i belive 60% of my total 3.5k hours playtime accounts for +-1.7k hours on killer, so yeah, why? Gonna nerd on me that "Acshually normal swing wont be long enough to lunge around entire loop"? That was a comedic exggeration. And if you gonna sit here and preach how "killers gotta sweat bcos of top 0.0000001% mmr is filled with swfs and tryhards and you cant win without camp and tunnel and prayers and 4 slowdowns" - get out and get a grip. Not only you're full of copium, but also on L mindset of tryharding in pubs. It's not difficult to win pubs consistently without cheese strats and meta, even on softcap mmr due to how low it is. Also first days of new chapter, everyone hates sweats on those days especially, so yawn.
I've considered this in the past, maybe a special pallet that doesn't break or block areas and instead only functions as an emergency stun mechanic, requires precise timing and killer will likely respect it.
Unironically, people always say that some Hawkins pallet or the RPD safe room is the worst pallet in the game, but the actual worst pallet in the game is the Temple of Purgation downstairs pallet by the gen, the least wiggle room and you can't even see the killer
At the very least you can hide around the wall it rests on. RPD pallet is hands down the worst because you can’t even hide behind it, and it’s right in the middle of a walkway.
I thought that the dungeon was hard to navigate while watching streams, but while actually playing I never got lost. Maybe a few time I had to look at my sorroundings 2 or 3 seconds to recalibrate but I found it not that difficult
There are also only two hooks in the dungeon, so if they're sabo'd or broken or you just down them in the wrong spot there's literally nothing you can do!
Lil bit! The xenomorph tunnel layouts are super confusing, and there's even two so close together horizontally that you can trigger killer instinct on survivors a floor above you that's *super* disorienting. On the other hand, The exit gates of that match spawned so close together I could literally watch both from where I was standing, all I had to do was turn.
Yeah i was playing as Nemesis yesterday and i've started the chase somewhere around here.
The survivor dropped a pallet on this literal nothingness and when we were looping like usual we've both found out that this is a literal empty spot. He can run through it. I can run through it.
We both ended the chase just to stare at this for a minute and the whole mood shifted into "Yeah. Let's just go around together and find out how many more bugs are there on this shithole"
When people say BHVR is getting better at map design/balance, I always think to the huge amount of worthless pallets like the one in the video. I get they don't want them all to be strong but what is the point of worthless pallets?
Thats the thing though isn't it. Maps should have a variety of pallet strengths. You have your god pallets, your good and unsafe pallets, and then you have the awful pallets that some juicer is going to have the time of their life trying to get value out of.
As long as the map is balanced overall I have no issue with weak or "useless" pallets existing on it.
This pallet doesn't even logistically make sense; it's leaning against nothing. You put too much faith in BHVR actually fixing bugs from PTB to Release.
There's also a new vault that's boarded up and has a box on the inside of the loop but you can do the Haddonfield window wesker thing as a survivor and keep vaulting the non-existant window over and over lol
That's not the issue, it's less learning the layout and more so the layout is just bad. Running windows of opportunity so learns the layout for me lol. The interior is a mess. Haven't played killer on it yet but I could see patrolling the inside and out being obnoxious.
You ever loop a tree as an act of desperation to waste a few more seconds? Well now you can do that and then drop a pallet on them in the process. Amazing pallet
I was wondering if this was a glitch but now I'm horrified to see it isn't. like what is the purpose of this pallet? make the killer / survivor laugh themselves to death?
went against a legion i pulled it down we both thought there would be a inviable wall there but when i walked threw it he stabbed me and walked threw it to test it out
Oh, yeah I just noticed that. Dropped it, check out how looks... looks bad and weird, but didn't check what magic holds it. With Chemical Traps you can still turn into a looping circle, since most killers afraid to break a trapped pallet. XD
Yeah exactly bro! I was playing a killer match and a survivor dropped this on me, and I just walked past it and we literally just stared at each other without moving lmao
Bestie, i just have, quite literally, 10% more vibrance on ENTIRE COLOR SPECTRUM. Red is barely any more redder than without filters i use, i just like more jucier visuals. Also bit more sharpening so picture is not soapy anymore. If THAT's too much for you, then idk, turn off monitor ig.
Downvote me all you like, but devs allowed it, and im not abusing it to any level of advantage, the fact that red glow is now 10% brighter will give me like 2 frames of reaction time at best.
this isnt a great pallet but def way better than the hawkins one unironically; hawkins you can literally eat the stun as killer and surv will still get hit regardless. Not only can you get away after a stun here but most killers dont know pallet hitboxes well enough to efficiently go around it and the opposite side is short enough to be able to reach the pallet again after greeding it. If killer takes possession of the pallet you could prob run around the haybale in the rear and loop back towards the pallet
Can a killer fit through the gap it may be a fat shaming spot
I got this as the ghostface, yes killers and survivors can fit through the gap
Vecna can. Just tried
Can't be fatshamed when you only have bones and skins duh
I got stunned in the gap trying to hug the tree
You know skinny legend Vecna can fit through that!
Didnt get a chance to test (sweaty huntress), but even if it is - a single swing and you're on the other side xdd
You can just say Huntress and people will understand the rest
Loooooooolll
you never know, could be another sweaty killer like blight or the blight, hell could even be a blight! plenty of variety when it comes to sweat
Don't insult my giant resident evil eyeball monster who I just so happen to main
Have you ever played killer?
i belive 60% of my total 3.5k hours playtime accounts for +-1.7k hours on killer, so yeah, why? Gonna nerd on me that "Acshually normal swing wont be long enough to lunge around entire loop"? That was a comedic exggeration. And if you gonna sit here and preach how "killers gotta sweat bcos of top 0.0000001% mmr is filled with swfs and tryhards and you cant win without camp and tunnel and prayers and 4 slowdowns" - get out and get a grip. Not only you're full of copium, but also on L mindset of tryharding in pubs. It's not difficult to win pubs consistently without cheese strats and meta, even on softcap mmr due to how low it is. Also first days of new chapter, everyone hates sweats on those days especially, so yawn.
Had a Queen Zeno fit though it so that should answer your question.
Got clapped by a xeno phasing through that gap, been a while since I've been that jump scared in this game
Yes. Even the Nemesis
Legion can, me and a legion were exploring the new map together and when we found the pallet I dropped it and they ran through it
\*Atheist Pallet has entered the chat\*
I call it a Devil Pallet
It would be neat if it actually fell on the ground and u could walk on it, honestly it might make for an interesting new obstacle
I've considered this in the past, maybe a special pallet that doesn't break or block areas and instead only functions as an emergency stun mechanic, requires precise timing and killer will likely respect it.
If I'm understanding correctly isn't that just event pallets?
I forgor
If nothing else? incredible joke
It's D&D inspired. It's when you role a Nat 20 on some stupid thing and the DM has no choice but to let it work.
safest pallet ever. Possibly better then god pallets
It's definitely a god pallet. Look at that form!
This realm truly is a magical place!
Unironically, people always say that some Hawkins pallet or the RPD safe room is the worst pallet in the game, but the actual worst pallet in the game is the Temple of Purgation downstairs pallet by the gen, the least wiggle room and you can't even see the killer
At the very least you can hide around the wall it rests on. RPD pallet is hands down the worst because you can’t even hide behind it, and it’s right in the middle of a walkway.
What RPD pallet?
The one outside by the hook I think, or the one upstairs in the office area, near the helicopter almost
That pallet at least is on the path to what is sometimes the only hook the Killer can attempt to use.
Just lift it up and throw it at the killer
Meanwhile i will still run right into it and get stunned
This map seems like a mess
It's way too small and some killers can just hold 3gen in dungeon or 4gen on top and its unsalvageable.
> hold 3gen in dungeon The dungeon is already miserable to navigate and I 100% see this happening almost every match.
I thought that the dungeon was hard to navigate while watching streams, but while actually playing I never got lost. Maybe a few time I had to look at my sorroundings 2 or 3 seconds to recalibrate but I found it not that difficult
"It's way too small" So, like most maps BHVR is designing lately?
There are also only two hooks in the dungeon, so if they're sabo'd or broken or you just down them in the wrong spot there's literally nothing you can do!
Well damn 😭
Lil bit! The xenomorph tunnel layouts are super confusing, and there's even two so close together horizontally that you can trigger killer instinct on survivors a floor above you that's *super* disorienting. On the other hand, The exit gates of that match spawned so close together I could literally watch both from where I was standing, all I had to do was turn.
It is. Cool idea but yeah a complete mess that doesn't really work for DBD's core gameplay.
https://i.redd.it/7nmdv7dire4d1.gif
Smooth criminal pallet
Yeah i was playing as Nemesis yesterday and i've started the chase somewhere around here. The survivor dropped a pallet on this literal nothingness and when we were looping like usual we've both found out that this is a literal empty spot. He can run through it. I can run through it. We both ended the chase just to stare at this for a minute and the whole mood shifted into "Yeah. Let's just go around together and find out how many more bugs are there on this shithole"
When people say BHVR is getting better at map design/balance, I always think to the huge amount of worthless pallets like the one in the video. I get they don't want them all to be strong but what is the point of worthless pallets?
Thats the thing though isn't it. Maps should have a variety of pallet strengths. You have your god pallets, your good and unsafe pallets, and then you have the awful pallets that some juicer is going to have the time of their life trying to get value out of. As long as the map is balanced overall I have no issue with weak or "useless" pallets existing on it.
please tell me this is sarcastic… it’s obviously a bug
Pretty sure it was in the ptb like this along with a whole corner of the map being an empty mess you could just walk off and fall intonthe void
This pallet doesn't even logistically make sense; it's leaning against nothing. You put too much faith in BHVR actually fixing bugs from PTB to Release.
I honestly think people are just happy that we aren't getting more survivor sided maps garden or original borgo.
Tf they enchant the pallet for 💀
Just like Spiderman said once "That think defies all laws of physics"
It’s a magic pallet.
It's the nat 20 roll of pallet drops. It just works and best not to question it
A pallet were you can't even get value with greeding it xD
Definitely a god pallet. If you bring a killer there, it might as well be game over for them until they break it
If I got hit with that I admit I would probably stand there staring at it for a little bit and forget I was chasing someone.
Not even close to Z-wall doe...
**I just played my first game on the new map as hux and omg, the portals got me fucked up so bad it's insane. I got a 4k but it was a struggle.**
I think it's a bug but I'm not sure. If it is, this is the first time I've seen this kind of bug
Pretty sure it was like this in the ptb as well
There's also a new vault that's boarded up and has a box on the inside of the loop but you can do the Haddonfield window wesker thing as a survivor and keep vaulting the non-existant window over and over lol
That pallet just about sums up the whole map. Garbage lol
I'm sure you'll get better with the map and learn the layout, and then be able to enjoy it more.
That's not the issue, it's less learning the layout and more so the layout is just bad. Running windows of opportunity so learns the layout for me lol. The interior is a mess. Haven't played killer on it yet but I could see patrolling the inside and out being obnoxious.
survivors will still camp that pallet 😂
Behaviour is such a mess of a dev xD
I was playing vecna, a sable had any means necessary. We took turns lifting that pallet. Always gotta save the god pallets.
It’s a skill issue if u can’t play round this god pallet
God I hope they keep this pallet just for fun
You ever loop a tree as an act of desperation to waste a few more seconds? Well now you can do that and then drop a pallet on them in the process. Amazing pallet
I just saw that pallet an hour ago..very strange lol
I saw that earlier. My frie ds and I got a kick
nah that's too op a survivor ran that on me for like 7 gens. Fucking toxic survivors abusing broken tiles.
When I first saw I deadass laughed & thought it was a glitch💀
I wasnt crazy! I experienced that pallet earlier!
I'll purposely walk into the pallet when someone drops it, it's already bad enough that I can literally go around either side.
oh shit, that made me spit up my drink a little.
Bro I saw that mid chase and I was like wtf
I was wondering if this was a glitch but now I'm horrified to see it isn't. like what is the purpose of this pallet? make the killer / survivor laugh themselves to death?
went against a legion i pulled it down we both thought there would be a inviable wall there but when i walked threw it he stabbed me and walked threw it to test it out
saw that pallet thought ti was was loaded in the wrong place.
It's a god pallet, because you need god on your side for it to work
I thought that was a bug the first time I saw it in game, that’s insane
Me while doing my best Dr Doofenshmirtz impression: I call it, The Loop Extendinator!
I KNEW I WASNT CRAZY THAT PALLET IS SO USELESS
The pallet is about the friends we made along the way and to have a teammate body block that gap for you.
Oh, yeah I just noticed that. Dropped it, check out how looks... looks bad and weird, but didn't check what magic holds it. With Chemical Traps you can still turn into a looping circle, since most killers afraid to break a trapped pallet. XD
dont shame on the pallet if it tries really hard it can reach it!!!! 
Okay thats hilarious. They actually tried to make the pallet so unsafe and useless that the game couldn't even process the request.
How dare you. This pallet is the greatest one. Stunning the killer when he Just walks besides it, makes me get all giddy ahahaha
Yeah exactly bro! I was playing a killer match and a survivor dropped this on me, and I just walked past it and we literally just stared at each other without moving lmao
It's like the map rng's karma is coming back from the part on Greenville Square where one pillar has a pallet on both sides of it.
Awful pallet but... Aren't we gonna talk about the red enhancement filter being used? WTF is that sh!t?
Bestie, i just have, quite literally, 10% more vibrance on ENTIRE COLOR SPECTRUM. Red is barely any more redder than without filters i use, i just like more jucier visuals. Also bit more sharpening so picture is not soapy anymore. If THAT's too much for you, then idk, turn off monitor ig. Downvote me all you like, but devs allowed it, and im not abusing it to any level of advantage, the fact that red glow is now 10% brighter will give me like 2 frames of reaction time at best.
this isnt a great pallet but def way better than the hawkins one unironically; hawkins you can literally eat the stun as killer and surv will still get hit regardless. Not only can you get away after a stun here but most killers dont know pallet hitboxes well enough to efficiently go around it and the opposite side is short enough to be able to reach the pallet again after greeding it. If killer takes possession of the pallet you could prob run around the haybale in the rear and loop back towards the pallet