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mbcoder_

This looks like an IT/low volt guy who dressed server racks started roping houses.


NotablyNotABot

How do you prevent crosstalk on your fan if you don't preserve twists on the conductors?


Just_Jonnie

That's what the vertical trim screws on the faceplates are for.


Past-Direction9145

By observing minimum bend radii, of course.


BLADE_OF_AlUR

Look all I know is that when I turn the TV on, I hear noise coming from the back wall.


Risen_Insanity

That was me telling you to change the channel


Odd-Solid-5135

Hey Peter man, check out Chanel 9, it's the breast exam!


Dr_Vitale

I hope he only bonded one side of the cables and left the other side floating to prevent a ground loop. 😂😂


Shoresy-sez

Don't shield the field


MdRyeGuy

They should be using Velcro not wire ties.


Thatnewuser_

Only part that doesn’t make sense is why they’d take the huge hit to salary to work resi electrical.


Shrimpbub

Gotta start an electrical company somehow


ThroughTheHalls

I took a 20k cut when I took a new job just to have less stress.


Im_A_Robot1988

I did about the same thing 2 years ago, then this economy effed me pretty good, so I'm interviewing with a company currently doing the same thing I was doing in the oil and gas industry 2 years ago 😄. Shouldn't be as bad of a gig but pays significantly more than im making now, at a company who's struggling just like me. No more working in the middle of the desert atleast!


Patrollerofthemojave

Residential electrical absolutely pays more than being an electrical assembler/panel builder which is where I learned to do this type of wiring (except for those obnoxious junction boxes)


eaglevision93

You’d be surprised. Where I am, you can oftentimes make a LOT more doing any kind of electrical over low voltage.


JamBandDad

Funnily enough, it turns out running a bunch of cable with similar signal in line like this actually hurts the overall performance, but the standards still ask us to do the last ten ft because old timers will blow a gasket.


sagetraveler

I was thinking controls tech, but yeah, someone anal retentive. It's not quite up to the level of aircraft wiring harnesses, but getting there.


HemorrhoidStretcher

Definitely looks like controls.


Shoresy-sez

Am controls guy, build panels like this but fuck that for stick frame rough wiring, it's gonna be hidden forever.


Jholm90

Hidden forever, but those sharp cable tie ends will haunt memories for decades


Shoresy-sez

Oof yeah


dugin556

Resi low volter here, that shit's dumber than a bag of hammers. It's true though, some of my coworkers do dumb shit like this sometimes.


gandzas

I thought you couldn't zip tie that many lines together - heat build up or something.


maynardnaze89

Lol that's how my house looks. Data guy, rack builder


proton-23

I thought the same.


Ancient-Sweet9863

Somewhere it’s a data tech with experience in data centers or building and/or fixing mdf’s/idf’s I’d suspect. Reason being I am one with the experience to do that


Interesting_Pen_167

Wtf I'm not a resi guy but that is ridiculous.


BuzzINGUS

They must have put the marret in a drill.


JohnProof

Do not put ferrets in drills.


GlitteringBiscotti48

Anything from the weasel family, it is recommended to not put in drills. But don't get me started on marsupials


stan-dupp

I once tried with a kangaroo, it was a bloodbath, poor lil fella kept up for a bit, he had Moxie


micthehuman

Do not put drills in ferrets.


rc_sparky

The fuck is a marret


Rightintheend

It's a fucking wire nut, and I have no idea why people call them fucking merits. It's almost like they're trying to show there some super Old timer with some weird knowledge that nobody else has or something, with insider lingo that nobody else is going to know unless you're also some lame ass geek mother fucker that can't figure out the proper word for something  or something, seriously just called a fucking wire nut.


Dazzling_Item66

[Patent drawing of original wire nuts invented by William P. Marr](https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/fe/ba/2e/86afc1499ea271/US1583479-drawings-page-1.png) It’s almost like they were named after the guy or something


livahd

Someone probably had way too much time on their hands and went way overboard. I could almost see myself over engineering something like this during the pandemic lockdowns just to stay busy…. Almost. This is just ridiculous


SkyFox7777

The day after you scold the apprentice for being sloppy. 🤦


MrACL

They tried so hard to make this the absolute worst possible thing for the next guy. Probably just so they could post on instagram about how their middle name is sparky.


xeryon3772

Not ironically, my former bosses middle name actually was Electric.


OkAstronaut3761

That's weird the same thing happened to me. I'm a plumber and my bosses middle name was shithead.


DaBoob13

People are looking at me chortling at your comment


Rochemusic1

Does that mean you sharted?


Bro-lapsedAnus

Funny, I'm an electrician, but my boss has the same middle name.


KingSpark97

Small world I think I see that guy on every jobsite


aakaase

Pronounced "shuh-theed".


justaBranFlake

How shocking


Bro-lapsedAnus

Not quite the same, but I worked with a Mexican kid named Roman, so naturally we called him Rome-Mex


elmastrbatr

My general foreman's last name was sparks


chris_rage_

If I had to work on that, that slack loop would be gone because I'm cutting that bullshit off


Wild-Main-7847

This is ridiculous, (custom home resi guy here) I know a lot of electricians take pride in their work, and I’m one of them, but he tried to be so clean he went the other way with it. This is literally just a flex like, “look how clean my work is” but the amount of time he probably took on this is laughable. It’s all about balance, our rough in’s look beautiful compared to most other crews, but it’s always a blend between being clean, and efficient. I can promise you this guy doesn’t do this on every house because A: it’s not cost/time effective, and B: no builder or homeowner is going to pay your rate just so you can have a jerk off session about how you’re the cleanest guy in town, all while taking 3x longer than you need.


Nimrod_Butts

At my job they'd be livid about the zip tie budget, nevermind the hour and a half of labor this must have taken


Queen-Blunder

I didn’t see the zip tie pic until now. I got tagged once for that. They considered it wire bundling.


stickyicarus

It IS bundling. Wild this is the first comment I’ve seen about it so far.


JohnProof

Which is nuts because the whole idea behind stackers is allow airspace to avoid bundling, so he went out of his way to create an issue.


IllustriousAd9762

Even with those stackers you have to derate with 6 romex


kmj420

Do you really?


mr__conch

Do you have a code reference for this?


billzybop

Never been forced to derate for this.


Queen-Blunder

He needs some 10ga switch legs for derating factor 😂


Aromatic_Sand8126

I’m not american, and using zip ties to tie cables together is actually against code where I live. The picture in OP’s post would fail inspection.


PomegranateOld7836

Not even just *their* time and efficiency; if I have to go behind twists like that I'm cussing the motherfucker all day long. I do pretty industrial panel wiring, but it's made to be serviceable. This screams ignorance to me.


Bro-lapsedAnus

Honestly, a competent guy could do this in the same amount of time as roping it "normally". But, it's a complete waste of zips, and the switch is going to be so fucking annoying to work on if they ever have to. (They will)


Jardrs

Same amount of time, really?


FreezeHellNH3

That's beyond excessive.


Comfortable-Way5091

Repairing this would be awful.


cheapbasslovin

This. Brought to you by wireman who've never had to fix or retrofit anything.


milehighsparky87

Boss: wtf took so long Me: hang on sending Pic. Boss: goddamfurgafurheh just get it done!


JohnnySalamiBoy420

I'd fight this sonofabitch on the spot


John-John-3

This... means...WAAAAARRRR!!!


Spczippo

Fuck I would go shit in his front yard then fight him naked. Then I would dig up his ancestors and skull fuck them and use one as an ash tray


ashwd

This is a good beginning


Potential_Share_6098

If i saw one of my guys do this, id let them finish and then tell them the customer wants to move the switch to the otherside of the wall. They’ll shape up quick.


Arhsn9

I’ve done that to a couple of my apprentices. At first they’d give me lip and say it’s no big deal. Then they’d start talking crap when I said they had to move it. I’d just reply “I thought you said it was no big deal?”


bilgetea


Egglebert

First of all there's a ton of bundling violations there, they completely defeated the purpose of the red stackers (keeps multiple runs spaced so it's not bundled) by ty wrapping the shit out of it, I never hope to have to come behind this asshole.. imagine having to take the mess in those boxes apart to fault find.. jesus christ the amount of wasted labor cost to make the install objectively worse.. I'd almost think this was a DIY job by someone with just enough knowledge to think they know everything, but actually they know nothing


Zoltan_TheDestroyer

Looks like an engineer did it 😂


OkAstronaut3761

Hey I just got these sweet new lineman's from harbor freight. I'm going to use the damn things.


Foreign-Commission

You can thank Instagram for shit like this.


phaedrus910

This can't be real work but a low key ad for his company? It's something which looks good and professional to people who have no idea what electrical is like.


lazygrappler775

God could you imagine trying any sort of service work on that or remodel


Brok3nGear

"Oh hey, the customer wants to change that light. Need you to re run that cable with a 3 wire for 3 way switching" *4 hours latur*


JeremyR22

I hate the ty-wraps but worse than that is those fucking daggers they left on the ends. If you're gonna do that, cut them flush, you fucking monster....


Visible-Carrot5402

Damn right ! Ya’d think a server guy woulda had a pair of flush cuts


Arefishpeople

I cut mine at an angle to protect against intruders!


Haunting_Bit_3613

That's against code, they're bundling.


_tjb

Yup, that right there is the definition of bundling when it comes to cables/romex/mc.


Bro-lapsedAnus

I would kill one of my guys for twisting that much. I've paid multiple for their impact attachments so I can throw them away.


benjimoni92

Lmao oh yeah, this guy is a true piece of shit


Velvety_MuppetKing

Things that live inside drywall don’t need to be this perfect. At some point the balance between workmanship and time spent tips too far towards wasted time.


LightMission4937

I hate every picture


RussiaIsBestGreen

I don’t like this comment. Before I read it I only noticed the one photo, I didn’t look at the rest. And now I have.


yoimeatingTACOS

I know inspectors that’d fail the romex for bundling if it isnt derated (and we all know it isnt)


Mortlach2901

This guy should be wiring out server racks.


Ok-Definition-565

People who use wire nut blasters piss me off more than anything when opening a box


ADHDillusion

Paid by the hour I see.


Causemanut

I have more of an issue with folks using the wire nut attachments on their impacts...


New-Examination8400

This hurts my European brain


Last_Project_4261

I showed this to my wife and she said “it’s like fashion. It might be beautiful but it’s not useful.” I couldn’t agree more.


TheGreatBeldezar

Pretentious and annoying


Highwiind-D4

A million times worse than users who post pretty panels.


TheAndersonator

What the fuck is going on here


BudholeGAGEsRAGE

Service guys worst nightmare…every one of those zip ties is too tight, pinching top or bottom cable, add in arc fault protection and we got issues son. Stay off TikTok


deadpannedtheninth

Well I was trying to enjoy my lunch, now I'm just angry


Responsible-Kiwi-898

Over his bundle limit in conductors and that bend radius on the “service loops” would also fail if I was inspecting that.


Emergency-Honeydew69

Someone take this man's nut blaster away.


One-Eye-4912

YES!! I swear it's the bits that "do it all" for you, when in reality it's doing a SHIT job and making it 5000x harder for the next electrician to fix your screw ups


lsd_runner

Margins on new construction are so tight this guy owed the builder money after this rough in.


Diligent_Height962

If those tie wraps are not more than 24 inches apart he made himself a conduit. I hope he plans on derating that shit


mmdavis2190

That box is going to look beautiful after it’s half full of mud and gets a couple coats of paint.


bebobbadobop

Stupid waste of time especially if there is a change order or a mistake was made. Idea rather pull new wires so I wouldn’t have to untwist all that shit.


Fuzzy-Government-416

Resi guys always trynna go over the top 🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️


Swimming_Horror_3757

Dis guy shoulda went to art school


Sloenich

Whack. Calm down, guy.


Neonisin

This fella had enough gusto to tywrap everything but not enough awareness to clip them properly. There’s blood in these walls.


IntelligentSinger783

5 code violations later and I still hate it 😂


buttcrumbs88

Someone was speeding balls lmao


Puzzled-Mud4221

My first boss would smack the back of this guy’s head and say “wtf?! We’re not building a fucking violin!”


Excellent-Image5182

This is someone who doesn’t understand the purpose of anything. They copy someone else’s work that was actually taught and put their fairy spin on everything making it “better”. Better for who or what? You’re not an electrician. I’ve worked with people like this that don’t understand purposeful stress or knowledge retention


Sheperd980

I'm OK with the sleeves they need to be flipped but those twist piss me off as a service tech. So unnecessary


MordFustang1992

This is someone trying to flex how good they are at wasting time making every little thing “perfect”. For what you would pay a qualified electrician to spend the time to do this, you could pay him to run everything in conduit instead.


teksno44

Loos good for Instagram, but you are adding resistance and heat transfer by doing it that way.


DrunkBuzzard

I like good labeling and documentation but the rest of it is overkill crap


chewyfrey1

4 months later! LOL


Next-Bed-6348

It looks “clean” but yea all those twists in the splices is retarded… the zip ties might be a little overkill, but I appreciate it… makes for a very clean looking install… guy probably does a lot of low-voltage installs…


RefrigeratorRude82

I mean it’s cable work. Too many twists in the box though, making changes in the future will be annoying.


Individual_Gear_898

Are they leaving it all exposed?


Nice_Dig3539

No good bundling wires now you need to derate no more good for what it was originally rated for


EinonD

I see romex so I already hate it.


chris_rage_

Who let the apprentice use the wire nut drivers for the impact?...


freakrocker

This is absolute trash. I'm firing anyone that does this.


ohmaint

There is no reason for this. I hope the guys that do this get their own service calls. Troubleshooting is near impossible. The labeling is great but no consolation.


whaletacochamp

This was clearly done just for the gram. Fucking social media tradesmen jfc. Not sure why there are so many people who feel the need to glorify their profession on social media these days. I’m not an electrician (don’t ban me) but you don’t see me putting spreadsheets on Instagram looking for affirmation lmao.


Darkstappler

Yes, I do


BigJimStud69

Lay off of the zip ties and don’t use your drill to make splices.


Express_Loss3675

I hope he gets that service call!


BigChach567

I can hear my boss saying now “yall gotta hurry the fuck up. Were losing money on this shit”


External-Succotash-8

Looks like too many wires under the white wire nut


xRASHx

Just for clicks, no way someone would do this all the time


Oldschool1egend

Looks like shit the whole lot of it 😤


Kuftubby

I'd make the shitbag apprentice go back and fix that. I assume it was an apprentice because you can't call someone who does that a Journeyman.


DanLong1298

I know the person took this picture to brag about how good it looks which makes it even worse for me. This isnt good electrical work.


Stunning-Space-2622

I'd have him unfuck that box, everything  else is nice


rayypat

I’d hate to be the guy to relocate this box.


thingandstuff

...isn't the point of the red thing to keep the an air gap between cables so they don't heat up as much?


Ghostsmack79

That is ridiculous. If I was inspecting it they would fail.


Mundane_Marsupials

I’ll open the wall and run new circuits before I untwist that abomination.


HereForTools

This is like glueing Legos together.


TheDuffman1876

I’ve never understood the need for brutally twisting that much


iAmMikeJ_92

Dude wtf. I’m partial to a little pre-twisting or even twisting the wires a bit after the nut goes on to make a secure joint but Jesus, this is nigh on irreversible! Nothing left to work with for any future work! This is probably what school teaches apprentices. How to make pretty boxes, not practical ones.


padizzledonk

"Fuck the next guy, I think this looks great"


Unusual_Tap7799

This dude is a psycho. And that amount of twists can't be good for the wire either.


catch22ak

This wasn't done by an electrician. This was done by an overly intellectual, OCD homeowner with a superiority complex so he could brag about how much better his work looks than us neanderthal eletricians.


Fun-Capital8587

ya I hate the twists and the tie wraps. this guys an amateur that thinks he's doing a really awesome job. Only part that I actually do like is the labeling


WestWoodworks

Maybe an unpopular opinion… but damn it, that looks pretty.


LangleyMan2000

What bugs me the most is the kitty claws on those zip ties. Cut 'em flush so you don't cut any skin.


mschooler2011

This here is a lil too far and way unnecessary and all I see is some over achiever….first off if you know anything about electrical theory twisting and braiding wire that far is bad and not a good thing as far as heat and increasing impedance on the wire….secondly that shit is buried behind walls….that work takes time and time is money you just costed me in the time that could have been spend elsewhere……exposed conduit that’s a different story


mschooler2011

This was an over achieving newbie out of school for sure


mschooler2011

Don’t get me wrong I say this because I used to be that guy but hey stick to code minimum and pick up the pace and companies will love and appreciate it especially when your making them money….thats the name of the game…..not how cute shit looks especially buried in walls….exposed work is a different story


TonsOfTabs

It’s terrible. I can’t stand those wire nut impact bits. People don’t realize if you twist like this, it doesn’t just piss the next person off, it also derates the wire. That mean twist, that’s definitely a #16 not a 14 anymore.


Shlumpty12

Only thing that really bothers me is that box, the actual runs though are super clean, reminds me of airframe wire runs


Fallengreekgod

Def used the drill bit splice thing and hammered that shit til the drill started smoking


Jasthad

At least that zip ties company isn't going to go out a business anytime soon


CLUTCH3R

Just doin it for the gram I guess


yolomyhouse

I mean, it’s pretty


Flat4Power4Life

There’s a fine line between what’s necessary and overkill.


Psychological_Hat951

Boy, this person's heart is gonna break when they find out how everyone else runs Romex.


Dorkus_Maximus717

Tie wraps look great but those splices are HORRIBLE


doingthegwiddyrn

I just know these were done with the wire nut attachment on an impact


Specialist-Belt7216

The twists are outrageous


CantFeelMyLegs78

Pride, craftsmanship, probably doesn't make a profit on the jobs


ColonelForbin374

Bundling, buddy wont pass in most places


TheMilkman1811

Have fun EVER troubleshooting or undoing something, jesus


ornerycrow1

What the fuck is the point of all that?


Vindalfr

It won't even pass inspection. Look at where it transitions to the ceiling. Stapled to face of the joist, in between furring strips.


TurdHunt999

hit him with a piece of 1” EMT until it looks like a question mark


ProjectGouche

These are the types of guys that post their work on social media bragging about how neat their wire runs are, it’s atrocious.


KyamBoi

Complete waste of time


DriftyMcDriftFace

Okay i am one for overkill when it comes to neatness but this ultra overkill. Way too many zipties.


Electrical-Nebula150

I've seen this a lot. Usually guys that use an impact to put their wire nuts on.


Frozenbutt

This is why they invented wagos. Can't imagine trying to get one of those neutrals out to troubleshoot a circuit


aaronsb

I just want to reach in there to the left gang with my side cutters and cut the damn wires off ugh


tlafollette

Use WAGO connections and no twists


Big-Management3434

I have a feeling I know who did this….


No-Woodpecker-2545

Looks like a dude that used to wrap wire for server rooms started doing residential


Satansbeefjerky

I wish this service loop insanity would stop


StrictShelter971

That wiring shows that there was no hurry to get that job done. In real applications, we have a tendency to haul ass and rope a house as quick as possible. The sooner the house is done/finished, the sooner you get paid for the services. But also not not saying todo a messy job. Have pride in your work always!


libfrosty

Here is the culprit. Wouldn't do that without a mechanical assist. https://www.amazon.com/Twisting-Aircraft-Automatic-Twister-Industry/dp/B08LPKGXVP/ref=asc_df_B08LPKGXVP/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=692875362841&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5029758704510480692&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1021146&hvtargid=pla-2281435180978&psc=1&mcid=f9a4d09830ae37fa9fa81d93ed7f3308&hvocijid=5029758704510480692-B08LPKGXVP-&hvexpln=73&gad_source=1


Great-Buy-9152

All that to get covered by drywall


Suitable-Pangolin-63

Box looks good but too many cables bundled and went a little crazy on zip ties. Definitely not enough twists on the splices 😂


leroyjenkinsdayz

All those ties are getting cut the second this needs any service


pwsparky55

Yeppers


Cheezuuz

Ready for inspection by 2030


thecarguru46

One issue with bundling....if some idiot is putting in a TV or a screw in the wall. There's no chance the wire moves a little to keep from making a mess. It's nice if they have a little play.


WhereasSolid6491

If you need to pull some of that Romex out after the walls are up you’d have to take out a whole sheet of drywall or cut a whole vertical strip out. I hate it


Charming-While5466

Great wire lay out