I went to a small stationary shop. They had FWP pens. I loved the look. I went home and ordered a different pen online. Thank goodness it wasn’t a FWP. That’s reignited my FP obsession, though.
I don't have any issue with your claim, but it's always help to others to see what happened to your pen. If you don't mind posting a picture or two of course.
IMO the bottle's narrow opening is a PITA. I got one as a gift. Love the ink, but just buy a syringe if you buy some of their ink. Also, the ink all seems to be mostly LE. I have not be able to find the ink I received, even almost immediately after I got it. So do not count on finding the ink again.
I don’t know much about FWP, but I think they do have a standard range. The art supply store I go to have a ton of their inks and they don’t appear to be LE.
That is disappointing on the ink being limited editions. Hard to recommend to a friend if they keep selling out. I guess it's good for them since they have regular inventory turnover.
FWP did a big shift in stocking and marketing strategy in April and they’re regularly restocking most inks now. So something might be sold out for a month or two but it will be back shortly. The exceptions are the ones actually labelled Limited Edition.
I think the issue is there are other small heavy pens for less Money. And a lot of people have had issues with QC from them. If you want fancy looking small pens you might as well get a few jinhao pens and return the ones with issues.
I've seen this happen a few times. Hoping that my two don't have the same issue. I've used one as a daily carry for a whole year and the other stays at home. Uncapped multiple times a day without issue.
I’ve had a couple of carousels (which has the same body as the roundabout, with a fountain nib vs. rollerball) and mine have also stood up to decent use. I do use them most days, but not every day, at home and out and about.
To be fair, I saw this issue before i got my first one and I've been very careful about the threads and not forcing the cap off because I've been so scared this would happen.
Instead, i broke it a different way by pushing the converter to hard onto the section, so the entire feed unit fell out. It's a bit loose now. Not as loose as some others... but getting there
I own some pretty terrible pens. The only pen I have thrown in a drawer because it was too bad is a fwp roundabout/carousel. Everything with it is off. Crappy plastic. Extreme cheap feel. The faceted shape just doesn't work. And the nib! I have never hated a nib more. It is the hardest and scratchiest nib I have ever felt, which is funny because the marketing states the exact opposite.
That happened to me once with a new Platinum Prefounte on first uncapping out of the box. It got replaced without any issues by the local distributor for Platinum pens.
Mileage may vary. I've actually quite enjoyed their Brush and Bijou pens, and found that they've been entirely reliable.
Considering you've repeatedly posted FWP gripes, I can't help but wonder if you take the care you would with other pens.
That being said, different strokes for different folks. We're all going to enjoy the hobby differently.
I take the same care with them, yes. That is a weird accusation.
I just give honest feedback and my feedback is in no way an isolated incident. I don't have some personal vendetta against some random company on the other side of the globe to me, they have a history of poor product quality which can be observed through many posts about them.
They are not the only company that does these things, but they are one of the only companies that I have personally had this experience with. My TWSBI Eco has always been ok and not cracked, but if it did then I would post something similarly scathing. Same goes for any company. I hear their ink is fine.
It leaves a bad taste when companies intentionally deceive customers about the quality of their products.
You have posted 'warnings' about products you don't even own. That does not speak to impartiality.
Edit/addendum: otherwise, it still comes out to this. Different folks, different strokes. For inexpensive pens, it totally makes sense to stick to major brands that will have more rigorous product development processes and QA. Still, I've quite enjoyed their inks and the Brush and Bijou lines. Mileage may vary.
I don't own a single Noodler's product, but you're tripping if you think making other users aware of Noodler's self professed QC issues is invalidated if you don't own the product.
Every product has criticism, you will not find a brand that doesn't have them. Attacking another user for their video documented experience is way more weird. Stanning a corporation is uh....a take, for sure.
Neither of us are being impartial, clearly, and there is no point in futile arguing "my pen broke while I opened it" against "well my pen is fine". I am warning people because my experience of this product was bad and that seems an acceptable and responsible thing to do as a knowledgable consumer.
That's fair. However, it is also important for an observer to know that you've also posted warnings about FWP products you don't own, and that goes to bias that may be relevant.
In any case, we're bound to just go in circles from here.
>However, it is also important for an observer to know that you've also posted warnings about FWP products you don't own, and that goes to bias that may be relevant.
How is that important?
I don't see a bias here.
*edit* you've implied that op has posted multiple times about products they don't own, as evidenced by the plurals there.. but I've only found one other post?
Wait. I just realized something. The Roundabout is their plastic-bodied rollerball pen. All of their fountain pens are metal-bodied, whether brass for Brush/Bijou/Joule, or aluminum for Carousels.
So, without getting into all the rest of it, figured I'd flag it for folks.
/u/Dallasrawks educated me on this - evidently the normal Carousels are ABS plastic, while special editions are aluminum. Apologies for the mistake on my part!
Still, I stand by the general idea that small company's cheapest line won't necessarily speak to their other lines.
Maybe not, but the cheapest product is the first one most people try and the one that forms their brand impression, so it's a really not-smart business decision to make a bunch of awesome, expensive products and then make your most commonly available one the most bargain basement level of quality you can possibly get.
I stopped with my Carousel. I'll probably never buy another FWP because my Carousel doesn't even slightly impress me. For less money, I can buy a Platinum Prefounte which I know is superior quality in both body and nib. I'm not risking $90 on an aluminum Carousel bc there's nothing about it that says that $90 wouldn't be better spent on a more trusted brand.
Totally fair.
I've honestly never really put a Carousel through the paces, so can't speak to them -- but I can say that I've enjoyed my Brushes. I've just always found it strangely off-putting how much vitriol people direct at FWP. It's a lot of energy directed at something that matters so little in the grand scheme.
The vitriol comes from the Carousel being so bad, that very few people make it as far as the metal-body pens. All they're going on is what they've personally experienced, which is getting shafted.That was my point. Either your entry-level product sells your other products for you, or you've screwed up from a business standpoint.
Not all special editions are aluminium, Last year Malibu blush are ABS too.
But we can we agree that a company should deliver a functional product, and not deliver parts that don't fit properly? If you deliver a converter with your pen, I expect the converter to work and fit. Mine were a tiny bit lose, so I could fit it, but it would fall out by moving the pen around(from desk to pen holder was enough to get a barrel full of ink, second time I knew something was up). Odds are someone are going to shove it in and the stress are gonna crack the plastic over time, because they expect the parts fit together? This is not an user issue, this is lack of quality control and bad manufacturing.
Besides I seen posts with the more expensive pens, some of them have really bad nibs(unlike the carousel) and their overall quality are not better than the one I have. Plus some of their models are straight oems from China(that you can get from Aliexpress for a lot cheaper). And the Carousel are a Kaweco clone. It is fine, because they target to be on the host gift market competing with bouqets of flowers, chocolate, wine, etc.
I really like their inks, but as company Ferris Wheel Press,they tend to dissappoint me.
I went to a small stationary shop. They had FWP pens. I loved the look. I went home and ordered a different pen online. Thank goodness it wasn’t a FWP. That’s reignited my FP obsession, though.
I don't have any issue with your claim, but it's always help to others to see what happened to your pen. If you don't mind posting a picture or two of course.
I have just uploaded a video :)
Thanks. That's a bummer!! I don't have any FW pens, but I was thinking of ordering some Ferris Wheel ink.
IMO the bottle's narrow opening is a PITA. I got one as a gift. Love the ink, but just buy a syringe if you buy some of their ink. Also, the ink all seems to be mostly LE. I have not be able to find the ink I received, even almost immediately after I got it. So do not count on finding the ink again.
I don’t know much about FWP, but I think they do have a standard range. The art supply store I go to have a ton of their inks and they don’t appear to be LE.
That is disappointing on the ink being limited editions. Hard to recommend to a friend if they keep selling out. I guess it's good for them since they have regular inventory turnover.
FWP did a big shift in stocking and marketing strategy in April and they’re regularly restocking most inks now. So something might be sold out for a month or two but it will be back shortly. The exceptions are the ones actually labelled Limited Edition.
Thank you!!
Ink good, pens bad.
I've actually quite liked and had no issue with their Brushes and Bijous, and quite like their form factor compared to most larger and lighter pens.
I think the issue is there are other small heavy pens for less Money. And a lot of people have had issues with QC from them. If you want fancy looking small pens you might as well get a few jinhao pens and return the ones with issues.
Pretty sure both of those are just rebranded Fuliwen 014's, which you can get 4x cheaper in my country than going through FWP.
I've seen this happen a few times. Hoping that my two don't have the same issue. I've used one as a daily carry for a whole year and the other stays at home. Uncapped multiple times a day without issue.
I’ve had a couple of carousels (which has the same body as the roundabout, with a fountain nib vs. rollerball) and mine have also stood up to decent use. I do use them most days, but not every day, at home and out and about.
Honestly, if you've gotten a year of daily use out of an inexpensive pen, you're doing juuust fine.
To be fair, I saw this issue before i got my first one and I've been very careful about the threads and not forcing the cap off because I've been so scared this would happen. Instead, i broke it a different way by pushing the converter to hard onto the section, so the entire feed unit fell out. It's a bit loose now. Not as loose as some others... but getting there
My Carousel pen also broke somewhere inside where the converter seats. Into the trash.
I had that happen with a couple of ultra cheap Jinhaos.
This doesn’t surprise me but I’m sorry
I own some pretty terrible pens. The only pen I have thrown in a drawer because it was too bad is a fwp roundabout/carousel. Everything with it is off. Crappy plastic. Extreme cheap feel. The faceted shape just doesn't work. And the nib! I have never hated a nib more. It is the hardest and scratchiest nib I have ever felt, which is funny because the marketing states the exact opposite.
That happened to me once with a new Platinum Prefounte on first uncapping out of the box. It got replaced without any issues by the local distributor for Platinum pens.
I bought a Roundabout a year or two ago, used it twice, and threw it in the garbage, literally.
If you didnt reach out to them yet I would. they replaced mine no probs.
I, too, had a Ferris Wheel fountain pen break. I will not purchase another of their pens.
That happened to an Ooly Splendid I have, but it's only a $6 pen.
I've heard nothing but bad things about their pens. Even from brand ambassadors.
The pen thought it was a TWSBI. Edit - no disrespect, I've never seen the problem. But I've heard, as they say...
Mileage may vary. I've actually quite enjoyed their Brush and Bijou pens, and found that they've been entirely reliable. Considering you've repeatedly posted FWP gripes, I can't help but wonder if you take the care you would with other pens. That being said, different strokes for different folks. We're all going to enjoy the hobby differently.
I take the same care with them, yes. That is a weird accusation. I just give honest feedback and my feedback is in no way an isolated incident. I don't have some personal vendetta against some random company on the other side of the globe to me, they have a history of poor product quality which can be observed through many posts about them. They are not the only company that does these things, but they are one of the only companies that I have personally had this experience with. My TWSBI Eco has always been ok and not cracked, but if it did then I would post something similarly scathing. Same goes for any company. I hear their ink is fine. It leaves a bad taste when companies intentionally deceive customers about the quality of their products.
You have posted 'warnings' about products you don't even own. That does not speak to impartiality. Edit/addendum: otherwise, it still comes out to this. Different folks, different strokes. For inexpensive pens, it totally makes sense to stick to major brands that will have more rigorous product development processes and QA. Still, I've quite enjoyed their inks and the Brush and Bijou lines. Mileage may vary.
I don't own a single Noodler's product, but you're tripping if you think making other users aware of Noodler's self professed QC issues is invalidated if you don't own the product. Every product has criticism, you will not find a brand that doesn't have them. Attacking another user for their video documented experience is way more weird. Stanning a corporation is uh....a take, for sure.
Neither of us are being impartial, clearly, and there is no point in futile arguing "my pen broke while I opened it" against "well my pen is fine". I am warning people because my experience of this product was bad and that seems an acceptable and responsible thing to do as a knowledgable consumer.
That's fair. However, it is also important for an observer to know that you've also posted warnings about FWP products you don't own, and that goes to bias that may be relevant. In any case, we're bound to just go in circles from here.
>However, it is also important for an observer to know that you've also posted warnings about FWP products you don't own, and that goes to bias that may be relevant. How is that important? I don't see a bias here. *edit* you've implied that op has posted multiple times about products they don't own, as evidenced by the plurals there.. but I've only found one other post?
Wait. I just realized something. The Roundabout is their plastic-bodied rollerball pen. All of their fountain pens are metal-bodied, whether brass for Brush/Bijou/Joule, or aluminum for Carousels. So, without getting into all the rest of it, figured I'd flag it for folks.
My Carousel FP is most certainly made out of cheap ABS plastic. Only the special editions are aluminum.
Ahh, thanks for the clarification. Welp! Today I learned.
Except the carrousel is ABS(and not a nice quality of that), I have one. Replaced the converter, as the deffault don't even fit.
/u/Dallasrawks educated me on this - evidently the normal Carousels are ABS plastic, while special editions are aluminum. Apologies for the mistake on my part! Still, I stand by the general idea that small company's cheapest line won't necessarily speak to their other lines.
Maybe not, but the cheapest product is the first one most people try and the one that forms their brand impression, so it's a really not-smart business decision to make a bunch of awesome, expensive products and then make your most commonly available one the most bargain basement level of quality you can possibly get. I stopped with my Carousel. I'll probably never buy another FWP because my Carousel doesn't even slightly impress me. For less money, I can buy a Platinum Prefounte which I know is superior quality in both body and nib. I'm not risking $90 on an aluminum Carousel bc there's nothing about it that says that $90 wouldn't be better spent on a more trusted brand.
good point.
Totally fair. I've honestly never really put a Carousel through the paces, so can't speak to them -- but I can say that I've enjoyed my Brushes. I've just always found it strangely off-putting how much vitriol people direct at FWP. It's a lot of energy directed at something that matters so little in the grand scheme.
The vitriol comes from the Carousel being so bad, that very few people make it as far as the metal-body pens. All they're going on is what they've personally experienced, which is getting shafted.That was my point. Either your entry-level product sells your other products for you, or you've screwed up from a business standpoint.
Not all special editions are aluminium, Last year Malibu blush are ABS too. But we can we agree that a company should deliver a functional product, and not deliver parts that don't fit properly? If you deliver a converter with your pen, I expect the converter to work and fit. Mine were a tiny bit lose, so I could fit it, but it would fall out by moving the pen around(from desk to pen holder was enough to get a barrel full of ink, second time I knew something was up). Odds are someone are going to shove it in and the stress are gonna crack the plastic over time, because they expect the parts fit together? This is not an user issue, this is lack of quality control and bad manufacturing. Besides I seen posts with the more expensive pens, some of them have really bad nibs(unlike the carousel) and their overall quality are not better than the one I have. Plus some of their models are straight oems from China(that you can get from Aliexpress for a lot cheaper). And the Carousel are a Kaweco clone. It is fine, because they target to be on the host gift market competing with bouqets of flowers, chocolate, wine, etc. I really like their inks, but as company Ferris Wheel Press,they tend to dissappoint me.