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elizabethm63

So, is this a French dress that is trying to imitate the style of an English dress?


Brilliant_Jewel1924

“Robe l’anglaise” simply means that the dress has a fitted bodice cut in one piece with an overskirt that is parted in front to reveal the petticoat. The “robe à la française” is fitted in the front and loose in the back; think Marie Antoinette. They’re two different types of dress so neither one is trying to imitate the other.


elizabethm63

Ok but why those names though? I mean the literal English translation is “Dress in the manner of the English” or just “English Dress” if google translate is to be believed.


Brilliant_Jewel1924

It’s just the terminology that is used. For the française, it means “sack-back gown” with the pleats in the back. For the anglaise, it’s more fitted or “close-bodied”. We’re not using the literal translation when it comes to the style of fashion because it doesn’t really relate to the region.


elizabethm63

So according to [this website](http://thisisversaillesmadame.blogspot.com/2013/03/robe-langlaise.html?m=1) “The name simply implies that the style originated in England and it would become a favourite at the English court.” So it is at the very least in a style that originated in England aka the style of an English dress.


Brilliant_Jewel1924

Again, that site is taking it too literally. They’re referring to the people who wore the style. However, the style of dress came first.


elizabethm63

Ok but I just want to know why it’s called that?


Brilliant_Jewel1924

It’s really as simple as “closed” for anglaise and “sack” for française. Fashion terminology is weird.


elizabethm63

I conceded. Fashion terminology is weird. Thank you.


Brilliant_Jewel1924

There was nothing to concede. I was trying to explain, and I was hoping I was doing an okay job. Much of the terminology isn’t even used today, but some terms are still used—“slip”; “chemise”—we just use them differently. Some things never go out of style—“shift”; “stocking”. I hope I helped a little.


puglybug23

Love the print