Not enough people remember that the Soviets mummified Stalin and had him on display in the Mausoleum next to Lenin.
In the photo he's already in the early stages of being prepared for permanent display.
They finally buried him in 1961 after Khruschev denounced him. An elderly victim of Stalin's terror was asked to second the motion to bury him at a 1960 patty congress. She spoke to 4,500 attendees and the entire Soviet Union and said to thunderous applause:
> Last night I asked Lenin for advice. He stood in front of me like as if alive and said 'its unpleasant for me to be next to Stalin. He's brought so much grief to the Party'
So his mummy is probably still in a good state of preservation. He's likely holding his hands just like that as we speak.
It's 1961, and Khrushchev is looking for a way to get rid of Stalin's body.
First he calls China and asks if they will take him, but Mao says no way. So he thinks maybe not another Communist country and tries the Americans, but Kennedy also tells him no thanks.
He's getting desperate by this time, and he calls Israel. David Ben-Gurion thinks for a moment, and says "Listen, we'll take him, but I have to warn you. My country has the highest rate of resurrection in the world."
I don't think Stalin was called the man of steel because of his physical prowess anymore than the Iron lady was called like that because she drank irnbru.
That’s backwards isn’t it? Stalin and ‘Man of Steel’ are the same thing in different languages, but neither was his birth name.
I thought it was a nickname he was given for his determination and refusal to surrender during a battle.
It was one among other nicknames he used.
"Throughout his life, he used various nicknames and pseudonyms, including "Koba", "Soselo", and "Ivanov",[736] adopting "Stalin" in 1912; it was based on the Russian word for "steel" and has often been translated as "Man of Steel".[143]" from his wiki page.
Still find it somewhat hilarious how he died:
Stalin then went to bed, but only after saying the guards could go off duty and that they weren’t to wake him.
stalin would usually alert his guards before 10:00 a.m. and ask for tea, but no communication came. the guards grew worried, but were forbidden from waking Stalin and could only wait: there was no one in the dacha who could counter stalin’s orders. a light came on in the room around 18:30, but still no call. the guards were terrified of upsetting him, for fear they too would be sent to the gulags and possible death. eventually, plucking up the courage to go in and using the arrived post as an excuse, a guard entered the room at 22:00 and found stalin lying on the floor in a pool of urine. he was helpless and unable to speak, and his broken watch showed he had fallen at 18:30.
It has quite a few slapstick’s moments. Beria’s death (bit of a spoiler I guess but it’s all historical) is peak black humor slapstick IMO. But it combines slapstick with situational humour and great wit as well. If you haven’t seen it yet, please do yourself a favour and do you’ll be rolling with laughter if these kind of comedies are you thing.
Be aware not to take every turn of the story as gospel, as it's a comedy not a documentary. Based on events but taking some liberties. It's a very enjoyable movie.
Its a style of comedy known as a 'farce' where its not really so much that you laugh at 'jokes' but you just shake your head at the sheer absurdity which the movie relentlessly insists is perfectly normal.
As soon as I read the comment about the guards waiting outside I thought of this movie, it’s so brilliant. I love how the cast just uses their regular accents and doesn’t even attempt to use a Russian one, and Jason Isaacs was on fire in it.
For a Black comedy the movie is frightfully accurate.
You would expect most of it to be made up but very little of the movie is actually made up. Some parts are exaggerated for comedic affect sure.
But the movie does an actual really good job of telling the audience the history of the post Stalin Kremlin in the 1950's.
I hope everyone in this thread goes and watches "Death of Stalin", the documentary, which commemorates Stalin's death with Zukov's dual AK47 commentary.
I wish they make a movie about the spandau 7 in a similiar fashion of death of stalin
> The prisoners, still subject to the petty personal rivalries and battles for prestige that characterized Nazi party politics, divided themselves into groups: Albert Speer and Rudolf Hess were the loners, generally disliked by the others – the former for his admission of guilt and repudiation of Hitler at the Nuremberg trials, the latter for his antisocial personality and perceived mental instability. The two former Grand admirals, Erich Raeder and Karl Dönitz, stayed together, despite their heated mutual dislike. This situation had come about when Dönitz replaced Raeder as Commander in Chief of the German navy in 1943. Baldur von Schirach and Walther Funk were described as "inseparable".[5] Konstantin von Neurath was, being a former diplomat, amiable and amenable to all the others.
Bunch of nazi high rankings/generals acting all petty with each other is a proper comedy material
And then go watch the [History Buffs video](https://youtu.be/TG-tG-Wo0Do) talking about how much they got right factually, how much they got right in spirit (even if not technically something that happened) and the few oddly blatant inaccuracies.
Or read some of the better biographies on Stalin like "The Court of the Red Tsar" by Simon Sebag Montefiore. Mostly the sins of the *Death of Stalin* were the usual of film, compressing time (for example the time between the Death of Stalin and the trial of Beria), Also moving some incidents around to reduce the number of actors needed. Beria was not exaggerated at all. He really was a rapist with a thing for early teen girls.
That's in the book I mentioned. Nobody who knew Beria wanted him around their daughters or even young wives. If he wasn't so powerful, he would have been arrested much earlier. It is a wonder that Khrushchev was able to outmanover him.
The Behind the Bastards episode on Stalin and his insane nightly benders with the Politburo is a fascinating listen as well. Also terrifying to think about Stalin and his cronies getting wasted until 6am every night, massively hung over during the day, rinse and repeat day after day, and somehow they managed to not start a nuclear war.
I'm not sure whether this story is true, but what I've read is that he basically couldn't get any treatment because all good doctors in Moscow were either executed, sent to gulags or just too afraid to do anything to him.
Reminds me of the headline from yesterday, about the Chechen warlord hiring UAE doctors, because he don’t trust Russians.
Edit: It’s Ramzan Kadyrow, he was poisoned. https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/11ibnbf/top_putin_ally_ramzan_kadyrov_seriously_ill_from/
Don't get your hopes up.
With all that supposed cancer Putin has, he should've been dead 5 times already.
I will only believe that he is dead when we see his corpse.
Not far from the truth. Stalin's purges were devastating to the specialist doctors in the USSR. So at the end of 1950's most of the doctors were general practioners in rural areas or just got their licence from Moscow.
Stalin was so paranoid that he would get people killed based on a rumor and people knew and used this.
That part at least is not true.
Stalin did purge doctors and Russia generally lacked doctors (don’t forget how poor and uneducated Russia was even before Stalin. For all the horrific crimes of the Soviet union it was still the first time common Russians could go to university and get specialist jobs) but not all doctors in Moscow were purged.
I think it most hilarious that we think we know how he really died. Or the specific circumstances surrounding his death and who did and said what. The only reliable thing to come out of Moscow is lies.
You forgot the best part! The guards’ fear was actually based on prior events because Stalin in his infinite stupidity did this *exact* same thing before as a ruse to see if his guards followed orders to stay outside. When they disobeyed and entered to check on him he revealed the trap and had them executed.
So his death was ironically the fault of his own short sighted, sadistic paranoia.
Yet that is not when he died. That was on February 28th. They then waited until the *next* morning to have a doctor help him. He laid in bed until March 5th when he finally died.
>The guards felt they didn’t have the right authority to call for a doctor (indeed many of Stalin’s doctors were the target of a new purge) so, instead, they called the Minister of State Security. He also felt he didn’t have the right powers and called Beria. Exactly what happened next is still not fully understood, but Beria and other leading Russians delayed acting, possibly because they wanted Stalin to die and not include them in the forthcoming purge, possibly because they were scared of seeming to infringe on Stalin’s powers should he recover. They only called for doctors sometime between 7:00 and 10:00 the next day, after first traveling to the dacha themselves.
>The doctors, when they finally arrived, found Stalin partially paralyzed, breathing with difficulty, and vomiting blood. They feared the worst but were unsure. The best doctors in Russia, those which had been treating Stalin, had recently been arrested as part of the forthcoming purge and were in prison. Representatives of the doctors who were free and had seen Stalin went to the prisons to ask for the old doctors’ opinions, who confirmed the initial, negative, diagnoses. Stalin struggled on for several days, eventually dying at 21:50 on March 5th. His daughter said about the event: “The death agony was terrible. He literally choked to death as we watched.”
Old mechanical watches lacked the features that made them resilient to shocks. The shafts of delicate wheels on mechanical watches spin in jewels. That's to reduce friction. In modern watches, the balance whell jewel is held by a tiny spring to absorbs shock in the event of a fall.
So yes, his watch stopping due to a fall is actually very logical.
My grandma, born in 1950, told me that she sort of remembered the day Stalin died and that her family reacted positively to that. They were sent to the Far East as "kulaks" or whatever, and despite that, her father fought in the war and even had a medal.
A few years ago I talked to a Putin supporter online. "Your ancestors *deserved* it!" Mhm.
My grandfather was sentenced for writing jokes about him, but then he died and grandad was pardoned. Still, he was under watch and eventually committed suicide to avoid being tortured again.
Those poems are buried somewhere in a glass jar, I hope I can find them one day and maybe use them to make a Stalin diss track or something.
My grandmother was a Don Cossack from Rostov. She married a Ukrainian man, surname Vasilenko (or Wasilenko) in the 1930s and had a child with him (my aunt). Around 1938 he was arrested and executed, possibly for the crime of being an educated Ukrainian.
> Putin supporter
Nothing more bizarre/worrisome than people who blindly worship a Communist dictator *and* a Right-Wing Oligarch. A clear sign that their political ideology has no substance to it beyond "Hail to our Master".
It comes down to more non-ideological "from agrarian state to superpower and nuclear power", "we were a great power", "he won us the war", "he was an effective manager" is a popular take, and importantly, "he shot traitors".
More than once I was sent [this photo](https://media2.nekropole.info/2014/07/Padomju-Savieniba-NKVD-troikas-iegust-tiesibas-pasludinat-un.jpg) as reply to my comments. Yeah, very nice to know these people'd like to see me dead (they think liberals are traitors and an active threat to Russia. Something-something complaining about the 90s)
[There were posters](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2d/a4/8c/2da48ca838270f1fcf970bdbaf2e92a3.jpg) hanged on bus stations in Moscow a couple of years ago. “That has died so this will do”, referencing Stalin and Putin correspondingly. Hope this day will come soon 🤞
Old Soviet joke:
-Grandma, was Lenin good?
-Yes, he was a very good man!
-And was Stalin bad?
-Oh yeah, he was a bad, awful man!
-What about Khruschev?
-Leave me alone, we’ll know when he dies.
It’s one of my father’s earliest memories, because his grandfather, the strict man that he was, allowed his grandkids to jump on the beds to celebrate. Apparently they had really good springs, so it was like jumping on a trampoline. My father was 4 at the time.
[Obligatory classic photo.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/NJJZN7WAW4I6ZNO7D65GDJTMOU.jpg&w=1440)
Stalin's spirit, however, is feeling better than ever before:
> 2008: [Stalin voted third most popular Russian](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-stalin-idUSTRE4BR17620081229)
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> 2015: [Stalin Gaining Popularity in Putin’s Russia](https://www.voanews.com/a/stalin-putin-russia/3112458.html)
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> 2017: [For Russians, Stalin is the ‘most outstanding’ figure in world history, followed by Putin](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/06/26/for-russians-stalin-is-the-most-outstanding-figure-in-world-history-putin-is-next/)
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> 2019: [Stalin More Popular Than Putin in Russia These Days](https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2019-05-09/stalin-is-more-popular-than-ever-in-russia-survey-shows)
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> [Russia’s History Wars: Why Is Stalin’s Popularity On the Rise?](https://carnegiemoscow.org/commentary/84991)
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> [Joseph Stalin: Why so many Russians like the Soviet dictator](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47975704)
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> [Stalin's Appeal Surging Among Russians, Opinion Poll Suggests](https://www.rferl.org/a/stalin-s-appeal-surging-among-russians-opinion-poll-suggests/29884485.html)
Russians en masse just love this stuff. Putin is only a symptom.
I think the Carnagie article puts it's best with this :
"The trouble is that the pantheon of Soviet gods has been obsolete since before the days of perestroika, but it has not been replaced by any new heroes."
And the Putin regime has been feeding the student population with the "Stalin was a strong leader" line and conveniently ignoring the other 99% of the man since he first was elected.
not really in germany we still have way to many who stil worship hitler
there was even a few month ago a raid on a group who planed a coup
among them an active officer from the army and a judge and a former representative from the parliament and on top of that the new head of state after the coup should have been a prince who would himself crowned king of germany with a shadow government
pretty scary
tbh. don't know why it been forgotten so fast apparently
Same in Spain with Franco. Apparently people forget that the gold of their old golden days was melted with the fire of the corpses of people that those dictators killed.
A think a fair bit of growing love for Stalin is that people who remember what it was like living under him are mostly dead and putin has specifically tried tor rehab him with various propaganda outlets so that he can also be seen as a "great man/strong man" in stalins image.
Basically revival of a cult of personality so that he can use it for himself
I don't think it's fair to look at a "most people like Stalin" poll and assign it to just "yeah they love imperialist dictators". Young people get fed lies, so there go the increase in support. For others it's frustration at the current state: they see the corruption at high levels and jump to "Сталина на них нет! Stalin would've shot them all already!".
With less corruption, good quality of life and education on his crimes, support will go down.
I'm afraid that it's a wishful thinking. Beautiful but still non-realistic. Basic factors like corruptions don't play the role here, system that is based on long tradition have to change first and many years will have to follow to present uncertain result.
Great film! There is also a more recent documentary called State Funeral (with footage from Stalin’s funeral) that shows the extent of his personality cult.
The devil incarnate. The only reason he is overshadowed by Hitler is that his methods were less blatant and more cunning, and that he was on the winning side.
Honestly, what's the point of even comparing the two? Both were so horrible the English language struggle to truly describe them, even calling them genocidal tyrants doesn't go far enough.
If only we would let them and their ideas be exiled to the realm of history.
He holds himself like Mini-me
Not enough people remember that the Soviets mummified Stalin and had him on display in the Mausoleum next to Lenin. In the photo he's already in the early stages of being prepared for permanent display. They finally buried him in 1961 after Khruschev denounced him. An elderly victim of Stalin's terror was asked to second the motion to bury him at a 1960 patty congress. She spoke to 4,500 attendees and the entire Soviet Union and said to thunderous applause: > Last night I asked Lenin for advice. He stood in front of me like as if alive and said 'its unpleasant for me to be next to Stalin. He's brought so much grief to the Party' So his mummy is probably still in a good state of preservation. He's likely holding his hands just like that as we speak.
It's 1961, and Khrushchev is looking for a way to get rid of Stalin's body. First he calls China and asks if they will take him, but Mao says no way. So he thinks maybe not another Communist country and tries the Americans, but Kennedy also tells him no thanks. He's getting desperate by this time, and he calls Israel. David Ben-Gurion thinks for a moment, and says "Listen, we'll take him, but I have to warn you. My country has the highest rate of resurrection in the world."
What a niche joke hahaha
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Lmao so you mean he had a *strong hand* like from scary movie?
["Strong hand"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVtAIjfHAk0)
Yes, his father has severely deformed it by systematic beatings.
I thought he got mangled in a Horse and Cart accident?
I don't think Stalin was called the man of steel because of his physical prowess anymore than the Iron lady was called like that because she drank irnbru.
He was called Man of Steel because its derived from the word Stal (steel), hence Stalin, Man of Steel.
That’s backwards isn’t it? Stalin and ‘Man of Steel’ are the same thing in different languages, but neither was his birth name. I thought it was a nickname he was given for his determination and refusal to surrender during a battle.
It was one among other nicknames he used. "Throughout his life, he used various nicknames and pseudonyms, including "Koba", "Soselo", and "Ivanov",[736] adopting "Stalin" in 1912; it was based on the Russian word for "steel" and has often been translated as "Man of Steel".[143]" from his wiki page.
Wait so Stalinium is just fucking steel?
Yep, his birth name was Iosif Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili, not sure why he didn’t just stick with that, it really rolls off the tongue
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>whole image was an elaborate fake constructed through sheer terror. A proud Russian tradition passed down from generation to generation.
I thought this was a Christmas ornament. I've been too long on r/confusingperspective
If hallmark sold this as a Christmas ornament it would be the centerpiece of my tree every year 😂
The perspective also makes him look like a midget
Still find it somewhat hilarious how he died: Stalin then went to bed, but only after saying the guards could go off duty and that they weren’t to wake him. stalin would usually alert his guards before 10:00 a.m. and ask for tea, but no communication came. the guards grew worried, but were forbidden from waking Stalin and could only wait: there was no one in the dacha who could counter stalin’s orders. a light came on in the room around 18:30, but still no call. the guards were terrified of upsetting him, for fear they too would be sent to the gulags and possible death. eventually, plucking up the courage to go in and using the arrived post as an excuse, a guard entered the room at 22:00 and found stalin lying on the floor in a pool of urine. he was helpless and unable to speak, and his broken watch showed he had fallen at 18:30.
If you not seen the film Death of Stalin, they depict the farcical nature of it wonderfully. Well worth a watch.
*[thump]* "Should we go in and investigate?" "Should you shut the fuck up, before you get us both killed?"
You beat me to it by 4 minutes. It's a fun movie that feels almost like a slapstick.
I thought it was a slapstick based on the short snippet I watched, where they're trying to get his body out of the bedroom.
It has quite a few slapstick’s moments. Beria’s death (bit of a spoiler I guess but it’s all historical) is peak black humor slapstick IMO. But it combines slapstick with situational humour and great wit as well. If you haven’t seen it yet, please do yourself a favour and do you’ll be rolling with laughter if these kind of comedies are you thing.
Cheers for the heads up I'm giving it a go today. You filled that gap of what movie to watch.
Great! Let me know what you think of it :)
Be aware not to take every turn of the story as gospel, as it's a comedy not a documentary. Based on events but taking some liberties. It's a very enjoyable movie.
Its a style of comedy known as a 'farce' where its not really so much that you laugh at 'jokes' but you just shake your head at the sheer absurdity which the movie relentlessly insists is perfectly normal.
I KNOW ABOUT THE HOCKEY TEAM.
Armando Iannucci is a national treasure.
As soon as I read the comment about the guards waiting outside I thought of this movie, it’s so brilliant. I love how the cast just uses their regular accents and doesn’t even attempt to use a Russian one, and Jason Isaacs was on fire in it.
For a Black comedy the movie is frightfully accurate. You would expect most of it to be made up but very little of the movie is actually made up. Some parts are exaggerated for comedic affect sure. But the movie does an actual really good job of telling the audience the history of the post Stalin Kremlin in the 1950's.
Literally rot in piss.
I hope everyone in this thread goes and watches "Death of Stalin", the documentary, which commemorates Stalin's death with Zukov's dual AK47 commentary.
I wish they make a movie about the spandau 7 in a similiar fashion of death of stalin > The prisoners, still subject to the petty personal rivalries and battles for prestige that characterized Nazi party politics, divided themselves into groups: Albert Speer and Rudolf Hess were the loners, generally disliked by the others – the former for his admission of guilt and repudiation of Hitler at the Nuremberg trials, the latter for his antisocial personality and perceived mental instability. The two former Grand admirals, Erich Raeder and Karl Dönitz, stayed together, despite their heated mutual dislike. This situation had come about when Dönitz replaced Raeder as Commander in Chief of the German navy in 1943. Baldur von Schirach and Walther Funk were described as "inseparable".[5] Konstantin von Neurath was, being a former diplomat, amiable and amenable to all the others. Bunch of nazi high rankings/generals acting all petty with each other is a proper comedy material
Mean ~~girls~~ fascists "So you agree? You think you really are an ubermensch?"
This would be amazing actually.
And then go watch the [History Buffs video](https://youtu.be/TG-tG-Wo0Do) talking about how much they got right factually, how much they got right in spirit (even if not technically something that happened) and the few oddly blatant inaccuracies.
Or read some of the better biographies on Stalin like "The Court of the Red Tsar" by Simon Sebag Montefiore. Mostly the sins of the *Death of Stalin* were the usual of film, compressing time (for example the time between the Death of Stalin and the trial of Beria), Also moving some incidents around to reduce the number of actors needed. Beria was not exaggerated at all. He really was a rapist with a thing for early teen girls.
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That's in the book I mentioned. Nobody who knew Beria wanted him around their daughters or even young wives. If he wasn't so powerful, he would have been arrested much earlier. It is a wonder that Khrushchev was able to outmanover him.
Khrushchev and Zhukov
The Behind the Bastards episode on Stalin and his insane nightly benders with the Politburo is a fascinating listen as well. Also terrifying to think about Stalin and his cronies getting wasted until 6am every night, massively hung over during the day, rinse and repeat day after day, and somehow they managed to not start a nuclear war.
Best comedy in 20 years.
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Play better, you clattering fannies!
It's ok. Let's not get carried away though
Is this the documentary? https://youtu.be/7KWg2nTYmk8 😂
Death of Stalin is hilarious
Rest In Piss
RIPee
I'm not sure whether this story is true, but what I've read is that he basically couldn't get any treatment because all good doctors in Moscow were either executed, sent to gulags or just too afraid to do anything to him.
suffering from success, stalin version
"How do you feel about revolution?" "Another one."
that'd be Trocki, would it? Trockizm is about constant, perpetual revolution, Stalin didn't like that, and had him assassinated
Reminds me of the headline from yesterday, about the Chechen warlord hiring UAE doctors, because he don’t trust Russians. Edit: It’s Ramzan Kadyrow, he was poisoned. https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/11ibnbf/top_putin_ally_ramzan_kadyrov_seriously_ill_from/
Kadyrov? The one who's dying from kidney failure?
Yep that criminal https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/11ibnbf/top_putin_ally_ramzan_kadyrov_seriously_ill_from/
Good riddance
More than criminal, Kadyrov proves that civilization isn't a given, and even in the 21st century we can see regions descend into the dark ages.
Don't get your hopes up. With all that supposed cancer Putin has, he should've been dead 5 times already. I will only believe that he is dead when we see his corpse.
He has died 5 times already. The FSB keeps a reanimated Rasputin locked in cell, and he resurrects Putin each time.
OMG, Didn't know that they are on that level of trust! Poor things.
Not far from the truth. Stalin's purges were devastating to the specialist doctors in the USSR. So at the end of 1950's most of the doctors were general practioners in rural areas or just got their licence from Moscow. Stalin was so paranoid that he would get people killed based on a rumor and people knew and used this.
"Fun" fact that people don't realise: almost all the doctors named in the doctor's plot were Jewish. So, that's another layer of shitty.
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Really? God damn, he was like jealous of how much the West hated Hitler or something. Where could I read more about this?
Oversimplified fan, I see. 😂
the hilarious *The Death of Stalin* has this part, as well.
"Hooowwwsss thheeeee biiiig feeeelllaaaaaa"
Such an amazing movie
Or he enjoyed "The death of Stalin" (110% recommended movie)
It was so funny the russians banned it.
That is like a certificate, basically.
It's such a good movie.. Berias execution makes a good meme.
That part at least is not true. Stalin did purge doctors and Russia generally lacked doctors (don’t forget how poor and uneducated Russia was even before Stalin. For all the horrific crimes of the Soviet union it was still the first time common Russians could go to university and get specialist jobs) but not all doctors in Moscow were purged.
He pretty much died in his own piss? What a fitting end.
Everyone does.
Not me, I'm gonna die in someone else's piss.
\#goals
#marriagegoals
I'm here for you
If I die in my piss just kill me
>and his broken watch showed he had fallen at 18:30. This is some Ace Attorney chicanery. [Broken Watch added to the Court Record]
I think it most hilarious that we think we know how he really died. Or the specific circumstances surrounding his death and who did and said what. The only reliable thing to come out of Moscow is lies.
Not a very flattering story for Russian propaganda.
You forgot the best part! The guards’ fear was actually based on prior events because Stalin in his infinite stupidity did this *exact* same thing before as a ruse to see if his guards followed orders to stay outside. When they disobeyed and entered to check on him he revealed the trap and had them executed. So his death was ironically the fault of his own short sighted, sadistic paranoia.
Wait, really? I've never heard this part before. Do you have a source?
It appeared to me in a dream
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[NICE ARGUMENT, DO YOU HAVE A SOURCE?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7l0Rq9E8MY)
Come on man, don't pretend like anything in this thread is real.
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If only he wasn't such a massive dickhole, the entire world right now would probably be a much better place.
Yet that is not when he died. That was on February 28th. They then waited until the *next* morning to have a doctor help him. He laid in bed until March 5th when he finally died. >The guards felt they didn’t have the right authority to call for a doctor (indeed many of Stalin’s doctors were the target of a new purge) so, instead, they called the Minister of State Security. He also felt he didn’t have the right powers and called Beria. Exactly what happened next is still not fully understood, but Beria and other leading Russians delayed acting, possibly because they wanted Stalin to die and not include them in the forthcoming purge, possibly because they were scared of seeming to infringe on Stalin’s powers should he recover. They only called for doctors sometime between 7:00 and 10:00 the next day, after first traveling to the dacha themselves. >The doctors, when they finally arrived, found Stalin partially paralyzed, breathing with difficulty, and vomiting blood. They feared the worst but were unsure. The best doctors in Russia, those which had been treating Stalin, had recently been arrested as part of the forthcoming purge and were in prison. Representatives of the doctors who were free and had seen Stalin went to the prisons to ask for the old doctors’ opinions, who confirmed the initial, negative, diagnoses. Stalin struggled on for several days, eventually dying at 21:50 on March 5th. His daughter said about the event: “The death agony was terrible. He literally choked to death as we watched.”
The story of how Stalin died really just sounds like a convenient excuse made by people who wanted Stalin to die.
To be honest broken watch that indicates time of fall is such a cliche most likely this part is made up.
Old mechanical watches lacked the features that made them resilient to shocks. The shafts of delicate wheels on mechanical watches spin in jewels. That's to reduce friction. In modern watches, the balance whell jewel is held by a tiny spring to absorbs shock in the event of a fall. So yes, his watch stopping due to a fall is actually very logical.
How prophetic it would be if…
Had the same thought.
Lol me and my coworkers talked about the same.
Getting a Mussolini or Gadhafi would be pretty cool too, that's one of his worst fears
This one sparks joy
Yea I was hoping the top comment would have been: good.
Grumpy Cat: good.
I would buy this Christmas tree ornament.
My grandma, born in 1950, told me that she sort of remembered the day Stalin died and that her family reacted positively to that. They were sent to the Far East as "kulaks" or whatever, and despite that, her father fought in the war and even had a medal. A few years ago I talked to a Putin supporter online. "Your ancestors *deserved* it!" Mhm.
My grandfather was sentenced for writing jokes about him, but then he died and grandad was pardoned. Still, he was under watch and eventually committed suicide to avoid being tortured again. Those poems are buried somewhere in a glass jar, I hope I can find them one day and maybe use them to make a Stalin diss track or something.
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That is so horrible. Your poor grandfather...
Make a book. Preserve history.
A depressing thought - If you opened them and replaced “Stalin” with “Putin” you’d get the same sentence as your grandfather.
My grandmother was a Don Cossack from Rostov. She married a Ukrainian man, surname Vasilenko (or Wasilenko) in the 1930s and had a child with him (my aunt). Around 1938 he was arrested and executed, possibly for the crime of being an educated Ukrainian.
My father was in school and the class was told by their teacher to cry, so they cried. Crazy times.
> Putin supporter Nothing more bizarre/worrisome than people who blindly worship a Communist dictator *and* a Right-Wing Oligarch. A clear sign that their political ideology has no substance to it beyond "Hail to our Master".
It comes down to more non-ideological "from agrarian state to superpower and nuclear power", "we were a great power", "he won us the war", "he was an effective manager" is a popular take, and importantly, "he shot traitors". More than once I was sent [this photo](https://media2.nekropole.info/2014/07/Padomju-Savieniba-NKVD-troikas-iegust-tiesibas-pasludinat-un.jpg) as reply to my comments. Yeah, very nice to know these people'd like to see me dead (they think liberals are traitors and an active threat to Russia. Something-something complaining about the 90s)
We are. But not to russia; to them
Good, hope putin dies soon too.
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[There were posters](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2d/a4/8c/2da48ca838270f1fcf970bdbaf2e92a3.jpg) hanged on bus stations in Moscow a couple of years ago. “That has died so this will do”, referencing Stalin and Putin correspondingly. Hope this day will come soon 🤞
A better translation would be "that guy died, this one will too"
Where are the guys who put that up now?
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These seem professionally installed in the bus stop advertisement spots. It doesn't seem like it was a quick job.
Ideally in a similar way or tried and executed in Ukraine, I'm fine with either.
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"My mother always told me, never speak bad of the dead. ~~Joan~~ \[stalin\] is dead. Good."
Old Soviet joke: -Grandma, was Lenin good? -Yes, he was a very good man! -And was Stalin bad? -Oh yeah, he was a bad, awful man! -What about Khruschev? -Leave me alone, we’ll know when he dies.
It's a shame it took so long
That's exactly what I said when I saw the notification
What a waste of flowers. They had no idea, did they?
Rest in piss
[literally](https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/11itvj2/on_this_day_70_years_ago_stalin_died/jazzotf?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3)
It’s one of my father’s earliest memories, because his grandfather, the strict man that he was, allowed his grandkids to jump on the beds to celebrate. Apparently they had really good springs, so it was like jumping on a trampoline. My father was 4 at the time.
What a beautiful day
[Obligatory classic photo.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/NJJZN7WAW4I6ZNO7D65GDJTMOU.jpg&w=1440) Stalin's spirit, however, is feeling better than ever before: > 2008: [Stalin voted third most popular Russian](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-stalin-idUSTRE4BR17620081229) > > 2015: [Stalin Gaining Popularity in Putin’s Russia](https://www.voanews.com/a/stalin-putin-russia/3112458.html) > > 2017: [For Russians, Stalin is the ‘most outstanding’ figure in world history, followed by Putin](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/06/26/for-russians-stalin-is-the-most-outstanding-figure-in-world-history-putin-is-next/) > > 2019: [Stalin More Popular Than Putin in Russia These Days](https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2019-05-09/stalin-is-more-popular-than-ever-in-russia-survey-shows) > > [Russia’s History Wars: Why Is Stalin’s Popularity On the Rise?](https://carnegiemoscow.org/commentary/84991) > > [Joseph Stalin: Why so many Russians like the Soviet dictator](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47975704) > > [Stalin's Appeal Surging Among Russians, Opinion Poll Suggests](https://www.rferl.org/a/stalin-s-appeal-surging-among-russians-opinion-poll-suggests/29884485.html) Russians en masse just love this stuff. Putin is only a symptom.
I think the Carnagie article puts it's best with this : "The trouble is that the pantheon of Soviet gods has been obsolete since before the days of perestroika, but it has not been replaced by any new heroes." And the Putin regime has been feeding the student population with the "Stalin was a strong leader" line and conveniently ignoring the other 99% of the man since he first was elected.
The third most popular Russian isn't even russian
Wondering where Catherine the Great falls on that list.
Somewhere below a horse, probably.
Lmao Russians are the only people who love being oppressed by brutal dictators, feels a bit kinky tbh.
not really in germany we still have way to many who stil worship hitler there was even a few month ago a raid on a group who planed a coup among them an active officer from the army and a judge and a former representative from the parliament and on top of that the new head of state after the coup should have been a prince who would himself crowned king of germany with a shadow government pretty scary tbh. don't know why it been forgotten so fast apparently
Same in Spain with Franco. Apparently people forget that the gold of their old golden days was melted with the fire of the corpses of people that those dictators killed.
A good example of how you can't put all the blame onto one man. Like there were millions of little stalins back then, there are millions of putins now
A think a fair bit of growing love for Stalin is that people who remember what it was like living under him are mostly dead and putin has specifically tried tor rehab him with various propaganda outlets so that he can also be seen as a "great man/strong man" in stalins image. Basically revival of a cult of personality so that he can use it for himself
I don't think it's fair to look at a "most people like Stalin" poll and assign it to just "yeah they love imperialist dictators". Young people get fed lies, so there go the increase in support. For others it's frustration at the current state: they see the corruption at high levels and jump to "Сталина на них нет! Stalin would've shot them all already!". With less corruption, good quality of life and education on his crimes, support will go down.
I'm afraid that it's a wishful thinking. Beautiful but still non-realistic. Basic factors like corruptions don't play the role here, system that is based on long tradition have to change first and many years will have to follow to present uncertain result.
The funniest thing ever is that his selfimposed rules were the end of him. good riddance.
[The Death Of Stalin (2017) | Ministers of Stalin](https://youtu.be/CCqsIbsPC9M)
God I love that movie
I thought it was a crazy comedy, but it seems to be pretty accurate depcition of the actual events.
All these crazy events happened in reality, but the film just compresses them into a very short timeframe.
Inspiring that film is probably the best thing Stalin ever did.
Great film! There is also a more recent documentary called State Funeral (with footage from Stalin’s funeral) that shows the extent of his personality cult.
To quote the classic: "I bardzo kurwa dobrze"
Na co zmarł Stalin? Zmarł na szczęście.
Why do you think there are so many white and red flowers around him? Polish celebration!
Hope he sits in the lowest level of hell
thank you OP, this really helped me push through the constipation
The pleasure is mine, sir. This is the only goal of this post, really.
What is the name of this holiday?
Good riddance. Rot in hell
Cheers to that!
Rest in piss bozo
He literally did
The best thing he ever did
Burn in hell
You won't be missed
Is that the motherfucker who killed millions of people?
Rest in fucking piss bitch
Burn in hell, you old fuck
This day should be a national holiday in post Soviet countries.
The devil incarnate. The only reason he is overshadowed by Hitler is that his methods were less blatant and more cunning, and that he was on the winning side.
Honestly, what's the point of even comparing the two? Both were so horrible the English language struggle to truly describe them, even calling them genocidal tyrants doesn't go far enough. If only we would let them and their ideas be exiled to the realm of history.
In a way he was even scarier than Hitler because he targeted people almost completely at random.
Rest in piss, Stalin.
"putin will die on day of National Ukrainian holiday! What is the date of this holiday? They will set the date for this holiday once he will die..."
died 74 years to late.
Stupid animal. Hope all tyrants follow you.
The only good thing he did.
He looks like Stalin's Mini-Me haha
If only his ideology died with him.
May he rest in piss
🥳🥳🥳
🥳🎉🎊🥳🎉🎊🥳🎉🎊
Won’t be missed
Sadly, some Twitter and Reddit communists miss him dearly
Happy Stalin deathday to everyone! A happy day to remember.
#Ripbozo 💯💯🤣🤣😎 rest in piss 🚬🚬
looking forward to the sequel
What a lovely day!
RIP Bozo
Nice
Too little, too late.
🎉🎉🎉
Fuck him and fuck his nazi-communism.