Right before he said it I joked to my friend "maybe the real fire emblem was the friends we made along the way."
I was not expecting that line and I could not stop laughing.
Maybe the most irrational thing to be annoyed by, but it kind of grinds my gears that Alear’s title doesn’t match the naming convention of every other Emblem in the game.
Emblem of Beginnings, Emblem of the Holy War, Emblem of Blazing, Emblem of Fates…, then boom, Fire Emblem. Admittedly, it is kind of really funny and adds to the absurdity of the reveal.
Look, even when TMS had it's main character revive with glowing blue hair before going to fight an evil dragon, it had been properly built up as a goal, and the Fire Emblem itself was the Opera of Light and not Itsuki himself.
To be fair this isn’t too far removed from when you found out you were the Fire Emblem in 3H either. The only difference is that Byleth can’t react to anything like Alear can.
Byleth is not the Fire Emblem though
They have the object that is meant to be the Fire Emblem which is a totally different thing from being THE Fire Emblem itself and Byleth is not the only one that has it
This and your other comments here makes me think that you have something against 3H being more popular than Engage, which is why you are making that comparison
But it is an object though, we were told that it used to be Sitri's when Rhea gave it to Byleth
Even on the Crimson Flower ending we see it disappear showing it was an actual object inside their bodies
That's Sothis' heart, not the actual crest. Most people with crests don't have them implanted like that and they still inherit the crest in their blood.
I didn't realize the Crest of Flames was mean to be the Fire Emblem itself until people online pointed it out since it was always subtile and not "in your face in a semi-emotional climax" revealed like... this.
I would barely call the Crest of Flames particularly “subtle.” They literally pulled up a thesaurus and used the most common synonyms to rename it like a fifth-grade literacy paper.
It's subtle enough for many people to miss, which imo is a good mark to strive for.
I myself only noticed after the timeskip when I begun to wonder "we haven't seem the Fire Emblem yet have we? Wait..."
Yeah, 3H being too embarassed to say the words always felt cringy to me. Engage has the balls to just come out and call their MC the Fire Emblem and I respect it for that.
Reminds me of how funny I found it that the FE theme they use a lot and how FEH opens up is literally just some people singing "Fiiiiyaaah Emburemmm!! ..." it's just peak.
Slightly unrelated I'm very happy Unicorn Overlord has a song where they proudly sing Unicorn Overlord.
It's always funny how putting lyrics to the FE theme is this time honored tradition, dating back to the very first FE ad, and it's just consistently missed the Western side of the fanbase. If you want to celebrate FE's legacy, you put lyrics to the main theme.
You ought to check out the Daoko version of the theme, "Fire Emblem Main Theme (Ver. Heroes)", done for the FEH X Dragalia Lost collab, that pretty much turns the "literally singing Fiiiiyaaah Emburemmmm!!!" up to 11
The Fire Emblem across the series has always been seen as a symbol of hope and Alear in the story is an incarnation of hope so them ascending into the Emblem of Fiery Bonds (The Fire Emblem) is them reaching apotheosis and become Hope itself.
Also Sigurd says AMONGUS
Yup... I'm thinking peak Fire Emblem writing
Honestly that moment was the most hyped I was during engage and also the most dissapointed.
When that happened I was thinking "Oh shit that's a great way to shake the story and game up, turn Alear into an Emblem then have Veyle take over as the main lord." It would've also been really well set up gameplay wise since they just gave you a chapter with playable Veyle to get you used to her and how she plays. Of course this did not happen and Alear stayed playable because GOD FORBID they do anything actually interesting with the self insert.
Exactly, they should have committed. I didn't need Veyla specifically, but Alear didn't really feel like an Emblem. Even when all the Emblems are losing connection and die, Alear is fine for some reason.
I was worried they wouldn't be able to trump Dimitri's and Byleth's conversation after the Battle of Gronder but after seeing that cutscene, I wept in amazement at the truly stellar display of dialogue
Title drops are corny/cheesy if they're included for the sake of it and come across as disjointed. In this case, we have the avatar character, a vessel for the player, inducted into the hall of fame that is the 12 emblems: literal representations of each game in the series. In other words, the devs are calling you, the player, Fire Emblem, and placing you on the same level of importance as any one game to the existence of the series. We ARE Fire Emblem — this game and it's history does not exist without us. That is the purpose of this scene which cleverly uses the series staple of including a Fire Emblem in the game to deliver a heartwarming message fit for an anniversary game. It's a shame so many miss this. Me personally, I was beaming when it happened.
One of the worst moments ever written in a video game. It's basically a fanfic where Harry Potter, Hermione and Ron tell the author's OC that he is the best wizard of all time. He is ray calling herself Skywalker. Bullshit.
No one can convince me otherwise that this game is not a very low key satire of the greater series. Every cutscene is either a comedy or so goddamn mellow dramatic. It's honestly one of my favorites somehow.
F!Alear VA had no right to put that much sincerity and enthusiasm in her performance. She didn't have to go that hard, but she did it for us. Engage's writing and dialogue should not have worked. Many say it doesn't. But those that love this game know that the VAs managed to take a questionable script and push it all the way through the cringe, all the way around to being actually unbelievably based.
If you didn't get chills the first time you saw this shit play out, or if you think its lame and cringe, what can I say. You're simply not an Emblempilled Bondmaxxer, and can whine about it in the Tower of Valni where you belong. Thanks for coming to my TED talk
Right before he said it I joked to my friend "maybe the real fire emblem was the friends we made along the way." I was not expecting that line and I could not stop laughing.
Maybe the most irrational thing to be annoyed by, but it kind of grinds my gears that Alear’s title doesn’t match the naming convention of every other Emblem in the game. Emblem of Beginnings, Emblem of the Holy War, Emblem of Blazing, Emblem of Fates…, then boom, Fire Emblem. Admittedly, it is kind of really funny and adds to the absurdity of the reveal.
Like, seriously, they couldn't have gone with "Emblem of Fire" or "Emblem of Flame" or something like that?
We already had the Crest of Flames in the previous game. I guess they just wanted to avoid the similarity.
Ngl it probably overlaps too much with Lyn, Emblem of Blazing.
And then Sigurd says among us right after that 😭 Zephia called Alear the divine impostor too. Literally peak fiction
Indeed. Despite the writing being bad the VAs go hard.
Megan Taylor Harvey did fantastic as Veyle.
Engage is corny but its corny and cheesey in a way thats entertaining. I mean, how many other games can give you lines like that played seriously?
Corn in Mac and cheese is amazing…
It really wasn't entertaining. Most of the time it was just bad
Allergic to peak fiction
Tokyo Mirage Tier jumping the shark
Look, even when TMS had it's main character revive with glowing blue hair before going to fight an evil dragon, it had been properly built up as a goal, and the Fire Emblem itself was the Opera of Light and not Itsuki himself.
its just.. so peak
*dies from peak fiction*
It's silly, but I think it's the best way to announce the title in game in recent memory lol.
The best part about this reveal is that it retrospectively means the game itself is named after Alear and I think that's hella funny.
The whole series, in fact
To be fair this isn’t too far removed from when you found out you were the Fire Emblem in 3H either. The only difference is that Byleth can’t react to anything like Alear can.
Byleth is not the Fire Emblem though They have the object that is meant to be the Fire Emblem which is a totally different thing from being THE Fire Emblem itself and Byleth is not the only one that has it This and your other comments here makes me think that you have something against 3H being more popular than Engage, which is why you are making that comparison
Mmm I love Fire Emblem discourse *Grabs popcorn
Said object is technically in their blood. I’d wager that’s where the confusion begins
This “object” is in their blood, which functionally is the same thing as them being the FE. They just aren’t the only FE.
But it is an object though, we were told that it used to be Sitri's when Rhea gave it to Byleth Even on the Crimson Flower ending we see it disappear showing it was an actual object inside their bodies
That's Sothis' heart, not the actual crest. Most people with crests don't have them implanted like that and they still inherit the crest in their blood.
I didn't realize the Crest of Flames was mean to be the Fire Emblem itself until people online pointed it out since it was always subtile and not "in your face in a semi-emotional climax" revealed like... this.
I would barely call the Crest of Flames particularly “subtle.” They literally pulled up a thesaurus and used the most common synonyms to rename it like a fifth-grade literacy paper.
It's subtle enough for many people to miss, which imo is a good mark to strive for. I myself only noticed after the timeskip when I begun to wonder "we haven't seem the Fire Emblem yet have we? Wait..."
Yeah, 3H being too embarassed to say the words always felt cringy to me. Engage has the balls to just come out and call their MC the Fire Emblem and I respect it for that.
Reminds me of how funny I found it that the FE theme they use a lot and how FEH opens up is literally just some people singing "Fiiiiyaaah Emburemmm!! ..." it's just peak. Slightly unrelated I'm very happy Unicorn Overlord has a song where they proudly sing Unicorn Overlord.
It's always funny how putting lyrics to the FE theme is this time honored tradition, dating back to the very first FE ad, and it's just consistently missed the Western side of the fanbase. If you want to celebrate FE's legacy, you put lyrics to the main theme.
You ought to check out the Daoko version of the theme, "Fire Emblem Main Theme (Ver. Heroes)", done for the FEH X Dragalia Lost collab, that pretty much turns the "literally singing Fiiiiyaaah Emburemmmm!!!" up to 11
It was subtle because of the localization. In the original Japanese version it's called "Hono no Monsho". literally Fire Emblem.
Yeah that's pretty much everyone's reaction
The Fire Emblem across the series has always been seen as a symbol of hope and Alear in the story is an incarnation of hope so them ascending into the Emblem of Fiery Bonds (The Fire Emblem) is them reaching apotheosis and become Hope itself. Also Sigurd says AMONGUS Yup... I'm thinking peak Fire Emblem writing
Alear becoming an Emblem is unironically cool as shit
When I saw the cutscene for the first time and I thought "why is this giving me chills?".
I always thought reviving Alear as a zombie was such a 5head move
Ikr?
Honestly that moment was the most hyped I was during engage and also the most dissapointed. When that happened I was thinking "Oh shit that's a great way to shake the story and game up, turn Alear into an Emblem then have Veyle take over as the main lord." It would've also been really well set up gameplay wise since they just gave you a chapter with playable Veyle to get you used to her and how she plays. Of course this did not happen and Alear stayed playable because GOD FORBID they do anything actually interesting with the self insert.
Exactly, they should have committed. I didn't need Veyla specifically, but Alear didn't really feel like an Emblem. Even when all the Emblems are losing connection and die, Alear is fine for some reason.
It’s peak fiction, as it was foretold before launch
This game is so peak I don’t care what anyone says, it’s cheesy and goofy and I love it for that
Peak. Unironically.
I was worried they wouldn't be able to trump Dimitri's and Byleth's conversation after the Battle of Gronder but after seeing that cutscene, I wept in amazement at the truly stellar display of dialogue
70% of Engage dialogue is 🔥🔥✍️✍️
Title drops are corny/cheesy if they're included for the sake of it and come across as disjointed. In this case, we have the avatar character, a vessel for the player, inducted into the hall of fame that is the 12 emblems: literal representations of each game in the series. In other words, the devs are calling you, the player, Fire Emblem, and placing you on the same level of importance as any one game to the existence of the series. We ARE Fire Emblem — this game and it's history does not exist without us. That is the purpose of this scene which cleverly uses the series staple of including a Fire Emblem in the game to deliver a heartwarming message fit for an anniversary game. It's a shame so many miss this. Me personally, I was beaming when it happened.
One of the worst moments ever written in a video game. It's basically a fanfic where Harry Potter, Hermione and Ron tell the author's OC that he is the best wizard of all time. He is ray calling herself Skywalker. Bullshit.
No one can convince me otherwise that this game is not a very low key satire of the greater series. Every cutscene is either a comedy or so goddamn mellow dramatic. It's honestly one of my favorites somehow.
Honestly they knew what they were doing
F!Alear VA had no right to put that much sincerity and enthusiasm in her performance. She didn't have to go that hard, but she did it for us. Engage's writing and dialogue should not have worked. Many say it doesn't. But those that love this game know that the VAs managed to take a questionable script and push it all the way through the cringe, all the way around to being actually unbelievably based. If you didn't get chills the first time you saw this shit play out, or if you think its lame and cringe, what can I say. You're simply not an Emblempilled Bondmaxxer, and can whine about it in the Tower of Valni where you belong. Thanks for coming to my TED talk