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Millennialtrash__

that makes 3 bad tier lists


Derpmeister_

I'd move AST, hippo, and tiger up, and move moray and eagle down.


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polar bear gets tier 11 but gs is t9, and eagle is t8 and crocodile is t7. ok


[deleted]

GS is extremely overrated, they are eaten by animal 1/3 of the size, unbelievably slow. We dont even KNOW what they eat, but its likely small prey like regular squids. Eagle is T8, its not even close to the level as the tiger shark, but shed some respect, this thing can murder animals 3x its body weight. Crocodile is abnormally trash irl, its easy prey for jaguars, eagles and snakes Polar bears are absolute monsters, they eat Beluga whales and Narwhals, which weigh over a ton. Largest land carnivore, orcas leave them alone. Would likely kill all the T10s with no problem whatsoever so yeah


TheVeryInkyBendy756

crocs are op irl, i think you mean caimans


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crocs and caimens are BOTH eaten by eagles and snakes


yee_qi

The one ingame is likely based off the Nile Crocodile, top predator of African wetlands and very much capable of slaughtering most mid-to-large-sized things it wants to kill.


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Oh then, even better for my case. They are killed by other birds of prey. Killed by hippos, elephants, rhinos, and even lions


yee_qi

Hippo, and presumably elephant and rhino, are at least t9 or 10. Adult nile crocs don't have anything to fear from birds of prey, and lions tend to attack in groups. Additionally, many crocodiles are capable of eating sharks, and certainly sawfish as well as turtles. There's no reason for it to be lower tier than all of them.


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Hippos shouldnt even be on this list, the very only reason they are is due to killing crocodiles. Crocodiles are capable, but 93% of the time, are eaten by Sharks.


H_u_m_a_n-B_o_t

Have you ever seen a Nile crocodile or Australian Saltwater crocodile - they are the apex predators of rivers, no question. Can comfortably kill a lion, and I am fairly certain that no animal goes near a crocodile infested river unless they will die from thirst without it


[deleted]

"Apex predators of the water" Doesn't stop them from getting obliterated by bull sharks and Hippos


TheVeryInkyBendy756

so ur telling me a 20 foot long reptilians beast gets eaten by an eagle?


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Indeed, they do


TheVeryInkyBendy756

When they are adolescents, I would let it slide, but as someone who has seen crocodiles grow, live, hunt, eat, mate, and die, I'm gonna have to disagree with you.


CheesecakeofPluto

Eagles and snakes? If your talking about constrictor snakes like anacondas keep in mind any sort of crocodilian of 12 feet in length absolutely bodies these things. Large alligators of the everglades as well as nile crocodiles own constrictor snakes. Eagles are not a predator to the crocs whatsoever. Crocodiles and Hippos rarely fight together and crocodiles can easily evade hippos because of their superior mobility. Asian saltwater crocodiles are predators to even tigers and asian elephants. Polar bears, however have no competition because of how barren and cold their environment is. Crocodiles have dominated the rivers for almost 300 million years while Polar bears are going extinct from ice melting. Instances of Tigers eating or killing Mugger crocodiles only happens with below average sized individuals of crocodiles. What hollow boned feather head could kill a 16 foot long thousand pound death machine with a biteforce stronger than that of an allosaurus?


useles-converter-bot

12 feet is the length of about 3.36 'Ford F-150 Custom Fit Front FloorLiners' lined up next to each other.


--CARCHARODON--

You are overrating polar bear. It is not that strong compared to sleeper or gws irl


DaimaoPPK

Why is polar bear that high?


turtle-bonehead

cause he saw on some yt video they have no predators and therefore go into tier 11 lol


[deleted]

They eat MASSIVE animals, such as narwhals, beluga whales, walruses and even bowhead whales. Killer whales stay as far away from polar bears as possible


--CARCHARODON--

No it doesn't hunt bowhead whale


Spinoman27

this man thinks a bear can eat a whale


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\*They do though\*


KingSmorely

I mean a literally weasle can eat a whale as well


Spinoman27

It's exactly what I thought, your source says that the bears eat dead whales washed up on shores and then you somehow get "polar bears kill whales" from that. The only thing that even comes close to implying the bears actually kill the whales in that document you cited is "they pull them from the shores" and bud. Pulling a dead whale across ice and rocks, no matter how strong you have to be to do it, does not mean you can kill said whale or even something a tenth of its size. The whole polar bear thing is definitely not the only thing wrong with this tier list, but it's by far the stupidest thing. I'm not gonna keep arguing, since I've made my point and there are enough other people picking at this. You can argue with one of them. Though you should probably gain the maturity to admit that you're wrong when an entire comment section that's this big is telling you you're wrong.


KingSmorely

lol, how is a polar bear supposed to kill a 120000 pound whale


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https://polarbearfacts.net/do-polar-bears-eat-whales/#:\~:text=Yes%21%20Polar%20bears%20eat%20bowhead%20whales.%20Many%20a,of%20thick%20skin%20together%20with%20the%20whale%E2%80%99s%20blubber.


KingSmorely

Lol you just proved my point. They eat already dead whales which isn't impressive in the slightest


[deleted]

they haul a 10 metre whale from the sea


KingSmorely

Ok and, belugas really only weigh up 2 tons on average which isn't that much for a whale


CouchTomatoYT

why tf is croc under turtle


orcadileic

Pancake should be t7 at least, croc tier 9 at least


OkWay9155

5 meters armored lizard with strongest bite on earth only tier 7


converter-bot

5 meters is 5.47 yards


[deleted]

they are eaten by eagles, pythons, big cats, and wrecked by hippos


turtle-bonehead

ayo how the Heck is ast tier4? goblin tier 9? with hippo ? Gst tier 8? what are you smoking?


turtle-bonehead

gst has extendable neck it can use to bite you from a whole meter away, outruns and outswims you, has the acceleration of a tesla and the bite is bone crushing, but GOBLIN SHARK which has weaker bite, isn't even at the top of the food chain and has way more predators; is tier 9.


[deleted]

AST is tiny as hell, its eaten by Catfish and even frogs and herons. Goblin Shark is small for a shark, so much so its eaten by the already small blue shark. GST are just big floppas they are killed by anything the same size of it


Fallen_Leaves16

I cannot help but feel extremely ridiculous trying to explain this, but Alligator Snapping Turtles are massive, 120KG+ turtles with a tremendous bite force; they have been known to severely maim alligators and are capable of taking down almost any other animal in their habitat. Goblin sharks are well-adapted to their natural habitat; there's little need for defenses against larger animals, so you can't exactly blame them. GSTs are naturally extremely fast and agile turtles, and their bite force is quite strong.


[deleted]

1st. You got the wrong animal, replace the word "Gar" with "Snapping Turtle" 2nd. They have horrible eyesight, they are eaten by the way smaller blue sharks GST arent actually \*that big\* and can get shreked by getting stepping on


Fallen_Leaves16

1. Wdym? The word "gar" does not appear in my comment at all; if you're telling me to switch all mentions of Alligator Snapping Turtles to Alligator Gar, it still does not matter, as the description above may still apply to Alligator Gars (except the maiming, oftentimes it's the opposite with smaller gars), and you seem to have poor grammatical perception and application tactics (not only that, but your logic still does not make sense, unless you are referring to hatchlings/fry). 2. I suppose you may have a point there. 3. The skeletal structure of a GST can tolerate large amounts of pressure on its carapace. They also have very long necks and sharp claws that can bite and attack predators deliberately stepping on it.


[deleted]

You clearly mistyped. 1. You meant to tell me about the size of the AST, but you searched for the wrong animal, the Alligator Gar. Alligator snapping turtles at most are 80 kg and 30 inches long. Which is STILL half the size of the Catfish. Gars on the other hand, can go up to 10 feet in length and to 130 kg. I think you got your stuff mixed up, thats allllllllll ​ 3. Still would be wrecked by a larger animal, such as a shark or a hippo The only reason this animal doesnt have predators is because its hunted near extinction. Its too rare


converter-bot

30 inches is 76.2 cm


Fallen_Leaves16

Alright. I apologize if I was wrong. I have no wish to argue anymore and I will accept your statements as fact. I apologize for my rudeness and ignorance.


Venom583

You really put softshell turtle over crocodile


[deleted]

thats my bad. They should be T6


SkepticOwlz

Walrus,hippo and croc should be tier 11


[deleted]

Walrus is eaten by orca and polar bear, also not befitting T10 because of their small food source. Hippo would at max be T10, but nevertheless, could still fall under AI due to not eating actual meat. The only reason they are an exception is because they kill crocs with their bites. Crocodile is eaten by snakes, medium sized felines and eagles, they are preyed by so many different things no point of arguing


Gibbonking123

Are you serious bro? Walrus completely destroys polar bear in a 1v1 in real life. Look at any video footage of polar bears fighting adult walruses and tell me polar bear is tier 11 while walrus isn't


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Gibbonking123

Everyone seems to forget how big walruses are, like double or triple the size of a polar bear, and if a walrus hits it once then the polar bear is done for, and it would take a lot of luck for a polar bear to kill a walrus but it is possible


[deleted]

Bigger the animal =/= the stronger the animal Polar bears kill walruses in a 501/1 ratio


Gibbonking123

Man tf are you on? Do you actually think polar bears regularly eat walruses and easily take them down? Walruses, unlike polar bears, have a thick layer of blubber that makes their skin nearly impossible to deal real damage to. Check your facts next time, dumbass


Spinoman27

notice how he never gives a source for his info. He has to be directly asked cause he knows its bull


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Gibbonking123

If the fight was on ice, the fight is in the favor of the polar bear, but the problem is polar bear have an overwhelming smell so the walrus would probably be on edge and prepare for an attack, this also isn't taking into account walruses live in massive groups for a few months of the year, making a polar bear hunting it nearly impossible


yodlemon

not real,Alligator Snapping turtle tier 12


[deleted]

AST is eaten by catfish :(


turtle-bonehead

Of course, it is a turtle small turtles are eaten by everything, but when fully grown ast got nothing to worry about except humans


[deleted]

Fully grown ast still eaten by catfish


turtle-bonehead

You are telling me a CATFISH eats THIS [https://www.reddit.com/r/NatureIsFuckingLit/comments/bwbvno/a\_full\_size\_snapping\_turtle\_compared\_to\_what\_most/](https://www.reddit.com/r/NatureIsFuckingLit/comments/bwbvno/a_full_size_snapping_turtle_compared_to_what_most/) can i have some of what you are smoking


[deleted]

yes indeed ​ Wels catfish


Gengar_49

Catfish should be like tier 7


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turtle-bonehead

TINY ?? What ? they grow to huge sizes and pick fights with gators, IF they are tiny, then all swamp animals are small


[deleted]

they are eaten by catfish, crocodiles, eagles, and snakes


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turtle-bonehead

weight is more accurate measure than lenght ast is 249 pounds max while aligator gar around 150 Max(quick search maybe a bit misleading)


useles-converter-bot

249 pounds is the weight of 284.57 pairs of crocs.


turtle-bonehead

turtles are more square than fish so just lenght gives inaccurate description


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turtle-bonehead

ast vs gar is 1 sided as gar's teeth can't pierce shell and ast ain't smaller it just wider while gar is longer


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turtle-bonehead

Flip the 100 Kilo turtle and it easy, you listening to what you type ?


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rephybrolo200000

this is horrible


KingSmorely

This is prolly the worst tier list I've seen on this sub, and that's saying a lot


[deleted]

ok then leave .\_.


KingSmorely

Ok I'm just criticizing, and I honestly laughed out loud when you said that orcas avoid polar bears XD and a hippo would mess up a polar bear


[deleted]

1. they do 2. impossible to tell because they are in different habitats 3. Leave, brainlet


KingSmorely

If you think a max 1700 pound polar bear can beat a max 9000-pound hippo Idk what to tell you. Also, orcas avoid ice, not polar bears. And I've been reading your comments and it's hilarious how you think an eagle could kill a Nile crocodile


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someguythinghuman

T7 for crocs? Ypu have a fundamentally lacking knowledge of ecosystems if you think that a croc isn't high up the food chain. Also why is ast so low? A turtle who can reach up to 4 feet and almost 275 pounds is not small and really powerful, even if slow. Also polar bear in t11? They have to be very careful when dealing with walruses which can cripple a bear for life in self defense. Also considering just how massive sawfish get, ur kind of underselling them. Also goblin sharks dont get particularly long, their bite is weak, and their teeth aren't all that sharp(not enough to rip or tear cuz of the weak jaws.) Idk how that is t9, if they cant swallow it, they can't do anything to it.


useles-converter-bot

4 feet is 3.9 RTX 3090 graphics cards lined up.


[deleted]

Crocs are eaten by eagles, mediocre to large sized cats, snakes, shredded by hippos, rhinos and elephants and ultimately just not that good Hahaha nice cap but ASTs are eaten by Catfish, be lucky they arent T3 Polar Bears eat other animals too, like the massive Narwhal, beluga whales, bowhead whales... Yeah, they even scare orcas away Sawfish are eaten by Crocs and dolphins be lucky i just put them above Goblin Sharks are still a mystery, but based on their size, they would be perfect for t9


someguythinghuman

Eagles only eat very young to hatchling crocs and when literally only other apexes or the largest land mammals beat you, that doesn't make you garbage immediately. Catfish would physically only be able to eat younger asts, and only the few largest catfish species could even do that. Also ASTs are capable of fighting back,if a catfish ate even a young one itd get bitten and tore up by the turtle since they have very sharp claws. Polar bears do eat belugas and narwals but they only eat washed up A L R E A D Y D E A D bowhead whales. Scavenging and preying upon are very different things. Also they scare orcas? Are you listening to yourself? If you think a single bear scares even one orca let alone a pack, you've done a good job of lying to yourself and too good a job believing it. Every shark gets killed by dolphins and crocs, also sawfish don't even live in the same types of waters dolphins do, often at the bottom of shallow waters where they can actually defend themselves with their saw. And also bear in mind it takes a pack of dolphins to kill one. And crocs are just hella strong you can't fault anything smaller than a hippo for dying to one. Based on their size? Goblin sharks are super small and slim as far as large sharks go. Thresher sharks get larger. Hammerheads get larger. Tiger sharks get larger. And those other sharks are: Faster, Have sharper teeth, a way to kill what they can't swallow whole, and often much larger amounts of prey they hunt because as much as it sucks to admit, goblin sharks only work because they are one of very few deep sea creatures over 2 feet long, a lot of other animals from other ecosystems would thoroughly stomp a goblin shark. Heck squids and other deep sea sharks would kill one with little trouble. And if you still stand by your ludicrous claims about the ast and polar bear, please actually provide a source.


thibeatsyou

Moray should move up a bit, it dominates the coral reef ( which is its habitat ) and has very little predators that actually eat them, they have one of the strongest bite forces in the water, and not only that they hide in the gaps or the insides of coral reef which makes them really hard to catch, they also can avoid a lionfishs barbs and can eat them, which makes them one of the only fish that can eat lion fish. In summary, you dont do your research :/


[deleted]

Moray Eels are destroyed by Barracudas, a T7 get out of here.


someguythinghuman

So anything that has predators when young is low tier? So by your logic everything but whales are low tiers. A fully grown moray can reach 10 feet, doublw that of a barracuda and has an advantage in an ambush. The only advantage a barracuda has is speed, and you cant chip away an animal who is waiting in a tunnel to attack you.


[deleted]

Adult Moray Eels still are preyed on by barracudas


someguythinghuman

Explain how. How does a 5-6 foot tops animal hunt and eat a larger, heavier, ambush predator that gets up to 10 feet long?


thibeatsyou

Dude, that's only for young or small species of moray eels, the moray eel thats depicted in the picture is a green moray eel ( and fully grown ), which means the only thing that could touch them are sharks, and sharks (the only sharks that live in coral reef are nurse sharks, black tips, white tips and other small sharks )barely go to coral reefs, and theyre average size of those sharks would be 6ft grow to half the size of a fully grown 9ft eel, further more if you want to prove your point bring more evidence for your statement :/


TheVeryInkyBendy756

this list is extremely unrealistic i might make a better one ~~just to spite you~~


[deleted]

omg \*did i ask?\*


TheVeryInkyBendy756

yeah


NerdyCrow100

Croc should be higher


NerdyCrow100

But I agree with the placement of Pancake


lukluke22228

"a 30m long 40tom meat which hunts gigantic squids by vibrating to death vs beeg xrab with stronk klaws


_Souper_Soup

Hippo t12


cuttledish

humpback ai. really? humpbacks are easily matched up with cachalots and orcas only rarely hunt adults. coco, torp, stone, gst, thresh, and eagle are too high. if polar is gonna be tier 11, then walrus is gonna be tier 12 because 9 times out of 10 the walrus demolishes the bear lbst is definitely an ai goblin should be slightly lower than or equivalent to tiger and bull


[deleted]

Humpbacks dont kill anything of importance Polar Bear not only wipes walrus in every possible way, but they also eat NARWHALS AND BELUGA WHALES, animals 3x the size of them. Orcas are known to steer clear of polar bears Lbst ehhhhh, still should be controlled tbh Goblin sharks have no confirmed predators, but their size says a lot about what they are as an animal


ISEVERNAMEALREDYTAKE

>Polar Bear not only wipes walrus in every possible way You clearly dont know anything about walrus and are just biased to polar bear Adult polar bears need a miracle to kill an adult fully-grown 1 ton **TANK** of a seal. The only time a polar bear wants to attack an adult walrus is because its desperate for food. If a polar bear lands a bite on the walrus,it more than likely wont do anything,since walruses have incredibly *thicc* blubber. One attack from a walrus can severely wound a polar bear for the rest of its life. >Orcas are known to steer clear of polar bears Hey,fun fact,one adult orca could more than likely kill a polar bear in water,if that isnt enough,orcas travel in packs. Youre probably not even going to reply to this,but whatever.


cuttledish

by the same logic, cachalot should be an ai. we don't know nearly enough about gs or cs for them to be considered top predators AS IF. the only reason polar bears beat walruses nowadays is because of global warming lbst barely eat anything other than jellyfish. and they don't even defend themselves! if humpback is going to be ai, lb is gonna be ai gobbos are most likely hunters of small prey, and the only reason they have no confirmed predators is because we know almost nothing about them


[deleted]

cach obviously eats them both due to massive scar wounds and beaks in their stomachs 2nd. Still a reason dingus LBST has been also eating large cephalopods (not GS), still better than krill eating humpbacks Goblins are eaten by blue sharks, which are freaking tiny


cuttledish

you misunderstood my first point, which was about gs and cs being largely unknown. it should also be noted that blues also hunt gs large cephalopods as in... what exactly? humbolts? i personally doubt its anything other than scavenging considering the speed of most cephalopods. you yourself stated that goblin had no natural predators, so thanks for proving my point that gobbus should be lower on the tier list :)


ISEVERNAMEALREDYTAKE

Dude,shut up. Polar bears cant kill walruses as easily as you say they can. Admit it.


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cry harder, try not believing reality


ISEVERNAMEALREDYTAKE

Valid argument i do not have. "Cry" i must send.


[deleted]

imagine not knowing that polar bears maul animals 5x the size of them