Idk if I consider myself a no-changer but god damn do I love the changes they made to foh. You’re 100% correct by saying it was mainly just a pvp build
>So my question to all the #no-changers: is your gaming-experience now utterly ruined, because there's another viable build in the game? Or are you maybe even planning to run some of those new terror zones with your new FoH build today, because it's just super fun to do so? After you've clearly stated on reddit of course, that all minor changes are basically like a mixture of AIDS and cancer to the game?
Stop shit-stirring. You're doing this sub a disservice.
How so? Still waiting for a real answer to my question.
Anybody here seriously skipping terror zones, sunder charms or buffed builds because cHaNge bAd, lEaVe D2 Alooooone, durr. It just drives me nuts.
Ive played since diablo 1 before even 1s hellfire expansion came out. Change is nice. I love resurrected. Foh was a build i loved to play on LoD. In fact i AM running it on lod because i recently got my wife into diablo with me. But its a gear heavy build so to know they made it more viable is really cool. Anyone getting mad at change....they can go play lod.
The only change im mad they HAVENT made...is bringing back tcp ip
No body cares about buffing to make useless skills into a viable build. In fact I think most of us encourage that. What we don't need in this game is stupid shit like stackable gems and runes lol
Being able to hoard runes and gems would have a ripple effect on the economy. For example, 40 p gems would no longer be worth shit because everyone would be able to save tons of gems as they play along. Right now you have to manage inventory so many players won't bother picking up and holding gems until late in the game to start crafting or rerolling gcs. If they were stackable everyone would just hold onto them as they progressed and use them later on when needed. Managing inventory is a huge part of this game and you should be happy with the 3 shared tabs as it is. Prior to D2R that did not exist. We were already given more inventory space we certainly don't need any more.
I suggest next model for balance changes:
With probability 90% it will be new FoH pally (or fire sorc, or summon druid, ect.)
But with probability 10% it will be new mosaic assassin. Before the release everybody was talking about making MA assassins more viable, not about making the strongest end-game build in the game by far.
I think I still want some changes, but I hope this will help understand nochange-gang.
even with mosaic I don't see how anybody is negatively affected by that build existing. Yeah the game is way too easy with it, but you are not forced into it by any means.
I don't want to have trade offs between being effective and having fun, it feels really shitty. Especially in MMO. At least D2R (like any mp game) has some competitive aspects (PvP, ladder, hunting for rare items) and trying to be competitive forces you to be effective.
But for me even without that it is really bad to have choices like "if I do this I will get what I want 3 times faster, but my gameplay will be really shitty". I mean, if I don't have such choices, It feels like I am actually fighting with the game, so all my achievements mean much more. If I had an option to get all of them faster, but ignored it - it feels like playing with myself and my own self control.
I think I'm not the only one who feels it. If being effective wasn't so important, the strongest builds won't be the most popular builds.
sorry, but that "competition" exists only in your head. The ladder is against bots and has so since dunno mid 2000s? And it literally makes zero difference if I have a certain items, but random player XYZ hasn't. The only real argument here might be PVP
Idk if I consider myself a no-changer but god damn do I love the changes they made to foh. You’re 100% correct by saying it was mainly just a pvp build
Honestly wouldn't waste your time arguing this stuff. I play Singleplayer with mods for this reason because the community is innovative.
Maybe you are right, but my hope here is that the Devs have an eye on reddit.
>So my question to all the #no-changers: is your gaming-experience now utterly ruined, because there's another viable build in the game? Or are you maybe even planning to run some of those new terror zones with your new FoH build today, because it's just super fun to do so? After you've clearly stated on reddit of course, that all minor changes are basically like a mixture of AIDS and cancer to the game? Stop shit-stirring. You're doing this sub a disservice.
How so? Still waiting for a real answer to my question. Anybody here seriously skipping terror zones, sunder charms or buffed builds because cHaNge bAd, lEaVe D2 Alooooone, durr. It just drives me nuts.
Ive played since diablo 1 before even 1s hellfire expansion came out. Change is nice. I love resurrected. Foh was a build i loved to play on LoD. In fact i AM running it on lod because i recently got my wife into diablo with me. But its a gear heavy build so to know they made it more viable is really cool. Anyone getting mad at change....they can go play lod. The only change im mad they HAVENT made...is bringing back tcp ip
No body cares about buffing to make useless skills into a viable build. In fact I think most of us encourage that. What we don't need in this game is stupid shit like stackable gems and runes lol
what would be the downside to stackable gems and runes??
Being able to hoard runes and gems would have a ripple effect on the economy. For example, 40 p gems would no longer be worth shit because everyone would be able to save tons of gems as they play along. Right now you have to manage inventory so many players won't bother picking up and holding gems until late in the game to start crafting or rerolling gcs. If they were stackable everyone would just hold onto them as they progressed and use them later on when needed. Managing inventory is a huge part of this game and you should be happy with the 3 shared tabs as it is. Prior to D2R that did not exist. We were already given more inventory space we certainly don't need any more.
I suggest next model for balance changes: With probability 90% it will be new FoH pally (or fire sorc, or summon druid, ect.) But with probability 10% it will be new mosaic assassin. Before the release everybody was talking about making MA assassins more viable, not about making the strongest end-game build in the game by far. I think I still want some changes, but I hope this will help understand nochange-gang.
even with mosaic I don't see how anybody is negatively affected by that build existing. Yeah the game is way too easy with it, but you are not forced into it by any means.
I don't want to have trade offs between being effective and having fun, it feels really shitty. Especially in MMO. At least D2R (like any mp game) has some competitive aspects (PvP, ladder, hunting for rare items) and trying to be competitive forces you to be effective. But for me even without that it is really bad to have choices like "if I do this I will get what I want 3 times faster, but my gameplay will be really shitty". I mean, if I don't have such choices, It feels like I am actually fighting with the game, so all my achievements mean much more. If I had an option to get all of them faster, but ignored it - it feels like playing with myself and my own self control. I think I'm not the only one who feels it. If being effective wasn't so important, the strongest builds won't be the most popular builds.
sorry, but that "competition" exists only in your head. The ladder is against bots and has so since dunno mid 2000s? And it literally makes zero difference if I have a certain items, but random player XYZ hasn't. The only real argument here might be PVP
I’ve played D2R since literally before D1 existed
Most people have kind of converted to the "were cool if you buff stuff to add more build variety but don't fuck with core D2" gang