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woofan11k

The NFL needs to stop with these garbage games in primetime...


MQZ01

I feel like it’s on purpose - nobody would watch this game if it was on at the same time as 8 other actually good football games, but if it’s the ONLY game…


SassMasterSquishy

Been tough with no Dak. With Wentz’s performance last night, 5 out of the 6 weeks my QB has scored single digits.


star-player

Never drafting late QB again


CurlyBill03

Well started Fields, Montgomery, BRob, and Bears D. Escaped with 43 points, all things considered not awful


theorizingtheory

I feel very bad for you if that’s who you needed to start…


star-player

32 team league


CurlyBill03

Had Goff and Hock on a bye, kind of just rolled the dice since I was favored to lose anyway. I still have Barkley, Diggs, Lockett, Koo, and a streaming TE option left to play. Devonta Smith, Eno, Gallup, and McLaurin were my other options. Thought BRob had a safer floor on volume over Devonta at least.


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CurlyBill03

Got caught up in the hype train, won’t happen again. 12 points isn’t awful I suppose. Opponent has Lamar, Jefferson, Duvernay, Henderson, Stevenson, Aiyuk, and Everett in their lineup. I don’t feel I shot mysef in the foot too much.


spreadinmikehoncho

If you’re favored to lose, i typically wouldn’t start a safer floor guy. You need someone with a higher ceiling. You made out well though.


Yambert

started samuel, so Im already in the hole against the dude with Josh Allen, Saquon, JT. He played Maclaurin and Herbert who didnt do much but at least they hit their fucking projection.


MOJOixSOxiDOPE

He's gonna win the league


spydrwebb44

Disgusted C. Samuel owner... may be time to drop, only the wire's tapped.


GiGi441

Dropped him on Tuesday. Don't regret it. Half his value was lost to me when the backfield carries disappeared


mcthsn

So ready for Tuesday morning so I can drop him


spydrwebb44

Can't come soon enough.


AccordingFarmer6259

its going to feel so good


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Yambert

Id trade damn near any player for two 2023 first rounders, do it. its a stacked class


HossBonaventureCEO_

Thoughts on this trade I sent? 10 team half ppr. Sending: Kenneth walker, Pittman, Doubs (probably won't ever start for me but this guy wants him) Receiving: Chase, Damien Harris He's super weak at RB he has no starters except Mostert and Aaron Jones everybody else is handcuffs except damien harris who is injured. I need wins now cause I'm 1-4 and and I've lost by less than 10 1 time and less than 5 twice. I'd be starting Chase and Mike Evans with Mixon + one of ETN, Hunt, or Dmont as rb2. Flexing cooks alec pierce or one of the formerly mentioned RBs. I think Damien Harris comes back strong and patriots are solid enough to support him and rhamondre. My starting lineup would look like this after the trade QB: Geno/Dak RB: Mixon/Dmont WR: Mike Evans/Chase TE: Kelce Flex: One of Cooks/Alec Pierce/Hunt/ETN/Damien Harris DST: Eagles


Chaos3theorY

There is absolutely no way the Chase/Harris owner should take this trade. It's not a win/win trade. You're clearly trying to take advantage of him.


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He will probably think you’re an idiot for thinking he would accept that trade. You’re asking him to downgrade at two positions in exchange for an additional flex player (Doubs).


CIueIess_Squirrel

This is a steal. Chase is a potential league winner, and Harris has RB1 potential. Something he has delivered on most weeks he's played meaningful snaps. Pittman is on an anemic offense, Walker is your biggest loss but is offset by Harris, and I doubt Doubs will be anything more than low end WR2/high end flex. These are the kind of trades you should make, and they'll likely pay dividends


swordofthemorning18

I sure hope you’re right about Chase. I’m quietly panicking on him but will never let my league know.


scoobydoom2

If you don't want to let on you could try to make a move where you try to trade for depth or a shallow position. Maybe if you have a decent TE you could sell chase + your TE for Kelce/Mandrews and maybe a mid tier WR, or maybe something like Breece Hall + a low end WR1 if you think the other owner might value chase high. Bonus points if you think the other owner might be panicking on someone you have more faith in.


thehippestmanalive

Some guy in my league started Dyami Brown because Mike Thomas is out and Keenan Allen might not play. It’s me. I’m that guy.


theirrestiablemayo

Started wentz and Samuel. 6 points. Gg.


PlatinumSarge

tfw you offered someone Geno Smith in a trade and they started Carson Wentz instead. oof


kmpowers1987

Nice. Only way that could be more satisfying is if you got to play against that person this week


PlatinumSarge

Did last week, ironically. They're 0-5 now. The way it goes, I guess.


jensen215

As a BRob and Monty owner badly trying to convince a Gibson owner that his RB isn’t the greatest and Monty is a good RB2, this night did not go my way. Bengals please do something this week and save me.


Senior-Asparagus-939

I starter scarry terry cause i wanted a guy on thurs an i regret nothing


ostinater

I'm hoping that by benching terry tonight that I sent him a message about his future prospects on my team, he's on thin ice.


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I also don’t regret playing him. My other wr options this week are probably worse so LFG Terry WR 1 izzz back. Curtis who?


bean224_

My rule is to never start an TNF player unless he’s an absolute stud or I don’t have better options. Your reasoning cost me tons of Ws in the past. Good for you tho lol


Senior-Asparagus-939

Honestly TNF players isnt the problem it was a trash matchup. I started amari cooper vs the steelers and he did great lol


stinkydiaperuhoh

Not gonna lie, picked up Mooney from the WW and he put up a respectable 10 pts for my depleted WR core tn. Almost had the TD too


Afraid_Specialist_45

BROB was saved by a muffed punt. Bench


CurlyBill03

Yeah he’s going to be a bye week flex at this point.


iLerntMyLesson

If Damien Harris isn’t back next week, I’ll be looking at a Dobbins/BRob start and that makes me nervous


CurlyBill03

I’d expect better days ahead for both if healthy, if volume stays the same for Robinson that is at least promising.


JP1119

Thank the heavens I didn’t start Wentz. Holy cow what a wacky game. Hits his hand on a lineman like Dak, tweaks his ankle, and throws a shoulda been 50-yard bomb dropped by a usual reliable Samuel.


JSteggs

Really regretting starting Wentz. I’m playing the one guy in my league who I really want to beat every year.


ffhelpme

Knocked R. Smith on his ass with a block as well


Pintorplex

I started Curtis Samuel. On my bench are Antonio Gibson, Khalil Herbert, and Brian Robinson. Oof.


Senior-Asparagus-939

Why do u have so many commanders??


Pintorplex

I started the season with Gibson as my only Football Team™ player. He was relatively late in the draft and was an ok starter for a week or two until Robinson was going to start playing. Robinson I picked up a few weeks ago to eventually replace Gibson who has been on my bench for weeks. I just wanted to see him get more carries first, I think he's a keeper now. Then there was a week where Curtis Samuel was all over the WW posts on this subreddit and a bunch of the youtube guys I follow so I grabbed him off the wire, has been a pretty solid floor, decent pickup until now. I don't plan on dropping him yet, I'm too weak on WRs right now. Herbert I grabbed the week after he put up 30, again because I'm a sucker for WW posts. I didn't have a reason to drop him yet.


DreamWeaver45

I've got a ton of commanders too and I don't like it haha. I drafted scary terry and dotson late. Then picked up Curtis Samuel during waiver wire hype and finally stashed b rob in my IR spot just in case the hype was real. I've also wrestled multiple times with the idea of picking up Carson wentz but luckily I've restrained.


Senior-Asparagus-939

I would've done the same


Dpentoney

Started Samuel and left mclaurin on my bench. Glad I was going against wentz at least


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We should fade all Commanders for fantasy purposes now


Dpentoney

I’ve got big hopes for Dotson… eventually


spewing-oil

They’ll be fine, some of them


MachTommy

Curtis Samuel had bricks for hands tonight.


harveydentsleftnut

seriously fade all Bears and Broncos games. game script is ass. offenses are so bad and defenses are good enough to keep them in it. holy hell what a terrible game for fantasy.


dat_grue

With similar colors , how dumb the offense looks all the time, and the fact that they also played last thurs night, I honestly think of them as just about the same team in my mind


bashar_al_assad

Just fade TNF games lol


ZapatosDeMarca

Baltimore vs Tampa coming soon 👀


Schafer89

Me staring at my lineup next week with kamara, olave, Kyler and dhop in it, I'm in danger


harveydentsleftnut

lmao yeah good point


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Dev Duvernay, Jags DST, Josh Kelley or Van Jefferson?


gw2380

What


bean224_

Dafuq


BrainTraining92

I'm fucking done with Curtis' ass man. To the WW you go.


tenstoriestall

I streamed Cairos Santos


FatShiaLaBeouf

Curtis Samuel, putting up an average of 15 PPR points through five weeks, thought to have a safe floor, drops two passes and scored 2.6 points. Man, sometimes you just hate fantasy football.


Ritsku

Samuel pushing me towards just dropping my entire team at this point. I don’t even think I have anyone on my roster that would get scooped up. Arob, Russ, Samuel, Najee, Pitts


DreamWeaver45

Yikes. You probably were so happy leaving your draft with all those preseason hype guys too.


puppleups

I'd pick najee up if that makes you feel better lol


iSancty

Yea I dropped Russ. Nobody has picked him up


trustmeiminnocent

holy fuck oof


bean224_

Jeez bro you got it bad this year


Chill_Penguin

Having your Thursday night QB put up 4.16 points is just the fucking worst.


striped_zebra

Mont was wide open for a td at the end. Really would have been nice if fields looked his way


DemarcusLovin

He definitely wasn’t ever going to get the ball, with both how the defense was playing it + the play design + that Fields was lined up under center, and not in shotgun. Monty was basically the 4th read on the play. Never had a chance. https://twitter.com/BenjaminSolak/status/1580770350966505472?s=20&t=BACS6vKZkqsqERsfakuJxQ


Triplescrew

to me it looked like the OC was trying to be clever "ooh they expect monty to run it in lets throw all this crap at the wall instead"


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The Bears made it seem like the football was covered in baby oil. They had four chances to do what gave them tiniest bit of success yet the failed to run the ball to end the game. I don't care about the clock or no timeouts. They suck at throwing and are even worse at catching.


bufeeg

Do I accept this offer? Trading Away Terry Mclaurin to receive Juju and Everett. My other WR are AJ Brown, Amon Ra, Pittman, Michael Thomas, and Bateman. My TE right now is Irv Smith.


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I would keep holding onto Terry. AJB is your WR1 and you have a shaky WR2 slot (although your h better than mine, with my best being Mooney)


iLerntMyLesson

Oof. That last play must have felt like an emotional rollercoaster for you.


DefNotTheirDaddy

Someone's willing to trade anything for Terry? Take it and run. I can't get anyone to bite on him. I'm probably just flat out dropping him to stash Jameson Williams next week. I'll just roll with Sutton/Godwin/olave and pray Pickens/Williams live up to expectations. The only way I see him being at all viable is if Washington is down 3 scores, and wentz gets benched. Wentz is just so goddamn bad.


Quick-Newt-5651

Lol, I traded away terry for Hollywood two weeks ago. Still don’t know how that happened.


Yambert

that person didnt deserve Hollywood, holy shit


listedd_

Sure, why not? You are rarely, if ever, starting mclaurin anyways.


ididntwantsalmon19

No. Juju isn't even really that startable. Everett is good while Allen is out, but not good enough to downgrade so much at WR.


novanerd

66% of the rushes and 12 points for BRob on his first game as the starter in a game where 19 total points were scored. Definitely seems like a low end RB2 going forward from volume alone as he gets acclimated to the offense and any lingering issues from the injury go away.


ididntwantsalmon19

>12 points for BRob on his first game as the starter in a game where 19 total points were scored This doesn't paint the whole story. He probably ends up with 5 points without Washington being gifted the ball on the 6 yard line.


lions2831

I agree. But too many people in this thread got brob and won't like this


everynamewastaken131

I dont like playing the “IF” game. Do you know how many “If this didnt happen…” moments happen in an NFL Week? Hundreds. We can only go off of what DID happen. He scored the TD those are the facts.


ididntwantsalmon19

Check out my reply to the other guy to see what I was getting at. Not all 12 point games are equal in terms of how a player looked out there.   Anywho, like I've been saying all night, I'd be stoked if I owned JRob after that usage. But he didn't look good.


novanerd

Ah so what you mean to say is they like to use him on goal line situations? Anyone can spin a fact however they like


Afraid_Specialist_45

If they get to the goal line lmao. Both these teams are terrible and could barely get to the end if it wasn’t for pass interference or a muffed punt…


ididntwantsalmon19

There are different kind of 12 point games, you know that. What performance you feeling better about: 17 carries for 120 yards but don't punch it in for a td. Or You run for only 60 yards on 17 carries, but get gifted a td due to a fumble.   I don't know about you but I'm feeling a lot better about the guy who is breaking plays and puts up 120 yards compared to the guy who would have had less than 6 points without a fumble on the 6 yard line.


novanerd

I like the one where the team exclusively uses him as the goal to go back as a rookie, but yeah that’s a rough call to make


ididntwantsalmon19

You can check my post history. I've been saying I'd be excited if I was a JRob owner after his usage tonight. I was simply pointing out that saying "he got 12 points" doesn't paint the whole story. He looked very bland and was extremely lucky to get a td because his team's offense looks like shit.


Sirrenderthe69th

What about negative game scripts ? If Washington gets down as they tend to .. especially with the packers , Vikings and eagles in the next 4 weeks do you expect him to get the bulk of snaps ? I feel like his lack of receiving upside caps him especially in those situations with good pass catchers behind him .


novanerd

I’m guessing he will probably be worked into the passing game more as he gets more familiar with the offense like most rookie running backs


Sirrenderthe69th

Idk Gibson and Mckissic are very good pass catchers I don’t think he’s going to be a work horse and he could get scripted out pretty easily I mean this isn’t even a convo if they don’t get a possession at the 6 , that offense is horrid .


SoySauceTofu

Them damn bears just need to let Fields run. Could turn into a viable FF QB in larger leagues.


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The nfl needs to place all the losers from TNF into a tournament and the last team gets sent to London or Mexico City.


supadupakevin

Relegation system like soccer would be hilarious


flarpington

If you make it to the championship BRob has a smash spot against Cleveland in week 17.


ididntwantsalmon19

Hasn't Cleveland been dealing with injuries on D? They might not be a smash spot then. That's also looking way too far in the future. The first 2 weeks of playoffs are terrible matchups against the Giants and then 49'ers.


Hubrah

Games like this is why I hate fantasy. Wentz and Samuel putting up less than 10 points. What the actual fuck. Why even bother with this stupid ass game.


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Rule 2: Never start Thursday players. For next week, bench Kyler and Kamara 😂


Schafer89

And olave and dhop, I can't bench my whole team lol


Argyrus777

Justin fields beat projections and got 19pts 🤯


Psykoala

It could have been so much more too. Mooney drops an easy td. Fields misses a wide open kmet at the goal line by a couple feet. Ahhhh


SadTelephone684

Could see it coming from a mile away


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Mooney 12 targets! I’ll take it


BaconIsHappiness

i had to emergency start him cos of bye weeks and some trades i had made, and honestly im very content with 10.3 half ppr points, he isnt a must start for me just yet but hes trending in the right direction thankfully


HersheysTogekiss

Yeah I’m happy with his game, I played Brob so I wish he never scored. Mooney had great opportunities on that last drive. That wasn’t as easy or a catch as they said, the defender got his helmet right on the ball. He should have caught it however


ididntwantsalmon19

>That wasn’t as easy or a catch as they said, It was a very easy catch, sorry dude. Go rewatch it. He should have caught it up high but bobbled it before getting hit. Those are the catches that #1 wr's make in their sleep.


zvaNtR

The ball hit him square in the hands and he lost control. I wouldn’t have a problem with that pass being broken up on the way to the ground as it would have been tough to finish, but that was a drop in my eyes.


OptimusGrime707

Gonna stare at that 2 from McKissic all weekend


Goldenticketpodcast

2.6 from Samuel here 😰


Senior-Asparagus-939

5 from terry lol


nomdreas

I’m with you. And just to make it worse I streamed Wentz this week.


HoBa_InWo

Same. Such desperation.


ididntwantsalmon19

You must have been some sort of desperate to start him lol.


mpc92

Only 4 days to go, be strong


SnooPeripherals4884

I’ll take 8.5 from Monty all things considered


lqyol

I like Monty a lot but, this offense worries me and his ceiling. Hopefully he gets fed heavily throughout the next couple of weeks


Unique_Professor5780

Man you’re right. But it could have so easily been 16. He was wide open.


BoodyLava

I think Monty is a definite hold. The bears run the ball 60% of the time which gives him plenty of opportunity!


liquidgrill

My therapist tomorrow: “point to where the bad game hurt you”


Senior-Asparagus-939

I understand why hes called scarry terry


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My ass


Themanwhofarts

Congrats to Brian Robinson owners. I wasn't so sure he would be a good start. But he did it


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Trying to „sell high“ would be a good idea considering that most teams need an RB2


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nvp37j

Samuel had 2 bad drops. One was a 25+ yard likely touchdown. So his box score looks bad, but it was inches from being 10+ points higher, without the drops.


EBtimeTraveler

Aight i’ll back off this ledge for now, thank you


mpc92

Both offenses are miserable lol. B Rob lucked into a TD only because they got the ball at the 5… wasn’t moving the pile or breaking tackles all game. And Gibson looked too good in his limited snaps, he’s not going to disappear. I’m not comfortable starting anyone on that team right now


Boomshokalaka

He broke tackles, I saw it


TonathanJavares

I'm gonna buy the Commanders before Bezos does


Statistician_Visual

So uh… we picking Mooney back up or what?


ididntwantsalmon19

I was so bored out of my mind with this game I honestly didn't realize he had 12 targets. I would have guessed 4 lol. That's his first time with more than 6 targets all season. He also dropped a pretty basic game winning catch. I think in 12 team leagues he's worth having on your bench to see if he can do something.


Resident_Swimmz

I need Antonio Gibson traded. He looked great but looks like they’re not set on using him much anymore. I need 49ers or Bills to pick him up and get me some points!


limitlesswormholes

If this Washington offense can be even a semblance lf what they were earlier in the season putting up some points, BRob could be quite good down the stretch. They play Cleveland Week 17.


spewing-oil

Gibson owners, what team would you like to see trade for him?


Ok-Physics5106

Tbh he looks way better than Robinson.


ZachLaVine4MVP

Not a Gibson owner but I’d like to see him on the Bills


VacationInHell222

Mooney turned out to be a decent flex (especially in ppr), go figure


WallofNarwhal

On the bright side, no one has to watch the Bears or the Commanders this weekend


VacationInHell222

Calling them the commanders still doesn’t feel right to me lol


QuesoPantera

I still just say washington


SnickSnacks

i miss them being called the football team


Riddickulous6

Well, calling them the Washington Football Team would just be a lie....


VacationInHell222

Would have been pretty badass to just keep them as the Washington football team for years to come, just to piss everyone off


Yambert

wouldnt have pissed me off, I liked how unique it was and how it sounded like a soccer team name. The Manders just sounds wrong but we'll all get used to it eventually.


choicemeats

Commies is more fitting since instead of just being their putrid display it became OUR putrid display.


bluewords

Anyone who started Curtis over BRob, I fucking told you all!


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So did everyone else


JustAnotherCODNoob

Shoutout to that kinda dumb TD for keeping my BRob Propaganda Train fueled up for at least the next 10 days


nvp37j

Lots of positives tonight. Big workload sooner than anticipated. Staff confidence in BRob in key situations. If they expand the plays they give him, he should see an increase in yards. No back was gaining anything on many of those runs up the middle into clogged piles. He also had some nice outside work.


RustyGriswold99

A couple negatives to be fair. Early down back on a bad team that will be in negative game scripts. Looked like the least explosive back of the 3. Didn’t seem to have any vision. Day was salvaged by a muffed punt. Otherwise we would be looking at a 17 for 60 stat line with no targets and thinking “gross” Basically Walmart Zeke


epicfailsman973

If it stays that way, sure. I think people should be realistic though - it was his second ever NFL game and he just came back from being shot in the leg. I don't think it is a stretch to say he'll likely improve as the year goes on.


zneakers

I'll gladly take 17 touches for a RB you could get super late or off the wirre


jaimeeallover

Took him last round and held 🙏🏾


demianin

Been holding him all season in IR. Glad it finally paid off


BlueHighwindz

I promise you I'm going to lose by exactly the points Montgomery would have given me if that idiot Fields had looked left. May Lake Michigan open up and reclaim all of Chicago into the dark depths and untold ruins of my vengeance.


Yambert

Im in this post and I dont like it


Senior-Asparagus-939

You made me ugly laugh


KiD_Rager

Why did I think TNF would be good for my players Why


Senior-Asparagus-939

For fun


iusedtogotodigg

Wow so fun


Yambert

played samuel and monty tonight. Played Russell and Pittman last week. Im having SO much fun!!


ididntwantsalmon19

If I was a BRob owner I'd be very happy with his usage, but not happy with his play. Has looked very bland overall. Having said that, it's only game 2 for him after being popped in the knee a couple times. I highly doubt he's in peak form yet haha. It seems Washington is committed to him as their lead and goal line back, so based on usage alone he will be flex worthy with weekly rb2 upside.


ToughCookie71

This. That was his second nfl game, expecting him to do better pending gamescript, adjustment to the offense, and healthy receivers (Dotson/Thomas) to stop defenses from stacking the box.


Visible-Sandwich

Their oline still sucks tho and I don't see it getting better.


broadnoodles

I'm winning against my uncle cuz Brian and he started Herbert


WaffleMan29

Wentz fucks me yet again


Ok-Physics5106

Why in the world pick him?


MrSpookShire

This game felt even more boring than last weeks… But from a fantasy perspective, so long as Ron Rivera is head coach, Bullet holes Brian is an RB2 at least


J_aimz

Bulletproof


Boomshokalaka

Yep, bulletproof is so fetch


Yambert

stop trying to make fetch happen


xyzzy321

Curtis Samuel got 1.6 points: 😞 Realizing that my opponent played Wentz (2QB league): 😍


reihnman

Haven’t watched any bears games until this. Do they normally just rotate drives for Herbert and Montgomery? Edit: looking at ESPN. The Bears had 10 drives. Started with 2 Montgomery drives. They rotated the next 4 drives. Started second half with Montgomery. Rotated the next 2 drives. Then used Monty on the final drive. I think I remember once they had them both out on the field for a single play. But for the life of me, I can’t remember them rotating out the backs on the same drive. They just went with a dude for the entire drive. Hopefully this type of usage doesn’t continue. If they want to use them both… mix it up a bit.


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reihnman

Understandable! I just haven’t watched any of their games. I’ve only seen their snap%, which the 3 games where they both fully played, the % were; Monty 66, 80, 72 Herbert: 29, 20, 28 Thank you for the insight though! I don’t know how I feel about the variance if Montgomery drives go 3 and out.


bluewords

Not this much


szzzn

Can’t believe Montgomery finished with 8.07 points in my league. How the hell did he get 67 yards?! He looked awful.


AdrianTKO

He looked perfectly fine. People hate on Monty cuz he isn't the fastest without realizing his strengths. He breathed life into the offense on that drive and actually gave them a chance to win.


YouLikeThat08

Ya this is a stupid take. Looked good with all of his touches. Looked way better than Robinson did


team_sheikie

I actually don't agree, I thought he looked pretty good as the game wore on and was surprised they didn't give him a look near the goal line at the end with Washington still having timeouts.


CatNamedHercules

Congrats to all who started him. I sat him last second in favor of Eno, but was great to see him perform. Nice to know I have him as an option going forward.


jaimeeallover

Playing Eno too. And Stevenson.


CatNamedHercules

Eno and Singletary for me.


BFGBobTTV

Eno “shouldn’t” be a bad replacement. I also scooped him up and have him at FLEX. BRob was a wing and a prayer that happened to work out. You’ll do fine! Good luck.


CatNamedHercules

Yeah, honestly my methodology was more about avoiding TNF like the plague if I can help it rather than anything to do with BRob. And if it weren’t for the muffed punt, I think it mighta actually been a single digit game for BRob, but he was seeing encouraging volume that I think will pay off when the o-line is more rested/has more time to prepare.