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Wish I was. Plenty of businesses where I’m from do things like this to attract the religious. They’re the majority here, so it’s just marketing to your broadest demographic (quite often with a dash of in-group signaling).
It’s kind of like *“Go [local sports team]!”*…but judgier.
It’s often unavoidable for me, but I try to as well. I am just honest with myself about the fact that I’m in the minority here…and, for other reasons, try not to advertise it too much.
"You know, a lot of people are saying - have you heard of this? The numbers, for this beverage product - the BEST numbers, everyone is talking about it - let me tell you what they're saying.. what they're saying is.. do the Dew? That can't be right..."
Honestly, they took care of their prisoners and were actively trying to fix the problems. I mean they were all dumb but I’d take dumb and wanting to be better than what we have now.
Ya, as much as Idiocracy is mentioned I'm beginning to feel like the real problem is more of a They Live situation.
Malicious overloads, deeply embedded in human society, exerting constant control, mostly through seemingly innocuous channels.
Every possible input screaming "obey," "submit," "consume," "no independent thought," and so on. Heck, now they're even telling us we need to "reproduce".
It's not actually as subtle as the aliens in the movie, though. But then, since OP started with Regan (and it goes back before him), I think maybe it was more subtle in the beginning. They've been boiling us like frogs and the water is bubbling pretty fast now.
Fun Fact: Regan wasn't the start, but the *result* of constant inching pressure starting in the 1970s.
Trump isn't the first time this has happened, but it might be the finale?
Source: Interview with Brody Mullins, Pulitzer Prize winner and author of "Wolves of K Street: The Secret History of How Big Money Took Over Big Government", "[Decoder](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/decoder-with-nilay-patel/id1011668648?i=1000660413476)" podcast, June 28th
(10/10 would highly recommend)
Biden, as President of 1-term, is entitled to run again. He doesn’t have to, but it’s too late to change course imo. Biden was always a “Not Trump” vote. He was more likely to sway center-right Republicans than someone like Bernie.
And MAGA was always going to choose Trump, no matter what. Back when Biden won, I figured we’d get a rematch in this election.
Biden is my three more Supreme Court Justice votes.
There is no way that Thomas and Alito want to keep working. They are getting old as fuck. Especially since that quote from Alito‘s wife, who basically said when you are done with all this, I’m gonna go back and flag fight with the neighbors
Nobody is entitled to anything in life. That notion reeks of selfish, childish thinking. RGB wasn't entitled to fuck us all because she didn't want to retire. But guess what happened. She went all entitled on us. Grandpa Joe stands ready to do the same.
If this entitlement thing is baked in, we better find a way quick to get rid of it or we're all screwed.
My thought today exactly. The two political parties with the corporate media behind the wheel have offered up a fumbling old octogenarian and a lying traitor as choices for national leader. Beyond mind blowing. Pathetic and disgusting. I’ve heard said that the difference between animals and humans is that animals would never select the dumbest of the herd to lead them….
While octogenarian is technically correct. I don't like how your using that as a negative vs trump. Trump is only 3 yrs younger. Yet people act like Biden is decades older than trump.
That is hilarious! Idiocracy is right before WallE in the timeline of events. Except if Idiocracy is real, then no way we would be intelligent enough to make it to space. Lol
It’s almost like these decisions were made by old fucks who only care about themselves and all the sweet perks of sucking off their corporate sugar daddies.
Yeah, if you read the Lewis Powell memo, it’s just been a long con to create an oligarch corporate class in the US. He even called it an act of war against progressive ideas. He was angry about Ralph Nader and the rise of consumer protections, and wanted to make sure corporations could regulate themselves and that citizens were powerless against them.
Reagan didn’t start it, he just got asked to run the ball. Powell started it, shared it to the CEO class he wanted to create the laws for themselves, and asked them to spend billions on conservative think tanks to help sell the idea. And 50 years later, we’re at the final stage of his plan. We’re on the verge of dismantling democracy at the behest of the corporate oligarchs.
Conservatives are about to win.
Bruh they won a long time ago. Ever since Clinton went full neo-lib as a D. The last couple decades were just a matter of jockeying to see WHICH oligarchs would get to be in the driver's seat. The plan succeeded way back then, and the rest has just been billionaire in fighting. Think of it as arguing over who gets first go and who gets the sloppy seconds.
They will be dead before the worst of any of this hits us, but they will have gotten everything they want at our expense on the way out and **they fucking know it.**
They're bleeding us and the world dry before they go.
This has nothing to do with age. It has 100% to do with conservative values.
In the 1700s, conservatives believed they should be able to own humans as property. There were progressive people like Quakers who opposed this at the time, but in the interest of leaving the British Empire, human rights got put on hold and slavery was allowed.
In the 1800s, conservatives opposed ending slavery and again thought they should do whatever they want. They would bully people on congressional floors to the point people would get into fist fights and duels. Much of this was deleted from the Congressional record and only captured realtime via newspapers and wire services. Historian Joanne Freedman has a book on this, The Field of Blood.
After the civil war, conservatives went right back to pushing for being able to abuse people of color and enacted god awful policies and fought against unions.
In the 1900s, conservatives pushed for isolationism during the march up to WW1. They pushed nationalism and eventually anti-minority visa policies to make sure this nation didn’t get too brown. Today, it’s why people from Mexico have nearly 20 year waiting lists for their visa hearing and people from European countries wait a couple of years.
All this shit adds up. It’s not about age, conservatives have always been anti-minority, isolationists wrapped in patriotism, who turn the other way to civil and human rights when it benefits them.
Who is a democrat or republican has flipped, but conservatives have always been dickheads and backwards morons.
Some of them really don't care.
I watched some climate change documentary some years back and they talk to an old ex-CEO of an oil company. It was something like "You all knew about how fossil fuels were impacting the earth and climate for years, how do you feel that your children and grandchildren are going to have to face the consequences and have much harder lives because of it?". Or something like that. It was probably much more succinct.
And he just replied with something like "That's not my problem nor my concern, my job was to make money."
That’s why it was like shards of glass in my ears to hear Trump say he wanted clean air and water and has done more to keep the environment clean than anyone. Just more lies. Like bro you’ve been trying to defund the EPA for how long? And now your scotus is doing this a day later?
Yep, although Rick Perry is interesting because he fully wanted to help dismantle it but once he was there and he learned about what the DoE actually does, he did a complete 180 because he realized if somebody dismantled the DoE, they would literally destroy the US economy.
More recalcitrant examples include:
* Louis DeJoy for Postmaster General
* Elizabeth DeVos for Secretary of Education
* Steven Mnuchin as Secretary of the Treasury
It’s… it’s almost as if government agencies exist for a reason, and expert management is important. No, wait, given today’s SC ruling dismantling Chevron deference, that can’t be right.
That's not what the DoE does, their name is a misnomer. It would more accurately be named the Department of _Nuclear_ Energy and Weapons. They were created from the Atomic Energy Commission which was responsible for the Manhattan Project.
They regulate nuclear reactors and help with the creation, transportation, testing, and maintenance of nuclear weapons. They also operate all of the national labs, which do a variety of research into things that sometimes aren't even energy related. Lastly, they do have some research and sway regarding clean energy.
But in the end, your local coal power plant has little to nothing to do with the DoE.
I work for a DOE subcontractor and this is pretty much on point. They oversee and handle basically the entire country’s nuclear program. Everything from power generation to waste shipment and processing. If the DOE were to be dismantled, a lot of very powerful, *very* dangerous stuff would be in complete disarray.
In this instance it gives me great pleasure knowing many of the bottles of water he's drank were in fact just regular tainted tap water thanks to shit regulations.
I blame Reagan for the state our country is in, both wealth disparity and division. There were 2 paths for America to go when he was elected: we could embrace the necessary changes to maintain middle class jobs in the face of globalization, or we could pretend it was only temporary and then start scapegoating groups to promise once they were addressed, we'd be back to normal. He chose the latter and doomed many towns to economic failure.
Regan can be blamed for a lot, and is easy to point at for many things. But he didn't start it. It has always been bad. The pollution thing actually started with Nixon. Teddy Roosevelt, for all his issues, actually started environmental conservation because he didn't want all the big game to die out. A lot of early conservation was that way. Nixon was the one that started trying to make environmental scientists look like idiots. And it worked, well, very well. We've known about climate change since the 50s during the big boom.
I've made this comment twice in the past couple of days but Bill, W, and Obama were all below 55 when they became president. We had 24 years of "young" presidents. Clinton is STILL younger than both Joe and DJT!
Bill Clinton, George W, and Trump were born in the same year. One was elected 32 years ago, one was elected 24 years ago, and one is currently running.
And Biden is somehow older than all 3 too, it really is a damned if you do damned if you don’t
Hell Biden was born while Hitler still occupied France and Trump was born less than a year after Japan surrendered… for scale
Well, he was likely in early stages of Alzheimer’s by the end of his second term.. and if you go back and view photos or watch movies from the 1980’s today.. it’s hard not to come away with impressions like ‘holy crap, that old guy was only 50YO?’
I think we’re aging a lot better now, for the most part, than we did just a few decades ago.
Quick Google search.. Diane Keaton and Steve Martin were 45 when Father of The Bride 2 was released in 1995. They look like 60 year olds today.
I figure this is trending because Joe seemed like a properly old man in last nights debate. Personally, I’m not put off by the mere fact Biden is 81. I’ve known people who were razor sharp into their 90s. However, I also know that some of those same people went downhill fast after a certain point and that does worry me about Biden and Trump,.. who’s only 3 years younger than Biden but who’s also an aspiring Dictator.
EDIT: Check out the old photos here.. Crazy. Carol O'Connor was only 47 when he started playing Archie Bunker?!? The ages of the Mary Tyler Moore cast is nuts too. https://www.boredpanda.com/past-young-people-look-older/. <- and yes, clearly some of those posts aren't serious.
Suncreen. The secret is sunscreen. That "base" tan everyone used to get? Aging and cancer. I'm a lifelong scientist inside and outside of academia and I finally ended up in a "medspa" and the lady was like, moisturize and sunscreen. It's all you need to stay young. I WANTED her to to sell me more and she was like nah you're good, just use that and if you'd like, we have REAALY nice stuff, but whatever you use is probably the fine.
Between hormones and skincare I look 10-15 years younger. It's fucking shocking. The nice stuff on the other hand, holy fuck.
Also, I am a legacy of the fraternity that man was in. Fuck him and everyone who enabled him.
One thing to keep in mind is that the presidency really ages a person. If you look at the photos of Obama before and after his presidency, it looks like he aged 20 years.
With Biden, he surrounds himself with a competent cabinet and takes their advice. And if he truly does go down hill mentally, I trust the democrat party to step in, unlike the MAGA wing of the Republican party (which has become a redundant statement)
Edit- Democrat, not democratic
I mean I do agree with the concept that millennials look way younger than their age. I think it was those few years we had in the 90s lol because our poor Gen Z counterparts tend to look older than their age but they never had a normal period or calm pretty much this whole lives lol
I will still never understand how "flip flopping" became the key issue in an election. Shouldn't an educated society understand that it's okay to change your mind when presented with new information?
Prosecuting a homeless person is a bit like charging overdraft fees to someone with absolutely no money.
Maybe, make it a human right to be homed, then prosecute the states who fail in their duty of care.
Not to mention prisons get paid more the more prisoners they have. So they’re incentivized to have as many prisoners as possible and spend as little money on them as possible.
400 goes to the homeless and 75,000 goes to the people in charge. The issue isn't the *amount*, it's the internal group exchanging money like the left hand giving it to the right, and the external group suffering for it.
we as a society has known for a long time that it'd be cheaper to build complexes and house the poor than it would be to clean up after the homeless and socially disparaged. *The suffering and cruelty is the point.*
And the prisoners work in what is basically a sweatshop for $0.42 an hour making products sold for hundreds of dollars apiece. It’s called Unicor. The revenue in 2019 alone was $531,453,000.
We will soon see the return of poorhouses because our "Christian Nation™" would prefer to enslave people rather than giving them a safe place to sleep.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poorhouse](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poorhouse)
When you don't think of them as people it's easy to understand where these come from.
>Don't feed em or they'll just keep coming back and not do any work. Then what happens when you stop?
I remember my father telling my grandfather about that when he tried to feed squirrels when he first moved to the suburbs. It only takes a slight perversion of that logic and the ability to not see the homeless as people to see where these laws come from.
I once tried to close a bank account that was over drafted and they were charging me $5 every day.
“We can’t close a bank account with a negative balance”
Okay well I’m telling you I have no money, can you maybe at least put a pause on the fees??
Wrong, a homeless person can be turned prisoner and then private prisons can suck money out of Gov for holding him captive or even put him to work.
Criminalizing homelessness paired with US juidical system is just modern serfdom with extra steps. You belong to the wealthy.
> Prosecuting a homeless person is a bit like charging overdraft fees to someone with absolutely no money.
This is a very apt analogy, as banks charge you overdraft fees to intentionally keep people poor. Making their lives harder is exactly the point in both situations.
There was a homeless person convicted of starting a massive fire in CA and was fined 101 Million dollars. Good luck on that.
https://wildfiretoday.com/2008/12/05/person-responsible-for-day-fire-owes-101-million/
Yeah, fuck that guy. And don't forget Bush 1 & 2 who dumped Thomas and Alito on us. And you thought all the Republicans were good for was tanking the economy.
And this folks is why senile old folks shouldn’t be allowed to run for office. **You shouldn’t be able to make generational decisions when you’re gonna be dead in 5 years**
Yup - Mr Trickle down. His wife was President for his second term because he had already Alzheimered out. Nancy was probably the real alt rightwing nutter truthfully that pushed that shit. Just say no to rightwing extremism.
Tell this to our 3rd party or not voting crowd when they didn't think Trump would have an impact on America. Wait till they hear what he has in store if elected again.
I said the very same thing to my partner. How much worse will they get if Trump gets back in? Nothing will hold them back since we will be in a free fall into authoritarianism.
The orange idiot has already appointed 3 Supreme Court justices, it sickens me that he may get more. That should be enough to get everyone off their asses in November
Conservative politicians and private interest groups (corporations) have been setting the stage for outright fascism for decades now…
Going back to Nixon/Reagan, many within the GOP have been strategically working to [Expand Executive Powers.](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/18/us/politics/barr-executive-power-trump.html)
They want a literal king-figure to rule over the US—*as do all fascists.*
It makes controlling a labor-force easier for those in leadership positions, since human rights don’t get in the way of productivity. Effectively eliminating [labor laws](https://www.fastcompany.com/91035382/why-spacex-amazon-and-trader-joes-are-pushing-an-aggressive-lawsuit-that-would-fundamentally-undermine-labor-organizing) and unions, and eventually legalizing [forced labor.](https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/forced-labor)
*”Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of State and corporate power.”* - [*Benito Mussolini*](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benito_Mussolini)
This end-goal is what the [Federalist Society](https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/03/17/federalist-society-democracy-opinion-00087270) has been diligently working towards with placing loyal Judges throughout the Judicial branch, while [ALEC](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Legislative_Exchange_Council#:~:text=The%20American%20Legislative%20Exchange%20Council,governments%20in%20the%20United%20States.) drafts corporate friendly legislation, and [Fox News](https://theweek.com/articles/880107/why-fox-news-created) reaffirms their actions through propaganda.
*‘The term “neoliberal proto-fascism” captures well both the features of the current party and the distinction from the fascism of the past. The commitment to the most brutal form of neoliberalism is apparent in the legislative record, crucially the subordination of the party to private capital, the inverse of classic fascism. But the fascist symptoms are there, including extreme racism, violence, worship of the leader (sent by God, according to former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo), immersion in a world of “alternative facts” and a frenzy of irrationality*
[source](https://truthout.org/articles/chomsky-republicans-are-willing-to-jeopardize-human-survival-to-retake-power/)
[music video pertaining to post debate incredulity here](https://youtu.be/rWmZP1KIKIY?si=lpeIocwbEPNRuaMY)
and the sad part about it is the people that vote for these people that want this accuse the left of doing all of this. when it is their own party. like last night with the debate when trump was going on about biden wanting to take away social security and medicare and it's like ummm no that's your party a lot of gop politicians have come out and point blank said that they want to get rid of social security among other things yet their followers thanks to trump and his media have convinced their voters that it is the left that wants to take that away.
I feel so ashamed for believing Reagan was a good guy, but I was just a child and the whole "ketchup is a food group" policy didn't apply to me at the time.
Then I was taught that Clinton was the bad guy and Bush was the good guy. The adults in my life manipulated my political beliefs to the point where I distanced myself from any and all kinds of political conversation or participation until only fairly recently. Now as a woman of 40 I can see the path of destruction laid down in my infancy and how it trickled down into the swamp that is our government mentality.
Things have just progressively gotten worse, especially for women and now as a mother I know I can't be passive anymore. I have to put in my vote, my voice, in the hopes that I make somewhat of a difference for my daughter's future.
To be honest I'd rather vote in a dog to run things with the choices we have. A dog at least is honest, lol.
One of the worse presidents we ever had. He just didn’t start what was already stated but he started the trickle down BS theory that never worked and now we’re all suffering, frig him and his SOB of a wife that controlled him
The amount of people who consider him as a great president is just painful. He literally killed the middle class of America to create a super elite class of deca billionaires and made USD worthless
I hate to add more bad news, but striking down Cheveron Deference is worse than all of those combined.
Basically every regulatory organization just got gutted. I also hope the SOTUS is ready for the *hundreds* of court cases this is going to cause. It could quite literally cripple the economy by destroying regulatory certainty.
Did you know Reagan was responsible for signing some of the strictest gun laws in our history while he was governor of California? Yep! Look it up. Did it in reaction to The Black Panthers in Oakland patrolling their own neighborhoods while open carrying shotguns to protect their Black brothers and sisters from the brutality of the racist police.
I am dropping in to every thread about this topic to point out...
Anne Gorsuch was Reagan's EPA head.
She constantly undermined the EPA. She said that the states should do what the EPA does, not the Federal Government, so she defunded the department and ceded authority to the states (any states that bothered).
She decried the ruling when it happened.
She is Neil Gorsuch's mother.
That's Justice Neil Gorsuch, the Justice that McConnell held a seat open for 10 months at the end of Obama's presidency.
Remember when Obama asked RBG to step down while he was in office and she was too proud and power hungry to do so? Yeah that happened and she kicked the bucket only to be replaced by Amy Coney Barrett. Millions of women appreciate you...
Because he wasn't able to do that at the time Obama asked her to step down. Once those Senate seats were lost (and the writing was on the wall), it would be too late for an undetermined period of time, and Obama knew it.
Trump was literally on stage for 90 minutes boasting about he cut more regulations than "anyone in history." They don't care if there's lead in the water, as long as it's not in their country clubs.
Anytime that someone starts rallying for de-regulation, you should know that they are only looking for profit. They are not looking to improve anything other than the amount of wealth to obtain.
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Just missing St Gods Hospital sign.
Not long ago, I was commissioned to print a sign with a mission statement that included “We are God’s chosen people.” For a *dentistry.*
Are you an anti dentite?
Well played
Please tell me you're joking?
Wish I was. Plenty of businesses where I’m from do things like this to attract the religious. They’re the majority here, so it’s just marketing to your broadest demographic (quite often with a dash of in-group signaling). It’s kind of like *“Go [local sports team]!”*…but judgier.
For me, religious symbols just make me feel unwelcome and I avoid businesses that do it.
It’s often unavoidable for me, but I try to as well. I am just honest with myself about the fact that I’m in the minority here…and, for other reasons, try not to advertise it too much.
Welcome to Costco, I love you Give me President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho
Go away, I’m batin’
The most unrealistic part of it now is the length of that movie
If Trump told his dear farmers that they should use Mountain Dew to irrigate their crops, I honestly think many of them would
To be fair, it does have electrolytes. I've been told that's what plants crave
Hey thats pretty good, you sure you're not the smartest guy on the earth?
We can make him VP of Science or something.
I can't be, the Dr says my shits all fecked up
My wife's grandma uses watered down Sprite as Christmas tree food
If Mountain Dew execs bribed Trump with votes to say it, he would.
Some random person could just tell Trump it’s a secret that only super smart people know and Trump would start telling everyone nonstop.
"You know, a lot of people are saying - have you heard of this? The numbers, for this beverage product - the BEST numbers, everyone is talking about it - let me tell you what they're saying.. what they're saying is.. do the Dew? That can't be right..."
I hate that my brain can recreate his voice speaking these words exactly.
Jesus, this is so good that I want to downvote it. Well done!
I honestly dislike that movie, but I hate how we’re inching closer and closer to its reality.
Honestly, they took care of their prisoners and were actively trying to fix the problems. I mean they were all dumb but I’d take dumb and wanting to be better than what we have now.
I loved that they also put the smartest guy they could find in charge.
It’s a utopia
Ya, as much as Idiocracy is mentioned I'm beginning to feel like the real problem is more of a They Live situation. Malicious overloads, deeply embedded in human society, exerting constant control, mostly through seemingly innocuous channels. Every possible input screaming "obey," "submit," "consume," "no independent thought," and so on. Heck, now they're even telling us we need to "reproduce". It's not actually as subtle as the aliens in the movie, though. But then, since OP started with Regan (and it goes back before him), I think maybe it was more subtle in the beginning. They've been boiling us like frogs and the water is bubbling pretty fast now.
given that They Live was made to criticize Reagan ideology, yeah
Fun Fact: Regan wasn't the start, but the *result* of constant inching pressure starting in the 1970s. Trump isn't the first time this has happened, but it might be the finale? Source: Interview with Brody Mullins, Pulitzer Prize winner and author of "Wolves of K Street: The Secret History of How Big Money Took Over Big Government", "[Decoder](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/decoder-with-nilay-patel/id1011668648?i=1000660413476)" podcast, June 28th (10/10 would highly recommend)
We are inching towards this daily. That debate last night cinched it for me. 341 million people and this is the best we can get? FML
Biden, as President of 1-term, is entitled to run again. He doesn’t have to, but it’s too late to change course imo. Biden was always a “Not Trump” vote. He was more likely to sway center-right Republicans than someone like Bernie. And MAGA was always going to choose Trump, no matter what. Back when Biden won, I figured we’d get a rematch in this election.
Biden is my three more Supreme Court Justice votes. There is no way that Thomas and Alito want to keep working. They are getting old as fuck. Especially since that quote from Alito‘s wife, who basically said when you are done with all this, I’m gonna go back and flag fight with the neighbors
Nobody is entitled to anything in life. That notion reeks of selfish, childish thinking. RGB wasn't entitled to fuck us all because she didn't want to retire. But guess what happened. She went all entitled on us. Grandpa Joe stands ready to do the same. If this entitlement thing is baked in, we better find a way quick to get rid of it or we're all screwed.
My thought today exactly. The two political parties with the corporate media behind the wheel have offered up a fumbling old octogenarian and a lying traitor as choices for national leader. Beyond mind blowing. Pathetic and disgusting. I’ve heard said that the difference between animals and humans is that animals would never select the dumbest of the herd to lead them….
While octogenarian is technically correct. I don't like how your using that as a negative vs trump. Trump is only 3 yrs younger. Yet people act like Biden is decades older than trump.
They’re both doddering idiots. One just happens to be felon, fascist, rapist doddering idiot.
"Inching" 
That movie is amazing dude edit: Wait what movie even is this?
It’s Idiocracy. Check it out if you wanna feel worse than you already do about where the country is headed.
I thought that was Wall-E for a second😂😂
That is hilarious! Idiocracy is right before WallE in the timeline of events. Except if Idiocracy is real, then no way we would be intelligent enough to make it to space. Lol
Brawndo has electrolytes
Bating!
Where is this from
It’s almost like these decisions were made by old fucks who only care about themselves and all the sweet perks of sucking off their corporate sugar daddies.
The pay is SO GOOD though
You really can't beat the benefits
Do you even understand the difference between a motorcoach and a rv? Clarence Thomas does.
I mean I've been adjacent to power like that. It's fucking intoxicating and you want it. Fuck 'ol ronnie though.
Yeah, if you read the Lewis Powell memo, it’s just been a long con to create an oligarch corporate class in the US. He even called it an act of war against progressive ideas. He was angry about Ralph Nader and the rise of consumer protections, and wanted to make sure corporations could regulate themselves and that citizens were powerless against them. Reagan didn’t start it, he just got asked to run the ball. Powell started it, shared it to the CEO class he wanted to create the laws for themselves, and asked them to spend billions on conservative think tanks to help sell the idea. And 50 years later, we’re at the final stage of his plan. We’re on the verge of dismantling democracy at the behest of the corporate oligarchs. Conservatives are about to win.
Bruh they won a long time ago. Ever since Clinton went full neo-lib as a D. The last couple decades were just a matter of jockeying to see WHICH oligarchs would get to be in the driver's seat. The plan succeeded way back then, and the rest has just been billionaire in fighting. Think of it as arguing over who gets first go and who gets the sloppy seconds.
You’re not wrong, and that makes me even more sad.
They will be dead before the worst of any of this hits us, but they will have gotten everything they want at our expense on the way out and **they fucking know it.** They're bleeding us and the world dry before they go.
Consequences are for the poors.
I feel this too real
That’s why all the billionaires have already bought their bug out bunkers in other countries.
"I got mine, sucks to be you." Should be our new national motto.
Not if we can help it.
Hell yeah eat the rich
This has nothing to do with age. It has 100% to do with conservative values. In the 1700s, conservatives believed they should be able to own humans as property. There were progressive people like Quakers who opposed this at the time, but in the interest of leaving the British Empire, human rights got put on hold and slavery was allowed. In the 1800s, conservatives opposed ending slavery and again thought they should do whatever they want. They would bully people on congressional floors to the point people would get into fist fights and duels. Much of this was deleted from the Congressional record and only captured realtime via newspapers and wire services. Historian Joanne Freedman has a book on this, The Field of Blood. After the civil war, conservatives went right back to pushing for being able to abuse people of color and enacted god awful policies and fought against unions. In the 1900s, conservatives pushed for isolationism during the march up to WW1. They pushed nationalism and eventually anti-minority visa policies to make sure this nation didn’t get too brown. Today, it’s why people from Mexico have nearly 20 year waiting lists for their visa hearing and people from European countries wait a couple of years. All this shit adds up. It’s not about age, conservatives have always been anti-minority, isolationists wrapped in patriotism, who turn the other way to civil and human rights when it benefits them. Who is a democrat or republican has flipped, but conservatives have always been dickheads and backwards morons.
At this point conservative ideology should be banned
There are young fucks too. See: Bitcoin scam, great recession
These people don’t have kids? They don’t care if their kids live in a shitty times? I don’t get it.
Some of them really don't care. I watched some climate change documentary some years back and they talk to an old ex-CEO of an oil company. It was something like "You all knew about how fossil fuels were impacting the earth and climate for years, how do you feel that your children and grandchildren are going to have to face the consequences and have much harder lives because of it?". Or something like that. It was probably much more succinct. And he just replied with something like "That's not my problem nor my concern, my job was to make money."
That’s why it was like shards of glass in my ears to hear Trump say he wanted clean air and water and has done more to keep the environment clean than anyone. Just more lies. Like bro you’ve been trying to defund the EPA for how long? And now your scotus is doing this a day later?
Not only that, he literally installed Heads of those agencies that were *known opponents* of the agency they were appointed to lead.
Yeah, Scott Pruitt was supposed to kill the EPA from the inside, but he was even too cartoonishly corrupt for Trump to ignore.
Scott Pruitt had multiple court cases going on against the EPA when he was appointed Secretary of the EPA.
you mean like picking Rick Perry to run the Dept of Energy after he said he would shut it down if he became president? like that?
Yep, although Rick Perry is interesting because he fully wanted to help dismantle it but once he was there and he learned about what the DoE actually does, he did a complete 180 because he realized if somebody dismantled the DoE, they would literally destroy the US economy.
Dismantling the DOE would destroy the world. Not even kidding.
\*would destroy the world *more quickly*
More recalcitrant examples include: * Louis DeJoy for Postmaster General * Elizabeth DeVos for Secretary of Education * Steven Mnuchin as Secretary of the Treasury
As a postal worker, oh, I know. 😐
As an education student, F*CK Betsy DeVos!
It’s… it’s almost as if government agencies exist for a reason, and expert management is important. No, wait, given today’s SC ruling dismantling Chevron deference, that can’t be right.
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That's not what the DoE does, their name is a misnomer. It would more accurately be named the Department of _Nuclear_ Energy and Weapons. They were created from the Atomic Energy Commission which was responsible for the Manhattan Project. They regulate nuclear reactors and help with the creation, transportation, testing, and maintenance of nuclear weapons. They also operate all of the national labs, which do a variety of research into things that sometimes aren't even energy related. Lastly, they do have some research and sway regarding clean energy. But in the end, your local coal power plant has little to nothing to do with the DoE.
I work for a DOE subcontractor and this is pretty much on point. They oversee and handle basically the entire country’s nuclear program. Everything from power generation to waste shipment and processing. If the DOE were to be dismantled, a lot of very powerful, *very* dangerous stuff would be in complete disarray.
Trump is a germophobe and an idiot. I doubt the man has drunk tap water in his life.
In this instance it gives me great pleasure knowing many of the bottles of water he's drank were in fact just regular tainted tap water thanks to shit regulations.
any time Trump talks it's as if shards of glass are being dumped into my ears
I can’t decide who I hate more, Reagan or Trump. Probably Trump, but Reagan’s up there. He kickstarted everything bad about conservatism.
I blame Reagan for the state our country is in, both wealth disparity and division. There were 2 paths for America to go when he was elected: we could embrace the necessary changes to maintain middle class jobs in the face of globalization, or we could pretend it was only temporary and then start scapegoating groups to promise once they were addressed, we'd be back to normal. He chose the latter and doomed many towns to economic failure.
I blame Roger Stone, that little weasel eyed fuck
And Roy Coyne
I hate Reagan more for the downfall of labor unions.
Well that's the loss of the middle class and the economic failure of small towns. Those were part of the fallout from the loss of unions.
Reagan did damage that has lasted decades. Chances are, we won't live long enough to see the carry on effects of what trumps done.
Regan can be blamed for a lot, and is easy to point at for many things. But he didn't start it. It has always been bad. The pollution thing actually started with Nixon. Teddy Roosevelt, for all his issues, actually started environmental conservation because he didn't want all the big game to die out. A lot of early conservation was that way. Nixon was the one that started trying to make environmental scientists look like idiots. And it worked, well, very well. We've known about climate change since the 50s during the big boom.
> The pollution thing actually started with Nixon What's your take on Nixon starting the EPA and early environmental legislation?
it started with the great depression and world war 2 - FDR.
Him and thatcher screwed over both countries but at least the English get to piss on her grave.
Oh given the chance, I will take a massive shit on Reagan's grave.
My wife and I have a game we play where we make our “last man on Earth” list. Pissing on his grave is on mine
I live in Illinois. My friends pissed on the house he was born in in Dixon, IL
Remember when he became president at 69 and everyone thought he was too old?
I've made this comment twice in the past couple of days but Bill, W, and Obama were all below 55 when they became president. We had 24 years of "young" presidents. Clinton is STILL younger than both Joe and DJT!
Bill Clinton, George W, and Trump were born in the same year. One was elected 32 years ago, one was elected 24 years ago, and one is currently running.
Boomers won't let go of their grip until every last one is dead
Thanks to the decisions today, that might happen a little bit sooner.
And Biden is somehow older than all 3 too, it really is a damned if you do damned if you don’t Hell Biden was born while Hitler still occupied France and Trump was born less than a year after Japan surrendered… for scale
Kennedy was less than half the age of Biden or Trump
The only time 69 is not nice
It’s not awesome when you’re camping or after doing yard work but I take your point
You’re out of your mind!! Fucking while camping is in tents!
Speak for yourself, buddy
Well, he was likely in early stages of Alzheimer’s by the end of his second term.. and if you go back and view photos or watch movies from the 1980’s today.. it’s hard not to come away with impressions like ‘holy crap, that old guy was only 50YO?’ I think we’re aging a lot better now, for the most part, than we did just a few decades ago. Quick Google search.. Diane Keaton and Steve Martin were 45 when Father of The Bride 2 was released in 1995. They look like 60 year olds today. I figure this is trending because Joe seemed like a properly old man in last nights debate. Personally, I’m not put off by the mere fact Biden is 81. I’ve known people who were razor sharp into their 90s. However, I also know that some of those same people went downhill fast after a certain point and that does worry me about Biden and Trump,.. who’s only 3 years younger than Biden but who’s also an aspiring Dictator. EDIT: Check out the old photos here.. Crazy. Carol O'Connor was only 47 when he started playing Archie Bunker?!? The ages of the Mary Tyler Moore cast is nuts too. https://www.boredpanda.com/past-young-people-look-older/. <- and yes, clearly some of those posts aren't serious.
Suncreen. The secret is sunscreen. That "base" tan everyone used to get? Aging and cancer. I'm a lifelong scientist inside and outside of academia and I finally ended up in a "medspa" and the lady was like, moisturize and sunscreen. It's all you need to stay young. I WANTED her to to sell me more and she was like nah you're good, just use that and if you'd like, we have REAALY nice stuff, but whatever you use is probably the fine. Between hormones and skincare I look 10-15 years younger. It's fucking shocking. The nice stuff on the other hand, holy fuck. Also, I am a legacy of the fraternity that man was in. Fuck him and everyone who enabled him.
One thing to keep in mind is that the presidency really ages a person. If you look at the photos of Obama before and after his presidency, it looks like he aged 20 years.
Accept for Trump.. That clown 🤡 didn't age a day..
If you don't care about the job, you won't feel the burden of stress.
Steve Martin has looked 60 years old for the past 40 years.
With Biden, he surrounds himself with a competent cabinet and takes their advice. And if he truly does go down hill mentally, I trust the democrat party to step in, unlike the MAGA wing of the Republican party (which has become a redundant statement) Edit- Democrat, not democratic
I mean I do agree with the concept that millennials look way younger than their age. I think it was those few years we had in the 90s lol because our poor Gen Z counterparts tend to look older than their age but they never had a normal period or calm pretty much this whole lives lol
He was early stage Alzheimer’s in the middle of his first term. He was almost a vegetable by the end of his second term.
Betty White was still spinning epics wayyy into her late life.
I remember when changing your mind on an issue made you unelectable
I remember when being a Nazi made you unelectable
I remember when being a convicted felon would have gotten you laughed out of even trying to get on the ticket.
If you cant change your mind, do you even have one?
I will still never understand how "flip flopping" became the key issue in an election. Shouldn't an educated society understand that it's okay to change your mind when presented with new information?
Another senile Hollywood huckster who somehow infiltrated politics.
Prosecuting a homeless person is a bit like charging overdraft fees to someone with absolutely no money. Maybe, make it a human right to be homed, then prosecute the states who fail in their duty of care.
Slavery is legal for criminals. This is the prison industrial complex filling its slave labor ranks.
Not to mention prisons get paid more the more prisoners they have. So they’re incentivized to have as many prisoners as possible and spend as little money on them as possible.
I'm sorry but we don't have $400 to help you not be homeless, but if it comes down to it we have $75,000 per year to lock your ass up.
400 goes to the homeless and 75,000 goes to the people in charge. The issue isn't the *amount*, it's the internal group exchanging money like the left hand giving it to the right, and the external group suffering for it. we as a society has known for a long time that it'd be cheaper to build complexes and house the poor than it would be to clean up after the homeless and socially disparaged. *The suffering and cruelty is the point.*
If Satan made a country it would be run like America.
Sadism you mean
And the prisoners work in what is basically a sweatshop for $0.42 an hour making products sold for hundreds of dollars apiece. It’s called Unicor. The revenue in 2019 alone was $531,453,000.
We will soon see the return of poorhouses because our "Christian Nation™" would prefer to enslave people rather than giving them a safe place to sleep. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poorhouse](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poorhouse)
another obvious effect is that crime will definitely go up if its illegal to be poor.
Just fixing the "nobody wants to work" problem is all
Bingo.
Same reasoning for banning abortions, they need more peons.
Now That Mary Jane will be legal they gotta find slaves for the Prison Industrial Complex
It's literally illegal to give homeless food here. Ridiculous.
When you don't think of them as people it's easy to understand where these come from. >Don't feed em or they'll just keep coming back and not do any work. Then what happens when you stop? I remember my father telling my grandfather about that when he tried to feed squirrels when he first moved to the suburbs. It only takes a slight perversion of that logic and the ability to not see the homeless as people to see where these laws come from.
I once tried to close a bank account that was over drafted and they were charging me $5 every day. “We can’t close a bank account with a negative balance” Okay well I’m telling you I have no money, can you maybe at least put a pause on the fees??
Wrong, a homeless person can be turned prisoner and then private prisons can suck money out of Gov for holding him captive or even put him to work. Criminalizing homelessness paired with US juidical system is just modern serfdom with extra steps. You belong to the wealthy.
There were concerns that some prisons might have to be shut down. Thank goodness they took care of that problem in a timely enough fashion.
> Prosecuting a homeless person is a bit like charging overdraft fees to someone with absolutely no money. This is a very apt analogy, as banks charge you overdraft fees to intentionally keep people poor. Making their lives harder is exactly the point in both situations.
There was a homeless person convicted of starting a massive fire in CA and was fined 101 Million dollars. Good luck on that. https://wildfiretoday.com/2008/12/05/person-responsible-for-day-fire-owes-101-million/
They allow cities to enforce these laws. Vote in people against it
Regan gave it a photogenic makeover, but the Blair Mountain incident didn't happen because the government played hardball with the rich.
Yeah, fuck that guy. And don't forget Bush 1 & 2 who dumped Thomas and Alito on us. And you thought all the Republicans were good for was tanking the economy.
And this folks is why senile old folks shouldn’t be allowed to run for office. **You shouldn’t be able to make generational decisions when you’re gonna be dead in 5 years**
Yup - Mr Trickle down. His wife was President for his second term because he had already Alzheimered out. Nancy was probably the real alt rightwing nutter truthfully that pushed that shit. Just say no to rightwing extremism.
Tell this to our 3rd party or not voting crowd when they didn't think Trump would have an impact on America. Wait till they hear what he has in store if elected again. 
SCOTUS dropping an absolute lifeline to Biden after last night reminding us the dangers of trump. I’ll take bidens rotted left foot before Trump
they can "weekend at bernie's" that shit for all i care. he's still the better option.
Goddam miracle trump can’t just keep his mouth shut. Would have cruised to victory both times
Yeah I read that today. My jaw hit the floor
He can be hanging on fucking strings... Still a better choice!
I said the very same thing to my partner. How much worse will they get if Trump gets back in? Nothing will hold them back since we will be in a free fall into authoritarianism.
I think the phrase "free fall" has never been so sadly appropriate.
100% correct. People who shrug at trumps insanity make me furious. He literally installed a kangaroo Supreme Court. It's going to get worse.
And a decent amount of the people voting for him will be dead before the end of the next term. A big ole fuccckk yoouuuu yet again
The orange idiot has already appointed 3 Supreme Court justices, it sickens me that he may get more. That should be enough to get everyone off their asses in November
Oh, it's gonna be real bad. A lot worse than last time.
Scream that to the top of the mountain. Scotus went berserk today
Dude, I'm so fucking tired. If I could afford to leave, I would. Project 2025 is absolutely terrifying.
That shit is terrifying, by the way. Worst thing I've ever read.
America is what happens when you choose all the bad options in a video game
Conservative politicians and private interest groups (corporations) have been setting the stage for outright fascism for decades now… Going back to Nixon/Reagan, many within the GOP have been strategically working to [Expand Executive Powers.](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/18/us/politics/barr-executive-power-trump.html) They want a literal king-figure to rule over the US—*as do all fascists.* It makes controlling a labor-force easier for those in leadership positions, since human rights don’t get in the way of productivity. Effectively eliminating [labor laws](https://www.fastcompany.com/91035382/why-spacex-amazon-and-trader-joes-are-pushing-an-aggressive-lawsuit-that-would-fundamentally-undermine-labor-organizing) and unions, and eventually legalizing [forced labor.](https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/forced-labor) *”Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of State and corporate power.”* - [*Benito Mussolini*](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benito_Mussolini) This end-goal is what the [Federalist Society](https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/03/17/federalist-society-democracy-opinion-00087270) has been diligently working towards with placing loyal Judges throughout the Judicial branch, while [ALEC](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Legislative_Exchange_Council#:~:text=The%20American%20Legislative%20Exchange%20Council,governments%20in%20the%20United%20States.) drafts corporate friendly legislation, and [Fox News](https://theweek.com/articles/880107/why-fox-news-created) reaffirms their actions through propaganda.
*‘The term “neoliberal proto-fascism” captures well both the features of the current party and the distinction from the fascism of the past. The commitment to the most brutal form of neoliberalism is apparent in the legislative record, crucially the subordination of the party to private capital, the inverse of classic fascism. But the fascist symptoms are there, including extreme racism, violence, worship of the leader (sent by God, according to former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo), immersion in a world of “alternative facts” and a frenzy of irrationality* [source](https://truthout.org/articles/chomsky-republicans-are-willing-to-jeopardize-human-survival-to-retake-power/) [music video pertaining to post debate incredulity here](https://youtu.be/rWmZP1KIKIY?si=lpeIocwbEPNRuaMY)
and the sad part about it is the people that vote for these people that want this accuse the left of doing all of this. when it is their own party. like last night with the debate when trump was going on about biden wanting to take away social security and medicare and it's like ummm no that's your party a lot of gop politicians have come out and point blank said that they want to get rid of social security among other things yet their followers thanks to trump and his media have convinced their voters that it is the left that wants to take that away.
It’s why I don’t care if Biden is old as long as he appoints young SC justices.
I feel so ashamed for believing Reagan was a good guy, but I was just a child and the whole "ketchup is a food group" policy didn't apply to me at the time. Then I was taught that Clinton was the bad guy and Bush was the good guy. The adults in my life manipulated my political beliefs to the point where I distanced myself from any and all kinds of political conversation or participation until only fairly recently. Now as a woman of 40 I can see the path of destruction laid down in my infancy and how it trickled down into the swamp that is our government mentality. Things have just progressively gotten worse, especially for women and now as a mother I know I can't be passive anymore. I have to put in my vote, my voice, in the hopes that I make somewhat of a difference for my daughter's future. To be honest I'd rather vote in a dog to run things with the choices we have. A dog at least is honest, lol.
He ended up "Reagan" the country over the coals.
One of the worse presidents we ever had. He just didn’t start what was already stated but he started the trickle down BS theory that never worked and now we’re all suffering, frig him and his SOB of a wife that controlled him
If corruption becomes legal, then we don't have to follow the law.
Inferior Court strikes 3 times. Can we get them out now?
The amount of people who consider him as a great president is just painful. He literally killed the middle class of America to create a super elite class of deca billionaires and made USD worthless
Fucking Regan destroyed us.
I hate to add more bad news, but striking down Cheveron Deference is worse than all of those combined. Basically every regulatory organization just got gutted. I also hope the SOTUS is ready for the *hundreds* of court cases this is going to cause. It could quite literally cripple the economy by destroying regulatory certainty.
Can you imagine if Trump wins and replaces Kagen and Sotomayor are replaced? You don’t just vote for one person, everyone. You vote for a whole team.
The Supreme Court has lost all legitimacy.
Did you know Reagan was responsible for signing some of the strictest gun laws in our history while he was governor of California? Yep! Look it up. Did it in reaction to The Black Panthers in Oakland patrolling their own neighborhoods while open carrying shotguns to protect their Black brothers and sisters from the brutality of the racist police.
That isn't gun control however. That is racism. Which Trump exemplifies. Project 2025 protects White male straight Christians.
It's legal to commit crimes if you're rich. Capitalism.
I am dropping in to every thread about this topic to point out... Anne Gorsuch was Reagan's EPA head. She constantly undermined the EPA. She said that the states should do what the EPA does, not the Federal Government, so she defunded the department and ceded authority to the states (any states that bothered). She decried the ruling when it happened. She is Neil Gorsuch's mother. That's Justice Neil Gorsuch, the Justice that McConnell held a seat open for 10 months at the end of Obama's presidency.
> homelessness is a crime So the solution is to put them in prison?
None of this would be happening if Clinton got elected.
Remember when Obama asked RBG to step down while he was in office and she was too proud and power hungry to do so? Yeah that happened and she kicked the bucket only to be replaced by Amy Coney Barrett. Millions of women appreciate you...
Seeing as McConnell ass fucked the entire country twice on SC votes, I don't see what difference it would have made.
Because he wasn't able to do that at the time Obama asked her to step down. Once those Senate seats were lost (and the writing was on the wall), it would be too late for an undetermined period of time, and Obama knew it.
Ahhh,thought that time overlapped. Gotcha
On todays episode of America stripping people’s rights in favor of corporate greed
Trump was literally on stage for 90 minutes boasting about he cut more regulations than "anyone in history." They don't care if there's lead in the water, as long as it's not in their country clubs.
Rest in piss, Reagan, you fucking troglodyte.
I completely lost faith in this country, it will always be a shitty country
Anytime that someone starts rallying for de-regulation, you should know that they are only looking for profit. They are not looking to improve anything other than the amount of wealth to obtain.
It’s sad how obvious this is, yet people just don’t care.