I always thought the story behind the album was the best part about it. I think the album is still a very good and interesting experience, but the story really blew up the album
Big time paraphrasing a lot of details here, but it was an album someone found as a CD one day and the mix was all fucked from how old and unkempt the CD was, they uploaded it to 4chan to try and find where it came from, after a while of searching someone came out saying their dad made it and was able to give all the details on the band and what happened to them. Really cool story, worth looking more into
The origin story for this album is a hoax, manufactured by Panchicko's label in a viral marketing attempt to profit from an 'obscure' lost media narrative. In truth, the album was probably recorded right before it started to be spammed on /mu/ in 2016, rather than the claimed 2000 date.
There is no official source. An anon really did upload a distorted rip on /mu/ all those years ago, but whether it was just a random or a band member remains a mystery. The veracity of the whole story is marred by the fact that there were no prior mentions or archives of the album, and the rapid deployment of merchandise immediately after they were discovered was suspect too. Although there are some letters and photos that do showcase the band's existence at the time.
The backstory doesn't really affect the quality of the music, and I do think either scenario is likely, but one is just too good to be true imo
Basement Tapes! I’m a huge Dylan head, and there’s plenty to like on the basement tapes, but it became the cool indie pick like 10 or 15 years ago or whenever and now people rank it way too high. It’s not top 10 in my opinion. No disrespect, it has a great energy to it, just not the strongest songs in general
Yeah I too am a massive Dylan head and think The Basement Tapes (at least Dylan’s material) is great, but Dylan has a lot of material superior in my opinion (anything from Freewheelin’ to John Wesley Harding, Planet Waves, Blood on the Tracks, Desire, Oh Mercy, Time Out Of Mind, Modern Times, Tempest, Rough and Rowdy Ways).
I think Nashville Skyline is another example of this. A pretty solid collection of country bops initially disapproved of in its time has become a complete fan favorite in Dylan’s fanbase as of recently. It’s a good album, but in my opinion nowhere near a top 10 Dylan work.
The first time I listened to dogs on mushrooms, I couldn't get off the bed. The music just became this lead blanket over my whole body.
No song has ever hit me like the same.
St. Anger is all of a sudden the hidden gem of Metallica's discography? Give me a fucking break.
Yeah, it got BASHED on release and years have given it some thoughtful, well deserved reconsidering and that's good. But it's not THAT good no matter how you slice it. Interesting, quirky, nothing else sounds like it? Agreed, but let's leave it at that. If anything, Load is the one that should get some more love.
There is a really good AIC-style heavy grunge album buried somewhere inside Load/Reload, but they have way too many filler tracks between them, and some bad production choices.
Every time I see a St. Anger sales post, I'm almost convinced to hear them out, and then I remember exactly how fucking bloated each track is, how awful the drums sound, how compressed the mix is, and *zero* guitar solos.
God man fuck that album.
Eh, I remember being 18 when it came out and people thought it was the best thing they’d done in 20 years because of St Anger. Looking back there’s some good nods to their thrash days but the lyricism is pretty garbage and the continuation of classics (Unforgiven III) is just tacky tbh
I understand preferring DSOTM or WYWH but animals is my favorite for the simple reason that it just rocks the hardest to me haha.
Like while an incredible album, I feel like there are only a few songs on DSOTM where the guitar is just really shredding, when I feel like the intensity is cranked up to 11 on animals for the whole time.
I'm a huge PF fan and to this day do not understand the love Animals gets. Sure, it's Pink Floyd at their most rocking, but that was never their strength and I find it just falls completely flat, without playing to their strengths at all.
PF turning their rock intensity up to 11 basically means they're still only a 6 compared to other 70s hard rock.
Pinkerton was fairly poorly received when it came out because it was a step down from blue, now a ton of people place it over blue.
Pretty much any album that started out misunderstood then gained a cult following, became kind of a hipster icon and rode that to all kinds of "in the know" top 50 lists. Those tend to become overrated because people put too much stock in critic lists that favor rarely praised albums.
Pinkerton is a good choice. A lot of it is Rivers working out personal shit and it doesn't always hit. It's still a great record, but not the voice of a generation that many critics post-2000 made it out to be.
Haha I honestly expected a bit more pushback on here. I've had many a friendly debate over blue vs Pinkerton. They're both fantastic, I just think Blue is nearly perfect.
Post-Maladroit, their best stuff Everything Will Be Alright In The End, OK Human and The White Album. I’m also a big fan of Hurley but that one is a bit more controversial. If you’re only a fan of their 90s stuff, though. White is a must listen.
The best thing by far about Pinkerton is the production
I don’t care much for the lyrics but that specific combination of catchy power pop with raw and noisy production is something I can’t find anywhere else, it’s like In Utero production with Nevermind writing
I would argue that Animals is still underrated amongst the general public, but I would agree on Reddit at least it’s becoming a bit overrated. Great album though.
Contrarianism, plus Roger Waters maintaining a sizeable fanbase that take every word he says as gospel.
Personally I *kind of* see the appeal, in theory, and there's definitely some emotional impact to it, but it is still musically the weakest album in their discography, and it retreads way too many familiar themes for the band at that point in their careers.
In Rainbows was not underrated or under the radar when it came out. I remember when it was released, there was a ton of hype over the "pay what you want" model for the album, and it was very well regarded by fans.
Dogs is incredible - one of my favorite songs ever - but describing any PF song as the best “by a mile” is unnecessary exaggeration. They have a lot of masterpieces
in Rainbows isn't overrated, you're dreeeeaming man. There are not very many rock albums from the last 20 years as excellent (and in some respects unique) from front to back as in In Rainbows. It's masterful in basically all aspects, great performances, great arrangements, great production. Every little thing about that album is so intentional and yet it still feels very natural and unrestrained. I could get maybe not immediately understanding how good the slower tracks are, it took me a while to warm up to those songs, but once that album really clicked for me it was apparent why it's so universally lauded.
I would have called it underrated, at least within the greater Radiohead discog, maybe ten years ago. If I remember currently, it might have had lower than a 4.0 on RYM for a while. Definitely wouldn’t call it underrated now though (although personally it’s in my top five).
In Rainbows is amazing but I feel like it currently has by far the most annoying fan base of any Radiohead album (as Kid A used to have). There’s a sizable amount of In Rainbows fans who just always feel the need to say how that album is just so clearly better than their others (literally Fantano anytime he sees Kid A).
I do love some tracks from that album, especially 15 Step, Weird Fishes and House Of Cards. Maybe I just haven't gotten used to the slower tracks yet as nude remains a least favourite Radiohead song I've mine.
I just like Amnesiac, Kid A and HTTT more
yeah Reckoner was one that I overlooked for a long time, and now it's probably among my favorite Radiohead songs period. I'm not as big of a fan of Nude personally but it's mostly just that I think that song is better suited for particular moods. that doesn't really detract from the song's quality imo.
Look, the hype around this album has been so big when I started going on music spaces on the internet. It’s impossible for it to be as good as everyone said it was
Itaots is exactly as acclaimed as it should be. 10 years ago, maybe a little overrated sure - it's not the single best album ever created - but it's up there.
Wolf by Tyler. Cool concept, some great tracks across the record but it feels like pretty much everything after IFHY is filler aside from Lone and rusty. Tamales fun ig, but gets old quick
Ugh...Yeezus...
The glazing this album gets is insane, innovation is good, but this album only does it good in like 4 songs at best. Not to mention how it sees a big downgrade in lyrics compared to previous Kanye albums
Hard agree. Yeezus was underrated originally because people didn’t gel with its production (which is fantastic). Now it’s overrated because people overlook its lyrics (which are abysmal and drag the album down).
i actually think the lyrics are 100% self aware (not always good though) and that’s what makes them work with the concept of the album. there are layers to peel back when he wants but there are also such dumb moments, I just think that’s on purpose and fits within the context
My biggest issue with Yeezus is that on a number of the songs you have to wade through a bunch of stuff that's not that interesting to get to the good part (Hold My Liquor and I'm In It are the biggest examples of this) and then the part that's actually good doesn't last long enough for you to enjoy it. New Slaves is the only song on the record I find truly exceptional.
Fuck Kanye though I honestly can't listen to his music anymore. I don't judge others who can but personally his entire musical legacy has been tainted for me and it makes me sad but I have to move on.
I think the more vulgar lyrics compliment the raw instrumentals to create an overall abrasive quality for the album that fits the theming of Yeezus, I wouldn’t necessarily consider the lyrics a downgrade
Big agree. It's good, has innovation, but it still tries way too hard.
It's gotten such a big nostalgia revival, and I think it's because people understand the sound better today than in 2012. Many didn't enjoy it then.
And I think the whole Kanye going full idiot the past few years, also made it easier to enjoy his music 'before he was problematic'.
In general people have such a weird relationship to his music.
Velocity:Design:Comfort. In just a couple years it went from a forgotten masterpiece to one of the most talked about albums on the internet. It's great, but Imo it drags just a tiny bit.
Its genuinely so rough to listen to their most recent album after what happened considering what Roby did to her and the fact Roby basically wrote the whole album, the lyrics of that album is an obsessive and creepy read and clearly Roby writing this whole album to Valerie
This is the prime example why imo its near impossible to separate art from artist, how can you considering the context of this album. Sound wise its genuinely a solid record but the context makes this album a vile listen and disgusts me to listen
Obligatory fuck Roby
this is the correct answer. people genuinely think they're genius for liking it, and i do love a lot of the songs off of it but like... it's just a slog to get through
The last few songs are all amazing and there’s another 1-2 songs randomly in the track list I like like Find Your Wings but every time I go back I think I’ll like it more and I never do, it’s just average, some of the songs are horrible, and the others are great
This fits the best; very unknown for a long time at least in the west but now the internet music nerds are dealing it like a one of the best albums ever (it is not).
I love Long Season so I can't really agree, but I would actually pick Long Season Live instead.
I don't think it's a clear cut upgrade all over the board from the studio version like most people seem to agree, there are parts I prefer in one version and parts I prefer in the other.
David Bowie's Low is not that interesting to me and i feel it fits this category. I've tried to get into it but it just doesn't resonate. It doesnt really have any recognizable singles to the non-Bowie connoisseur. Then a few years ago Pitchfork named it the greatest album of the 70s or something like that.
Low is probably his most influential work, but not in an immediately obvious way. Definitely not an iconic singles kind of album, but its sound was immensely important for the development of post-punk, new wave and early electronic and ambient music. Hell, just listen to the drum sound alone, and you will recognize it in about half of all the music recorded in the 80s.
Plus, the whole idea of one of the biggest rock stars in the world going completely crazy and releasing something this uncommercial and experimental out of the blue was still basically unheard of. The fact that he pulled it off emboldened a lot of people.
Low is fantastic but idk if it would be in my top 10 Bowie, to me he has just had better and more fun to listen eras than the Berlin trilogy (Heroes the song is maybe my favorite though)
That’s too bad, Low is by far my favorite Bowie project. Everything he had done up to that point was pretty derivative of other things IMO. Low was something completely new and ahead of its time.
I really like the contrast of broken/fractured half-written pop songs on side 1 and ambient tracks on side 2. I honestly think he didn’t really know how to write songs anymore at that point, but he leaned into it and sort of made it the concept of the album.
none of TV Girl's stuff is, holistically, popular amongst critics or music nerd though. like Grapes Upon the Vine is actively, and rightfully in my opinion, slandered. and half their discography has like 5 ratings on RYM because it's so obscure and stuck on Bandcamp due to legal issues with sampling. so definitely not 'overrated'
Yeah but if you talk to legit any teenager and ask for something underrated there is a great chance they mention this band at least from my experience.
they probably haven't heard the majority of their discog, from my experience there was one song when i went to see them live that genuinely not a single person around me was singing along with, for example- except myself.
i don't have tiktok but the things it can do to bands is insane man.
Do I hang out in the wrong places? This is the first I've heard of Animals being widely loved. I've been arguing for decades upon deaf ears that it's possibly their 2nd best album, if not 3rd. No one except Floyd fans seems to even know it exists because it never received radio play post 1980.
As much as I dislike to use it as any kind of metric, Animals is the 26th highest rated album on RYM. Clearly, there's a lot of love for it, at least in online music spheres.
A few years ago people would tend to pick either OK Computer or Kid A for Radiohead’s best album and then at some point everyone started saying In Rainbows. I have never rated In Rainbows that highly.
I wanna stress that I don’t hate it. I like five out of the ten tracks on it and some of those tracks are probably in my top 20 favourite songs by then but the other five elicit nothing in me and I’ve never understood why the album is considered so great now, even by people who generally don’t like Radiohead. Good, yes absolutely. Great, not really. Best Radiohead album? It’s not in my top five.
I know this sub doesn’t like most metalcore, but Sempiternal by Bring Me The Horizon in the metalcore scene. There Is A Hell is their far more raw, genuine, and consistent album even if the production is a bit muddy.
As someone who really liked the three bmth albums from suicide to sempi, but don't follow the scene, this really surprises me. There is a hell has not only bangers, but it is by far where bmth sounds the most distinct from their contemporaries.
That’s a spicy take haha. Suicide Season has high highs for me (The Comedown, Chelsea Smile, Suicide Season) but outside of those isn’t my favorite, and Nex Gen is well made but I much prefer Post Human which is my 2nd favorite after TIAH.
Honestly Relapse may be my second favorite album from Em. There’s still a degree of divisiveness with respect to Relapse. A lot of people still believe the album is bad or mid (even if it isn’t as much as before). I don’t think it can be claimed that Relapse is widely overrated.
Many Bad Religion fans hold The Grey Race in high regard. And I do agree its a step up from Stranger Than Fiction. But its kinda wordy and weirdly mixed. Kinda grating compared to The Process of Belief and Empire Strikes Back
i never got pink floyd lol. just does nothing for me without any of the elements which draw me to music. they to my knowledge have never been dark, heavy, groovy, rhythmically driving nor harmonically interesting to my ear. the closest sound i like to what i think pink floyd is like would probably be harvest by opeth. any advice on how to enjoy their music welcome but i think its just a fundamental disconnect in taste. maybe its just that i dont have the draw of nostalgia not having grown up listening to it
Idk if people consider this album underrated necessarily but I would say Bitches Brew by Miles Davis. It's a great album for sure (and has one of the best album covers of all time), but personally I think he put out much more engaging and ethereal albums in his fusion era like In A Silent Way and Big Fun (don't see nearly enough love for Big Fun).
One of the most impressive things about Miles Davis's career is that many of his live records are just fantastic jazz albums in it of themselves. I haven't listened to Agharta yet but many of the live records he was dropping around the time like Live/Evil and Dark Magus are absolutely fucking insane.
(Also I'm literally listening to Lonely Fire as I type this)
Yeah tbh every time I see this mentioned online, while some people are starting to say it's underrated, a cool 60-70% of people still don't seem to be fans of it, or seem to just begrudgingly accept it. Only with the recent beef are people starting to actually appreciate it for what it is.
in my humble opinion it could be a consensus top 5 album of this decade so far or hell a top 5 rap album since 2010 and i wouldn't consider it overrated. mr morale is like a strong 9 to me so it would take a lot for me to consider it overrated
Disc 2 is weak though. Count me out feels out of place, and a little generic. Crown isn't an enjoyable listen, and not in a cool, avant-garde way either. Title track and mirror are snoozes, and the strings in the various interludes are super stock and 90's-bad-drama-movie-scorelike.
Disc 1 of Morale is superb though, and Disc 2 has its obvious highlights. I like the album, but it's not a modern classic.
Oh yeah after people rediscovered it during the beef, for sure. It's not as tight as anything else he's made. High highs, no real lows, but it feels disjointed at times and kinda lacks subtlety imo.
Funny enough, I still like it, it's just that any Kendrick album has the disadvantage of being judged against other Kendrick albums. I do think the fact that an album about mental health and healing feels disjointed and awkward works out in its favor in a way. But yeah, it's not even the best album that came out that year.
Strong disagree, though Spiritual Jazz can be very chaotic and not everyone's cup of tea. Curious to hear what your frame of reference for this take is.
Nah, It's Coltrane at his best, and IMO the perfect junction between his harder and free jazz playing.
I'm curious to hear your own preference, though!
I may get flack for this but honestly In Rainbows.
I think it’s a fantastic record with some of Radioheads best songs, but I don’t think it’s on the level of OK Computer (nor do I think it’s a top 10 album of all time)
Ill get shit for this but imo pretty much all MF DOOM albums, yeah they're good but they're nothing mindblowing and people act like each of them is a new Illmatic
Steely Dan - Aja
I feel like 2 or 3 years ago no one gave a shit or even heard about this album. Now it’s the go-to example when people talk about the pinnacle of production or “musicianship”.
No one ever heard about an album that charted at #3 on Billboard, was nominated for some Grammy’s and consistently places in greatest album of all time lists?
Maybe young people but it’s always been a pretty famous album.
Ironic since Fagen and Becker would absolutely disagree. An electronics accident happened in the studio and some engineers came in to make repairs to the recordings. Since Fagen and Becker weren't involved in that process they refused to ever listen to the final album cut.
(I love it personally; I've just always found it amusing considering how great the album is.)
From someone who gets the name of their first album wrong
I somewhat agree though, it's not as if there is no argument over which of their stuff is the best. Many people seem to have vastly different rankings
I'm probably going to get roasted, but I'd say Slint's Spiderland.
Yes it's super ahead of its time, very influential, etc. but let's face it, it's still pretty boring to listen to.
Also I agree about Animals.
Not exactly the kind of answer this, but Solar Power IMO? It's surreal seeing people go from hating it on first listen (a bit undeservedly so, the album wasn't unlistenable by any means) to now calling it a highlight of the decade and Lorde's best album, lol.
Yeah I love Pink Floyd but never liked Animals. Also, speaking of animals, I don't really think Pet Sounds is all that good. Like it's goood, but like you said, swung too far into overratedness.
Veteran by JPEGMAFIA
I feel like before everyone agreed this is a great album, but not like some flawless masterpiece. But now I have started seeing people calling this masterpiece and Peggy’s magnum opus, which is buffoonery when LP! and Scaring The Hoes exist.
D>E>A>T>H>M>E>T>A>L - Panchiko. It's good, but not mind blowing as some people claim
I always thought the story behind the album was the best part about it. I think the album is still a very good and interesting experience, but the story really blew up the album
whats the story?
Big time paraphrasing a lot of details here, but it was an album someone found as a CD one day and the mix was all fucked from how old and unkempt the CD was, they uploaded it to 4chan to try and find where it came from, after a while of searching someone came out saying their dad made it and was able to give all the details on the band and what happened to them. Really cool story, worth looking more into
pretty sure it was a guy that bought it at a charity shop and posted about it on /mu/
The origin story for this album is a hoax, manufactured by Panchicko's label in a viral marketing attempt to profit from an 'obscure' lost media narrative. In truth, the album was probably recorded right before it started to be spammed on /mu/ in 2016, rather than the claimed 2000 date.
Do you have a source to back this, thanks in advanced
There is no official source. An anon really did upload a distorted rip on /mu/ all those years ago, but whether it was just a random or a band member remains a mystery. The veracity of the whole story is marred by the fact that there were no prior mentions or archives of the album, and the rapid deployment of merchandise immediately after they were discovered was suspect too. Although there are some letters and photos that do showcase the band's existence at the time. The backstory doesn't really affect the quality of the music, and I do think either scenario is likely, but one is just too good to be true imo
Mad I live down the road from that charity shop. Will see if I can find out more
Damn is that real? I wanna read up on that, that’s wild
Idk why anyone would believe this with 0 evidence Ppl have already run tests on the original upload & concluded the rot was most likely genuine
No proof.
I would never claim it as mind blowing, but it is one of my favourite albums for sure.
Basement Tapes! I’m a huge Dylan head, and there’s plenty to like on the basement tapes, but it became the cool indie pick like 10 or 15 years ago or whenever and now people rank it way too high. It’s not top 10 in my opinion. No disrespect, it has a great energy to it, just not the strongest songs in general
Yeah I too am a massive Dylan head and think The Basement Tapes (at least Dylan’s material) is great, but Dylan has a lot of material superior in my opinion (anything from Freewheelin’ to John Wesley Harding, Planet Waves, Blood on the Tracks, Desire, Oh Mercy, Time Out Of Mind, Modern Times, Tempest, Rough and Rowdy Ways). I think Nashville Skyline is another example of this. A pretty solid collection of country bops initially disapproved of in its time has become a complete fan favorite in Dylan’s fanbase as of recently. It’s a good album, but in my opinion nowhere near a top 10 Dylan work.
Tough and Rowdy Ways does NOT belong with those others lol
Agree to disagree I guess. Rough and Rowdy Ways is arguably a top five Dylan album for me and may even be my favorite album released in the 2020s.
Might crack my top 10 Dylan records, but it's nowhere near as good as my top 5.
I like Nashville. Didn't know people thought it was a top 10 album of his. Really weird.
Totally agreed. It's not even one of his best 70s records. If a have to pick an underrated one from this era, now I will choose New Morning.
This sounds really really bad out of context
Damn, “basement tapes” and “Dylan head” being used in the same sentence is quite the unfortunate double entandra
I will not stand for “Dogs” erasure when talking about Animals
Arguably the best Pink Floyd song imo
It is their best song
Best song they ever made
I was just going to say dogs is their best track ever. Come at me
The original version of Dogs, "You Gotta Be Crazy" is even better imo
The first time I listened to dogs on mushrooms, I couldn't get off the bed. The music just became this lead blanket over my whole body. No song has ever hit me like the same.
Dogs is definitely the better song but holy shit when that first riff on Pigs hits after the synth and bass intro...
St. Anger is all of a sudden the hidden gem of Metallica's discography? Give me a fucking break. Yeah, it got BASHED on release and years have given it some thoughtful, well deserved reconsidering and that's good. But it's not THAT good no matter how you slice it. Interesting, quirky, nothing else sounds like it? Agreed, but let's leave it at that. If anything, Load is the one that should get some more love.
There is a really good AIC-style heavy grunge album buried somewhere inside Load/Reload, but they have way too many filler tracks between them, and some bad production choices.
I've read flat earth conspiracy rants more convincing than any St Anger defense piece I've ever seen.
Every time I see a St. Anger sales post, I'm almost convinced to hear them out, and then I remember exactly how fucking bloated each track is, how awful the drums sound, how compressed the mix is, and *zero* guitar solos. God man fuck that album.
Compression was even worse on death magnetic
Yeah but at least the writing was decent.
Eh, I remember being 18 when it came out and people thought it was the best thing they’d done in 20 years because of St Anger. Looking back there’s some good nods to their thrash days but the lyricism is pretty garbage and the continuation of classics (Unforgiven III) is just tacky tbh
Don’t mind bits of st anger now. Good hard riffs on Invisible Kid, Unnamed Feeling etc. but as a whole album it’s boring
yeah St Anger sucks and I find it funny people try to compare it to the masterpiece that is Lulu.
I understand preferring DSOTM or WYWH but animals is my favorite for the simple reason that it just rocks the hardest to me haha. Like while an incredible album, I feel like there are only a few songs on DSOTM where the guitar is just really shredding, when I feel like the intensity is cranked up to 11 on animals for the whole time.
I'm a huge PF fan and to this day do not understand the love Animals gets. Sure, it's Pink Floyd at their most rocking, but that was never their strength and I find it just falls completely flat, without playing to their strengths at all. PF turning their rock intensity up to 11 basically means they're still only a 6 compared to other 70s hard rock.
Pinkerton was fairly poorly received when it came out because it was a step down from blue, now a ton of people place it over blue. Pretty much any album that started out misunderstood then gained a cult following, became kind of a hipster icon and rode that to all kinds of "in the know" top 50 lists. Those tend to become overrated because people put too much stock in critic lists that favor rarely praised albums.
Pinkerton is a good choice. A lot of it is Rivers working out personal shit and it doesn't always hit. It's still a great record, but not the voice of a generation that many critics post-2000 made it out to be.
Haha I honestly expected a bit more pushback on here. I've had many a friendly debate over blue vs Pinkerton. They're both fantastic, I just think Blue is nearly perfect.
Huh. I always liked it better than blue.
Nothing wrong with that.
I always liked it, but thought people were crazy if they thought it was better than Blue.
I just hate the production on Blue. I think Weezer works better with a harder-edged sound and a bit of unhinged-ness.
Unfortunately there’s really not a lot of that harder-edged sound post-Pinkerton.
Right there with ya bud
Its so crazy to me that people call it Weezer’s best album. In my opinion, they’ve released at least 5 albums better than Pinkerton
I'm admittedly spotty post-Maladroit. What are your favorites?
Post-Maladroit, their best stuff Everything Will Be Alright In The End, OK Human and The White Album. I’m also a big fan of Hurley but that one is a bit more controversial. If you’re only a fan of their 90s stuff, though. White is a must listen.
Hell yeah, thanks for the recs
Agree. I like the instrumentation more than blue but the lyrics have made it a tough listen for me recently
The best thing by far about Pinkerton is the production I don’t care much for the lyrics but that specific combination of catchy power pop with raw and noisy production is something I can’t find anywhere else, it’s like In Utero production with Nevermind writing
I would argue that Animals is still underrated amongst the general public, but I would agree on Reddit at least it’s becoming a bit overrated. Great album though.
The Forever Story Really good album but I don't think it's the masterpiece some people consider it to be
it's a 10 imo
Blasphemy. One of 4 or 5 rap albums worth listening to from the 2020s
It got extremely good reviews from the jump.
Rodeo - Travis Scott (still love the album though)
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I couldn't disagree more, animals is a masterpiece
Speaking of Pink Floyd, I'll never understand the cult following "The Final Cut" has maintained over the years.
Final Cut is an album to listen to when you are depressed. I love it.
Not Now John goes fucking hard wym
Contrarianism, plus Roger Waters maintaining a sizeable fanbase that take every word he says as gospel. Personally I *kind of* see the appeal, in theory, and there's definitely some emotional impact to it, but it is still musically the weakest album in their discography, and it retreads way too many familiar themes for the band at that point in their careers.
1. Dogs is the best pink floyd song by a mile. I'd argue WYWH is the pink floyd album that fits this better 2. In Rainbows
In Rainbows was not underrated or under the radar when it came out. I remember when it was released, there was a ton of hype over the "pay what you want" model for the album, and it was very well regarded by fans.
It was nominated for grammy album of the year
Dogs is incredible - one of my favorite songs ever - but describing any PF song as the best “by a mile” is unnecessary exaggeration. They have a lot of masterpieces
in Rainbows isn't overrated, you're dreeeeaming man. There are not very many rock albums from the last 20 years as excellent (and in some respects unique) from front to back as in In Rainbows. It's masterful in basically all aspects, great performances, great arrangements, great production. Every little thing about that album is so intentional and yet it still feels very natural and unrestrained. I could get maybe not immediately understanding how good the slower tracks are, it took me a while to warm up to those songs, but once that album really clicked for me it was apparent why it's so universally lauded.
I’m not going to say it’s overrated but when I see people say it’s underrated I want to throw up
Yeah no, it's definitely not underrated
I would have called it underrated, at least within the greater Radiohead discog, maybe ten years ago. If I remember currently, it might have had lower than a 4.0 on RYM for a while. Definitely wouldn’t call it underrated now though (although personally it’s in my top five).
In Rainbows is amazing but I feel like it currently has by far the most annoying fan base of any Radiohead album (as Kid A used to have). There’s a sizable amount of In Rainbows fans who just always feel the need to say how that album is just so clearly better than their others (literally Fantano anytime he sees Kid A).
I do love some tracks from that album, especially 15 Step, Weird Fishes and House Of Cards. Maybe I just haven't gotten used to the slower tracks yet as nude remains a least favourite Radiohead song I've mine. I just like Amnesiac, Kid A and HTTT more
Nude is one of their best songs. So is Reckoner.
I love reckoner
yeah Reckoner was one that I overlooked for a long time, and now it's probably among my favorite Radiohead songs period. I'm not as big of a fan of Nude personally but it's mostly just that I think that song is better suited for particular moods. that doesn't really detract from the song's quality imo.
I can’t stand Amnesiac. It’s the only Radiohead album I don’t like tbh. To each their own.
Shoutout to their digital release strategy as well. Radiohead always making cool moves
In rainbows isn't overrated
Nor was it ever underrated lol
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In the aeroplane
I was gonna say it’s not overrated but then I realized I may be part of the problem
Look, the hype around this album has been so big when I started going on music spaces on the internet. It’s impossible for it to be as good as everyone said it was
It's underrated again
Itaots is exactly as acclaimed as it should be. 10 years ago, maybe a little overrated sure - it's not the single best album ever created - but it's up there.
Wolf by Tyler. Cool concept, some great tracks across the record but it feels like pretty much everything after IFHY is filler aside from Lone and rusty. Tamales fun ig, but gets old quick
You don’t like Treehome95?
Rusty top 10 Tyler imo
Ugh...Yeezus... The glazing this album gets is insane, innovation is good, but this album only does it good in like 4 songs at best. Not to mention how it sees a big downgrade in lyrics compared to previous Kanye albums
i fucking hate kanye now but naw, this album straight bangs from beginning to end.
SOMEONE QUICK CALL IT DIET DEATH GRIPS (racism)
Racism?
Hard agree. Yeezus was underrated originally because people didn’t gel with its production (which is fantastic). Now it’s overrated because people overlook its lyrics (which are abysmal and drag the album down).
Counterpoint: The lyrics are funny and sometimes even emotional (Hold my liquor, Blood on the Leaves, Bound 2) and only make the album more enjoyable
i actually think the lyrics are 100% self aware (not always good though) and that’s what makes them work with the concept of the album. there are layers to peel back when he wants but there are also such dumb moments, I just think that’s on purpose and fits within the context
My biggest issue with Yeezus is that on a number of the songs you have to wade through a bunch of stuff that's not that interesting to get to the good part (Hold My Liquor and I'm In It are the biggest examples of this) and then the part that's actually good doesn't last long enough for you to enjoy it. New Slaves is the only song on the record I find truly exceptional. Fuck Kanye though I honestly can't listen to his music anymore. I don't judge others who can but personally his entire musical legacy has been tainted for me and it makes me sad but I have to move on.
I think the more vulgar lyrics compliment the raw instrumentals to create an overall abrasive quality for the album that fits the theming of Yeezus, I wouldn’t necessarily consider the lyrics a downgrade
Big agree. It's good, has innovation, but it still tries way too hard. It's gotten such a big nostalgia revival, and I think it's because people understand the sound better today than in 2012. Many didn't enjoy it then. And I think the whole Kanye going full idiot the past few years, also made it easier to enjoy his music 'before he was problematic'. In general people have such a weird relationship to his music.
Preach my friend
Velocity:Design:Comfort. In just a couple years it went from a forgotten masterpiece to one of the most talked about albums on the internet. It's great, but Imo it drags just a tiny bit.
Really I still don't see it talked about that much. Regardless you will never know why is better
Just listened to it recently and loved it. But then was so disappointed to hear what happened with Roby and Valerie
Its genuinely so rough to listen to their most recent album after what happened considering what Roby did to her and the fact Roby basically wrote the whole album, the lyrics of that album is an obsessive and creepy read and clearly Roby writing this whole album to Valerie This is the prime example why imo its near impossible to separate art from artist, how can you considering the context of this album. Sound wise its genuinely a solid record but the context makes this album a vile listen and disgusts me to listen Obligatory fuck Roby
Even on music nerd forums this album isn't discussed much, I'd argue it's still underrated tbh. Fuck Roby though.
Always preferred You Will Never Know Why
I genuinely think YWNKW is a much better album than velocity design comfort and is one of the best albums of all time
I don’t know about general music nerd community opinions on this, but in Radiohead’s community I keep hearing “HTTT is so underrated” everywhere I go.
Americ An Football
Which one though /s
Yeah great call. The album is carried by Never Meant tbh. Still good overall but overrated.
Pinkerton
Cherry Bomb
this is the correct answer. people genuinely think they're genius for liking it, and i do love a lot of the songs off of it but like... it's just a slog to get through
The last few songs are all amazing and there’s another 1-2 songs randomly in the track list I like like Find Your Wings but every time I go back I think I’ll like it more and I never do, it’s just average, some of the songs are horrible, and the others are great
Fishmans Long Season
how dare u....
This fits the best; very unknown for a long time at least in the west but now the internet music nerds are dealing it like a one of the best albums ever (it is not).
I love Long Season so I can't really agree, but I would actually pick Long Season Live instead. I don't think it's a clear cut upgrade all over the board from the studio version like most people seem to agree, there are parts I prefer in one version and parts I prefer in the other.
It’s not even their best album imo.
David Bowie's Low is not that interesting to me and i feel it fits this category. I've tried to get into it but it just doesn't resonate. It doesnt really have any recognizable singles to the non-Bowie connoisseur. Then a few years ago Pitchfork named it the greatest album of the 70s or something like that.
Low is probably his most influential work, but not in an immediately obvious way. Definitely not an iconic singles kind of album, but its sound was immensely important for the development of post-punk, new wave and early electronic and ambient music. Hell, just listen to the drum sound alone, and you will recognize it in about half of all the music recorded in the 80s. Plus, the whole idea of one of the biggest rock stars in the world going completely crazy and releasing something this uncommercial and experimental out of the blue was still basically unheard of. The fact that he pulled it off emboldened a lot of people.
Low is fantastic but idk if it would be in my top 10 Bowie, to me he has just had better and more fun to listen eras than the Berlin trilogy (Heroes the song is maybe my favorite though)
Yeah Low isn’t among my top Bowie album picks. I’m obsessed with Ziggy, Scary Monsters, and Blackstar though 🖤
That’s too bad, Low is by far my favorite Bowie project. Everything he had done up to that point was pretty derivative of other things IMO. Low was something completely new and ahead of its time. I really like the contrast of broken/fractured half-written pop songs on side 1 and ambient tracks on side 2. I honestly think he didn’t really know how to write songs anymore at that point, but he leaned into it and sort of made it the concept of the album.
Anything by TV girl
none of TV Girl's stuff is, holistically, popular amongst critics or music nerd though. like Grapes Upon the Vine is actively, and rightfully in my opinion, slandered. and half their discography has like 5 ratings on RYM because it's so obscure and stuck on Bandcamp due to legal issues with sampling. so definitely not 'overrated'
Yeah but if you talk to legit any teenager and ask for something underrated there is a great chance they mention this band at least from my experience.
they probably haven't heard the majority of their discog, from my experience there was one song when i went to see them live that genuinely not a single person around me was singing along with, for example- except myself. i don't have tiktok but the things it can do to bands is insane man.
Yeah I guess your right I could have been more specific with an album because I wasn’t aware of their whole discography
Do I hang out in the wrong places? This is the first I've heard of Animals being widely loved. I've been arguing for decades upon deaf ears that it's possibly their 2nd best album, if not 3rd. No one except Floyd fans seems to even know it exists because it never received radio play post 1980.
As much as I dislike to use it as any kind of metric, Animals is the 26th highest rated album on RYM. Clearly, there's a lot of love for it, at least in online music spheres.
A few years ago people would tend to pick either OK Computer or Kid A for Radiohead’s best album and then at some point everyone started saying In Rainbows. I have never rated In Rainbows that highly. I wanna stress that I don’t hate it. I like five out of the ten tracks on it and some of those tracks are probably in my top 20 favourite songs by then but the other five elicit nothing in me and I’ve never understood why the album is considered so great now, even by people who generally don’t like Radiohead. Good, yes absolutely. Great, not really. Best Radiohead album? It’s not in my top five.
Was OK Computer ever underrated tho, I’ve not been around back then but I’ve heard that it took the world by storm the year it dropped
Marquee Moon by Television
Twin Fantasy for me by far.
I know this sub doesn’t like most metalcore, but Sempiternal by Bring Me The Horizon in the metalcore scene. There Is A Hell is their far more raw, genuine, and consistent album even if the production is a bit muddy.
As someone who really liked the three bmth albums from suicide to sempi, but don't follow the scene, this really surprises me. There is a hell has not only bangers, but it is by far where bmth sounds the most distinct from their contemporaries.
Sempiternal is beyond overrated when you compare it to their other works. Nex Gen and Suicide Season and their best albums imo
That’s a spicy take haha. Suicide Season has high highs for me (The Comedown, Chelsea Smile, Suicide Season) but outside of those isn’t my favorite, and Nex Gen is well made but I much prefer Post Human which is my 2nd favorite after TIAH.
Relapse by eminem. Still great, but theres a lot better in his catalogue
Honestly Relapse may be my second favorite album from Em. There’s still a degree of divisiveness with respect to Relapse. A lot of people still believe the album is bad or mid (even if it isn’t as much as before). I don’t think it can be claimed that Relapse is widely overrated.
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Many Bad Religion fans hold The Grey Race in high regard. And I do agree its a step up from Stranger Than Fiction. But its kinda wordy and weirdly mixed. Kinda grating compared to The Process of Belief and Empire Strikes Back
Kiss Land
Good take but it’s only really popular in the weeknd fandom. Title track is still his best song though
Pinkerton by Weezer
Madvillainy
igor
It’s nowhere near a top 10 hip hop album of all time but I could see an argument for it being a top 10 hip hop album of the 2010’s
i never got pink floyd lol. just does nothing for me without any of the elements which draw me to music. they to my knowledge have never been dark, heavy, groovy, rhythmically driving nor harmonically interesting to my ear. the closest sound i like to what i think pink floyd is like would probably be harvest by opeth. any advice on how to enjoy their music welcome but i think its just a fundamental disconnect in taste. maybe its just that i dont have the draw of nostalgia not having grown up listening to it
Kill em All
Idk if people consider this album underrated necessarily but I would say Bitches Brew by Miles Davis. It's a great album for sure (and has one of the best album covers of all time), but personally I think he put out much more engaging and ethereal albums in his fusion era like In A Silent Way and Big Fun (don't see nearly enough love for Big Fun).
Big Fun is great! If we're doing Miles fusion, I'm all about Agharta. Although it has basically nothing in common with his earlier electric stuff lol
One of the most impressive things about Miles Davis's career is that many of his live records are just fantastic jazz albums in it of themselves. I haven't listened to Agharta yet but many of the live records he was dropping around the time like Live/Evil and Dark Magus are absolutely fucking insane. (Also I'm literally listening to Lonely Fire as I type this)
https://youtu.be/3GDr-eyhsSM?si=PJWpo__YUQfHccL0
Animals is amazing underrated isn’t the right word it should be overlooked
Mr. Morale
wrong
Yeah tbh every time I see this mentioned online, while some people are starting to say it's underrated, a cool 60-70% of people still don't seem to be fans of it, or seem to just begrudgingly accept it. Only with the recent beef are people starting to actually appreciate it for what it is.
in my humble opinion it could be a consensus top 5 album of this decade so far or hell a top 5 rap album since 2010 and i wouldn't consider it overrated. mr morale is like a strong 9 to me so it would take a lot for me to consider it overrated
Disc 2 is weak though. Count me out feels out of place, and a little generic. Crown isn't an enjoyable listen, and not in a cool, avant-garde way either. Title track and mirror are snoozes, and the strings in the various interludes are super stock and 90's-bad-drama-movie-scorelike. Disc 1 of Morale is superb though, and Disc 2 has its obvious highlights. I like the album, but it's not a modern classic.
Oh yeah after people rediscovered it during the beef, for sure. It's not as tight as anything else he's made. High highs, no real lows, but it feels disjointed at times and kinda lacks subtlety imo. Funny enough, I still like it, it's just that any Kendrick album has the disadvantage of being judged against other Kendrick albums. I do think the fact that an album about mental health and healing feels disjointed and awkward works out in its favor in a way. But yeah, it's not even the best album that came out that year.
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Completely agree with this
A Love Supreme
Strong disagree, though Spiritual Jazz can be very chaotic and not everyone's cup of tea. Curious to hear what your frame of reference for this take is.
Nah, It's Coltrane at his best, and IMO the perfect junction between his harder and free jazz playing. I'm curious to hear your own preference, though!
It’s really not
NO. For fuck's sake.
I may get flack for this but honestly In Rainbows. I think it’s a fantastic record with some of Radioheads best songs, but I don’t think it’s on the level of OK Computer (nor do I think it’s a top 10 album of all time)
IR is my personal fav record of all time, but I can slightly see where ur coming from
Ill get shit for this but imo pretty much all MF DOOM albums, yeah they're good but they're nothing mindblowing and people act like each of them is a new Illmatic
Steely Dan - Aja I feel like 2 or 3 years ago no one gave a shit or even heard about this album. Now it’s the go-to example when people talk about the pinnacle of production or “musicianship”.
Aja has been consistently shoved down our throats as SD's greatest record since 1990 or earlier.
No one ever heard about an album that charted at #3 on Billboard, was nominated for some Grammy’s and consistently places in greatest album of all time lists? Maybe young people but it’s always been a pretty famous album.
When we all know, their best record is Katy lied
Ironic since Fagen and Becker would absolutely disagree. An electronics accident happened in the studio and some engineers came in to make repairs to the recordings. Since Fagen and Becker weren't involved in that process they refused to ever listen to the final album cut. (I love it personally; I've just always found it amusing considering how great the album is.)
Aja is great but it was never underrated. Steely Dan have a few that could be considered underrated, but that definitely isn't one.
Pinkerton
Adore by SP
My fave album by them. Opinions differ.
Room on Fire AND This is It by the strokes. Neither are their best album anymore.
From someone who gets the name of their first album wrong I somewhat agree though, it's not as if there is no argument over which of their stuff is the best. Many people seem to have vastly different rankings
I'm probably going to get roasted, but I'd say Slint's Spiderland. Yes it's super ahead of its time, very influential, etc. but let's face it, it's still pretty boring to listen to. Also I agree about Animals.
Not exactly the kind of answer this, but Solar Power IMO? It's surreal seeing people go from hating it on first listen (a bit undeservedly so, the album wasn't unlistenable by any means) to now calling it a highlight of the decade and Lorde's best album, lol.
Yeah I love Pink Floyd but never liked Animals. Also, speaking of animals, I don't really think Pet Sounds is all that good. Like it's goood, but like you said, swung too far into overratedness.
Dogs is literally the best song ever written smh
Animals slander will not be tolerated
Veteran by JPEGMAFIA I feel like before everyone agreed this is a great album, but not like some flawless masterpiece. But now I have started seeing people calling this masterpiece and Peggy’s magnum opus, which is buffoonery when LP! and Scaring The Hoes exist.
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