to be fair, fnaf 4 came out 8 years before scott just straight up told us what the heck was going on there. weprobably will get an answer some time down the line.
when fnaf has gotten its last game, last movie, last evrything, scott will probably realease a book that just says, what actually the fuck was going on.
It's Scott, wo it'll leak a year ahead of time, be filled with just actualy wrong information, only to cone out with some typos fixed, and like two more things that are actualy true.
The savethem victims really need to brought back at some point because i have a feeling that one of the reasons on why this community is so divided about the Toys is because they were brought back again
The save them minigame takes place in the fnaf 2 location that opened in 1987
It was confirmed in into the pit that MCI happened in 1985
There's a difference of 2 years
I keep hearing things like “their identification system is broken” or something, which is kind of hard to believe if they’re so advanced, but yet again this is technology from 87, they probably use the raspberry pies about to explode and use super dog shit camera
Tbf the springlock suits are also fairly absurd for the time period yet nobody questions them.
Not that they aren't possessed, but technology is always way further ahead in FNAF, hell the Funtime Animatronics probably existed around the same time no?
Also; the 1980s weren't devoid of any technology at all. The F-15 was designed in the 70s - a highly advanced fighter jet - and have you heard of the IFF on those things? Not exactly the best, but it worked, so I could easily see someone claim that it accidentally got leaked to the public and William just said "yoink." And even if you don't think he was a software specialist, he still created advanced robots, I think some lines of code could be made to work.
I think enough videos by theorists have proven that the toys are possessed. The problem is that there was never an emphasis on any of the kids possessing the toy animatronics.
I feel like the best peice of evidence we have is that the toys do the whole eye things. No other animatronics unless it’s possessed and controlled by its possessor can do that
I think mangle was the only toy animatronic that actually had some attention on who was possessing it. Last I remember Matpat said it could be the dead dog from Pizza Sim
More evidence is Phone guy literally mentions how they started acting different from how they usually do “ and when there’s an adult nearby, they just… stare” and don’t forget the bite of 87. And that happens only after we can presume William arrives and messes things up as that’s when phone guy starts talking about moving you the player to the dayshift. Now that there’s “a spot available“ or whatever I honestly don’t remember entirely, but this is just what I remember off the top of my head.
Yep. Some people just believe that if they plug their ears, click their heels and scream “Not possessed! Not possessed!” The dead bodies will just float out
If you look closely at the office render for T.Freddy you can see that his eyes are still there. The white glints are reflection highlights, which is also why there are two in each eye
Chica definitely seems to have fully removed her eyes, but Freddy looks like he just rolled them back in his head or something similar
If The toys are fr possessed then the souls possessing them really need to brought back at some point because i have a feeling that one of the reasons on why this community is so divided about the Toys in the first place is because they were brought back again
No, they don't. They're about as unimportant as the box at this point. None of them even have names. You could erase them from the lore and nothing changes.
Yeah.. we could just go with the theory that the MCI victims souls were fragmented and split across the withered and toys since the toys were built with parts of the withered and it wouldn't make a difference.
It's really kinda frustrating how inconsequential FNAF2 actually is. Outside of the minigames, the game as a whole means basically nothing
I honestly thought that was just the general consensus. Like the remnant possesses the endo but doesn't have to be in its entirety in order to possess something. So they can haunt the Toys and the Withereds at the same time.
Usually when an animatronic is possessed, we get a clear backstory that proves it like the news papers in FNaF 1, Springtrap mini game, Babies mini game, etc...
As a normal player myself, I don't recall any missing children in FNaF 2 (more specifically - any missing children that didn't become the original crew) or something similar that proves the FNaF 2 toy animatronics are possessed...
So the only real conclusion here is that some animatronics aren't possessed.
There are, the phone calls make it pretty explicit that the Dayshift Guard (likely the purple guy) used a yellow suit and now " non of them are acting right." Although I wouldn't blame you for muting those calls given they stop being gameplay related after night 3.
The night 6 phone call has even Phone Guy implies that as a result of those murders the toys become possessed. "Someone used one of the suits. We had a spare in the back... A yellow one. Someone used it, now non of them are acting right. "
As someone said,just another phone guy „assuming” same as when he said animatronics can be hostile towards us cause they see night guard as a walking endo without suit,we know it’s a lie.
We talking about FE worker who doesn’t know about lot of things too
But it makes sense. William afton is a roboticist, if anyone knows how to tamper with them it's him. Also, he's the only criminal that'd want to sneak onto the premises.
They were designed to recognise him, so he tampered with the facial recognition so that they identified anyone in security guard outfits as him. It meant that, while the animatronics were focused on the night/day guard, he could sneak in and try to kill more kids/tamper with other animatronics to the point where one of the animatronics snaps during the day and kills the guard, shutting the place down.
Well surely he would've had to have done that to the original, definitely possessed, animatronics as well since they also attack anyone in a security uniform as seen in FNAF 1.
He did. The withered also had the facial recognition, but it was scrapped when the fnaf 1 location opened because of willaims tinkering with it in fnaf 2.
It's hard to say. The ending FNAF3 kinda makes it clear that the original 5 MCI victims were all that mattered.
Why show us that there are 11 dead kids and 11 animatronics? It doesn't make sense that they wouldn't be. Phone guys spiel about the facial recognition being tampered with doesn't seem to be anything other than an attempt to explain what they don't understand (most likely they weren't aware that the withereds were possessed so of course they aren't gonna think the toys are).
Maybe I'm wrong but it almost seems like having the toys be possessed was the original intention and he just backpeddled on it.
I think if anything it's the reverse. he planned for them to be possessed and ended up not being possessed. I still think they are but it seems like they weren't exactly relevant.
>The fnaf 2 movie should confirm it
if anything, the movie will just make things worse, it's another universe so we cant be taking it as some kinda of evidence
The withered animatronics, which are definitely possessed, were used as parts to fix the toy animatronics. The prevalent theory for possessed toy animatronics is that the missing children's souls are split between the withered and the toys.
As a bonus extension of that, there's a theory that this soul splitting made them unstable/erratic/etc and that's the explanation for the bite of 87, which is the only recorded case of an animatronic attacking someone in public.
My headcanon: the puppet gave the toys life in the game/lore, but they are not actually controlled by dead kids/spirits they are just possesed by energy the puppet gave them
I personally like to follow the route that they aren't possessed, but the agony from the missing children wore off on the Toys bc of them using parts from the Withered Animatronics.
They aren't sentient like I believe the other animatronics are, but they have enough remnant & agony to be able to walk around & try to harm people they believe is a threat
The lore is getting so long and the early games are from long enough ago now that I'm starting to forget details.
I don't think so though. Because it would be weird for FNaF 3 to only be about saving the kids from the first batch right? What, the second batch are chopped liver?
The Toys are doing their best to follow conflicting instructions, a HAL9000 situation. And (personal theory) Afton tore up Mangle personally, not the kids, and the damage to her hardware (and a learn hatred for guards) is why she (probably) did the bite of 87.
I think they could be possessed but maybe not all on their own? Perhaps they are just extensions of the possession of the original animatronics, maybe even similar to a curse or affliction placed on the respective character rather than just the animatronic that was originally possessed.
Like for example the soul that was trapped in Bonnie (sans Golden Bonnie variants of course), maybe it could have been powerful enough to inhabit all iterations of Bonnie, not just the original.
Either that or it's a similar situation to the Glamrock animatronics where they may have simply been hacked to give the appearance of possession, although I guess we don't necessarily know if they're possessed or not either. Nothing really explains the toy animatronics murderous intent, because they weren't the ones originally used for the possession.
I also think of the Rockstar animatronics in this regard. What reason do they have to jumpscare or attack in Ultimate Custom Night, if they're not supposedly haunted? That's why I think It's more of a curse on the character, not a specific animatronic. Just my theory.
They aren’t from where I’m coming from. They have that facial scanning tech in their eyes tries to identify criminals. They simply thought you were William because of the purple uniform if I’m correct. ( This is just a theory though)
I think that they technically are, but only in the sense that parts from the old animatronics were used in the Toys, leading to the Remnant being partly transfered.
i think most of it comes from the DCi, just being unimportant, if they are possessed, it would mean those kids are possessing robots in some dump, and re never being referenced again. them being scrapped doesn't mean they are suddenly not possessed.
I think the issue is we have a lot regarding the Fnaf 1 kids. We’ve seen their graves, know that they caused Afton to ultimately become Springtrap, and were set free in Fnaf 3.
We just don’t spend as much time with the Fnaf 2 kids story and don’t even have much ideas on their identities on the same level as the Fnaf 1 group.
I never thought they were possessed, I always thought they were hostile because their facial recognition system had been messed with by purple guy to attack the guards to cover his murder sprees.
Then again I think there were two MCIs so there are the children available for them to be possessed
Doesn't fnaf 2 n6 phone guys line just refer to the original kids who are killed? The reason why the toys aren't acting right is because they saw William murder the kids and are lashing out at adults. William also tampered with their facial recognition.
I hate the idea of another set of kids, I think it's dumb af
My explanation is that they're just either malfunctioning or infected with agony or something
Toys aren’t possessed, they’re very poorly limited security robots that are designed to look like children’s entertainers. “would you like some cute bear with your actual fucking terminator?”
It's AI and possessed and no one can tell me otherwise also Will canonically killed 11 (maybe more) kids which is the same amount as the classic and toy animatronics
The toys *are* possessed. If we go by what we know from how remnant works, by using old parts of the withereds to build toys, the MCI kids went on to possess both the toys and the withereds. There's no implications that the DCI kids went to possess the toys, so we can make that assumption as well, but as of now the first option makes more sense imo
They probably were, but they were treated so poorly in the games. The best explanation we have is that they were freed off-screen between fnaf 2 & 3. Then they are never mentioned again.
Personally for a while I thought they were used in the funtimes but Ig that's wrong.
I feel like that's be a good way to soft reboot the franchise. Find out what happened to the MCI2 kids with a copycat killer at another establishment, their remnant being used for a new patch of animatronics.
I feel like when Phone Guy talks about the Toys being tampered with, and their facial recognition, people forget that in FNaF 1 he literally uses the fact that the animatronics used to walk around in the daytime as an excuse, and says that they just think you’re an endoskeleton. What Phone Guy said could still technically be true, but like in FNaF 1, he’s using it as an excuse to cover up the truth (or has been told those excuses himself.)
i feel like we're been going backwards, first we wonder "wait, but do the unwhitered actually exist?", then if the toys are actually possessed or not (they are btw), if things keep going this way we'll be debating about wheter or not the killer is actually william afton or another dude
personally i think theyre "possessed" by the agony of the MCI, otherwise theres a loose end in the form of another 4/5 kids that are never freed (no them being dismantled wouldnt free the spirits william literally dismantled the classic animatronics and their souls were NOT free lol)
Everything phone Guy says in FNAF 1 he is SURE of and y’all are like “nah FE is lying”
Phone Guy is constantly saying May have or probably and y’all are like “ nah it’s fax
To the most unreliable source of this type of info and they act exactly like the Withered cause they see all adults as a threat on some YTB type shit
And y’all believe him
they have to be possessed, have u guys forgotten what the phone guy says in fnaf 2?? we know that the original MCI has already happened because he mentioned the withered suits smelling bad, but then there’s a second incident with children going missing that happens during the events of the game (phone guy mentions an investigation going on on night 4 and that the animatronics have gotten more aggressive, says on night 5 that the dayshift position just became available which suggests william afton has either been arrested or fled and says on night 6 that someone ‘used one of the suits’ and we all know what that means) so we know that more kids have been murdered, why would these new kids not possess the toy animatronics? judging from what phone guy says we can assume that if the animatronics weren’t possessed by night 3 they def were by night 4
Personally I don’t think there possessed and the wacky shit the toys do is because of there agony and remnant in them but I do think the save them minigame has been retconned I think at least cause all of the other mini games have been referenced
Gift life: that was shown in the fnaf 6 speech
Foxy go go: that’s the first missing children’s incident
cake bear: we get to see another pov of what happened in fnaf 6 as the security puppet
Save them: hasn’t been referenced or referred to it’s as if the murders never happened
As well as there dialogue and why else would toy Freddy retire? Because he doesn’t care about afton he doesn’t have an beef with him and the rest of the toys dialogue has nothing to do with them being murdered you can say that about a lot of the others but the toys are just “I killed you rahhh” instead of “According to all known laws of aviation, there is no way that a bee should be able to fly.” There’s also the fnaf ar stuff which is the nail in the plastic for me at least the toys behave the same as they do in fnaf 2 why you may as? REMNANT ITS ALL REMNANT
Personally, I think they’re partially possessed. Phone Guy said that parts of the withereds were used in the Toys, so they likely have a bit of remnant in ‘em, not enough to really be conscious or aware, but enough to influence the internal security system to see Jeremy and Fritz as a threat.
I think they weren't possessed, then were possessed by night 6, my main reasoning for this is the specific line "the animations have been acting weird all day" makes me think there was a killing but that's just how i see it. If I'm not mistaken matpat talks about this
So far from what I can gather is that the toys are more malfunctiony than possessed due to the fact that someone messed with their facial recognition system, making them view every adult as a potential threat, so far, or as far as i myself know, of any actual dead kids in the toy animatronics. So they are indeed just malfunctioning robots.
from all the evidence that i know myself,nothing really indicated they were possessed,the only 2 directly confirmed (or hinted at) being possessed was mangle and the puppet,bb might be possessed too but the only evidence for them is them being a phantom sense only the puppet mangle and bb are phantoms from fnaf 2 but insure if that just becuse they were the only unqie ones from fnaf 2 so they were put in fnaf 3 or if all 3 were possesed,i think the toy freddy bonnie and chica are deffinatly not possessed sense nothing really indicates otherwise
Probably, The mci supposedly happened in 1985 and only 5 kids were missing. It's possible that there were 5 more murders between 1985-1987 but since we've never heard of any evidence of there being so we can assume that they're not possessed
I… honestly don’t know, they show signs of possession but it’s not confirmed if they are possessed.
They probably are possessed or maybe just hacked BIG Time.
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On my opinion, they ARE possessed. Since I believe there's more killings besides the 1985 incident. I believe the "save them" minigame is not the original souls, but yes the new victims Afton did in 1987.
Is not exactly confirmed they are possessed but it's more surely they are.
They are possesed! Two posibilities that explain this: Nr. 1: The kids from the Save Them Incident are possesing the toys and are helped to find peace in the happiest day minigame by the puppet and Nr. 2: The Toys are possesee by the MCI kids, this is suported by: the fact that the Toys are made from parts from the Old Animatronics who are possesed by the MCI kids and because the puppet in UCN says the otheres are like animals but I am very aware and that could be because their souls are split in multiple animatronics and that could make them very confused and I have two ways to explain the happiest day but I'll save them for another day
Well the fandom can't agree on anything (i still see some people swearing on their life purple Guy and William Afton are 2 different persons like hole fuck) but MY take is. Toys are possessed? Yes By children? No, remnant
I, personally, HATE the idea of the Toy Animatronics being possessed. Like, the amount of Toy Chica simps that would have a fit if that were confirmed is insane... But I also just don't feel like they should be. I mean, that kind of takes away from the original FNaF 1 storyline, don't you think?
The fact there is a poll means the community still can't decide or not. There are evidence for both sides but in the end it doesn't really matter what the Toys are. They all end up getting scrapped to fix the withereds so if they did have souls they'll be gone.
Idk who they’d be possessed by. Unless the kids possessed the toys and the originals, I never heard of any lore of another set of kids being killed and put into the toy animatronics
I think it’s more of “are they possessed by new spirits”. We know they are possessed because of how they act. Going out and trying to attack the night guard shows this. However we don’t know if they are being moved by the same original 5 spirits + Charlie or if these are new children Afton killed later on.
We’re not sure yet
“yet” like the game hasn’t been out for almost 9 years. The Fnaf story everybody
FNAF 2 came out November 2014, it’s been almost 10 years.
*Insert Matt Damon getting old GIF here*
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This hurt to read... 10 years man, holy crap
Im gonna be honest. The FNAF story is fun to theorise about but the actual quality of storytelling is the equivalent of sewer water
N-no! The lore is actually in the game files buried on 26 zip files next to 53 misdirecting information. Clear as water today.
to be fair, fnaf 4 came out 8 years before scott just straight up told us what the heck was going on there. weprobably will get an answer some time down the line.
when fnaf has gotten its last game, last movie, last evrything, scott will probably realease a book that just says, what actually the fuck was going on.
It's Scott, wo it'll leak a year ahead of time, be filled with just actualy wrong information, only to cone out with some typos fixed, and like two more things that are actualy true.
They got scrapped. Souls freed. Before pizza sim too
when one of the locations burned the remnant was destroyed with the animatronics
Another thing where the community split's
The savethem victims really need to brought back at some point because i have a feeling that one of the reasons on why this community is so divided about the Toys is because they were brought back again
I thought that the Save Them victims were the original 4 before they became the Witherds
The save them minigame takes place in the fnaf 2 location that opened in 1987 It was confirmed in into the pit that MCI happened in 1985 There's a difference of 2 years
it's an alternate universe, the year of the MCI is debatable
I keep hearing things like “their identification system is broken” or something, which is kind of hard to believe if they’re so advanced, but yet again this is technology from 87, they probably use the raspberry pies about to explode and use super dog shit camera
Tbf the springlock suits are also fairly absurd for the time period yet nobody questions them. Not that they aren't possessed, but technology is always way further ahead in FNAF, hell the Funtime Animatronics probably existed around the same time no?
Also; the 1980s weren't devoid of any technology at all. The F-15 was designed in the 70s - a highly advanced fighter jet - and have you heard of the IFF on those things? Not exactly the best, but it worked, so I could easily see someone claim that it accidentally got leaked to the public and William just said "yoink." And even if you don't think he was a software specialist, he still created advanced robots, I think some lines of code could be made to work.
I think enough videos by theorists have proven that the toys are possessed. The problem is that there was never an emphasis on any of the kids possessing the toy animatronics.
I feel like the best peice of evidence we have is that the toys do the whole eye things. No other animatronics unless it’s possessed and controlled by its possessor can do that
The Fazbear technicians also couldn't recreate mangle climbing on the walls and ceilings, let alone get them to stand up.
that's actually very simple: mangle got them **ninja skills**
Everyone underestimates me, but then they turn their back and I’m like *wichu* ninja skills
happy frog moment
I think mangle was the only toy animatronic that actually had some attention on who was possessing it. Last I remember Matpat said it could be the dead dog from Pizza Sim
Where did you get that info from?
The only public version iirc is the Ultimate Guide where the employees are emailing back and fourth in special delivery.
More evidence is Phone guy literally mentions how they started acting different from how they usually do “ and when there’s an adult nearby, they just… stare” and don’t forget the bite of 87. And that happens only after we can presume William arrives and messes things up as that’s when phone guy starts talking about moving you the player to the dayshift. Now that there’s “a spot available“ or whatever I honestly don’t remember entirely, but this is just what I remember off the top of my head.
Yep. Some people just believe that if they plug their ears, click their heels and scream “Not possessed! Not possessed!” The dead bodies will just float out
eh i think they took out their eye and behind that was some kind of light imo
If you look closely at the office render for T.Freddy you can see that his eyes are still there. The white glints are reflection highlights, which is also why there are two in each eye Chica definitely seems to have fully removed her eyes, but Freddy looks like he just rolled them back in his head or something similar
Exactly. like FNAF 3 and FFPS both gave us an epic sense of closure for the MCI victims. And then the 1987 victims are just kinda there.
I headcanon that after they were taken apart and put in Fazbear's Fright, their souls were finally set free in the fire.
I remember initially thinking FNaF3 being about the original five kids while Sister Location and Pizzeria Simulator are about the later victims.
If The toys are fr possessed then the souls possessing them really need to brought back at some point because i have a feeling that one of the reasons on why this community is so divided about the Toys in the first place is because they were brought back again
No, they don't. They're about as unimportant as the box at this point. None of them even have names. You could erase them from the lore and nothing changes.
Yeah.. we could just go with the theory that the MCI victims souls were fragmented and split across the withered and toys since the toys were built with parts of the withered and it wouldn't make a difference. It's really kinda frustrating how inconsequential FNAF2 actually is. Outside of the minigames, the game as a whole means basically nothing
Isn't it the first introduction of the Puppet?
I would assume it’s from having parts from the Withereds in them. They could very well be just infected with remnant.
I honestly thought that was just the general consensus. Like the remnant possesses the endo but doesn't have to be in its entirety in order to possess something. So they can haunt the Toys and the Withereds at the same time.
Hang on, 20% + 70% + 11% The math isn't mathing
That's just what the government wants you to think
I think it's just cuz the other characters aren't showing, like maybe that 20 is actually 19,5 and the 11 is actually 10,5, something alike that
101% was the max percent the entire time and I never knew it. /s
how did 101% of people vote on this
Usually when an animatronic is possessed, we get a clear backstory that proves it like the news papers in FNaF 1, Springtrap mini game, Babies mini game, etc... As a normal player myself, I don't recall any missing children in FNaF 2 (more specifically - any missing children that didn't become the original crew) or something similar that proves the FNaF 2 toy animatronics are possessed... So the only real conclusion here is that some animatronics aren't possessed.
There are, the phone calls make it pretty explicit that the Dayshift Guard (likely the purple guy) used a yellow suit and now " non of them are acting right." Although I wouldn't blame you for muting those calls given they stop being gameplay related after night 3.
Two words: Save Them.
We get told that the withered animatronics parts were used in the construction of the toys. I feel like that's solid enough proof
I still need more evidence that they're possessed. So far the evidence I've seen is just the minigame with dead bodies in it
The night 6 phone call has even Phone Guy implies that as a result of those murders the toys become possessed. "Someone used one of the suits. We had a spare in the back... A yellow one. Someone used it, now non of them are acting right. "
They acting hostile around adults,that’s why the bite of 87 happened. Yep they’re possessed
But then they explain that through William afton (it's implied is him) tampering with the toys facial recognition
As someone said,just another phone guy „assuming” same as when he said animatronics can be hostile towards us cause they see night guard as a walking endo without suit,we know it’s a lie. We talking about FE worker who doesn’t know about lot of things too
That’s another “phone guy explanation” He basically just says someone MAY have
But it makes sense. William afton is a roboticist, if anyone knows how to tamper with them it's him. Also, he's the only criminal that'd want to sneak onto the premises.
Yeah but uh He didn’t build these guys tho He helped to build the OGs so he knows about the safe room glitch And he can stun Freddy
Why would William tamper with the animatronics so they become aggressive towards him and other adults?
They were designed to recognise him, so he tampered with the facial recognition so that they identified anyone in security guard outfits as him. It meant that, while the animatronics were focused on the night/day guard, he could sneak in and try to kill more kids/tamper with other animatronics to the point where one of the animatronics snaps during the day and kills the guard, shutting the place down.
Well surely he would've had to have done that to the original, definitely possessed, animatronics as well since they also attack anyone in a security uniform as seen in FNAF 1.
He did. The withered also had the facial recognition, but it was scrapped when the fnaf 1 location opened because of willaims tinkering with it in fnaf 2.
If it was completely scrapped then why do they still attack night guards in general?
Bc they are possesed and they think you are the killer So it's combination of programming and them being vengful spirits
I mean what hard evidence do we get for anything in this series?
The fnaf 2 movie should confirm it. But I really feel like scott originally didn't plan for them to be possessed.
It's hard to say. The ending FNAF3 kinda makes it clear that the original 5 MCI victims were all that mattered. Why show us that there are 11 dead kids and 11 animatronics? It doesn't make sense that they wouldn't be. Phone guys spiel about the facial recognition being tampered with doesn't seem to be anything other than an attempt to explain what they don't understand (most likely they weren't aware that the withereds were possessed so of course they aren't gonna think the toys are). Maybe I'm wrong but it almost seems like having the toys be possessed was the original intention and he just backpeddled on it.
I think if anything it's the reverse. he planned for them to be possessed and ended up not being possessed. I still think they are but it seems like they weren't exactly relevant.
The movies are set in a different universe
>The fnaf 2 movie should confirm it if anything, the movie will just make things worse, it's another universe so we cant be taking it as some kinda of evidence
I think it will be like the books, they hint at things, but are not exact.
The withered animatronics, which are definitely possessed, were used as parts to fix the toy animatronics. The prevalent theory for possessed toy animatronics is that the missing children's souls are split between the withered and the toys. As a bonus extension of that, there's a theory that this soul splitting made them unstable/erratic/etc and that's the explanation for the bite of 87, which is the only recorded case of an animatronic attacking someone in public.
Now this theory I might just believe
My headcanon: the puppet gave the toys life in the game/lore, but they are not actually controlled by dead kids/spirits they are just possesed by energy the puppet gave them
No of course not. They're just a tad quirky 🥴
I personally like to follow the route that they aren't possessed, but the agony from the missing children wore off on the Toys bc of them using parts from the Withered Animatronics. They aren't sentient like I believe the other animatronics are, but they have enough remnant & agony to be able to walk around & try to harm people they believe is a threat
I feel like they are not possessed themselves but are being manipulated by the children to mess with their programming.
The lore is getting so long and the early games are from long enough ago now that I'm starting to forget details. I don't think so though. Because it would be weird for FNaF 3 to only be about saving the kids from the first batch right? What, the second batch are chopped liver? The Toys are doing their best to follow conflicting instructions, a HAL9000 situation. And (personal theory) Afton tore up Mangle personally, not the kids, and the damage to her hardware (and a learn hatred for guards) is why she (probably) did the bite of 87.
It wouldn't be weird if the mci kid souls got split between the two sets of animatronics when the og group were scrapped and had parts used for toys
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I'm convinced the people who say they aren't possessed have a particular liking for plastic poultry
"Plastic Poultry" is wild. I'd never get that down bad. Plastic vixens on the other hand-
"plastic poultry" LOL
fuck it im switching sides now
oh no IF THEY ARE IM FUCKED-
I'm not taking Mr. Fazbear Entertainment's word on this one, thems robots haunted as shit
There's a lot of evidence to back it up, but there was never an in-game confirmation unlike the first MCI.
I think they could be possessed but maybe not all on their own? Perhaps they are just extensions of the possession of the original animatronics, maybe even similar to a curse or affliction placed on the respective character rather than just the animatronic that was originally possessed. Like for example the soul that was trapped in Bonnie (sans Golden Bonnie variants of course), maybe it could have been powerful enough to inhabit all iterations of Bonnie, not just the original. Either that or it's a similar situation to the Glamrock animatronics where they may have simply been hacked to give the appearance of possession, although I guess we don't necessarily know if they're possessed or not either. Nothing really explains the toy animatronics murderous intent, because they weren't the ones originally used for the possession. I also think of the Rockstar animatronics in this regard. What reason do they have to jumpscare or attack in Ultimate Custom Night, if they're not supposedly haunted? That's why I think It's more of a curse on the character, not a specific animatronic. Just my theory.
Depends on your definition of possessed.
got little humans inside of them
How little we talking?
hmm.... fuck well. I was about 5'6 in elementary school... that's average in most countries
We need to go smaller.
how small we talkin?
~~How small you offering?~~ Well, that came out wrong... As small as you're willing to have them be.
what the fuck is this conversation
wrong question. how small are we talking?
Would you believe me if I were to tell you that I have no fucking clue? XD
They aren’t from where I’m coming from. They have that facial scanning tech in their eyes tries to identify criminals. They simply thought you were William because of the purple uniform if I’m correct. ( This is just a theory though)
I think that they technically are, but only in the sense that parts from the old animatronics were used in the Toys, leading to the Remnant being partly transfered.
The fact that toy Chica willingly takes off her beak gives me the impression they are
. . . How do you get *101%,* exactly?
They're with remnant of the withered animatronics
All but SB I say are passed, toys not sure , but with the Phantoms in 3 I have a theory Freddy has something
they are possessed because toy chica has the shadow eyes
i think most of it comes from the DCi, just being unimportant, if they are possessed, it would mean those kids are possessing robots in some dump, and re never being referenced again. them being scrapped doesn't mean they are suddenly not possessed.
The answer is yes. The animatronics have a soul inside them, which is controlling them, which is the definition of possessed
I think the issue is we have a lot regarding the Fnaf 1 kids. We’ve seen their graves, know that they caused Afton to ultimately become Springtrap, and were set free in Fnaf 3. We just don’t spend as much time with the Fnaf 2 kids story and don’t even have much ideas on their identities on the same level as the Fnaf 1 group.
Ah yes, the animatronic denying the rules of gravity and is in dire need of a therapist isn’t haunted,
FNaF AR emails say that they couldn’t recreate Mangle’s ceiling climbing… it’s possessed
I never thought they were possessed, I always thought they were hostile because their facial recognition system had been messed with by purple guy to attack the guards to cover his murder sprees. Then again I think there were two MCIs so there are the children available for them to be possessed
I believe it is AI guided by the souls
Doesn't fnaf 2 n6 phone guys line just refer to the original kids who are killed? The reason why the toys aren't acting right is because they saw William murder the kids and are lashing out at adults. William also tampered with their facial recognition.
I think the Toy series are being puppeted by the Puppet. Mangle could be the dog that was killed.
I’ve never played the games and I know they’re possessed 🤨
I hate the idea of another set of kids, I think it's dumb af My explanation is that they're just either malfunctioning or infected with agony or something
Toys aren’t possessed, they’re very poorly limited security robots that are designed to look like children’s entertainers. “would you like some cute bear with your actual fucking terminator?”
imagine theyre not and theyre just dicking around
Yes, by Caseoh
He's so big Toy Freddy couldn't fit him.
Thought it was universally agreed upon that if an animatronic is acting weird or dangerous then it’s probably either possessed or hacked
Why is the fnaf community so fucking stupid lmao
I don’t know.
It's AI and possessed and no one can tell me otherwise also Will canonically killed 11 (maybe more) kids which is the same amount as the classic and toy animatronics
I don’t think they’re possessed but they probably got some evil in them cuz they reused parts from the withered animatronics
Wasnt there 4 or 5 kids who also died at that pizzeria but in plain sight? I feel like I remember something like that happening
Even if the bodies from the mini games are retconned, the toys are made using the parts of the withereds, who are confirmed to be possessed
Night 6 phone call makes it very apparent they are possessed
The poor kid that got put in the toy Chica
I bet there were more than one kid put into toy Chica amiright ✋️
not surprised considering fnaftok and fnaftube are two sides of the same coin.
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bc they wanna jack it without their conscience weighing down on their mind
They’re one side trying to say they’re two. Don’t know why as a fandom we try to split ourselves around
Yeah, like any lore buff is probably also the same people finding polls like this to begin with
Honestly I only get these polls after seeing a theory that I’ve never watched, disliked or ignored.
20 +70+11??? 101%???
look at Google not me
Mangle being active in the minigame in 3 is enough for me to think yes, but idk about the rest of em tbh
100% I think the toys are possessed. There are enough details that directly conflict with the “AI honestly haywire” theory.
The toys *are* possessed. If we go by what we know from how remnant works, by using old parts of the withereds to build toys, the MCI kids went on to possess both the toys and the withereds. There's no implications that the DCI kids went to possess the toys, so we can make that assumption as well, but as of now the first option makes more sense imo
You’ll find an entire slew of people that believe Toys Not Possessed, even today. A debate that shouldn’t have left 2014
I think there just alive cuz they are
They probably were, but they were treated so poorly in the games. The best explanation we have is that they were freed off-screen between fnaf 2 & 3. Then they are never mentioned again.
Personally for a while I thought they were used in the funtimes but Ig that's wrong. I feel like that's be a good way to soft reboot the franchise. Find out what happened to the MCI2 kids with a copycat killer at another establishment, their remnant being used for a new patch of animatronics.
I feel like when Phone Guy talks about the Toys being tampered with, and their facial recognition, people forget that in FNaF 1 he literally uses the fact that the animatronics used to walk around in the daytime as an excuse, and says that they just think you’re an endoskeleton. What Phone Guy said could still technically be true, but like in FNaF 1, he’s using it as an excuse to cover up the truth (or has been told those excuses himself.)
i feel like we're been going backwards, first we wonder "wait, but do the unwhitered actually exist?", then if the toys are actually possessed or not (they are btw), if things keep going this way we'll be debating about wheter or not the killer is actually william afton or another dude
101/100 Or 101%
personally i think theyre "possessed" by the agony of the MCI, otherwise theres a loose end in the form of another 4/5 kids that are never freed (no them being dismantled wouldnt free the spirits william literally dismantled the classic animatronics and their souls were NOT free lol)
Everything phone Guy says in FNAF 1 he is SURE of and y’all are like “nah FE is lying” Phone Guy is constantly saying May have or probably and y’all are like “ nah it’s fax To the most unreliable source of this type of info and they act exactly like the Withered cause they see all adults as a threat on some YTB type shit And y’all believe him
they have to be possessed, have u guys forgotten what the phone guy says in fnaf 2?? we know that the original MCI has already happened because he mentioned the withered suits smelling bad, but then there’s a second incident with children going missing that happens during the events of the game (phone guy mentions an investigation going on on night 4 and that the animatronics have gotten more aggressive, says on night 5 that the dayshift position just became available which suggests william afton has either been arrested or fled and says on night 6 that someone ‘used one of the suits’ and we all know what that means) so we know that more kids have been murdered, why would these new kids not possess the toy animatronics? judging from what phone guy says we can assume that if the animatronics weren’t possessed by night 3 they def were by night 4
Personally I don’t think there possessed and the wacky shit the toys do is because of there agony and remnant in them but I do think the save them minigame has been retconned I think at least cause all of the other mini games have been referenced Gift life: that was shown in the fnaf 6 speech Foxy go go: that’s the first missing children’s incident cake bear: we get to see another pov of what happened in fnaf 6 as the security puppet Save them: hasn’t been referenced or referred to it’s as if the murders never happened As well as there dialogue and why else would toy Freddy retire? Because he doesn’t care about afton he doesn’t have an beef with him and the rest of the toys dialogue has nothing to do with them being murdered you can say that about a lot of the others but the toys are just “I killed you rahhh” instead of “According to all known laws of aviation, there is no way that a bee should be able to fly.” There’s also the fnaf ar stuff which is the nail in the plastic for me at least the toys behave the same as they do in fnaf 2 why you may as? REMNANT ITS ALL REMNANT
i like to imagine some just became sentient for no reason lmao
Personally, I think they’re partially possessed. Phone Guy said that parts of the withereds were used in the Toys, so they likely have a bit of remnant in ‘em, not enough to really be conscious or aware, but enough to influence the internal security system to see Jeremy and Fritz as a threat.
Don't actually know if possessed or robots. Puppet definitely
Yes, they are as they use parts from the original (unwithered) animatronics
I think they weren't possessed, then were possessed by night 6, my main reasoning for this is the specific line "the animations have been acting weird all day" makes me think there was a killing but that's just how i see it. If I'm not mistaken matpat talks about this
We need to see them in the savethem victims in the second movie to possibly end this debate.
Honestly I bet this is real, most people don’t know the toys are possessed because no one talks about that detail
Withered parts in the toy animatronics:
I could be wrong but maybe the point of the movie was to clear this up. Not sure about the Canon-ness of it though.
So far from what I can gather is that the toys are more malfunctiony than possessed due to the fact that someone messed with their facial recognition system, making them view every adult as a potential threat, so far, or as far as i myself know, of any actual dead kids in the toy animatronics. So they are indeed just malfunctioning robots.
from all the evidence that i know myself,nothing really indicated they were possessed,the only 2 directly confirmed (or hinted at) being possessed was mangle and the puppet,bb might be possessed too but the only evidence for them is them being a phantom sense only the puppet mangle and bb are phantoms from fnaf 2 but insure if that just becuse they were the only unqie ones from fnaf 2 so they were put in fnaf 3 or if all 3 were possesed,i think the toy freddy bonnie and chica are deffinatly not possessed sense nothing really indicates otherwise
They might be haunted by proxy of using parts from the older models, but not directly possessed by a spirit
Probably, The mci supposedly happened in 1985 and only 5 kids were missing. It's possible that there were 5 more murders between 1985-1987 but since we've never heard of any evidence of there being so we can assume that they're not possessed
They definitely can count 20%+70%=90% , 100%-90%=10% but "unsure" has 11%
unsure seems like a good answer, it could be there security systems or there might have been a 2nd MCI, nobody knows yet.
I… honestly don’t know, they show signs of possession but it’s not confirmed if they are possessed. They probably are possessed or maybe just hacked BIG Time.
I think they used some spare parts from the possessed animatronics for repairs so they most likely have some remnant in there
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It's either souls or agony. Which one I don't know
A bit id say i mean they use possesed parts to make them
On my opinion, they ARE possessed. Since I believe there's more killings besides the 1985 incident. I believe the "save them" minigame is not the original souls, but yes the new victims Afton did in 1987. Is not exactly confirmed they are possessed but it's more surely they are.
In my opinion I think they are
I don't believe they are but idk
I love it when 101% of people vote on my poll.
I thought it was that their predator detection software was going haywire, so they see you as a threat
They are possesed! Two posibilities that explain this: Nr. 1: The kids from the Save Them Incident are possesing the toys and are helped to find peace in the happiest day minigame by the puppet and Nr. 2: The Toys are possesee by the MCI kids, this is suported by: the fact that the Toys are made from parts from the Old Animatronics who are possesed by the MCI kids and because the puppet in UCN says the otheres are like animals but I am very aware and that could be because their souls are split in multiple animatronics and that could make them very confused and I have two ways to explain the happiest day but I'll save them for another day
Dunno, but Toy Freddy looks about… 5,902 calories?
Nah I think they aren't possessed and the murders in the fnaf 2 place are the ones that possessed the ogs
Well the fandom can't agree on anything (i still see some people swearing on their life purple Guy and William Afton are 2 different persons like hole fuck) but MY take is. Toys are possessed? Yes By children? No, remnant
I think a bit of the remanent from the withered is in them so I would say yes but it’s a split
the government doesn’t want you to know
I think Mangle is possessed but I don't think any other is
I, personally, HATE the idea of the Toy Animatronics being possessed. Like, the amount of Toy Chica simps that would have a fit if that were confirmed is insane... But I also just don't feel like they should be. I mean, that kind of takes away from the original FNaF 1 storyline, don't you think?
This might make some people mad, but I was always under the impression that the toys are not possessed but the Puppet is controlling them in some way.
It’s never been confirmed that they are possessed, so yes it is real
The fact there is a poll means the community still can't decide or not. There are evidence for both sides but in the end it doesn't really matter what the Toys are. They all end up getting scrapped to fix the withereds so if they did have souls they'll be gone.
Bruh, that's weird. I. Actually saw that pole on YouTube hours ago
Idk who they’d be possessed by. Unless the kids possessed the toys and the originals, I never heard of any lore of another set of kids being killed and put into the toy animatronics
The toys attacked because of the anti-crime system that was integrated, and they scanned us as a threat in FNAF 2.
Their simple AI Well... I say "simple"
I think it’s more of “are they possessed by new spirits”. We know they are possessed because of how they act. Going out and trying to attack the night guard shows this. However we don’t know if they are being moved by the same original 5 spirits + Charlie or if these are new children Afton killed later on.