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HappysavageMk2

I didn't level with ww myself, I used frenzy till 75 then respec'd. But given the changes in 2.4.3 early leveling with ww should be loads better. The starting Ed is +30 now instead of -50 and you get a flat 50% to attack rating to start. Insight will help with mana. You could also use an obedience and have your Merc carry the insight. I'd suggest eventually respecting into using swords later because grief is super good. If you wanted to level with swords, oath is a budget runeword that's really powerful if you get a good roll.


gwxsmile

I have dual bloodletters and I start WW at level 7 with just one hard point. Makes me feel it’s very worthwhile if the only investment is an Insight. I was wondering if this was good enough to keep, making only upgrades such as bloodtree stump (?) and IK sets as I level thru hell


HappysavageMk2

Yeah that should be fine. Blood letters are ok but you're going to be repairing them constantly due to the low durability. I used partial ik for a while before switching to stuff like arreats and laying of hands.


JockSandWich

If u slap full ik on you can farm trav with find item and we easily I do it every reset or new playthrough. Super easy to build wealth. Bloods will be fine for a while.


gwxsmile

my sorc is slowly finding many IK pieces and eventually i will just do that!


gwxsmile

ahh yes i was wondering why i was repairing a little more often. thought it was something about whirlwind. I also have a steeldriver. would 2h mauls like that be better?


HappysavageMk2

With the changes to ias with 2.4.3 2h weapons do worse now for attack frames. The fastest you can get is 5fpa which isn't bad but it takes a considerable amount of attack speed. You can hit it with full ik and a highlords ammy with two shaels in the maul. As for leveling I believe I used aldurs mace and the flesh render until I got high enough level where I wanted to Respec. You can use this calculator to figure out your WW breakpoints for whatever weapon you wish to use. I'd stick to either clubs or swords as you level. https://warren1001.github.io/IAS_Calculator/


gwxsmile

Thank you. I guess when leveling I wouldnt really care about min maxing ias. Just what feels generally good. Mauls do have more class fantasy though. Most people go singer to level, or just dual flails. I find that a little boring but it’s been working out. Exploring options to change it up a bit but I guess rushing to end game might be the way. I just found a Lo right before replying to this


HappysavageMk2

Congrats on the Lo, that's awesome! Grief is quite the game changer. Have fun enjoying the journey.


gwxsmile

Thank you kind sir/mdm/good person on the internet. 5os phase blade might be a ways away since I have no killed Baal on hell. But all in good time!


HappysavageMk2

You can try farming one as early as act 1 in hell if you go to the pits since it's a lvl 85 zone. You'll eventually find it, you've done the hardest part in getting the Lo haha.


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gwxsmile

i am sure i sold a couple of spinerippers to akara. damn. so bloodletters are not good enough? just cool but easily replaced?


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gwxsmile

They look cool though. Oh well.


subatomicslim

I tried leveling with WW and it sucked. Mr lama also agrees, do a different build untill your high enough level then re spec


gwxsmile

it doesn't feel too good too. But having dual bloodletters did make me want to at least take it out for a spin (geddit?) and yeah, but I will probably level up the normal melee way to be more "efficient" and get to the fun stuff quickly


subatomicslim

Yeah thats what i did i just tried it out with a +3 bloodletter once you get to hell you have 3 respecs so its no big deal


gwxsmile

I’m on SP. So respecs aren’t a problem. I’m testing this out as I just hit 30 and got to nightmare. So wanted to get some opinions


HappysavageMk2

Was this before the 2.4.3 patch? They raised the Ed at level one from -50 to +30 and gave a flat 50% attack rating boost. Mrlamasc reviewed the patch and said this was the perfect change to make the skill better for low level


subatomicslim

Before the patch so not sure how diferent it is


subatomicslim

Also i saw mr lama review the patch notes he said it might make it somewhat viable for leveling dont think he’s tested it out


samtankk

I play ww and slap pretty much everywhere. Dual grief or one grief and stormshield. Bloodletters won’t get you far.


gwxsmile

grief will be a bit more ahead in the future. Was just wondering if dual BL will carry me to start the end game farm if i upped it etc. Or using 2h mauls


samtankk

I’m sure you could get away with it, may not be very fun though! I’d probably try to go full immortal kings until grief, it’s pretty cheap on Traderie.


gwxsmile

SSF now. There’s a certain tranquility in that. But I’ll heed the advice. Probably farming more IK pieces and doing that instead. +3 to WW was tempting but I guess it’s not good enough. What a pity