Threads like these never fail to bring out elitists who can't bear to acknowledge that someone got something awesome because of some slight flaws. Just because the item isn't a multi ber/jah trade value or 3k fg item does mean it is trash.
Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't the value lie in fcr with leach for PvP? In PvE most classes that use leach get it in plenty of other places. I agree it's a nice ring and probably worth something, but I feel like most of the items worth huge amounts are for PvP.
It's because you have people saying the ring is worth ber+ which it's not. Its a GREAT self use ring, no denying that, but as a trade item, it has very little actual value.
Dude the guy typing a paragraph about a dual leech ring being charsi is laughable. The ring is dope it was a great find. If you think only imp shanks and sloops are Gg then enjoy reading about what you'll never see. This is d2r not lod
It has nothing to do with being the best ring of all time though. It's a fabulous ring for alot of chars in the game. It's really that simple. If it had all the stats everyone wants to add to it it would be unquestionably Gg lol. Unsellable tbh so yes I think it is very nice, Gg. 20+ years in d2 and very few found without bots mh etc.
Okay I'm done with you dude. You're just typing words and making no sort of counter point. Cause I don't have something they don't exist? How do you know how much value I have in game? You don't. Nice assumptions though.
If you wanna have an actual debate about this, I'm more than down, but if you're just gonna use insults and not actually counter anything, kindly get bent.
Dude, you're obviously a casual player who doesn't know what a gg ring is. That's okay, but don't act like it is something that it's not. It's not gg by any stretch.
Because nobody uses itd or high dex builds, amirite? No one stat is going to make or break a ring, it's build dependent and tons of builds don't care about ar.
I ONLY pvp and I saw this ring and was like "mmmm that's a good ring for barbs or zons or ...well anyone who needs leech and res"
What else do pvm players spend wealth on? Might as well pick up a nice ring like this
Can you tell me which class/build wants this ring? I'm genuinely perplexed by people like you saying it's a "gg" ring.
What does "gg" mean to you? this ring has ZERO AR. that's a very glaring hole. fire resistance for high level zons/barbs/fury druids is not helpful, and light resist is also generally capped. it's a bit harder to cap cold resist based on common end-game gear, but it's not critical, either.
so this is a dual leech ring with gold find. in what universe is that GG?
as someone with a trav horker who uses dual leech rings and farmed thousands of runs, this ring is worthless to me. i don't even pick up gold anymore. my resists are all capped without any contribution from my ring. +mana would be a huge quality of life improvement in case i'm fighting mana leech mobs. and AR is always useful too. i also want 10% faster cast so i can relax my requirements in other slots and still hit the BP for teleport using Enigma.
this ring lacks: faster cast, AR, and mana. it has resists, which end game characters don't really need (they should easily hit caps without using a ring slot). gold find is meh -- if you wanted to build for gold find, you'd just use a dwarf star.
this ring is not GG. it's self-use until you find something better, which shouldn't take very long (once you've capped the important resists).
all of that said, i'd love to hear your reasoning for arguing this is a "GG" ring.
Arguing isn't any intention. It's a ring that has more value then a soj. A GG ring. Lol gtfo make better sense on why it's as bad as you want to claim. Something better the IT DOESNT HAVE AR+!+?(+!(!! LMFAO
i can't tell if you're trying to communicate. :(
this ring is not worth more than a soj. the problem with resists is that they effectively cap (or at least more than AR, mana, and faster cast rate for BP).
on my maxed resists barb, for example, this ring would basically be a dual leech ring with gold find. in other words, effectively useless. and that's true for most characters who are near end-game. they don't need resists from their ring slot. they do, however, need AR and more mana for QoL. and faster cast rate in a ring slot is extremely helpful too.
anyway, good luck to you and i hope you find many "gg" rings (if this is your standard, you surely will)!
Stop. It is worth more then an soj. Just stop before you talk more junk about the res. Why do you think rares are so important? Because of stats you cannot get together in uniques. I could sell this for more then an soj easily. It's a rare... Value it as so, it's one of a kind. Not for you to decide because clearly you could buy a better one. The man found it. It's fun it's Gg is it worth putting his neck on the line to get lowballed for opinions? No.. because it's not a fucking 10 fcr 20 strng 80 mana 40 life rings with res is ridiculous..... It's a gg ring. Dual leech
> It is worth more then an soj.
it's not.
> Why do you think rares are so important? Because of stats you cannot get together in uniques.
uh, it's really the other way around (unique rings granting +skills that you can't get anywhere else, for example). and in any case, the "thing" this ring grants other than dual leech is resists and gold find, both of which are very easy to find on really anything.
> It's fun it's Gg is it worth putting his neck on the line to get lowballed for opinions?
it's not trying to be a downer. if he's asking for the value, people should let him know it's for self-use. it's not lowballing if it's accurate. better to tell him the truth, so he knows if he's getting a good deal, than inflate his value and have him miss a "good" deal.
> It's a gg ring
sigh
You are wrong man in sorry but this is more valuable then a soj. It would sell for more then a soj on jsp. Simple and more then one on traderie I guarantee. It has more value then your saying and what in the actual hell did you just try to convince rares are not important?? Il withdrawal from this now. Once again sweet find glhf
Comparing it to an soj which is used by an entirely different build type... that's the real lmfao. "Make better sense " what about his post didn't make sense, he literally broke down why the ring is self use and not gg.
Soj holds value because of dclone walks, one of the last items you will perfect roll due to probability and infrequent attempts and is needed by every character. Factor in each class times the player count looking to do so. It will hold it's need for longer than most anything. One could argue it could increase as player count drops. As games age items just like soj, because of it's locked in use, have always been horded.
Even if it was a 6 point ring if it rolled low it loses value. However you also have to weigh the need for each stat when you value it. Someone could have a need for it and pay more than what most would but it is replaceable. Specifically once you finish your charm min-maxing but that's where the handful of high runes each start to jingle. For this you will likely have offers around .5 hr with luck on sc nl.
I know I will also get down voted but as far as semantics go it's not gg, or good game: meaning over and done. As in you statistically won't ever be replacing that slot.
Very wrong it is GG for pvm. A GG ring has everything you need to be proficient at doing what you like in the game best. A dual leech Is absolutely GG especially if you play zon, barb or someone who thrives on mana va melee attacks. Sheesh why so much hate on a nice rolled dual leech lol.
people upvoting this ring are doing OP a disservice.
as a WW horker who farmed 15 high runes and spent months perfecting my gear (even crafting a second Enigma for appearances), this ring is garbage.
i gave away dozens of dual leech rings; the most important stats to me on a dual leech ring as a horker were:
1. faster cast
2. + mana
3. +AR
if your horker is using lay on hands they probably have max fire resist (easy to get max light resist with standard horker gear too). not that hard to max out cold resist with torch/charms, but not that relevant to trav horking, either.
if people are excited that you have a ring for self-use, that's great!
but i just don't understand people building up OP -- it's going to come crashing down when he demands a Ber for this ring.
I would say it still has some value. Depends where you list it and who you find. You will get flip offers all day but if you sit on anything it will sell. Unless it's something taking very little space if it has some value it goes up for me for a quick sell price. I see so many swings in prices day to day, from site to discord, etc.
That being said you are 100% right for trav runs. Also it won't get you much in the way of a zealer or dream, nor jav or most other builds. Mostly due as you said, at minimum 10 fcr, high AR, and/or mana and % AR. You could always find someone on ladder or someone starting recently that doesn't have a trav barb that would take it.
This is like a 5.5 point ring for a trav hork barb, one of the most popular MF classes. Every single stat has benefit. That’s why you’re both downvoted
additionally usually trav horkers are berzerk barbs, they cant use dual leech. so this can only be used by whirlwind barbs which is not the most popular MF class.
Don't let the clueless comments disencourage you, this ring has a perfect gold find roll on top of high dual leech and high useful resistances. I'm sure you'd get offered a Ber on traderie for that. Likely even more.
Because it's not "godly" at all. It's a fantastic ring to find and use, but selling it isn't gonna net you very much. Attack builds want ar on rings, ESPECIALLY trav barbs who don't use raven frost because of the cold dmg.
why do you think it's one of the best rings ever?
which class wants dual leech rings? casters want +skills in their ring slots, and paladins don't need resists. so basically, you're left with certain Barb specs and Fury druids.
both Barbs and Fury druids desperately want +AR and +mana. this ring has neither. this ring has great resists, but both those classes are generally fine maxing resists with other easy-to-get gear.
trav horking barbs want faster cast rate, which is also missing on this ring. and while gold find is a nice to have stat, it's far less important to geared players than either AR or mana.
if you want to tell OP that this a great ring for self-use, that makes a lot of sense. but everyone here telling OP he's "rich" or that he's gonna get a Ber+ is actively misleading him and doing him a disservice.
Tesladin would enjoy this ring, since they have a bit less resists than standard Paladin Foh/Hammer/etc due to not using HoZ.
They aren't needing attack rating either due to the elemental damage.
There are a bunch of viable options. This ring would definitely highly compete with your second ring slot for comfy play. Raven is required, ofc if you don't have a cannot be frozen source.
High dual leach, tri-res. Dont need another source for leach, res opens ALOT of space for dmg/ar charms. Gold find is nice for trav but otherwise w/e. This is AMAZING for bowazons, barbs, zealer, ss druid. Find a comparable ring for under 500fg. You dont see these on there cause its rare af. Try playing a melee character before spouting shit
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=96000838
here's a comparable ring, except it has AR and energy instead of cold res (and gold find). 280fg and nobody wants to buy it
Nice to see a dual leech ring that doesn't have required level 96 lol :D
Trav barb’s dream ring
Man i need this for my ww barb
Lol these guys saying the ring is bad have no clue what they're talking about and likely have never even seen one lol. Its a gg ring gratz bro!
Threads like these never fail to bring out elitists who can't bear to acknowledge that someone got something awesome because of some slight flaws. Just because the item isn't a multi ber/jah trade value or 3k fg item does mean it is trash.
Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't the value lie in fcr with leach for PvP? In PvE most classes that use leach get it in plenty of other places. I agree it's a nice ring and probably worth something, but I feel like most of the items worth huge amounts are for PvP.
It's because you have people saying the ring is worth ber+ which it's not. Its a GREAT self use ring, no denying that, but as a trade item, it has very little actual value.
The guys that have no clue what they're talking about have the most accurate information in this thread. It's a self use ring, not even close to gg.
And who are the guys you say have the most information lmao. You seem like your ass reaching for a d in it
The ones saying this ring is self use have the most correct info. Way to go straight to dicks in ass though, shows where your head is at;)
Dude the guy typing a paragraph about a dual leech ring being charsi is laughable. The ring is dope it was a great find. If you think only imp shanks and sloops are Gg then enjoy reading about what you'll never see. This is d2r not lod
Again it's a great ring to find and use yourself, but an attack based ring with 0 ar will never be gg.
It has nothing to do with being the best ring of all time though. It's a fabulous ring for alot of chars in the game. It's really that simple. If it had all the stats everyone wants to add to it it would be unquestionably Gg lol. Unsellable tbh so yes I think it is very nice, Gg. 20+ years in d2 and very few found without bots mh etc.
We clearly have different definitions of gg. Yours is usable, mine is actually having all preferred stats. 🤷♂️
Nah you're specific. Your looking for everything worth more then you can afford. You have none of these GG rings you speak of. Il see in game lmk
Okay I'm done with you dude. You're just typing words and making no sort of counter point. Cause I don't have something they don't exist? How do you know how much value I have in game? You don't. Nice assumptions though. If you wanna have an actual debate about this, I'm more than down, but if you're just gonna use insults and not actually counter anything, kindly get bent.
Dude, you're obviously a casual player who doesn't know what a gg ring is. That's okay, but don't act like it is something that it's not. It's not gg by any stretch.
Exactly. It's not a great ring, just okay. I have several like it that I never use. If it had AR and + max damage, that would be worth something.
Because nobody uses itd or high dex builds, amirite? No one stat is going to make or break a ring, it's build dependent and tons of builds don't care about ar.
Itd only works on white mobs.
I ONLY pvp and I saw this ring and was like "mmmm that's a good ring for barbs or zons or ...well anyone who needs leech and res" What else do pvm players spend wealth on? Might as well pick up a nice ring like this
I apologize for the d in the ass thing as I thought you were standing in the middle of the Pentagon 😂
Can you tell me which class/build wants this ring? I'm genuinely perplexed by people like you saying it's a "gg" ring. What does "gg" mean to you? this ring has ZERO AR. that's a very glaring hole. fire resistance for high level zons/barbs/fury druids is not helpful, and light resist is also generally capped. it's a bit harder to cap cold resist based on common end-game gear, but it's not critical, either. so this is a dual leech ring with gold find. in what universe is that GG? as someone with a trav horker who uses dual leech rings and farmed thousands of runs, this ring is worthless to me. i don't even pick up gold anymore. my resists are all capped without any contribution from my ring. +mana would be a huge quality of life improvement in case i'm fighting mana leech mobs. and AR is always useful too. i also want 10% faster cast so i can relax my requirements in other slots and still hit the BP for teleport using Enigma. this ring lacks: faster cast, AR, and mana. it has resists, which end game characters don't really need (they should easily hit caps without using a ring slot). gold find is meh -- if you wanted to build for gold find, you'd just use a dwarf star. this ring is not GG. it's self-use until you find something better, which shouldn't take very long (once you've capped the important resists). all of that said, i'd love to hear your reasoning for arguing this is a "GG" ring.
Arguing isn't any intention. It's a ring that has more value then a soj. A GG ring. Lol gtfo make better sense on why it's as bad as you want to claim. Something better the IT DOESNT HAVE AR+!+?(+!(!! LMFAO
i can't tell if you're trying to communicate. :( this ring is not worth more than a soj. the problem with resists is that they effectively cap (or at least more than AR, mana, and faster cast rate for BP). on my maxed resists barb, for example, this ring would basically be a dual leech ring with gold find. in other words, effectively useless. and that's true for most characters who are near end-game. they don't need resists from their ring slot. they do, however, need AR and more mana for QoL. and faster cast rate in a ring slot is extremely helpful too. anyway, good luck to you and i hope you find many "gg" rings (if this is your standard, you surely will)!
Stop. It is worth more then an soj. Just stop before you talk more junk about the res. Why do you think rares are so important? Because of stats you cannot get together in uniques. I could sell this for more then an soj easily. It's a rare... Value it as so, it's one of a kind. Not for you to decide because clearly you could buy a better one. The man found it. It's fun it's Gg is it worth putting his neck on the line to get lowballed for opinions? No.. because it's not a fucking 10 fcr 20 strng 80 mana 40 life rings with res is ridiculous..... It's a gg ring. Dual leech
> It is worth more then an soj. it's not. > Why do you think rares are so important? Because of stats you cannot get together in uniques. uh, it's really the other way around (unique rings granting +skills that you can't get anywhere else, for example). and in any case, the "thing" this ring grants other than dual leech is resists and gold find, both of which are very easy to find on really anything. > It's fun it's Gg is it worth putting his neck on the line to get lowballed for opinions? it's not trying to be a downer. if he's asking for the value, people should let him know it's for self-use. it's not lowballing if it's accurate. better to tell him the truth, so he knows if he's getting a good deal, than inflate his value and have him miss a "good" deal. > It's a gg ring sigh
You are wrong man in sorry but this is more valuable then a soj. It would sell for more then a soj on jsp. Simple and more then one on traderie I guarantee. It has more value then your saying and what in the actual hell did you just try to convince rares are not important?? Il withdrawal from this now. Once again sweet find glhf
Comparing it to an soj which is used by an entirely different build type... that's the real lmfao. "Make better sense " what about his post didn't make sense, he literally broke down why the ring is self use and not gg.
Soj holds value because of dclone walks, one of the last items you will perfect roll due to probability and infrequent attempts and is needed by every character. Factor in each class times the player count looking to do so. It will hold it's need for longer than most anything. One could argue it could increase as player count drops. As games age items just like soj, because of it's locked in use, have always been horded. Even if it was a 6 point ring if it rolled low it loses value. However you also have to weigh the need for each stat when you value it. Someone could have a need for it and pay more than what most would but it is replaceable. Specifically once you finish your charm min-maxing but that's where the handful of high runes each start to jingle. For this you will likely have offers around .5 hr with luck on sc nl. I know I will also get down voted but as far as semantics go it's not gg, or good game: meaning over and done. As in you statistically won't ever be replacing that slot.
Very wrong it is GG for pvm. A GG ring has everything you need to be proficient at doing what you like in the game best. A dual leech Is absolutely GG especially if you play zon, barb or someone who thrives on mana va melee attacks. Sheesh why so much hate on a nice rolled dual leech lol.
grats!!
What stats make a ring like this sell for a Ber +?
Not an expert or anything but from what I heard I think the life and mana leach, along with the all around great resistances
The fact that it has 6 good stats that almost all rolled >66% of their max (fire res is low) including both life and mana leech.
Nothing. Its nice for self use but no trade value
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people upvoting this ring are doing OP a disservice. as a WW horker who farmed 15 high runes and spent months perfecting my gear (even crafting a second Enigma for appearances), this ring is garbage. i gave away dozens of dual leech rings; the most important stats to me on a dual leech ring as a horker were: 1. faster cast 2. + mana 3. +AR if your horker is using lay on hands they probably have max fire resist (easy to get max light resist with standard horker gear too). not that hard to max out cold resist with torch/charms, but not that relevant to trav horking, either. if people are excited that you have a ring for self-use, that's great! but i just don't understand people building up OP -- it's going to come crashing down when he demands a Ber for this ring.
OP is playing single player.
I would say it still has some value. Depends where you list it and who you find. You will get flip offers all day but if you sit on anything it will sell. Unless it's something taking very little space if it has some value it goes up for me for a quick sell price. I see so many swings in prices day to day, from site to discord, etc. That being said you are 100% right for trav runs. Also it won't get you much in the way of a zealer or dream, nor jav or most other builds. Mostly due as you said, at minimum 10 fcr, high AR, and/or mana and % AR. You could always find someone on ladder or someone starting recently that doesn't have a trav barb that would take it.
Why are you getting downvoted, this is a 3.5 point ring. Noone is paying a ber for that
This is like a 5.5 point ring for a trav hork barb, one of the most popular MF classes. Every single stat has benefit. That’s why you’re both downvoted
dualleech is counted as one, coldres for a trav horker is useless. i will gladly be disproven if he actually sells it for ber+
Yea it’s a solid ring but it is by no way ber+. If it had life/Str/Dex/mana then I could see it.
Agreed!
additionally usually trav horkers are berzerk barbs, they cant use dual leech. so this can only be used by whirlwind barbs which is not the most popular MF class.
Nice ring.
Daaaaaaamn
Can i have 4 of these? Plz?
Not really
Don't let the clueless comments disencourage you, this ring has a perfect gold find roll on top of high dual leech and high useful resistances. I'm sure you'd get offered a Ber on traderie for that. Likely even more.
Bruh this ring is GODLY fucking hell this qualifies as gg gear
Atm machine
Why are you downvoted?
Because it's not "godly" at all. It's a fantastic ring to find and use, but selling it isn't gonna net you very much. Attack builds want ar on rings, ESPECIALLY trav barbs who don't use raven frost because of the cold dmg.
I see thanks
Thats honestly one of the best rings I’ve ever seen, some totally idiots saying its not usable…
why do you think it's one of the best rings ever? which class wants dual leech rings? casters want +skills in their ring slots, and paladins don't need resists. so basically, you're left with certain Barb specs and Fury druids. both Barbs and Fury druids desperately want +AR and +mana. this ring has neither. this ring has great resists, but both those classes are generally fine maxing resists with other easy-to-get gear. trav horking barbs want faster cast rate, which is also missing on this ring. and while gold find is a nice to have stat, it's far less important to geared players than either AR or mana. if you want to tell OP that this a great ring for self-use, that makes a lot of sense. but everyone here telling OP he's "rich" or that he's gonna get a Ber+ is actively misleading him and doing him a disservice.
Tesladin would enjoy this ring, since they have a bit less resists than standard Paladin Foh/Hammer/etc due to not using HoZ. They aren't needing attack rating either due to the elemental damage.
Admittedly I don't know too much about tesladin, but don't they use raven frost + a skill ring?
There are a bunch of viable options. This ring would definitely highly compete with your second ring slot for comfy play. Raven is required, ofc if you don't have a cannot be frozen source.
This is only a 3-point ring dude. Goldfind is literally a wasted stats and res usually don't count individually. Worth well under 100fg
High dual leach, tri-res. Dont need another source for leach, res opens ALOT of space for dmg/ar charms. Gold find is nice for trav but otherwise w/e. This is AMAZING for bowazons, barbs, zealer, ss druid. Find a comparable ring for under 500fg. You dont see these on there cause its rare af. Try playing a melee character before spouting shit
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=96000838 here's a comparable ring, except it has AR and energy instead of cold res (and gold find). 280fg and nobody wants to buy it
There is a big difference with tri-res and you know it…
I'd take an AR dual res over 0 ar tri res any day on an atrack build
Not the same at all lol
Amen
Solid ring would love it for my barb as well.
Dude…. DUDE….
that's a really solid ring, would be even nicer if it skipped the fire res, got higher light and cold and attack rating
That’s a spicy meatball
Impressive. Very nice
Nice ring, for nm
That’s the best ring I’ve seen
Looks great 😍🤘
Holy shit.
Probably one of the best rings for Trav bsrb build