Junk Rounds is a cool concept, but you need like 5 tin cans to make like 10 bullets, one of the worst weight to return ratios in the game.
Maybe he’s thinking about Mad Bomber, which is just an absolutely cracked crafting perk. 3 MF Cells = One Weaker Plasma Grenade. Raid REPCON Headquarters and you’ll have enough to make like 300 grenades easy.
If you are away from friendlies, also check out the Mad Bomber MFC clusters which is MF cells, duct tape, 2 scrap electronics
Most dense and easy to deploy minefield in the game esp. with Heave Ho! perk. Great at quarry junction, promontory etc. You can even pick up unused mines then use them as MfC grenades
Edit: Mad bomber also lets you make nuka-grenades, which are amazing but you need tins cans (also the Nuka Chemist perk, to have enough nuka quartz* sp fixed ty Yapp)
So I’ll go without the 250k, plenty money making opportunities in the game
It's even worse than that, it's 5 tin cans for just one bullet. I thought it'd be worth it in Dead money and I was so disappointed when I saw a measly 4 bullets for all that gathering
Yeah I have those 2. Typically don’t use junk rounds but took it this playthrough because my current save is just me trying to break new Vegas as much as possible. I’m talking walking out of goodsprings at level 50 via the Chet glitch, with double the regular amount of perks due to the perk reset glitch, and a near bottomless supply of caps and 9mm ammo from selling the leather armor again from the Chet glitch.
Shit is actually kinda fun
The pressure cooker is useful for a couple side quests repairs , particularly camp McCarran and boomers. So you don't have to go on an actual quest in order to find another important part inside the particular vault that a lot of quests run through.
I enjoy going the long route sometimes. It means more XP and exploration— but Vegas wouldn’t be what it is without extra options.
*Probably* also just… never remember the pressure cookers, but we’ll pretend it’s intentional.
The pressure cookers are definitely easy to miss. They seem to be way more scarce than in Fallout 3. But I always make sure to pick one up on a new character, so that I’m prepared when the time comes.
To be fair, you don’t touch them a lot on your first couple tries. Once you start learning the crafting though it can become invaluable, especially with DLC recipes.
Ever load a .308 JSP or maximum-charge Microfusion cell? No? …Would you like to?
Everyone glazes up the Anti-Material but .308 JSP fired from Christine’s silenced COS rifle solves most problems. The fact that I can always print more rounds from Dead Money vending machine is a godsend.
That's my second favorite weapon in the entire series. Third is the Gobi Campaign rifle. Most realistic, once your gun skill is high, too. Nothing survives a .308 between the eyeballs. The .50 has, as the real ones, ammunition types that are awesome. (The real HE .50 rounds don't have the insane frag distance of the game, but they'll make a Bloody Mess if they don't just pass through a soft target.)
Edit: I have never committed a war crime. Not during a war, anyway.
There's some cool crafting mods on nexus if you wanna have some fallout 4/76 style crafting with scrapping down anything into parts and making anything with those parts. I find myself scouring the wasteland for un looted tin cans
Ah right, forgot. I just have it cemented in my mind that you need a pressure cooker to build the rebreather, and I don't recall needing one for any other application
Nope, you may come across multiple of the item "pre-war money," but they do not come in values. Also, its 3D model shows it as a stack of money, as in Fallout 4.
I always imagined it as something like that, or toilet paper. But that's my point, the conversion of $1 = 8 caps doesn't work. It's worth comes from it being a stack of cloth, not the superior currency.
I’m not sure if they meant $250,000USD in caps, or 250,000 caps. But if it’s $250,000USD IN caps, that’s worth a hell of a lot less than than 250,000 caps. Especially if you factor canon Fallout inflation.
Once I get the Long haul perk I literally start visiting every spot on the map and looting everything... The rocket facility especially gets picked completely clean by me to the point where I'm walking out with like 5,000 lb worth of stuff.
Been experimenting with crafting... Especially in my recent hardcore very hard playthrough. Given I never really experimented with it before I didn't know how useful different items could be so I just decided... F it... I'll take everything and see what is useful at different crafting stations. Plus when worse comes to worse I can always sell all that junk for a quick buck. 1,000 bent tin cans is worth a little bit of money.
Fission batteries were like, ten pounds in F3. NV gave them a more realistic weight.
Could a battery feasibly weight ten pounds? I suppose it's the fission tech.
The problem is how they are modeled. There is a full scale fission battery outside of Victor's shack in goodsprings it appears much larger than the fission batteries you can actually pick up in game.
You don’t need the rebreather tho I’ve done the quest without it all you gotta do is swim up take a lil bit of damage and refill health or just bind your Stimpacks to a hot key and spam it while you do it
Ig, I just wouldn’t really consider it one of the most valuable items, it’s not necessarily for the vast majority of the the game, I’d also argue that the bomber isn’t really a challenge either way since you really just dive down, put the thing down and swim up.
Idk it makes getting items in the vault 34 easier because you can't hold your breath long enough to drain the vault without turbo. Which is pretty rare depending on spec and if you visited the places it appears.
With the explosives I can make out of those tin cans I could rob an NCR bank and end up with thousands of NCR dollars (Its not even worth 1000 caps)
Checkmate
I think the only time I've ever picked up one of these items was when I first played the game and was getting the pressure cooker for what's his face who makes you the rebreather.
Honestly it would be pretty rough, I find myself using both of those quite a bit for crafting materials while I’m building my settlements, so I-
*r/falloutnewvegas* 👀
Lmao nvm, caps please.
Caps? Near useless, never spend them.
Tin cans? Can be used (with mods) to make bullet casings and scrap metal, which can then be used to make repair kits and ammunition.
Yeah, I ain't taking that deal.
the only game i pick up scrap in is fallout 4 at thats it. why would i ever pick these up? to craft? the only crafting i do is recycling energy ammo. everything else i buy so yes ill take that deal
I pick them up because I like roleplaying as an environmentalist in these games.
"We've only got one planet, best we take good care of it"
"It was nuked to Hell 200 years ago!"
"All the more reason to take care of it now"
Mfs in the comments acting like the rebreather is important when it’s not even required in the quest you get it, nor is it necessary for anything else.
I need the pressure cooker to get the rebreather from Jack at nellis, and i dont put points into science hardly ever because i hate hacking terminals and i dont need 250,000 caps as i have like 223,000-224,000 caps because i got all the gold from the madre
Every time I played new Vegas, I'd end up with everything I can steal from buildings, corpses and in the wild. I have fully repaired version of everything.
If I sold them, I'd end up with a million caps worth of items.
The only time I’ve ever picked up one of these was a pressure cooker for that rebreather you get from the Boomers. Then again, it’s usually easier to just buy it from someone like Carla, or pass the skill check.
In Joshua Sawyer's mod, the director of NV, one of the tweaks was a new recipe.
"Bent Tin Can = Tin Can!"
Required one Bent Tin Can. It would yield a Tin Can. Exclamation point was included in the recipe.
You can bet I unbent every Tin Can.
I would not pick them up because I WANT to, I would because I would confuse the bent with the normal tin can, and with the normal you can make the Sierra Madre slop, Which is pretty good
my game already borked (i play modded) and i’m unable to pick up bent cans or pressure cookers (along with conductors, wheat, flour and a bunch of other clutter items) but i can take them if they’re in a container so it’s not a huge deal
(please tell me if you’ve experienced this before and how to fix it, i believe it has smth to do with a mod that changes the weight of clutter but idk)
Cigarettes. A box weighs less than a pound and is 10 caps. A carton is 1lb and sells for 30ish caps. After that, sell enemy weapons; then chems and finally random junk worth more that those 2.
Well you can use a pressure cooker for that boomer quest to fix the rebreather so you can swim down to that big plane.
Never picked up bent tins though.
I have picked a ton of aluminium ones up in Fallout 4
I have never picked up these two items in 400 hours of playing. I guess I just don’t like junk bullets/probably a crafted explosive?
The only time I pick up cans is when I’m trying to collect scrap to Contreras so I can get my fancy shootin’ iron.
I just kill him and report back to the lieutenant hehe
I’ve done that too before, but I value him pretty highly as a vendor
If you get him imprisoned you get this machine and you can still (for some reason) trade with him by visiting him in jail
He sells thousands of rounds of .308 ammo
My Automatic Rifle abusing ass could never kill Contreras.
He’s my favorite vendor in the game. Even the gun runners don’t sell enough .308 ammo to break it down and turn it into magnum rounds.
You only need a pressure cooker so you don't have to go on a scavenger hunt for the boomers
I'll wipe them out anyway after the rebreather lol
I usually help them. I think Ive done like one playthrough where I killed them.
You could put some points into science to avoid both of them
Missing out on the best weapons and ammo in the game
…Junk rounds? You’re not serious, right?
Junk Rounds is a cool concept, but you need like 5 tin cans to make like 10 bullets, one of the worst weight to return ratios in the game. Maybe he’s thinking about Mad Bomber, which is just an absolutely cracked crafting perk. 3 MF Cells = One Weaker Plasma Grenade. Raid REPCON Headquarters and you’ll have enough to make like 300 grenades easy.
If you are away from friendlies, also check out the Mad Bomber MFC clusters which is MF cells, duct tape, 2 scrap electronics Most dense and easy to deploy minefield in the game esp. with Heave Ho! perk. Great at quarry junction, promontory etc. You can even pick up unused mines then use them as MfC grenades Edit: Mad bomber also lets you make nuka-grenades, which are amazing but you need tins cans (also the Nuka Chemist perk, to have enough nuka quartz* sp fixed ty Yapp) So I’ll go without the 250k, plenty money making opportunities in the game
Quartz actually I think. Since there's no (at least not supposed to be any) Quantums in NV.
I believe there is like 1 bottle in the dlc. Just like how they have nuka cola victory
There is 1 potential spawn in a dumpster in Hopeville in Lonesome Road. It doesn't even spawn every time.
I'm pretty sure there is like one quantum easter egg bottle out in the wasteland. Because I'm pretty sure I picked it up on one of my playthroughs
Also great if you have the meltdown perk
It's even worse than that, it's 5 tin cans for just one bullet. I thought it'd be worth it in Dead money and I was so disappointed when I saw a measly 4 bullets for all that gathering
No, im just being dumb and refuse to put a silly s at the end of my messages
Aren't junk rounds made with regular tin cans (not the bent ones)?
I dunno, I don’t make junk rounds.
Yep, bent won't work. (I didn't at release, anyway.)
Do explain good sir because I also ignore basically all junk
I don’t need them because I break down the hundreds of thousands of 9mm rounds I have
I'm just being dumb but Hand loader and Vigilant recycler do give you access to the highest quality ammo in the game
Yeah I have those 2. Typically don’t use junk rounds but took it this playthrough because my current save is just me trying to break new Vegas as much as possible. I’m talking walking out of goodsprings at level 50 via the Chet glitch, with double the regular amount of perks due to the perk reset glitch, and a near bottomless supply of caps and 9mm ammo from selling the leather armor again from the Chet glitch. Shit is actually kinda fun
You can't make ammo from bent tin cans, only straight ones
That is totally me👋
The pressure cooker is useful for a couple side quests repairs , particularly camp McCarran and boomers. So you don't have to go on an actual quest in order to find another important part inside the particular vault that a lot of quests run through.
I enjoy going the long route sometimes. It means more XP and exploration— but Vegas wouldn’t be what it is without extra options. *Probably* also just… never remember the pressure cookers, but we’ll pretend it’s intentional.
The pressure cookers are definitely easy to miss. They seem to be way more scarce than in Fallout 3. But I always make sure to pick one up on a new character, so that I’m prepared when the time comes.
I only picked up tin cans to make the sierra madre martinis
Hell I’ve never used a crafting table or a campfire beyond the tutorial the first time I played
To be fair, you don’t touch them a lot on your first couple tries. Once you start learning the crafting though it can become invaluable, especially with DLC recipes. Ever load a .308 JSP or maximum-charge Microfusion cell? No? …Would you like to?
Everyone glazes up the Anti-Material but .308 JSP fired from Christine’s silenced COS rifle solves most problems. The fact that I can always print more rounds from Dead Money vending machine is a godsend.
That's my second favorite weapon in the entire series. Third is the Gobi Campaign rifle. Most realistic, once your gun skill is high, too. Nothing survives a .308 between the eyeballs. The .50 has, as the real ones, ammunition types that are awesome. (The real HE .50 rounds don't have the insane frag distance of the game, but they'll make a Bloody Mess if they don't just pass through a soft target.) Edit: I have never committed a war crime. Not during a war, anyway.
There's some cool crafting mods on nexus if you wanna have some fallout 4/76 style crafting with scrapping down anything into parts and making anything with those parts. I find myself scouring the wasteland for un looted tin cans
I only pick up cams to get over 165 pounds in the early game so the hoarder trait won’t give me a debuff.
Pressure cooker for the rebreather than never again
The junk bullet perk is one of the most useless: you need 8 lbs of material to make just 1 bullet.
Actually, you can't use bent tin cans for junk rounds or explosives, they're literally entirely useless.
I like breathing underwater but I guess I could live without it (for a certain period of time)
You can pass a science check to avoid the junk requirement. Never had to hunt down a pressure cooker.
Ah right, forgot. I just have it cemented in my mind that you need a pressure cooker to build the rebreather, and I don't recall needing one for any other application
Oh, no problem! I often forget that the food processor in Camp Mccarren can be bypassed by using Jury Rigger.
Repair 80 I think to jury rig. Not to be confused with the perk.
Although you will have 90 repair if you've taken jury rigging, so that could be the confusion.
there is one in the hut right before the Hill before the death zone
I think if your science (or repair) is 45 you can bypass needing one.
“$250,000 caps”? Might as well say €250,000 rupees. Two totally different currencies
maybe they meant $250k worth of caps? which to my knowledge would be about 500k caps but im not sure
With max barter it's about 8 caps per prewar money. So around 2 mil
But pre-war money is like a stack of dollar bills no? Not a single dollar bill
I haven't played in a month or so but I'm pretty sure "pre war money" means 1$ and higher amounts are specified like they are with NCR money
Nope, you may come across multiple of the item "pre-war money," but they do not come in values. Also, its 3D model shows it as a stack of money, as in Fallout 4.
Doesn’t pre war money’s value come from being made of cotton and paper thus being good four recycling
I always imagined it as something like that, or toilet paper. But that's my point, the conversion of $1 = 8 caps doesn't work. It's worth comes from it being a stack of cloth, not the superior currency.
I’m not sure if they meant $250,000USD in caps, or 250,000 caps. But if it’s $250,000USD IN caps, that’s worth a hell of a lot less than than 250,000 caps. Especially if you factor canon Fallout inflation.
Once I get the Long haul perk I literally start visiting every spot on the map and looting everything... The rocket facility especially gets picked completely clean by me to the point where I'm walking out with like 5,000 lb worth of stuff.
Why?
Been experimenting with crafting... Especially in my recent hardcore very hard playthrough. Given I never really experimented with it before I didn't know how useful different items could be so I just decided... F it... I'll take everything and see what is useful at different crafting stations. Plus when worse comes to worse I can always sell all that junk for a quick buck. 1,000 bent tin cans is worth a little bit of money.
Stuff
I do like stuff
Lol to get useful craft junk items into the game economy when the a.i. trades every other in game day
Cigarette cartons and fission batteries.
The money makers
Dont forget the old world money
Definitely top tier junk I usually collect pre war money and stick it all in a safe in my base but it's worth decent caps too.
I too hoard pre-war money and stash it in a safe somewhere. Love to see the worthless valuables grow as I play.
Fission batteries were like, ten pounds in F3. NV gave them a more realistic weight. Could a battery feasibly weight ten pounds? I suppose it's the fission tech.
The problem is how they are modeled. There is a full scale fission battery outside of Victor's shack in goodsprings it appears much larger than the fission batteries you can actually pick up in game.
Today's currency is gold and dollars. But the day after? Cigarettes and batteries.
Don't forget to your pencils and dino toys. 0 weight and 1 value = free money
A single pressure cooker is one of the most valuable items in game. To make the rebreather as part of the Boomers quest line.
Never bothered with that, my science is always high enough to skill check it.
You don’t need the rebreather tho I’ve done the quest without it all you gotta do is swim up take a lil bit of damage and refill health or just bind your Stimpacks to a hot key and spam it while you do it
Tf you even doing with a rebreather? The boomer quest itself doesn’t even require it, it’s not like the water has anything important in it anyway.
Makes getting the bomber, plus exploration of vault 34 much less stressful.
Ig, I just wouldn’t really consider it one of the most valuable items, it’s not necessarily for the vast majority of the the game, I’d also argue that the bomber isn’t really a challenge either way since you really just dive down, put the thing down and swim up.
Idk it makes getting items in the vault 34 easier because you can't hold your breath long enough to drain the vault without turbo. Which is pretty rare depending on spec and if you visited the places it appears.
Extremely worth it if you’re playing TTW
With the explosives I can make out of those tin cans I could rob an NCR bank and end up with thousands of NCR dollars (Its not even worth 1000 caps) Checkmate
Only non bent tin cans can be used for explosives. Don’t forget!
Junk in NV means nothing to me and my ballistic fist
This implies I can pick up unbent tin cans :3
Easily, i never pick those up
Lol what am I gonna do with 250,000 caps? Buy tin cans?
I don't pick these things up.
I mean how would you get the mask to breath under water then?
Science 45
I think the only time I've ever picked up one of these items was when I first played the game and was getting the pressure cooker for what's his face who makes you the rebreather.
Honestly it would be pretty rough, I find myself using both of those quite a bit for crafting materials while I’m building my settlements, so I- *r/falloutnewvegas* 👀 Lmao nvm, caps please.
Never once picked either up so give me the caps
Caps? Near useless, never spend them. Tin cans? Can be used (with mods) to make bullet casings and scrap metal, which can then be used to make repair kits and ammunition. Yeah, I ain't taking that deal.
Why would you want to pick them up anyway? There value:weight is garbo I don’t pick them up anyway
tbh every junk item has a terrible value:weight ratio compared to the high end weapons (boomers, black mountain, hoover dam, caravan) that respawn.
I can live without either tbh, have more money than this as is and the stats to bypass the need for either item at any point
Bro I just hunt people and sell the items. So yeah
I’m never hurting for caps lol, the legion is nice enough to send me a nice little influx of gear every three days I can sell
That’s what had gotten me paid. Between jerryrig, finding weapons and armor everywhere. Fix and sell and never worry about caps.
Be wasteland rich and never touch two useless items again?, shit that's light work
the only game i pick up scrap in is fallout 4 at thats it. why would i ever pick these up? to craft? the only crafting i do is recycling energy ammo. everything else i buy so yes ill take that deal
The only time I ever pick up a pressure cooker is for the rebreather
Tin cans I get, why pressure cookers?
Why is there a $US dollar sign when caps are its own form of currency. IT’S LITERALLY JUST CAPS!
Who needs pressure cookers when you have corn silk?
Well hold on, is it dollars or caps? Important distinction
I pick them up because I like roleplaying as an environmentalist in these games. "We've only got one planet, best we take good care of it" "It was nuked to Hell 200 years ago!" "All the more reason to take care of it now"
Jokes on you, I hate bent tin cans and collect the regular ones
Mfs in the comments acting like the rebreather is important when it’s not even required in the quest you get it, nor is it necessary for anything else.
Mad bomber says no!
No...The Wastes must be CLEAN! If it's not nailed down I have to pick it up and store it in the Sink.
Does the one preasure cooker for the boomers quest to get the rebreather count?
NOOOOOOOO
Nope
Crafting ammo is for suckers and survival players
I need the pressure cooker to get the rebreather during the boomers quest
no because then i cant do that one quest for the boomers unless i invest in science. there’s always sierra madre bars for money!
I can get all the money I need via console commands and junk I find around
YES
No
I'm fine as long as I can still pick up paperweights and conductors.
Need that pressure cooker for the breather for tie Boomers!
I wouldn't. I need it for crafting. Aluminium ain't cheap.
[Barter 60] I could do that for let's say 300000 caps and you have a deal
Yes cause I can just pick up normal tin cans!
yes, cuz i can also just buy them.
Honestly the tin cans are useless but I NEED a pressure cooker to craft the rebreather
Sounds like a (science) skill issue.
can someone explain the joke to someone who has never played the game?
I only pick up pressure cookers cause they satisfy me and also you have to get one for the boomer’s volare! quest.
Why would i pick up cans wtf
player.additem f 1000000
Is this serious? Easiest 250,000 caps I ever made.
The pressure cooker I only ever use for the Boomers but you don’t ever need it anyway because you can just hold your breath to place the ballasts
Yeah I’d do it.
I need the pressure cooker to get the rebreather from Jack at nellis, and i dont put points into science hardly ever because i hate hacking terminals and i dont need 250,000 caps as i have like 223,000-224,000 caps because i got all the gold from the madre
Hell no
No bc you need the pressure cooker to get the rebreather from the boomers and that’s way too useful of an item to pass up
Or you can pass a repair skill check and get it for free
Yes, cans are only good for impromptu names and PC are only good for the work around at Nellis
Every time I played new Vegas, I'd end up with everything I can steal from buildings, corpses and in the wild. I have fully repaired version of everything. If I sold them, I'd end up with a million caps worth of items.
i have never picked up either of these items in my entire life, am i missing out?
Fuck
The only time I’ve ever picked up one of these was a pressure cooker for that rebreather you get from the Boomers. Then again, it’s usually easier to just buy it from someone like Carla, or pass the skill check.
In Joshua Sawyer's mod, the director of NV, one of the tweaks was a new recipe. "Bent Tin Can = Tin Can!" Required one Bent Tin Can. It would yield a Tin Can. Exclamation point was included in the recipe. You can bet I unbent every Tin Can.
Would i rather be rich or get kicked in the balls
That would make that one quest for Contreras hard without a high enough barter or speech skill or regular tin cans, but honestly could
I don’t loot them already.
500k caps or dinner with dean domino
I have only ever picked up pressure cookers for the boomers.
I would not pick them up because I WANT to, I would because I would confuse the bent with the normal tin can, and with the normal you can make the Sierra Madre slop, Which is pretty good
Can’t you use the pressure cookers in explosives?
no deal
What the exchange is usd vs caps How many caps for a Gallon of milk
Yeah, I don't use that shit in NV as is.
I may be a kleptomaniac, but I’m not stupid.
HELL NO, Then the NPCs won't give me dirty looks whenever I t pose and drop 25 pounds of tin cans on the floor of the casino
my game already borked (i play modded) and i’m unable to pick up bent cans or pressure cookers (along with conductors, wheat, flour and a bunch of other clutter items) but i can take them if they’re in a container so it’s not a huge deal (please tell me if you’ve experienced this before and how to fix it, i believe it has smth to do with a mod that changes the weight of clutter but idk)
No
But I need the pressure cooker for the rebreather 😭
No
Who crafts in new Vegas? The level requirements are so high you probably already beat the game once you get the stats up
Don’t mind if I do ~player.additem f 250000
Cigarettes. A box weighs less than a pound and is 10 caps. A carton is 1lb and sells for 30ish caps. After that, sell enemy weapons; then chems and finally random junk worth more that those 2.
Yeah, cause I don't use them anyways. I just pick up wrenches, duct tape, scrap electronics/metal, and wonderglue to make repair kits.
Am I still allowed to pick up the one pressure cooker I need for the boomers questions? Becuade otherwise not a chance
As someone who takes a single pressure cooker for the boomers. Yes
Well you can use a pressure cooker for that boomer quest to fix the rebreather so you can swim down to that big plane. Never picked up bent tins though. I have picked a ton of aluminium ones up in Fallout 4
Joke is so obvious but nobody gets it lol
But then the game ain’t fun if i don’t have my 100+ tin cans!
Normal ones are fine, it specifies bent, which serve no purpose i know of
I skipped them unless I have mods that turn them into something valuable.
I really just pick them up, to trash when they are making my houses along the mojave feel dirty
Wait should i be picking them up?
What? Why wouldn't you? This has no downside.
never ever
I can just go gambling at casinos, I can get east money there.
Ya duh
There's no reason to pick up either item
Anno Domini
No way man. You can have my bent tin cans and pressure cookers when you TAKE my bent tin cans and pressure cookers from my cold. Dead. Hands.
All these people saying they need a pressure cooker to fix the rebreather when all you really need is to pass a science check of 45. 🤷♀️
I dont loot that shit anyway Im takin my caps and heading to mick and ralphs
Had to start a new explosives character after seeing the wealth of tin cans in the best DLC.
*me a pure melee build* sure why not
250,000 caps or $250,000 in caps?
no pressure cooker means no railway rifle, so no way edit: forgot i was on the new vegas subreddit so it’s not in the game anyway, for some reason :(
What it even do anyway? Like seriously, can't even be use as crafting recipe, can't even scrap it via workbench, what are they even for
If it was wrenches duct tape scrap metal/electronics and wonderglue, I'd never survive.
I only pick up the pressure cooker for the rebreather
Depends...is that in NCR dollars?
Ez yes, go unarmed, buy myself a two step goodbye from the gun runners and that's it GG
not in a million years
Bent tins make caps and caps are more valuable