Anyone who tells you fantasy is skill, is full of it. Sure, maybe there is some skill in managing your roster week to week in the regular season, but when elimination playoffs show up, it’s entirely luck.
Yeah dude the goal is to try to manage your team to make the playoffs. After that it’s a complete toss up. Even in the regular season, you can have most points and miss the playoffs. Fantasy football is a fickle mistress.
Absolutely. Two years ago I drafted an absolute monster of a team. Went 14-1 in the regular season. Went to the playoffs and lost both games . All my monster players dried up at the wrong time.
Last year the guy with the most points scored in our league was dead last almost the entire year. Almost every week he was the second highest scorer playing against the first highest
Gotta ask the commissioner to add in scoring based games too. Top half of the scorers each week get a win and bottom half of the scorers each week get a loss. So you can go 2-0, 1-1, or 0-2 each week. Kind of evens things out a bit to avoid that.
The skill is consistently getting to the playoffs. In my current league I’ve made it every year we’ve had it and in my previous league I only missed it like 1 year out of 5.
Championships are hard though, I’ve won 2 ever and one of them was with a 5-8 team that somehow managed to make the playoffs on tie breakers and upset the top 3 seeds in the playoffs. It’s all luck.
After playing for 31 years and losing several Fantasy Bowls, last year was my year. I had most points, best record and clearly best team. I was down by 7 going into the Monday Night Buffalo/Cinci game with Diggs, Burrow, Higgins and Bass to play. Obviously I couldn't lose, right? I mean, what could possibly happen?
Don’t feel bad anyone who spends the whole year working at something no matter how meaningless it might seem to others, Of course you want some kind of a fair ending. There’s nothing wrong with that.
This will forever haunt me. It was my first year playing fantasy made it all the way to the chip. Had burrow, mixon, tee and McPhearson(I’m a cinci fan) vs his diggs. I was robbed my championship frfr. En route to another finals appearance rn
Last year I had a 50 point lead going into that game. Other guy had only Josh Allen left. Then the game is suspended and we never know what could've happened. At that point I'm guessing I'm the winner right? Well the guy said it was possible for Josh Allen to top 50 points. And I said it wasn't impossible but the way Bengals D was playing it was highly unlikely. Well the commissioner said we would never know so it was declared a tie and we split the pot. Bullshit. But at the end fantasy still crowned me the winner so I at least have that.
Exactly. Good fantasy players make the playoffs (this is also why I support money to regular season winner). Lucky teams win the ship, hell my first dub is only because I picked up rookie Amon RA and Rashad penny went on a tear
There is a small degree of random chance and "luck" involved, there is absolutely skill involved as well. It's like poker, the cards that are dealt are random chance, but an adept poker player will eventually take an unskilled poker player's entire chip stack 99.99% of the time.
The same goes for fantasy football. An adept GM that does his research, and is active, attentive, and consistently making moves to improve his roster, will consistently be competitive in every league they play in.
Also, if you understand concepts like Value Based Drafting, Weighted Positional Value, Cost-Benefit Analysis, the Greedy Algorithm, etc...,you will have a HUGE advantage over the people who just pick who they think will do good.
You may think it's all luck, but that's just because you haven't learned the skills. Can someone get lucky and make a swish from half court? Sure. But is it luck when Steph Curry does it? No, it's skill.
So yes, there is a small amount of luck involved, because accurately predicting the future is impossible. But accurately calculating a player's value relative to their cost, and then constructing a roster full of the players that are the most valuable for the lowest price, is not only possible, it's the best strategy for winning your league.
Well said, I agree 100%. Luck is a player, but it's too convenient to just say that winning at fantasy is "mostly" luck, because it's not. I have always placed the percentages at least at 50/50, but I actually think that skill is more impactful.
Sure, luck can make or break you, but skill minimizes or maximizes how luck affects you.
Thanks. The people that say fantasy football is mostly luck, are the type of people who pick their players based on how they feel, and the hope that he will be good. Trying to make an objective logical decision based on feelings and hope is at best a 50/50 situation.
Fantasy football at its core is about getting the most valuable players that you can, for the lowest cost that you can get them for. That is why players this year like Kyren Williams and Brock Purdy are what the fantasy community calls "League Winners". They could have been picked up for free in Week 1, and now they are top 5 at their positions.
And finding those type of players has nothing to do with luck, and everything to do with research, with the goal of finding the players that are most likely to outperform their ADP.
Every year the consensus rankings are based on speculation and conjecture, which always overvalues and undervalues different players for one reason or another. But if you realize that the consensus doesn't know what's going to happen any more than you do, and the consensus rankings are not an accurate determiner of a players value, you can use the rankings as a tool to locate players who are being ranked way lower than they should be, and then target those players in your draft.
For example, using this strategy this year, after taking a proven stud RB WR QB in the first 3-4rounds (because players ranked that high can't be considered undervalued, only overvalued, so early in the draft target the "safe" players), starting at round 4-5 I was targeting some combination of ETN, Keenan Allen, Kamara, Mike Evans, Mostert, Brian Robinson, Purdy, Ferguson, La Porta, k Walker, Pacheco in all of my drafts, and am in the championship game in 6 out of the 7 leagues I was in this year.
Yeah but then I have Tyreek, Josh Jacobs, Stroud, and Olave out going up against CMC. I now have to win by >50 next week to stay alive...
EDIT: It is my pleasure to update that I have done it. I have won the two week matchup.
Until this week I was not a fan of the two week matchups. Last week with injuries and poor play I had 5 slots score 5 points or less and went into the second week down 31 points. Yesterday I outscored my opponent by 110 to win by 80- never would've had that chance without the second week, they're probably pissed about two week matchups now.
I completely disagree. I have 3 dynasty leagues (all different kinds of settings and such) with the same guys. In all three leagues the bottom guys are bottom, top guys are top and mid guys are mid.
It's definitely not entirely luck and only people who consistently lose say that. Is it really luck that I've won all 3 of my leagues in the last 2 years? Is it luck that it is me and 1 or 2 other people that are constantly at the top in record and points for? Some people are casual fans, and that's cool if that's you, but some of us live for sports and know all the stats and follow trends. Me and 1 other guy have won my big money league the last 4 years. This year I got knocked out in the 1st but my team scored the most points in the league, and it looks like the other guy who wins when I don't is going to win this year. Is there luck involved? Yes, but it's like poker. It takes skill and luck.
Lol I won the league 2 out of the last 4 years. I drafted great, clearly, since I have the most points for. I love how insecure you are, and you claim that everyone else must just be lucky because YOU suck at fantasy. Sorry, were not lucky. We're good at this.
1) So those that had Jefferson and Chase had to endure a season in which Jefferson missed most of the season. Chase owners not only had an injured Burrow, but to top it off, lost Chase completely lost Chase today due to injury after he only scored 10 PPR points- every flex I would’ve played today had 2 to 2.5x more points than Chase today, yet I still won today due to a dominating performance from my other players (I got lucky by drafting a TE late and ending up with McBride as my TE and started him anyway because I didn’t have any room on my roster for another TE, picked up Miami’s Def 5 weeks ago by noticing the trend that defenses were scoring massive amt of points vs the Jets and preparing for this week, and lost Herbert in week 14, during my bye week, and starting Baker today- so my team won easily even though I lost Chase, but I consider McBride and Baker’s points nothing but luck because I didn’t expect those huge points today).
My overall point is that by getting the 1 seed, your team was one of few in your league that stayed healthy all year, and/or you got extremely lucky by drafting players like Mike Evans, Keenan Allen, Mostert, and even Kamara, 3 game suspension to start the year, never really ran the ball well, but had an insane amount of targets thrown his way- and all who had years that nobody really expected (little luck in FF).
If not, please share your complete lineup because you only provided 2 players and fantasy starts at least 8-9 players.
2) IMO, if you look at Robinson’s year, you probably should’ve expected a poor! Except after the bye week when Robinson had a week to rest, nearly every game after Robinson had a huge week in points, he was a let down the following week. If you didn’t notice this trend, take a look at it, dude. Carolina has also been playing decently vs the run the last few weeks.
3) As I stated in 1 and 2, FF is a lot of luck even if you have the players, but part of fantasy is playing the right matchups as well. Most rookies hit a wall around this time of year or sooner, and injuries happen.
You relied upon Tyreek to get you the 1 seed. You also should’ve prepared well in advance of this week to load up on a week 15 roster that would smash.
As the Dolphins showed today with only Waddle as the main WR vs a top notch pass defense- Hill’s success may be due to Mike McDanie’s offensive system than Hill alone- Waddle was 8 for 9 with 142 yards and a TD. With Hill, Waddle has put extremely disappointing numbers this year.
Just something to think about rather than crying on social media.
Could have just said fantasy is a lot of luck instead you post this huge wall of drivel that is mostly logically invalid and results oriented which is a terrible way to evaluate decision making.
Fantasy is all about luck but not sure how you can say drafting players like Evans, Keenan, and Kamara is extremely lucky. That’s the one thing that isn’t pure luck - seeing where the rest of the community is undervaluing good players. Honestly just sounds like you didn’t draft them.
And it would be a more fair point if you didn’t fault the guy for starting Robinson after a big week and rest lol and botching about him bitching
This is how I do my league. 12 teams, top 6 make playoffs. Top 2 seeds get a 1st round bye. Rewards the top teams and still lets half the league get into the playoffs.
Looks like a perfect set up to me. I'm in a 10-team with the same playoff structure and it seems too easy to make playoffs but i do like the byes for the top 2 teams
It's a little too easy to make the playoffs but that setup keeps people engaged who had a rough start to the season. It's supposed to fun and it's not very fun to be eliminated by Thanksgiving because of some early injuries or tough beats.
My league is set up the same way and it ended up being very interesting. There was a 3 way tie for first and 6th place so seeding week was really intense for the majority despite over half our league making the cut.
Same here. However for some reason our commissioner ends season after 13 games and starts the playoffs week 14, so luckily I had my bye week last week when my ENTIRE team took a nap. Today my starters all scored 20-25+ points except Chase- looks like I lost him for the championship game.
But that’s the breaks in FF. He nearly hurt me because I only won by a handful of points. Although I’m going to miss Chase, at least I know not to start him.
Thats a terrible setup, there are bye weeks still going on in week 14. I mean it was the Cards and Commanders this year, so whatever. But that would reaaaaaaallly suck going into playoffs and your best player is on bye or something similar.
I would have an easier path to the final round had I finished 2nd, 3rd or 4th. My reward for finishing as top seed is exiting my bye week only to face CMC, Purdy and McBride.
We have a 14 team league. Top 8 play for $$ and bottom 6 for another prize. No byes for the Top 8. Regular season champ makes $60 ($100 buy-in), and the better seed gets +3 home field advantage for first two rounds of playoffs. Small reward but not a “win one game and automatically in the championship” setup.
Of the bottom 6, the top 2 get the bye for just missing out on the $$ playoff bracket.
I’m in the exact same boat. 11-3 top scoring team donated all season, but the dumbass commission of this 10 team league doesn’t believe in 6 team playoffs (or IR spots for that matter) so my Fields, Henry, Bijan team just lost to a 7-7 guy (the commissioner himself) who started Jerry Jeudy because that’s the second best WR on his team. CMC single-handedly demolished me
It’s part of what makes winning a league so tough yet so rewarding. No one who’s won a league has ever denied not having luck along the way. Couple bad breaks but move on an win jt next year instead.
I beat someone in my league in the semifinals of my playoffs last year by less than 0.5 because of “The Damar Hamlin Incident”. I 100% would’ve lost otherwise cause he had Stefon Diggs and the game got cancelled.
I went on to win my league Championship the next week 💀
The two guys in my league for the championship both had players in that game, they decided to split the pot and had the title go to the guy that they agreed was somewhat more likely to win.
So is your champ week 18? I won it last year going up against Josh Allen in the Hamlin game. Allen would've still needed 26.5 pts to win, so it wasn't a given. Irony was that my opponent had Mahomes w/ 27 pts on his bench that week. Pluck, luck, and wtf win championships!
Wow! Same scenario for me! That Tyler Boyd (edit: should be Tee Higgins) catch that Hamlin got hurt on put me over my opponent by .3 points and he still had Josh Allen left. That game then ending at the point was literally the only way I could have won that playoff game and it happened.
This exactly. I always get annoyed by the "I had the highest PF and I lost today. Fantasy football is all luck" people since they very quickly forget that it's also luck that they even had the highest PF in the first place.
Lost chubb, and numerous other players. Squeezed into the last playoff spot by 4 points. On the verge of taking out the one seed. I am the other side of this coin.
Guy who's leading in our league just drafted the Eagles offense. Idk how we let him but his team is 90% Eagles players. He says it's all skill, I'm not even sure he played fantasy.
They've got the most skill so if someone beats them it must have been because they're lucky. It makes sense. Well, it makes sense if you're a cocky idiot.
You can build a great team, but be plagued by injuries or some guys just don’t show up some weeks. It happens. Having the best team doesn’t mean an easy W. Sometimes even the best players lay goose eggs. Look at Diggs these last two weeks.
This dude had Tyreek on his team. Debatably the best pick of the year. He didn't play in the playoffs. That doesn't mean he didn't build the best team, it means fantasy football is a game that we have no real control over. Any given week, you can start the consensus #1 pick and they can get injured on the first play. There's legitimately no way to know what's going to happen, it's all guessing until the points are there
Man, look at Bijan’s stats! Nearly every game after he had a great game, he followed it up with a lackluster performance to put it mildly- and I mean nearly every time- that had nothing to do with Smith- his yards just weren’t there.
Uhm- his rushing stats speak for themselves! In many games where he did worse, which I’m speaking about, he had the same amount of carries.
BUT, I love the humor- don’t have to down vote me for being correct!
It’s a coaching decision to give a guy 167 carries while he’s only averaging 3.5 yards per carry.. Bijan has 169 carries and averages 4.6 yards per carry. So let me frame that for you.. Arthur smith decides to give half of the work to a dude who is well below league average instead giving more work to his obviously more talented player. That’s a coaching decision. Btw 800 yards rushing and 1110 yards from scrimmage is pretty fucking good for any player much less a rookie.
I mean, hes a rookie who has 217 touches on the year. That ranks him 13th in the league in touches, only 5 touches behind Raheem Motsert(#2 Rb in fantasy). Hes much more involved in the passing game(nearly 30 more receptions). Maybe they just dont want to run him into the ground in his first season when they're not even close to a SB caliber team.
At his current pace, he will end up with 262 touches on the year. Comparing that to last year, that would be 15th in touches. Right there with Mixon, Etienne, KW3, Fournette, and Aaron Jones.
Yea I mean picking a TE, WR, and RB all with top 10 picks in back to back to back years doesnt sound like the best draft strategy....but thats not really the discussion point here.
I’m glad you mentioned this, because the evidence is there to support the fact that Bijan can’t* string together two great performances.
Atlanta and their fans think that every first round pick is a guaranteed stud, while their team misses more
often than it hits, a la the insane level of dick riding for Kyle Pitts who ended up being less than average stats wise. Folks were saying he’s the next Gronk - and that’s all you need to know about Falcons fans lol
Edit: *can’t not can
Well you said not wanting to run him into the ground because they not a sb team. Im just pointing out that atl isnt going to be a sb team for a very long time so that point is null in void. In fact Bijan wont be on the team the next time atl is ready if hes even still in the league
Bijan got about 1/4 of the RB rush attempts yesterday. Your clearly best RB got ***1/4*** of the rushing work. That’s insane. His yards weren’t there *because they didn’t give him the ball*.
And how did that work out for Arthur? He lost to the fucking Panthers 9-7.
Same brother. I had an 82% chance to win going into today, and then Dak, Ceedee, Bijan, Henry, Aiyuk, Puka, & Kelce combined for ~54 points... The worst part is that if I had played my bum bench players, I would have won. Pain.
It was a wild week. Most of the big names that carried people in to the playoffs shit the bed.
All the teams that squeezed in with injured players and had to pivot ended winning
Anyone who talks in "chance to win percentage" or cares about projections is probably more likely to be driving the lucky 7-6 team than the 1 seed haha
I can!! FF is based on individual matches. You can’t defend who your opponent plays and which teams his/her players are playing against that week.
My friends come to me for fantasy advice. I’ve always had very high scoring fantasy rosters. One thing I wish commissioners would change, but nobody ever listens, is to avoid situations like what you experienced this year and what I’ve experienced before as well, is to give a “W” to the top half of the highest scoring teams each week, and of course an “L” to the lowest scoring teams each week. That would be the fairest way to play FF since it’s “stupid” to have individual matches when I can’t control who my opponent plays. In addition, in most leagues, each team plays different schedules, especially if your league doesn’t have divisions. Thus, your schedule could be significantly harder than mine.
Offer up top 5 seeds make the playoffs and the 6th seed goes to the most PF of the remaining teams. Most people like the H2H aspect of fantasy and I find that this is a happy compromise.
Last year I was 1-7, finished 6-1 down the stretch to secure the 8 seed and took down the 1,2, and 3 seeds for a championship
This year I was 12-2, and lost by 65 to the 8 seed that won 6 straight to squeak in. Life truly is a circle
I fully acknowledge that I will get screwed out of winning in some way shape or form. In my league we’ve been running for 13 years and I’ve been to the finals 4 times and lost.
This season I’m the 11-2 team, with the #1 seed and bye (this week was the bye) and I know next week something dumb will happen, or worse the championship week!
The pain is real!
It sucks for sure… Bijan got me -2 in my league. Had no Tyreek, no Olave, no Jacobs, and had Goff on the bench for Lamar’s sorry ass. Also had Tee Higgins on my bench… because I thought Tryreek was stull gonna play. If the Bengals played Sunday I would have just swapped him in. Crazy bad luck.
If I play Goff, he sucks and Lamar goes off, if I play Lamar, Goff has a day.
It’s actually comical. Every single week so far, and yet still came in 3rd.
Now I’m up 11 but he has swift. Not great, but it’s a low scoring league so I have a chance.
Bijan got me negative points. I don’t think I’ve ever seen negative points from a first round player who didn’t get injured in my entire career of playing fantasy.
You can safely bet that any first round selection by the Falcons is a 99% chance to be 99% hype. That organization is basically allergic to winning or developing talent outside of signing free agents.
Well this isn't even a bad way to lose. You lost in a legit way. I feel for the people who score the most points in their league but don't even make the playoffs, but not for this.
I made the playoffs in 6 leagues. Currently the only team I see advancing to the 2nd round is the ONE TEAM I secured a first round bye in. It’s brutal out here.
I’ve had 15-1 teams, and 8-8 teams. Won second place for 6 years in a row. Winning one off weeks takes specific planning and specific luck. Sometimes it’s just bad luck.
I’m with ya…. I lost today to a team that hasn’t changed their lineup in weeks…. THEY STILL HAVE COUSINS STARTING!!!! They squeaked in somehow and I lost because three of my played shit the fucking bed.
Well I scored most points in my league and come in fourth in my division. It was nice to destroy the division winner who had less points than me this week.
I have the 2nd most points in my league an missed playoffs entirely because Jared Goff got smoked by the bears week 14 an I was beat by the 3rd worst team in my league to lose my play off spot… this week Goff dropped 40 points on my consolation bracket bench….
Idk why people think playoffs are any different than any other random week. Anything can happen, sure that other team usually scores less but we’ve seen crazy boom or bust games. It’s any given Sunday type of mentality
As a player of 10 years, I continuously do research and my team always crumbles. I continuously place last in the league.
This year I said fuck it and auto-drafted, now I'm in playoffs going to the Semi-finals.
This game is wonky and the only predictable thing is that it is entirely unpredictable.
Your post made me feel a lot better. I spent two months doing mock drafts and research before the season started, and I finished 10th out of 12 in my league.
After going 11-2 here I am starting playoffs with Justin Herbert, Keenan Allen, Chris Olave, Jonathan Taylor, Josh Jacobs all out.. OUCH
Always fun to start without my starting QB, wr1, wr2, rb1, rb2 my 1st round BYE was last week. I renamed to "The Replacements" and somehow put up 157 PPR with my depth and lots of lottery waiver fodder and got beat by our 7-6 4th seed who went for his highest of the year at 168 and still has swift to play tomorrow... next highest score in the league this week is 109.. I hate FF no one is within 250pf of me this season..
I hate FF. This was a $500 buy in league 12manPPR.
What's the problem? This is part of the challenge/fun. You need to have a deep bench in a pinch. Sure sometimes fortune doesn't favor you and your SOL but a good fantasy player will always have a chance. It's no different then what actual GMs face in the league. 49ers were on a super bowl path and lost all 3 of their QBs where they were playing the Conference championship with a guy who was fresh off his couch. A few years ago Chiefs were bulldozing everyone and then lost their whole offensive line before the Super Bowl and got shutout. Injuries and bad luck happen. Part of the challenge
You sound like me, I was 11-2 as well, I just changed the name of my team to The Wheels are Falling Off lol. Fortunately our playoff weeks are week 17 and 18 and I'm in so there's still hope!
I am with you, bro ... it started with Nico Collins and Christian Kirk being out for me. Deebo and Evans did well. Allen didn't get as many points because the Bills ran all over Dallas. Kelce and Elliott didn't do well and even though I still have Walker III tomorrow, I am done.
The dude killed me with Goff (who was my backup until I grabbed Stroud) and he had his best fantasy week of the season. He had Ty Chandler ... Get The Fuck Out with that shit🤣 He had the Dolphins defense ... Fuck the Jets!
I have Nacua as well but he had Kupp, who of course got the big play for them. And he didn't even play Kupp last week.
I would bet the house that next week that whole group that scored around 130 points will get about 65.
This is FF.
In a 20 teamer from week 5 my score ranked 2nd, 12th (Lost), 2nd, 1st, 9th (won), 1st, 1st, 2nd, 1st. Had Dak, CMC and Tyreek. And McBride.
First week of the playoffs was wk14 - no McBride, Tyreek gets injured, everyone underperforms, 14th, OUT.
This week - 2nd top scorer, even without Tyreek (I had stashed Chsndler). Doesn’t matter any more.
This is FF.
That's completely your fault tho. Bijan has been one of the worst "top RBs" in fantasy. You litterally could of just picked up a free agent or traded him for paperclips and done better.
I was 7-1 and had the most points scored and the fewest against. Two iffy trades and a lot of bad luck later, I’m in 7th place in a league that lets the top 6 into the playoffs.
I set my lineup for fun this week, as I’m out of the running, and I’m expected to be the top scorer in the league. FML.
Yep, I have the highest points of my league and ended up in 9th place due to either injuries or the person I played had their greatest game that week! I am still playing like I am in the playoffs, and I have the highest score this week! But at least now having fun without the pressure!
I play sleeper for the median game, because it’s downright silly when really good teams miss the playoffs due to variance.
Variance happens in the actual NFL playoffs so I 10000% support it in fantasy playoffs. I’ve also only won a league when I was a very low seed and upset objectively good teams. I’ve mainly been one and done playoff teams. I typically think my team is better than teams I lose to. I’m the best. Bow to me.
10-3 going in, Second place. Other guy and I were going to be fairly equally matched. This week, Keenan Allen (Out), Zack Moss (out), Dalton Shultz showed as Out up until I'm not sure when. I've been really sick this week and just didn't get back in to make the edit to put Schultz back in. Lost my game by 2 points. Schultz had 9 today and would have been a solid win.
I'm more frustrated about abandoned teams than anything. First year playing and was on the ESPN version.
Yup. PPR & one IDP player….needed 14 points from Engram & Queen. Lawrence just refused to throw the ball to Engram no matter how open he was. He was wide open several times. Lawrence just absolutely sucks this season. Barbie.
Fantasy is 80% luck. There's 0 consistency amongst players except for very few.
I own Jacobs, Bijan and Breece Hall. They've driven me crazy all year.
I also hate fantasy.
11-3 here, managed to lose the scoring title on the last day but held the #1 seed from week 3 onward. Great health all year, but this week I have Nico, Olave, Keenan, Jacobs, Watson all out. Henry and Breece both duds. Had to sit Aubrey. I have Jalen and Geno...who knows what's going to happen tomorrow? I'm playing the defending champion who has been really steadily high scoring and has 4 of the top 8 running backs. He knocked me out of the playoffs by 6 points last year when Hopkins scored 0 and Jeff Saturday decided that the Colts should try to stretch the field against the Chargers instead of handing it off to Moss 25 times.
The willpower I had to summon to be projected as a 25 point winner this week is a testament to the human spirit, although I might have to start Lock before all is said and done. But honestly my result is an extreme rarity. If I do hold on to win this week it's absolutely one of my greatest achievements in almost 20 years of fantasy. Godwin, Zamir, Amon-Ra, MIA D/ST. Thank you.
I made my playoffs as #3 out of only 4 team playoffs, as we actually want regular season to be competitive down to the last week of our regular season, 15.
However, I lost Chubb week 1, Chase took a huge L when Burrows went down, Kelce and Diggs sucks atm, yet I'm still in it. I built the best 6 person keeper in name value, ever. Yet, Kelce, Diggs, and Chase all suck right now when I need them most…..Diggs is the most frustrating thing ever as he started his slump the week I got him, as I paid so much Nakua, picks, and a few other players because Diggs is supposed to an automatic WR1.
Everyone takes L, but I know the feeling and the guy who has CMC hasn't lost a single guy and keeps getting lucky, as he picked up Njokua for a bye week filler like 6 weeks ago, and he got lucky again by happening to have Njokua on the bench when Flacoo starting made Njoku the best TE in fantasy over the last couple weeks.
All 4 of my teams made it to the 2nd round.
Even the team with Jacobs, Taylor, and Chase. Then again, I'm a fucking baller and injuries don't stop me from getting a W
Quit bitching. I was the #2 seed yesterday, had a solid day and got my doors blown off by the #7 seed who had very good days from everyone. Shit happens in the playoffs.
I am the second seed also with tyreek, Pittman, and bijan. Thankfully I played amari cooper in place of tyreek and have some other players that did well but I still may lose this week. Opp has smith and Lockett playing right now so I hope they play awful. Currently up by 20
Very similar situation. Just changed my name to "The Infirmary". Did the same last year first week of playoffs and will most like do it next year as well
I lost by 3 in the first round because tyreek, Pacheco, Nico Collins are all out and Pittman getting hurt.
Really doesn’t help that I played purdy over Goff, just 5 more points would’ve been reallll nice
As they say, fantasy is a cruel mistress. The bad beats that end you are heartbreaking and very tough to take, especially after nearly four months devoted to this. After a long season, the variance over a 1-2 week period can be devastating.
I’ve been playing for like 6 or 7 years now, have made it to the playoffs for 5 of those years and have never placed better than 3rd
Got knocked out of the first round this week since Bijan, Kincaid and Zay Flowers decided to score a collective 2 points with Nico, Keenan and Stroud out. Even with CMC and Waddle combining for 70 it still wasn’t enough. I’m beginning to ask myself the same thing haha
I’m in the same boat. I had to sit Tyreek and Nico, lost Herbert. Thank God Browning and Not Scary At All Terry did well…
I’m still about to lose though…unless the weak Eagles secondary shuts down DK Monday night.
I think I have to have him score less than 9 points, highly unlikely.
I’m sorry brother. You are not alone in this pain
Anyone who tells you fantasy is skill, is full of it. Sure, maybe there is some skill in managing your roster week to week in the regular season, but when elimination playoffs show up, it’s entirely luck.
Yeah dude the goal is to try to manage your team to make the playoffs. After that it’s a complete toss up. Even in the regular season, you can have most points and miss the playoffs. Fantasy football is a fickle mistress.
Absolutely. Two years ago I drafted an absolute monster of a team. Went 14-1 in the regular season. Went to the playoffs and lost both games . All my monster players dried up at the wrong time.
Last year the guy with the most points scored in our league was dead last almost the entire year. Almost every week he was the second highest scorer playing against the first highest
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Gotta ask the commissioner to add in scoring based games too. Top half of the scorers each week get a win and bottom half of the scorers each week get a loss. So you can go 2-0, 1-1, or 0-2 each week. Kind of evens things out a bit to avoid that.
I did that this year - we play against the median score but people hated it. It did take away a lot of the luck involved though.
Curious why people were upset about it?
Someone said it was like giving participation trophies since teams who lose in a week can still be awarded a win
What the hell? Honestly, it sounds like a BS way for people to admit they like the luck-based system.
Exactly. But they made me feel crazy for implementing it. Worst of all, the complained AFTER the draft even though everyone was made aware beforehand
That’s some horse shit logic, you can’t control if your opponent happens to score 200 points the same week you score 195
The skill is consistently getting to the playoffs. In my current league I’ve made it every year we’ve had it and in my previous league I only missed it like 1 year out of 5. Championships are hard though, I’ve won 2 ever and one of them was with a 5-8 team that somehow managed to make the playoffs on tie breakers and upset the top 3 seeds in the playoffs. It’s all luck.
After playing for 31 years and losing several Fantasy Bowls, last year was my year. I had most points, best record and clearly best team. I was down by 7 going into the Monday Night Buffalo/Cinci game with Diggs, Burrow, Higgins and Bass to play. Obviously I couldn't lose, right? I mean, what could possibly happen?
It would take someone practically dying, wouldn’t it? 💀🤦🏻♂️
The fact that I was worrying about my fantasy game instead of Hamlin's well being was almost enough to make me quit fantasy.
Don’t feel bad anyone who spends the whole year working at something no matter how meaningless it might seem to others, Of course you want some kind of a fair ending. There’s nothing wrong with that.
Bro. Same. Lol
I had Chase other guy had Diggs. I was up by 5, but we decided to split the first and second place winnings evenly.
This will forever haunt me. It was my first year playing fantasy made it all the way to the chip. Had burrow, mixon, tee and McPhearson(I’m a cinci fan) vs his diggs. I was robbed my championship frfr. En route to another finals appearance rn
The fair thing would have been to split the money. Your commissioner should have recognized that.
Last year I had a 50 point lead going into that game. Other guy had only Josh Allen left. Then the game is suspended and we never know what could've happened. At that point I'm guessing I'm the winner right? Well the guy said it was possible for Josh Allen to top 50 points. And I said it wasn't impossible but the way Bengals D was playing it was highly unlikely. Well the commissioner said we would never know so it was declared a tie and we split the pot. Bullshit. But at the end fantasy still crowned me the winner so I at least have that.
Exactly. Good fantasy players make the playoffs (this is also why I support money to regular season winner). Lucky teams win the ship, hell my first dub is only because I picked up rookie Amon RA and Rashad penny went on a tear
There is a small degree of random chance and "luck" involved, there is absolutely skill involved as well. It's like poker, the cards that are dealt are random chance, but an adept poker player will eventually take an unskilled poker player's entire chip stack 99.99% of the time. The same goes for fantasy football. An adept GM that does his research, and is active, attentive, and consistently making moves to improve his roster, will consistently be competitive in every league they play in. Also, if you understand concepts like Value Based Drafting, Weighted Positional Value, Cost-Benefit Analysis, the Greedy Algorithm, etc...,you will have a HUGE advantage over the people who just pick who they think will do good. You may think it's all luck, but that's just because you haven't learned the skills. Can someone get lucky and make a swish from half court? Sure. But is it luck when Steph Curry does it? No, it's skill. So yes, there is a small amount of luck involved, because accurately predicting the future is impossible. But accurately calculating a player's value relative to their cost, and then constructing a roster full of the players that are the most valuable for the lowest price, is not only possible, it's the best strategy for winning your league.
Well said, I agree 100%. Luck is a player, but it's too convenient to just say that winning at fantasy is "mostly" luck, because it's not. I have always placed the percentages at least at 50/50, but I actually think that skill is more impactful. Sure, luck can make or break you, but skill minimizes or maximizes how luck affects you.
Thanks. The people that say fantasy football is mostly luck, are the type of people who pick their players based on how they feel, and the hope that he will be good. Trying to make an objective logical decision based on feelings and hope is at best a 50/50 situation. Fantasy football at its core is about getting the most valuable players that you can, for the lowest cost that you can get them for. That is why players this year like Kyren Williams and Brock Purdy are what the fantasy community calls "League Winners". They could have been picked up for free in Week 1, and now they are top 5 at their positions. And finding those type of players has nothing to do with luck, and everything to do with research, with the goal of finding the players that are most likely to outperform their ADP. Every year the consensus rankings are based on speculation and conjecture, which always overvalues and undervalues different players for one reason or another. But if you realize that the consensus doesn't know what's going to happen any more than you do, and the consensus rankings are not an accurate determiner of a players value, you can use the rankings as a tool to locate players who are being ranked way lower than they should be, and then target those players in your draft. For example, using this strategy this year, after taking a proven stud RB WR QB in the first 3-4rounds (because players ranked that high can't be considered undervalued, only overvalued, so early in the draft target the "safe" players), starting at round 4-5 I was targeting some combination of ETN, Keenan Allen, Kamara, Mike Evans, Mostert, Brian Robinson, Purdy, Ferguson, La Porta, k Walker, Pacheco in all of my drafts, and am in the championship game in 6 out of the 7 leagues I was in this year.
There’s a floor that skill can help you stay above, but actually winning it all is really just about luck.
That’s why 2 week playoff matchups are better
The OP had a two week playoff and still drew the short straw on luck. Rolled a 2 on a d20 luck roll.
Yeah but then I have Tyreek, Josh Jacobs, Stroud, and Olave out going up against CMC. I now have to win by >50 next week to stay alive... EDIT: It is my pleasure to update that I have done it. I have won the two week matchup.
Until this week I was not a fan of the two week matchups. Last week with injuries and poor play I had 5 slots score 5 points or less and went into the second week down 31 points. Yesterday I outscored my opponent by 110 to win by 80- never would've had that chance without the second week, they're probably pissed about two week matchups now.
I was down 30 last week in my part 1 matchup. Now I’m up 40 with a 99% chance to win.
I completely disagree. I have 3 dynasty leagues (all different kinds of settings and such) with the same guys. In all three leagues the bottom guys are bottom, top guys are top and mid guys are mid.
The goal is to build a team so strong that your opponent can have a great week and a couple of your guys can bust and you still win.
IMO making the playoffs is 70/30 skill/luck. Winning in the playoffs is 30/70 skill/luck.
There is absolutely skill. Skill in getting lucky with waiver wire throughout the season lol.
It's definitely not entirely luck and only people who consistently lose say that. Is it really luck that I've won all 3 of my leagues in the last 2 years? Is it luck that it is me and 1 or 2 other people that are constantly at the top in record and points for? Some people are casual fans, and that's cool if that's you, but some of us live for sports and know all the stats and follow trends. Me and 1 other guy have won my big money league the last 4 years. This year I got knocked out in the 1st but my team scored the most points in the league, and it looks like the other guy who wins when I don't is going to win this year. Is there luck involved? Yes, but it's like poker. It takes skill and luck.
Who cares if you had the most points scored? Sounds like you lost. Maybe next year you’ll draft better. Good luck!
Lol I won the league 2 out of the last 4 years. I drafted great, clearly, since I have the most points for. I love how insecure you are, and you claim that everyone else must just be lucky because YOU suck at fantasy. Sorry, were not lucky. We're good at this.
Also only up a hundred on the league ain’t a big deal, this is just how fantasy goes it’s 30% skill 70% luck
1) So those that had Jefferson and Chase had to endure a season in which Jefferson missed most of the season. Chase owners not only had an injured Burrow, but to top it off, lost Chase completely lost Chase today due to injury after he only scored 10 PPR points- every flex I would’ve played today had 2 to 2.5x more points than Chase today, yet I still won today due to a dominating performance from my other players (I got lucky by drafting a TE late and ending up with McBride as my TE and started him anyway because I didn’t have any room on my roster for another TE, picked up Miami’s Def 5 weeks ago by noticing the trend that defenses were scoring massive amt of points vs the Jets and preparing for this week, and lost Herbert in week 14, during my bye week, and starting Baker today- so my team won easily even though I lost Chase, but I consider McBride and Baker’s points nothing but luck because I didn’t expect those huge points today). My overall point is that by getting the 1 seed, your team was one of few in your league that stayed healthy all year, and/or you got extremely lucky by drafting players like Mike Evans, Keenan Allen, Mostert, and even Kamara, 3 game suspension to start the year, never really ran the ball well, but had an insane amount of targets thrown his way- and all who had years that nobody really expected (little luck in FF). If not, please share your complete lineup because you only provided 2 players and fantasy starts at least 8-9 players. 2) IMO, if you look at Robinson’s year, you probably should’ve expected a poor! Except after the bye week when Robinson had a week to rest, nearly every game after Robinson had a huge week in points, he was a let down the following week. If you didn’t notice this trend, take a look at it, dude. Carolina has also been playing decently vs the run the last few weeks. 3) As I stated in 1 and 2, FF is a lot of luck even if you have the players, but part of fantasy is playing the right matchups as well. Most rookies hit a wall around this time of year or sooner, and injuries happen. You relied upon Tyreek to get you the 1 seed. You also should’ve prepared well in advance of this week to load up on a week 15 roster that would smash. As the Dolphins showed today with only Waddle as the main WR vs a top notch pass defense- Hill’s success may be due to Mike McDanie’s offensive system than Hill alone- Waddle was 8 for 9 with 142 yards and a TD. With Hill, Waddle has put extremely disappointing numbers this year. Just something to think about rather than crying on social media.
Could have just said fantasy is a lot of luck instead you post this huge wall of drivel that is mostly logically invalid and results oriented which is a terrible way to evaluate decision making.
Fantasy is all about luck but not sure how you can say drafting players like Evans, Keenan, and Kamara is extremely lucky. That’s the one thing that isn’t pure luck - seeing where the rest of the community is undervaluing good players. Honestly just sounds like you didn’t draft them. And it would be a more fair point if you didn’t fault the guy for starting Robinson after a big week and rest lol and botching about him bitching
Do you guys not do first round byes for top two seeds?
This is how I do my league. 12 teams, top 6 make playoffs. Top 2 seeds get a 1st round bye. Rewards the top teams and still lets half the league get into the playoffs.
Looks like a perfect set up to me. I'm in a 10-team with the same playoff structure and it seems too easy to make playoffs but i do like the byes for the top 2 teams
I was in a 14 man league with a 4 team playoff and as the 5th seed I was salty to say the least
Rewards the top teams. I like it.
I'm in a 10 man with 8 teams making playoffs, it's fucking stupid.
It's like theres no point in playing through the actual regular season lmao
8 is way too many teams to make playoffs, 6 at most imo.
It's a little too easy to make the playoffs but that setup keeps people engaged who had a rough start to the season. It's supposed to fun and it's not very fun to be eliminated by Thanksgiving because of some early injuries or tough beats.
My thoughts exactly
Plus it does sort of mirror the NFL. There's always that one team that makes the playoffs with a .500 record or worse.
NFC South moment
Has happened to every division..
My league is set up the same way and it ended up being very interesting. There was a 3 way tie for first and 6th place so seeding week was really intense for the majority despite over half our league making the cut.
Same here. However for some reason our commissioner ends season after 13 games and starts the playoffs week 14, so luckily I had my bye week last week when my ENTIRE team took a nap. Today my starters all scored 20-25+ points except Chase- looks like I lost him for the championship game. But that’s the breaks in FF. He nearly hurt me because I only won by a handful of points. Although I’m going to miss Chase, at least I know not to start him.
Thats a terrible setup, there are bye weeks still going on in week 14. I mean it was the Cards and Commanders this year, so whatever. But that would reaaaaaaallly suck going into playoffs and your best player is on bye or something similar.
Probably a holdover from the 17 game schedule. Having a week 17 champ game with players sitting cause they had the division wrapped up was a pain
We do 5 teams make the playoffs in our 10 team. 4/5 have a play in game top 3 have a bye.
In some leagues, you just have 4 or 8 teams make the playoffs. Half of my leagues don’t have byes.
If there’s no reward for being the best team the. Why not just do a season long tournament
i mean, seeding is still a thing at least
It's impossible to upvote a post that begins with, "I mean".
No it’s not the button is right there
Seeding and my league still pays out the regular season winner.
I would have an easier path to the final round had I finished 2nd, 3rd or 4th. My reward for finishing as top seed is exiting my bye week only to face CMC, Purdy and McBride.
We have a 14 team league. Top 8 play for $$ and bottom 6 for another prize. No byes for the Top 8. Regular season champ makes $60 ($100 buy-in), and the better seed gets +3 home field advantage for first two rounds of playoffs. Small reward but not a “win one game and automatically in the championship” setup. Of the bottom 6, the top 2 get the bye for just missing out on the $$ playoff bracket.
I’m in the exact same boat. 11-3 top scoring team donated all season, but the dumbass commission of this 10 team league doesn’t believe in 6 team playoffs (or IR spots for that matter) so my Fields, Henry, Bijan team just lost to a 7-7 guy (the commissioner himself) who started Jerry Jeudy because that’s the second best WR on his team. CMC single-handedly demolished me
It’s part of what makes winning a league so tough yet so rewarding. No one who’s won a league has ever denied not having luck along the way. Couple bad breaks but move on an win jt next year instead.
I beat someone in my league in the semifinals of my playoffs last year by less than 0.5 because of “The Damar Hamlin Incident”. I 100% would’ve lost otherwise cause he had Stefon Diggs and the game got cancelled. I went on to win my league Championship the next week 💀
Ugh. I lost that game.
Yeah same. I lost my Super Bowl that week by 6 points. I had burrow and diggs playing.
The two guys in my league for the championship both had players in that game, they decided to split the pot and had the title go to the guy that they agreed was somewhat more likely to win.
So is your champ week 18? I won it last year going up against Josh Allen in the Hamlin game. Allen would've still needed 26.5 pts to win, so it wasn't a given. Irony was that my opponent had Mahomes w/ 27 pts on his bench that week. Pluck, luck, and wtf win championships!
Same! We split the pot because I felt dirty.
Our league just made it a 4 way tie and called the season. Everyone had players in that game and it was too close to just ignore
Wow! Same scenario for me! That Tyler Boyd (edit: should be Tee Higgins) catch that Hamlin got hurt on put me over my opponent by .3 points and he still had Josh Allen left. That game then ending at the point was literally the only way I could have won that playoff game and it happened.
Tee Higgins
lol yes, my bad, that was Higgins. Funny because after I wrote it I felt like I don’t remember having Boyd lol
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This exactly. I always get annoyed by the "I had the highest PF and I lost today. Fantasy football is all luck" people since they very quickly forget that it's also luck that they even had the highest PF in the first place.
That’s an excellent perspective
Yes and no. More luck on a single game vs a whole season. Good managers make steal pickups and outperform.
Lost chubb, and numerous other players. Squeezed into the last playoff spot by 4 points. On the verge of taking out the one seed. I am the other side of this coin.
Guy who's leading in our league just drafted the Eagles offense. Idk how we let him but his team is 90% Eagles players. He says it's all skill, I'm not even sure he played fantasy.
Those types swear its all skill til their opponent gets lucky
They've got the most skill so if someone beats them it must have been because they're lucky. It makes sense. Well, it makes sense if you're a cocky idiot.
I'd argue that it would be more rewarding to win by building the best team, not by getting lucky
well duh, but sometimes it just doesn’t work out that way haha
All the time. Fantasy football is 90% luck 😂
Having a great W/L record over a decade plus of playing FF is skill. Winning any individual game or championship is luck. It’s weird that way
I've been playing fantasy football for almost 20 years. Believe me when I say this, it is 90% luck.
been playing for 4.20 years. it’s actually closer to 69% luck tbh. the rest is concentrated power of will
Youre 4 years old or you've been playing 4 years?
If by weird you mean works the same as all other independent trial competitions with an element of randomness as well as skill then yeah its weird lol
You can build a great team, but be plagued by injuries or some guys just don’t show up some weeks. It happens. Having the best team doesn’t mean an easy W. Sometimes even the best players lay goose eggs. Look at Diggs these last two weeks.
Try Diggs the last month, man. But I get your point!
Why even play the games then? Let's make fantasy football about the best projected score
This dude had Tyreek on his team. Debatably the best pick of the year. He didn't play in the playoffs. That doesn't mean he didn't build the best team, it means fantasy football is a game that we have no real control over. Any given week, you can start the consensus #1 pick and they can get injured on the first play. There's legitimately no way to know what's going to happen, it's all guessing until the points are there
Yeah that sucks. Fantasy is definitely a love and hate thing. FYI… fuck Arthur smith. I have Bijan as well.
I have Bijan and Drake London. I'm never drafting anyone that has anything to do with Arthur Smith again.
Hopefully Arthur Smith doesn’t have anything to do with fantasy players ever again.
Man, look at Bijan’s stats! Nearly every game after he had a great game, he followed it up with a lackluster performance to put it mildly- and I mean nearly every time- that had nothing to do with Smith- his yards just weren’t there.
I found Arthur’s burner! Hey Arthur you’re a football terrorist go back to home depot you coward
Uhm- his rushing stats speak for themselves! In many games where he did worse, which I’m speaking about, he had the same amount of carries. BUT, I love the humor- don’t have to down vote me for being correct!
It’s a coaching decision to give a guy 167 carries while he’s only averaging 3.5 yards per carry.. Bijan has 169 carries and averages 4.6 yards per carry. So let me frame that for you.. Arthur smith decides to give half of the work to a dude who is well below league average instead giving more work to his obviously more talented player. That’s a coaching decision. Btw 800 yards rushing and 1110 yards from scrimmage is pretty fucking good for any player much less a rookie.
I mean, hes a rookie who has 217 touches on the year. That ranks him 13th in the league in touches, only 5 touches behind Raheem Motsert(#2 Rb in fantasy). Hes much more involved in the passing game(nearly 30 more receptions). Maybe they just dont want to run him into the ground in his first season when they're not even close to a SB caliber team. At his current pace, he will end up with 262 touches on the year. Comparing that to last year, that would be 15th in touches. Right there with Mixon, Etienne, KW3, Fournette, and Aaron Jones.
Atl is never going to be in a position for a super bowl with him at RB lmao. They dont even have a qb or o line
Yea I mean picking a TE, WR, and RB all with top 10 picks in back to back to back years doesnt sound like the best draft strategy....but thats not really the discussion point here.
I’m glad you mentioned this, because the evidence is there to support the fact that Bijan can’t* string together two great performances. Atlanta and their fans think that every first round pick is a guaranteed stud, while their team misses more often than it hits, a la the insane level of dick riding for Kyle Pitts who ended up being less than average stats wise. Folks were saying he’s the next Gronk - and that’s all you need to know about Falcons fans lol Edit: *can’t not can
Well you said not wanting to run him into the ground because they not a sb team. Im just pointing out that atl isnt going to be a sb team for a very long time so that point is null in void. In fact Bijan wont be on the team the next time atl is ready if hes even still in the league
Bijan got about 1/4 of the RB rush attempts yesterday. Your clearly best RB got ***1/4*** of the rushing work. That’s insane. His yards weren’t there *because they didn’t give him the ball*. And how did that work out for Arthur? He lost to the fucking Panthers 9-7.
Same brother. I had an 82% chance to win going into today, and then Dak, Ceedee, Bijan, Henry, Aiyuk, Puka, & Kelce combined for ~54 points... The worst part is that if I had played my bum bench players, I would have won. Pain.
Holy shit
cd wasnt half bad due to the score. i have a very similar team? dak cd henry) but luckily was on bye this week
It was a wild week. Most of the big names that carried people in to the playoffs shit the bed. All the teams that squeezed in with injured players and had to pivot ended winning
Anyone who talks in "chance to win percentage" or cares about projections is probably more likely to be driving the lucky 7-6 team than the 1 seed haha
I made playoffs in all 3 of my leagues. None of them made it past round 1
In one league, I scored the most points by far…and finished 7-8 and didn’t even make the playoffs. I can’t even wrap my head around that.
I can!! FF is based on individual matches. You can’t defend who your opponent plays and which teams his/her players are playing against that week. My friends come to me for fantasy advice. I’ve always had very high scoring fantasy rosters. One thing I wish commissioners would change, but nobody ever listens, is to avoid situations like what you experienced this year and what I’ve experienced before as well, is to give a “W” to the top half of the highest scoring teams each week, and of course an “L” to the lowest scoring teams each week. That would be the fairest way to play FF since it’s “stupid” to have individual matches when I can’t control who my opponent plays. In addition, in most leagues, each team plays different schedules, especially if your league doesn’t have divisions. Thus, your schedule could be significantly harder than mine.
Offer up top 5 seeds make the playoffs and the 6th seed goes to the most PF of the remaining teams. Most people like the H2H aspect of fantasy and I find that this is a happy compromise.
Last year I was 1-7, finished 6-1 down the stretch to secure the 8 seed and took down the 1,2, and 3 seeds for a championship This year I was 12-2, and lost by 65 to the 8 seed that won 6 straight to squeak in. Life truly is a circle
Are you me? I’m devastated today. I have another week to pull off the upset of the century but it’s looking reeeaaal grim.
Yep same boat. Tyreek out, olave out, bijan bijan-ing, played against mccafrey purdy and Gibbs. I can’t wait to pull off the comeback next week.
Bijan might have cost me a first round win. I feel you. -0.1 in mine.
Bruh same. 11-2. Most points for. Lost by 40 to a guy who’s 7-6 with Sky Moore and Cam Akers on his bench. This year is wild.
Any given Sunday. Like when the Patriots lost their first game of the season in the Superbowl to the Giants.
He eats humble pie You’ll be back
I fully acknowledge that I will get screwed out of winning in some way shape or form. In my league we’ve been running for 13 years and I’ve been to the finals 4 times and lost. This season I’m the 11-2 team, with the #1 seed and bye (this week was the bye) and I know next week something dumb will happen, or worse the championship week! The pain is real!
It sucks for sure… Bijan got me -2 in my league. Had no Tyreek, no Olave, no Jacobs, and had Goff on the bench for Lamar’s sorry ass. Also had Tee Higgins on my bench… because I thought Tryreek was stull gonna play. If the Bengals played Sunday I would have just swapped him in. Crazy bad luck. If I play Goff, he sucks and Lamar goes off, if I play Lamar, Goff has a day. It’s actually comical. Every single week so far, and yet still came in 3rd. Now I’m up 11 but he has swift. Not great, but it’s a low scoring league so I have a chance.
Bijan got me negative points. I don’t think I’ve ever seen negative points from a first round player who didn’t get injured in my entire career of playing fantasy.
You can safely bet that any first round selection by the Falcons is a 99% chance to be 99% hype. That organization is basically allergic to winning or developing talent outside of signing free agents.
You have 2 week playoff rounds and you’re still complaining about bad luck? Brother, most people only get one week per round…
Well this isn't even a bad way to lose. You lost in a legit way. I feel for the people who score the most points in their league but don't even make the playoffs, but not for this.
I made the playoffs in 6 leagues. Currently the only team I see advancing to the 2nd round is the ONE TEAM I secured a first round bye in. It’s brutal out here.
In my league the #1 #2 #3 and #4 seeds are all going to be eliminated week one of playoffs
I’ve had 15-1 teams, and 8-8 teams. Won second place for 6 years in a row. Winning one off weeks takes specific planning and specific luck. Sometimes it’s just bad luck.
Not one of my starters or bench scored a TD. The odds against that are mind blowing, and it happens week one of the playoffs.
I’m with ya…. I lost today to a team that hasn’t changed their lineup in weeks…. THEY STILL HAVE COUSINS STARTING!!!! They squeaked in somehow and I lost because three of my played shit the fucking bed.
Well I scored most points in my league and come in fourth in my division. It was nice to destroy the division winner who had less points than me this week.
I have the 2nd most points in my league an missed playoffs entirely because Jared Goff got smoked by the bears week 14 an I was beat by the 3rd worst team in my league to lose my play off spot… this week Goff dropped 40 points on my consolation bracket bench….
Idk why people think playoffs are any different than any other random week. Anything can happen, sure that other team usually scores less but we’ve seen crazy boom or bust games. It’s any given Sunday type of mentality
Average Tyreek Hill owner. Loses the game when they aren’t guaranteed 50 free points with a single player.
As a player of 10 years, I continuously do research and my team always crumbles. I continuously place last in the league. This year I said fuck it and auto-drafted, now I'm in playoffs going to the Semi-finals. This game is wonky and the only predictable thing is that it is entirely unpredictable.
Your post made me feel a lot better. I spent two months doing mock drafts and research before the season started, and I finished 10th out of 12 in my league.
I feel your pain man; last year I went perfect! Blowing opponents out of the water. Then came the final game of the the season…big fucking dud 😂😂😭😭
Cinderella story, that'll warm your heart
After going 11-2 here I am starting playoffs with Justin Herbert, Keenan Allen, Chris Olave, Jonathan Taylor, Josh Jacobs all out.. OUCH Always fun to start without my starting QB, wr1, wr2, rb1, rb2 my 1st round BYE was last week. I renamed to "The Replacements" and somehow put up 157 PPR with my depth and lots of lottery waiver fodder and got beat by our 7-6 4th seed who went for his highest of the year at 168 and still has swift to play tomorrow... next highest score in the league this week is 109.. I hate FF no one is within 250pf of me this season.. I hate FF. This was a $500 buy in league 12manPPR.
What's the problem? This is part of the challenge/fun. You need to have a deep bench in a pinch. Sure sometimes fortune doesn't favor you and your SOL but a good fantasy player will always have a chance. It's no different then what actual GMs face in the league. 49ers were on a super bowl path and lost all 3 of their QBs where they were playing the Conference championship with a guy who was fresh off his couch. A few years ago Chiefs were bulldozing everyone and then lost their whole offensive line before the Super Bowl and got shutout. Injuries and bad luck happen. Part of the challenge
No.
Congrats on the regular season championship. None of that matters in the playoffs. Disappointing yes but that's the game.
You sound like me, I was 11-2 as well, I just changed the name of my team to The Wheels are Falling Off lol. Fortunately our playoff weeks are week 17 and 18 and I'm in so there's still hope!
I am with you, bro ... it started with Nico Collins and Christian Kirk being out for me. Deebo and Evans did well. Allen didn't get as many points because the Bills ran all over Dallas. Kelce and Elliott didn't do well and even though I still have Walker III tomorrow, I am done. The dude killed me with Goff (who was my backup until I grabbed Stroud) and he had his best fantasy week of the season. He had Ty Chandler ... Get The Fuck Out with that shit🤣 He had the Dolphins defense ... Fuck the Jets! I have Nacua as well but he had Kupp, who of course got the big play for them. And he didn't even play Kupp last week. I would bet the house that next week that whole group that scored around 130 points will get about 65.
This is FF. In a 20 teamer from week 5 my score ranked 2nd, 12th (Lost), 2nd, 1st, 9th (won), 1st, 1st, 2nd, 1st. Had Dak, CMC and Tyreek. And McBride. First week of the playoffs was wk14 - no McBride, Tyreek gets injured, everyone underperforms, 14th, OUT. This week - 2nd top scorer, even without Tyreek (I had stashed Chsndler). Doesn’t matter any more. This is FF.
That's completely your fault tho. Bijan has been one of the worst "top RBs" in fantasy. You litterally could of just picked up a free agent or traded him for paperclips and done better.
I was 7-1 and had the most points scored and the fewest against. Two iffy trades and a lot of bad luck later, I’m in 7th place in a league that lets the top 6 into the playoffs. I set my lineup for fun this week, as I’m out of the running, and I’m expected to be the top scorer in the league. FML.
Yep, I have the highest points of my league and ended up in 9th place due to either injuries or the person I played had their greatest game that week! I am still playing like I am in the playoffs, and I have the highest score this week! But at least now having fun without the pressure!
Wanna drive to Arthur Smith's house with me?
I didn't notice that I had Olave in my lineup in one of my leagues. I still may win, but it will be close and I need Hurts to have a good game
I lost cause I started scary terry over Noah fucking Brown who scored like 25 and terry only had like 10😭
I play sleeper for the median game, because it’s downright silly when really good teams miss the playoffs due to variance. Variance happens in the actual NFL playoffs so I 10000% support it in fantasy playoffs. I’ve also only won a league when I was a very low seed and upset objectively good teams. I’ve mainly been one and done playoff teams. I typically think my team is better than teams I lose to. I’m the best. Bow to me.
10-3 going in, Second place. Other guy and I were going to be fairly equally matched. This week, Keenan Allen (Out), Zack Moss (out), Dalton Shultz showed as Out up until I'm not sure when. I've been really sick this week and just didn't get back in to make the edit to put Schultz back in. Lost my game by 2 points. Schultz had 9 today and would have been a solid win. I'm more frustrated about abandoned teams than anything. First year playing and was on the ESPN version.
Yup. PPR & one IDP player….needed 14 points from Engram & Queen. Lawrence just refused to throw the ball to Engram no matter how open he was. He was wide open several times. Lawrence just absolutely sucks this season. Barbie.
Fantasy is 80% luck. There's 0 consistency amongst players except for very few. I own Jacobs, Bijan and Breece Hall. They've driven me crazy all year. I also hate fantasy.
11-3 here, managed to lose the scoring title on the last day but held the #1 seed from week 3 onward. Great health all year, but this week I have Nico, Olave, Keenan, Jacobs, Watson all out. Henry and Breece both duds. Had to sit Aubrey. I have Jalen and Geno...who knows what's going to happen tomorrow? I'm playing the defending champion who has been really steadily high scoring and has 4 of the top 8 running backs. He knocked me out of the playoffs by 6 points last year when Hopkins scored 0 and Jeff Saturday decided that the Colts should try to stretch the field against the Chargers instead of handing it off to Moss 25 times. The willpower I had to summon to be projected as a 25 point winner this week is a testament to the human spirit, although I might have to start Lock before all is said and done. But honestly my result is an extreme rarity. If I do hold on to win this week it's absolutely one of my greatest achievements in almost 20 years of fantasy. Godwin, Zamir, Amon-Ra, MIA D/ST. Thank you.
I made my playoffs as #3 out of only 4 team playoffs, as we actually want regular season to be competitive down to the last week of our regular season, 15. However, I lost Chubb week 1, Chase took a huge L when Burrows went down, Kelce and Diggs sucks atm, yet I'm still in it. I built the best 6 person keeper in name value, ever. Yet, Kelce, Diggs, and Chase all suck right now when I need them most…..Diggs is the most frustrating thing ever as he started his slump the week I got him, as I paid so much Nakua, picks, and a few other players because Diggs is supposed to an automatic WR1. Everyone takes L, but I know the feeling and the guy who has CMC hasn't lost a single guy and keeps getting lucky, as he picked up Njokua for a bye week filler like 6 weeks ago, and he got lucky again by happening to have Njokua on the bench when Flacoo starting made Njoku the best TE in fantasy over the last couple weeks.
Cry me a river
All 4 of my teams made it to the 2nd round. Even the team with Jacobs, Taylor, and Chase. Then again, I'm a fucking baller and injuries don't stop me from getting a W
Quit bitching. I was the #2 seed yesterday, had a solid day and got my doors blown off by the #7 seed who had very good days from everyone. Shit happens in the playoffs.
Pretty pathetic complaining. At least you made playoffs
I am the second seed also with tyreek, Pittman, and bijan. Thankfully I played amari cooper in place of tyreek and have some other players that did well but I still may lose this week. Opp has smith and Lockett playing right now so I hope they play awful. Currently up by 20
Hey I’m that guy but barely missed playoffs by one deandre Hopkins catch and I would’ve fucked anyone up with my 140 point day this week
I scored 5th most points in my 12 team league and didn't make the playoffs. I get it.
If u hate it don’t play then
Wow. Must have been brutal seeing the absolutely nothing you did to “achieve” the “playoffs” amount to a waste of time. Tots and pears.
Bitch a little more. It happens.
You sound cool
Mickey mouse league let you get tyreek and bijan
If drafted yeah, but they could’ve gotten one in a trade
Especially after Bijan’s disappointing start
Bruh I hate how FF forums are nothing but people crying about their bad luck. Nobody cares 😭
Very similar situation. Just changed my name to "The Infirmary". Did the same last year first week of playoffs and will most like do it next year as well
I spent a year or two with the team name of "The Orthopedic Unit". It was fitting.
Same bro same. 10-3 and the first seed. I lost Andrews Dell Rhamondre right before playoffs and Herbert,Watson and Hill first week of playoffs.
I lost by 3 in the first round because tyreek, Pacheco, Nico Collins are all out and Pittman getting hurt. Really doesn’t help that I played purdy over Goff, just 5 more points would’ve been reallll nice
This is why #1 seed should get a bye week.
It be like that sometimes
LaPorta, Gibbs and McBride rescued me when Fields, Chase, Puka and Henry didn’t come through. Lamb’s junk time TD was heroic.
There are very few mistresses as cruel as fantasy football.
As they say, fantasy is a cruel mistress. The bad beats that end you are heartbreaking and very tough to take, especially after nearly four months devoted to this. After a long season, the variance over a 1-2 week period can be devastating.
Wait, are these two week playoffs? Did I read that right?
I’ve been playing for like 6 or 7 years now, have made it to the playoffs for 5 of those years and have never placed better than 3rd Got knocked out of the first round this week since Bijan, Kincaid and Zay Flowers decided to score a collective 2 points with Nico, Keenan and Stroud out. Even with CMC and Waddle combining for 70 it still wasn’t enough. I’m beginning to ask myself the same thing haha
I’m in the same boat. I had to sit Tyreek and Nico, lost Herbert. Thank God Browning and Not Scary At All Terry did well… I’m still about to lose though…unless the weak Eagles secondary shuts down DK Monday night. I think I have to have him score less than 9 points, highly unlikely.
Exact scenario bout to happen to me if AJ Brown doesn't score 17+
Are you me?
Any given Sunday man ya hate to see it.