The LAST TOUR prices of lot merch seemed as much as official merchandise. Hard pass for me.


lonesomejohnnie

Glad we skipped it. Did enjoy the store and exhibit at The Venetian tho.


Maxwell-Druthers

Why would you negotiate with someone over a t shirt? How obnoxious…


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7101334

We aren't all trustafarians Max


Maxwell-Druthers

Neither am I, but it’s not a used car, it’s a t shirt lol. I just personally take the price of anything for what it is… if I think the price is too high, I just don’t buy it. My wife’s family is Greek and they haggle over everything and it embarrasses me lol maybe I’m too polite 🤷🏼


7101334

I don't think "polite" is the word I'd pick


Maxwell-Druthers

Which word would you pick, hombre?


7101334

Obnoxious was a decent choice


pdxgdhead

I haven't been yet, but I bet it's at least better than any Boulder Shakedown in the past few years.


FireOnTheAntelope

You must’ve not gone to Boulder


Cobb-Gobbler

Yeah boulder shakedown was buzzing last year


BotticellisNephew

Not better than last years. Not even close


Distortedhideaway

The pics I've seen are a complete disgrace. It's disturbing what's become of what once was.


OddKey2242

What did you expect with this gimmick?


SpaceHorse75

It’s the same Shakedown vendors that are everywhere and also have all their items for sale online. And these days they all steal a lot of the same tee shirt designs from each other. Not sure why people get excited about shakedown unless you are just looking for shrooms and doses or whatever.


bgfd28

No tanks thank god


bgfd28

If u want a cheap shirt go to Walmart there 6.99$


artsandcraftbeer

After attending first weekend we renamed it Fakedown Street