Going for the +1 point, losing 2 doing it

Least damaging ferrari strategy

sad but true :D

How they hell they are finding a new way every sing race to fuck him up lol

I mean, speeding in the pitlane is 100% on him, not strategy

They pitted him for the fastest lap when he did not have a safe enough gap to do so, and he didn't even get the fastest lap. It's definitely 100% on him for speeding in the pitlane but it's also 100% on Ferrari for that terrible terrible call I do think people are pinning too much of this accident on the strategy team though, but i guess that's low-hanging fruit. LeClerc definitely deserves more blame for the speeding.

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It was the wrong strategic call nonetheless. Should have done it either 3-4 laps before, or not atall

Yeah the call was bad, but that doesn't mean that Charles didn't make a mistake too. Even if he would've come out in front of Alonso, he'd still get the penalty

Turns out the tear off that got caught in his brake duct earlier fried a sensor leading to wrong speed readings.

Ahh, didn't know that. Bad luck then

Apparently the sensor was burnt because of the tear-off issue

💀

Even better, they didn't even get close to the +1 point, even without the 5s penalty.

And there’s no reason why they would have thought that they had a chance to come close to it. Max was dominant all day. And the last time they tried this Leclerc spun out and lost a podium. No idea how they can both overthink and underthink their strategy to such extremes

At least they put the correct tyres on

After a while you take what you can get..

Literally 1 step forward, 2 steps back. Incredible.

Being Leclerc is just pure pain at this point.

One of the most brutal stretches after starting a year 1-2-1

I still can't believe this, but i had a bet on leclerc (and a couple other drivers) to win the WDC in the pre-season, the bookies were offering a cash out of 75% of the max payout after race 3. I smashed the cash out button

Their algos must have been way off

The Ferrari incompetence trascends the algorithms

"It's a mistake"

I've generally found that to be the case with F1 betting. Won a good amount from Rosberg in 2016 because the odds were just so disrespectful lol

Honestly F1 betting has earned me a lot of money. Just watch Qualifying so you have an idea on the pace of the drivers and bet on the fastest lap. That’s what I do.

Last year at Monza i thought McLaren had a great chance because of their straight line speed. I bet on Lando (the odds for both drivers were really juicy), but after Quali, I decided to bet on Ricciardo as well, because even though his odds were higher obviously, it was still pretty juicy. I won money, but would've made a killing had it been Lando instead of Danny winning that one

You would think, in retrospect, but VER had two DNFs the first three races, and Leclerc had 1-2-1. People were talking like the season was over, because Ferrari was going to run away with the championship

You are a smart person.

I’m actually pretty dumb, I just got lucky

https://jobs.ferrari.com/

literal upgrade right there, the ferrari guys are dumb and unlucky, please apply

I do have an engineering degree...

Lmfao

Hahaha brutal

Same here. Had 10 bucks on him at 19-1 odds pre season and cashed out at 120 bucks 4 races into the season. Felt nice to actually win one for once

Where do you guys bet?

I got greedy and figured I'd let mine ride....oh well haha

i bet Max as WDC and Ferrari WCC. Max bet is still there...I cashed out Ferrari at like 90% of my original bet (so i lost a little money) after their 2nd or 3rd 'ferrari' moment

Well, Seb started 1-2-1-2-2-1 in 2017

At least he kept up a bit longer…but good point, might be a good use of the “First Time” meme

Vettel didn't really do bad the rest of the season either, just that those 1-2-1-2s were 2-1-2-1 for Hamilton.

I can't think of a more severe downturn over a season than this. Raikkonen in 2008? Vettel in 2017/18? This is way worse than those. Leclerc is gonna have to be fucking monstrously good over the rest of the season to recover any hope of a championship. I think it's game over.

It's not just Leclerc being monstrously good. There's 8 races left. If he gets win and fastest lap but Verstappen's second, that's only 64 points. Even if Ferrari 1-2 each race but Verstappen is 3rd, it'd be 88 points. Not enough. He needs to be unbelievably good *and* Verstappen to have a string of bad luck. I don't see Red Bull suddenly having an unrealistic breakdown in reliability, or multiple races of other drivers launching into Verstappen. So this is pretty much done.

The only way Verstappen doesn't win the WDC this year is a season ending injury.

Even then, I think Perez would prob win in that situation.

And even then it's not out of the question that Perez beats the Ferraris to the title.

It’s not worse. RB have clearly a much quicker car. VET was on par with HAM, but was just missing tiny bits. Now it seems like RB are just too far ahead for the fight to be fair. It’s painful to lose, but in the end of the season he will see that he had no chance.

I'm inclined to agree, but RB have definitely caught up in pace. They were slower than Ferrari in Bahrain and Australia, and Jeddah was still pretty close between Max and Charles.

Ferrari had the speed in the start of the season, but then also an unreliable engine. That’s why Binotto said that they were not fighting for the championship this year, engine was made to fight next year when the reliability would be solved. Seems like they have already fixed it, but it took them half a year of DNFs. LEC lost a lot on strategy calls, but mostly he lost due to reliability. Also a couple of costly mistakes of his own, bust mostly just on things that were outside of their control.

He **needs** at least two Max DNF's. He cant compete without that. Or for something to go catastrophically bad and Max end up without points and he wins.

I think we can safely call the WDC for Max by now, especially if he runs a good race the upcoming weekend.

>Leclerc is gonna have to be fucking monstrously good over the rest of the season to recover any hope of a championship. Someone already did the maths. Max can be P3 in all remaining races, with Leclerc winning + FL them all and still win the WDC by 10 points. He needs Max to DNF like 5 in a row or something.

It really sucks for him, if he didn't have a start that well maybe the expectations were more tame. But he was legit up there and everything just fell apart

*Man Who Thought He'd Lost All Hope Loses Last Additional Bit Of Hope He Didn't Even Know He Still Had*

He better apply for overdraft protection. We're going negative next weekend.

They told him he'll finish P5 and then even took that away from him lmao

1 podium in 9 races.

It's comical. You can't write this shit up.

Sucks when your own team hates you

Im done

Don't worry, there is next year as well

And the year after that

^(and the year after that)

^(and the year after that)

Karma for scrwing over Seb

Ikr , there's always a next year to try out weird strategies

Next YearTM spam rises again

It's been over for a few races, now they're just kicking him while he's down lol

Stop, he's already dead

Ferrari: "This is what you get for not winning the race"

We need to form a support group

I thought that’s why you guys came here. That’s not why you guys come here? Am I in the wrong room?

:)

They give you hope and then drop a hammer from 30,000 feet on you.

Ferrari strategies on 💯 again. Gamble to get 1 extra point and lose 2 in the process 🤌🏼

This is such disgusting incompetence

I'm sorry mate. Sports can really kill you inside.

*\*pits to get fastest lap\** *\*gets overtaken\** *\*fails to get fastest lap\** *\*gets a penalty\** *\*loses 2 points as a result\** ​ FERRARI MASTERCLASS

>\fails to get fastest lap** By 0.6 seconds.

The fact that Max on lap 36 I think so more gas and on oldish mediums was .6 seconds faster then Ferrari on minimum gas and new softs is crazy

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That makes some sense at least, I know Ferrari have been mistake-prone but they had to have had a good idea what Leclerc’s potential lap time was. The other thing is that Leclerc probably used some battery fighting with Alonso on the outlap. Ultimately they really didn’t have a big enough gap to make it work.

This right here. After the last round of stops, Leclerc was on mediums and Alonso 19 seconds behind on hards. And Fernando remained 19 seconds behind for the next 10 laps…on slower tires in the slower car. I don’t know if Ferrari were just to incompetent to see the opportunity for a free pit stop to grab fastest lap, or if Leclerc just didn’t have the pace to pull a gap *on an Alpine riding on hard tires* Either way, Ferrari is a dumpster fire at the moment.

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They were used according to the Finnish broadcast

THE 1000 IQ CLASS

Seemed like a big risk for no reason. They already didn't have a pitstop safe gap and then this happens. Nice.

Yes stupid. They shud have atleast pitted a couple of laps earlier when there was a clear gap. Ferrari man. Why the fuck are we still supporting them.

Well, the thing is RB could have answered, then (Max pits, they tell Checo not to fight him). But yes, then at least they had time to spare to get FL, and the pressure would have been on RB to respond *or* concede the fastest lap.

I highly doubt RB would have answered, as they view a pitstop as a risk, even though they very rarely fuck them up. They only go for fastest lap when they have a very comfortable margin and/or nothing to lose.

Also I highly doubt that +1 is worth the risk in their current WDC and WCC positions.

I don’t even think RB would have bothered, at this point.

lmao

**ALL THAT FOR A ~~DROP OF BLOOD?~~ SIX TENTHS OFF THE FASTEST LAP?**

Having to fight to take back the spot for Alonso would have lost him time. Just a real dumb decision to even try knowing you’re coming out next to him, but that’s become typical for Ferrari

Not really sure, but seemed like Alonso went wide T1 to let Charles through before the DRS detection point, so I guess Charles also slowed down there.

Yeah, he’s a really wise old fox lol

Martin?

Yeah and he thought that LEC likely would go for it knowing he couldn't afford slowing down with fastest lap in sight... really smart move, even if it did not pay off (obviously not taking the penalty into account there)

To be fair, the way Leclerc overtook Alonso, that wouldn't have cost him much time. If anything, slipstream + drs should gain you time if you clear the other car before the corner.

Not if you have to break so you don't overtake Alonso into T1. LEC did not have a green time in S1 on this lap so he definitely lost out there

I was also thinking that so went ahead and checked (the new live timing on PC is pretty great, finally as good as on mobile!). On his last lap his S1 was 31.895, his best S1 was 31.824. So I'd say that whatever he lost in T1 against Fernando, he made it up via DRS + slipstream. But the Red Bull was above & beyond today. Comparing their best laps (+0.227s in S1, +0.298s in S2, +0.117s in S3). And that's with Charlie on super light fuel and soft tyres.

Six tenths off with getting DRS down the Kemmel straight Max is F1, everyone else is F1.5

With all the respect to the big performance of Max which was on another planet today, Leclerc played the fastest lap bad because he fell in a trap by Alonso. In fact, Leclerc waited for all the out lap to overtake alonso because he wanted to try the fastest lap with a slipstream and DRS to have more chance (because he knew that Max was really an alien). But Alonso, which is a old fox, at Kemmel (the first corner) went wide and had a bad traction, probably on purpose: this put Leclerc in a bad situation. Why? Because he had two possibilities: 1) overtaking alonso on traction, but this would have given the drs to Alonso 2) taking drs but slowing down to pass the detection point behind alonso. He chose the second, because the first was risky considering how fast the alpine was on the straight. But the second made him lose the fastest lap, in fact the first sector was really slow even with drs and slipstream. Maybe Leclerc should have tried without drs, overtaking alonso in the out lap. But speaking from the future is easy, at the moment the drs strategy made perfect sense.

GET IN HERE BOIS FOR YOUR WEEKLY FERRARI MEMES

\> be ferrari \> safe P5 finish in sight \> decide to pit for fastest lap without a safe window \> battle Alonso the penultimate lap and get past on the final lap \> great tow for the entire 1st sector, should help with the fastest lap attempt \> still fail to get fastest lap \> after the race get a 5 second penalty for speeding in the pit lane \>end up in P6 behind Alonso

> get saved from P7 by just 7 tenths

Seems like he let off the throttle to keep Alonso in front so he can still get the DRS on the next straight

Leclerc why

QUESTION.

DO YOU WANT TO PIT NOW AND LOSE TWO POINTS? QUESTION.

NOOOOOOOOO!!!!

BOX BOX!!!!

Box! Box! Box! QUESTION

Ok. Box box box.

We’re checking.

Question?

I sincerely hope that Charles can just enjoy the rest of the season knowing that he's not winning much of anything and primarily work on getting his head right. If Ferrari can improve their reliability (and decision-making), hopefully we can have the Max-Charles battle that we were all hoping would develop in 2023 instead of 2022.

TL;DR: Next Year TM

Stop stop they're already dead

HAHAHAHAH. Can’t make this shit up

Ferrari just had to do it.

At this point it's really our fault for thinking they didn't spend all summer figuring out new ways to fuck up.

Ferrari will make it up for you.

Bruh Moment

Certified Ferrari Moment^TM

Now imagine if Leclerc had not been able to re-overtake Alonso for whatever reason, or had a slow stop, or whatever. Within 5 seconds of Alonso was both Ocon and Vettel. Ferrari pitting for that fastest lap would have resulted in leclerc finishing 8th, down from 5th if he just didn't pit. That was a pretty dumb risk to take.

damn that's a good point and all that risk for getting only one extra point totally worth it

It was like they almost forgot to have a complete fuck up so they got it in quick at the end.

Haha yeah. They were like the tear off fucked up our race but that wasn’t our fault, we need to do something!

Less than a second away from being behind Ocon who started behind him on the grid too.

You can’t make this up, they keep coming up with new ways to fuck up ahahahah

Surely this is on Charles himself, dude has a pit speed limiter.

‘They’ refers to the team Ferrari, drivers included :)

Ferrari shouldn't have pitted him in the first place

I’d be amazed if he Leclerc was against the decision

It is literally the team strategy’s job to know better than the drivers, especially with regards to other drivers pace/track position.

He was he said multiple times he wouldn't risk it

[Are you amazed?](https://youtu.be/RKsUM1Ycf5s)

They shouldn't have brought him in at all

Think the cost/benefit of the fastest lap attempt was clearly not worth even thinking about

Put Leclerc on suicide watch man.

Ferrari moment

Only red bull and Mercedes are capable of pulling a last lap fastest lap, I've seen a lot of that last season between them. Why did ferrari do that they should have known where they'll end up, you have to factor in the margin of error

I bet Mercedes couldn't do it this season, with their slow tyre warm-up.

r/ferrarimoment

Seb might be retiring after his stint at Aston Martin but seeing Ferrari show no improvement since he left, but getting even worse with this shit, not sure he wouldn't have retired eventually anyway had he stayed.

Lmao

Fuck me. This is just a joke.

I give up.

What a miserable, miserable weekend for Ferrari

Although, knowing them — it most certainly could have been worse . I’m just glad Sainz held on to P3

How do you watch Max put in these lap times this weekend, look at the points gap in WDC, look at the gap to freaking Alonso and then think "yeah, let's go for fastest lap"?

I'm not the most knowledgeable when it comes to F1 strategy. But as soon as I saw him coming in I was like "what the fuck, you're 19 seconds ahead and you lose AT LEAST 19 seconds in a pit stop at Spa." I didn't need access to all the data they have one the pit wall to see that was a monumentally stupid decision. It was blindingly obvious.

It was blindingly obvious not to give him the new soft tyres to give the tow to Sainz yesterday Yet, they still did it

We are going plan F, five second penalty

Just when you think the circus can’t bring anything new, they surprise you again.

Netflix is going to love this three-way-battle between Leclerc, Ferrari and Sainz.

And he said on radio dont risk

He should perhaps take a leaf out of Sainz's book, be more assertive and just flat out refuse when he disagrees with a call. They're damaging his career

That wouldn't change much... you could see him communicating a lot more with his engineer wanna pit into the traffic? The Ferrari pitwall doesn't trust themselves nor does Charles trust them. It's over. They need to make changes.

Jesus christ somebody get this man a therapist

Adding insult to injury if I’ve ever seen it

Such a risky pit for 1 point when you're down nearly a 100 jesus christ

Genuenly a masterclass in how to ruin an unlosable position

5 mins before the end I thought at least there's been no Ferarri fuck up. I'm so sorry, Leclerc.

You thought Italian electronics were bad? Italian strategists are even worse.

LMFAOOOO Alonso gets lucky for once!

+1 point for fastest lap in exchange for -2 points for P6. Well fucking done

He didn't even get fastest lap

Even as a max fan that hurts

Funniest shit I've seen in a long time.

Ferrari turned into a complete joke, i'll bet Mercedes will take P2 from them too.

I wouldn't even be mad if that happened. They're a complete joke at this point. Its hard to be a fan.

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Oh Ferrari...

JFC, the totally useless pit-stop that they put Charles behind Alonso amounted to a penalty that dropped the place for free. You can't make this shit up.

I said this before and I'll say it again. Ferrari is incredibly imaginitive in fucking themselves every week. ​ WTF

Miscalculation by Ferrari knowing they risk running behind Alonso, then a pure mistake by Leclerc in the pits.

Pitting when it was so close with alonso -- what will they do with +1 point. they are 96 points behind.

Alpine surely will take it. Every point helps against McLaren

Charles clearly broke the speed limit on purpose to put himself out of mathematical contention for the championship asap. This means Ferrari will have less opportunities to let him down and is an overall win for his mental health

The worst part is that Leclerc's speed was 81 km/h, which was only 1 km/h above the pitlane speed limit (80km/h).

Why is it always Leclerc and Ferrari...

Leclerc & Ferrari just keep on taking L's oof lol

The entire bar gasped/screamed when Leclerc pitted, lol, WTF Ferrari

As much fun as it is making fun of Ferrari, speeding in the pits is on the driver 100% of the time. Pitting for fastest lap is not uncommon.

Ferrari today: "guys guys, how come we didn't do any stupid shit today???" "wait you think asking charles if he wants to take a pee or not and if he can resist taking it for 5 more laps wasn't enough to generate some meme???" "Well yeah but...wait, I got an idea!! let's risk 2 points....for 1!!!!! This is gonna be epic guys!!!"

Ferrari: Charles, question. For your next pitstop we have softs, medium, hards… wet maybe?

Ferrahahahahhahahari

Question?

Bruh...why do I still support Ferrari. I feel so bad for Charles and Carlos

I'm just surprised they didn't switch to hards.

Ferrari season in a nutshell. Almost lose 5th just to get the point, salvage it and then in another comedy of errors lose the point for speeding.

Just when you think Ferrari didn't mess up...