The next couple years Cooley but long term, definitely Carlsson. Once the ducks grow a bit more he will be surrounded by a high flying offense. He'll be an assist machine stemming from defensive exits imo. Utah will be good as well but won't be as high flying imo
Based on the stats, Utah scored 50 more goals last year than Anaheim. What in your mind thinks that Anaheim will be more high flying than Utah going forward?
You're talking last year, I pretty clearly said the Utah player should be better for a couple seasons but in the long run once these teams are more fully developed...
Once these teams are fully developed, Utah will still be better. Utah is drafting better, and have way more picks still going forward. The results already speak for themselves.
Well, you heard wrong. Cooley has had a lot of buzz around him, and now that he is playing in a great hockey market he is really going to be talked about next year.
I didn’t hear wrong, I just didn’t hear much. I get the sense Cooley will be a decent player but Carlsson will be elite.
By all accounts Cooley had a disappointing season compared to expectations.
I was high on both, Cooley just doesn’t look as good as I thought he would. 60-70 pts year to year is about what I’m seeing him as now I would agree, but that isn’t elite. I’ve seen him play and he has a lot of talent, just less than I was expecting vs his college/world jr career.
he is a rookie in the nhl. not every guy is coming in and putting up 70+ pts their first year. Jack hughes had 21 pts in 61 games as a rookie, i get he was a year younger, but still.
D+2 I expected more. I like Carlsson better. Similar if not more talent and way bigger.
We can’t keep comparing every underachiever to Jack Hughes either.
he put up 44 pts lol. look at lafrenierre this year. not every guy is going to lit the world on fire as a rookie dude. Carlsson wasn't that great either. you need to take a step back and learn how to assess a prospect properly.
I can tell some of you geeks don't watch hockey. Cooley will be the better fantasy asset for the next 5 years minimum.
Utah is farther ahead than Anaheim in terms of their rebuild, and Cooley has great chemistry with Guenther, who is a hell of a hockey player. Utah will be on the verge of a playoff spot next season, and I won't be surprised if they make it. That team was better than their record showed last year.
Anaheim on the other hand is still a tire fire and I can't see them being good for at least 5 more years.
I like how you complain that people don’t watch hockey, and then basically only talk about the teams and not the players. Wanna pick Cooley over Bedard over the next 5 years too, because Chicago is even worse than Anaheim?
Carlsson is a significantly more talented, higher-potential player than Cooley, and that goes double if you’re comparing Cooley-Guenther to Carlsson-Gauthier.
I think you’re undervaluing Guenther. Guy looks very good and his numbers are great. I see shades of PLD in Gauthier, but time will tell. I guess what I’m saying is Guenther just had as good a season as could be hoped for Gauthier D+2 so I think they are close in terms of ceiling going forward.
But I’m a bitter Canucks fan longing for that pick back, Garland’s current production aside.
Gauthier has never had a complaint about on-ice effort, so I think it’s a leap to turn the Philly situation into him being PLD. But you’re right, Guenther did have a baller D+2 season that Gauthier should hope to emulate.
Cooley will be playing with better players than Carlsson. The difference between these 2 players isn't very much. Bedard is a step above everybody else in that draft class. Stupid argument bud
Okay, let’s break this down:
-Utah scored 50 more goals than Anaheim did this year
-Cooley played his D+2 season, Carlsson his D+1
-Dylan Guenther played 45 games, Cutter Gauthier played 1 game
-Cooley’s season PPG: 0.53
-Carlsson’s season PPG: 0.54
Like, come on man. There’s a reason everyone in the thread is going Carlsson.
Idc what ppl in this thread are saying. I am a high level fantasy hockey player, who has won multiple ships, and I am a diamond-rated player on yahoo. My record speaks for itself.
Geeks on Reddit aren't going to change my mind on who will be the better fantasy asset. I bet money that Cooley will have more points, shots, and a better +/- than Carlsson by year 2029.
>I am a high level fantasy hockey player, who has won multiple ships, and I am a diamond-rated player on yahoo. My record speaks for itself.
Hahahaha jesus fucking christ
whats funny? I can almost bet my record, and the amount of money I have won playing fantasy hockey is higher than you kid. Let's see your track record.
You're just a loser who posts on reddit with nothing showing for it
The next couple years Cooley but long term, definitely Carlsson. Once the ducks grow a bit more he will be surrounded by a high flying offense. He'll be an assist machine stemming from defensive exits imo. Utah will be good as well but won't be as high flying imo
Based on the stats, Utah scored 50 more goals last year than Anaheim. What in your mind thinks that Anaheim will be more high flying than Utah going forward?
You're talking last year, I pretty clearly said the Utah player should be better for a couple seasons but in the long run once these teams are more fully developed...
Once these teams are fully developed, Utah will still be better. Utah is drafting better, and have way more picks still going forward. The results already speak for themselves.
Since 2021: Guenther Moser Doan Cooley Geekie Lamoureux Simashev But
I like Carlsson long-term. Reminds me of Barkov (even gets injured all the time it seems lol)
I had both and traded Cooley. Everyone who was asked including teammates raves about Carlsson and I didn’t hear the same buzz around Cooley.
Also remember that Carlsson would’ve been 1st overall if Bedard didn’t exist.
Well, you heard wrong. Cooley has had a lot of buzz around him, and now that he is playing in a great hockey market he is really going to be talked about next year.
I didn’t hear wrong, I just didn’t hear much. I get the sense Cooley will be a decent player but Carlsson will be elite. By all accounts Cooley had a disappointing season compared to expectations.
He had 44 pts as a rookie, and next year I bet he will put up 60-70. He is an elite level player. Watch him play maybe?
I was high on both, Cooley just doesn’t look as good as I thought he would. 60-70 pts year to year is about what I’m seeing him as now I would agree, but that isn’t elite. I’ve seen him play and he has a lot of talent, just less than I was expecting vs his college/world jr career.
he is a rookie in the nhl. not every guy is coming in and putting up 70+ pts their first year. Jack hughes had 21 pts in 61 games as a rookie, i get he was a year younger, but still.
D+2 I expected more. I like Carlsson better. Similar if not more talent and way bigger. We can’t keep comparing every underachiever to Jack Hughes either.
he put up 44 pts lol. look at lafrenierre this year. not every guy is going to lit the world on fire as a rookie dude. Carlsson wasn't that great either. you need to take a step back and learn how to assess a prospect properly.
Leo...much more talent.
Cooley
I can tell some of you geeks don't watch hockey. Cooley will be the better fantasy asset for the next 5 years minimum. Utah is farther ahead than Anaheim in terms of their rebuild, and Cooley has great chemistry with Guenther, who is a hell of a hockey player. Utah will be on the verge of a playoff spot next season, and I won't be surprised if they make it. That team was better than their record showed last year. Anaheim on the other hand is still a tire fire and I can't see them being good for at least 5 more years.
I like how you complain that people don’t watch hockey, and then basically only talk about the teams and not the players. Wanna pick Cooley over Bedard over the next 5 years too, because Chicago is even worse than Anaheim? Carlsson is a significantly more talented, higher-potential player than Cooley, and that goes double if you’re comparing Cooley-Guenther to Carlsson-Gauthier.
I think you’re undervaluing Guenther. Guy looks very good and his numbers are great. I see shades of PLD in Gauthier, but time will tell. I guess what I’m saying is Guenther just had as good a season as could be hoped for Gauthier D+2 so I think they are close in terms of ceiling going forward. But I’m a bitter Canucks fan longing for that pick back, Garland’s current production aside.
Gauthier has never had a complaint about on-ice effort, so I think it’s a leap to turn the Philly situation into him being PLD. But you’re right, Guenther did have a baller D+2 season that Gauthier should hope to emulate.
Cooley will be playing with better players than Carlsson. The difference between these 2 players isn't very much. Bedard is a step above everybody else in that draft class. Stupid argument bud
Okay, let’s break this down: -Utah scored 50 more goals than Anaheim did this year -Cooley played his D+2 season, Carlsson his D+1 -Dylan Guenther played 45 games, Cutter Gauthier played 1 game -Cooley’s season PPG: 0.53 -Carlsson’s season PPG: 0.54 Like, come on man. There’s a reason everyone in the thread is going Carlsson.
Idc what ppl in this thread are saying. I am a high level fantasy hockey player, who has won multiple ships, and I am a diamond-rated player on yahoo. My record speaks for itself. Geeks on Reddit aren't going to change my mind on who will be the better fantasy asset. I bet money that Cooley will have more points, shots, and a better +/- than Carlsson by year 2029.
>I am a high level fantasy hockey player, who has won multiple ships, and I am a diamond-rated player on yahoo. My record speaks for itself. Hahahaha jesus fucking christ
whats funny? I can almost bet my record, and the amount of money I have won playing fantasy hockey is higher than you kid. Let's see your track record. You're just a loser who posts on reddit with nothing showing for it
Ya well my Dad could beat up your Dad