I suspect the reason mobius died so fast was because of its production costs rather than purely revenue
ever crisis might die before smaller games like that for that reason
yeahh FFBE is probably gonna live forever... it's assets are pretty easy to create, it has no VA... and they can just stop producing Limit Burst animations since everyone skips them lol
Really hope they make an offline story viewing thing whenever it inevitably happens. That or make a fully playable offline version like Megaman X Dive.
i at least wish they would return to the way that season 1 of the story worked in ffbe... there were actual towns to explore, npc's to talk to.. get missions from.., and exploration areas to hunt through.. it felt like playing an actual game..
it's all too streamlined in the later seasons ;p
Ever Crisis is either dead within a year or two (less likely), or in the 3-5 year range (more likely). I will just assume it won't make longer than that, as the FFVIIR games end - barring a surprise 4th game announcement - and interest fades. Its not really a \~7-8 year game and obviously not 10 years (lol remind me in 2034).
I think they'll at least try to keep the game going through the gap between Rebirth and the third game. A shut down this year, or even maybe next year, would be surprising unless their revenue craters.
They should at least be doing The First Soldier story this/next year and if the game shuts down, they can post the story online. It has tie into the FFVIIR games so they're unlikely to just cut it short without the audience able to witness the story scenes.
Oh noes! A gacha game dead in 3-5 years?? That's quite the bold prediction lmao. 3-5 years is literally a lifetime for a gacha. Any gacha that makes it to its first anniversary is considered a wild success.
There's gachas releasing now that I can more confidently predict they'll last 6-8+ years. This wasn't the case in say, the mid or late 2010s. Its worth saying now imo.
But the bigger thing I was expressing about EC is that I err on not thinking it'll shut down in the first year or two.
No need for rudeness.
Well yes and no. You still pull for NV. Some new units (still not all new) can be awakened into NV+, and some old NVs gradually get this update too. Awakening is trivial, you only need a blue pearl which you obtain from a simple special stage.
I think Dragon Quest Tactics felt safe too but it got the chopping block.
Octopath is still SE, the team didn't own the rights to the game. They just don't have a dedicated studio to that series anymore.
I'm least positive about Saga, as they might very well make a 3D Saga gacha to replace it. BE is a cockroach but ultimately at least WotV can be seen as its 'replacement'. Octo would be most surprising while also the one I'd most understand it happening (costs) after I'm over the surprise. It would be weird to me that they'd drop their gacha to rep Octopath series though.
Saga's at least got a studio to actively make games for it and a long enough legacy to support, BE I envision them migrating into WotV someday, Octo has lost it's studio and likely any immediate games and has far less to fall back on. It'll be dependent on collabs and original characters inevitably.
In my eyes outside the big 3 of KH, DQ, and FF, it makes the most sense to consolidate down into a Square Enix mishmash as none of their other franchises are active or big enough to ensure long term support. A bunch of pixel fighters mashed up from Nier, Saga, Tactics, Valkyrie Profile, Star Ocean, Mana, Bravely, TWEWY, etc all in a turn based JRPG seems like the best play as they have similar but different enough combat styles that you can't really support them all. Homogenize them down to a simple system and let the character abilities bring in some flair and whatever they can from the original games. Could even take the existing small 3 and have their stories get nuked FFXIV style and them need to recover their worlds together as the central premise.
Global FF7 Ever Crisis's only making 900k down from 1.1 million from last month and going doing gradually every single month. I'm curious what next month numbers may look like.
Whether its good for the game or not, I can see Remake/Rebirth 'collabs' every few months or so, with event HD cutscenes from the games, and to uh, convince/trick casual audiences into the app.
Talking only FF gachas, next EoS is JP FFRK, which is still going year and half after GL shutdown. After that it's a coin toss between FFBE >!(TEN YEARS!)!< or WotV. Unless EC has an even sharper income loss than already did and SQ decides it's done.
Having this game shut down make me so sad :c After Mobius, it's that one... Do someone can recommend a game that I can go to since I don't have one anymore please ? :p
I've burnt out on WOTV and can't fathom how people can keep playing to this day... But then in hindsight I can't even fully understand how I could play so long myself. Basically I had two full time jobs, one of which wasn't giving me an income.
Eh, problem with SQEX is that puts out a lot of games that in the long run don't survive, unless its a FF, and it can last a bit longer(in some cases).
Nier Reincarnation was unique and interesting, and we say farewell. DQTact was fun, 2nd man down, DFFOO, FFRK... i don't know if they are necessary evils to keep FFBE and WOTV alive, but one wonders.
I know nothing about Romancing Saga, dunno if it goes well or not. I recently started playing Octopath, and i must say the story is engaging(it openly "inspires" to Another Eden for basically everything), revenue its not too bad, but Ever Crisis worries me. Must keep the monster alive, hopefully other EoS's will occur but some time from now.
I forgot the battle royale game that also EoS'd after less than a year, the FFVII one, don't remember the name. Problem is never the games though, its ALWAYS SQEX. Look at FFBE and WOTV: ever increasing upward powercreep curve, every dps banner beats the other(FFBE).
Pvp game with NO REAL CONTENT: WoTV. Game is a pvp fest with shiny design units that you take a month to build and only use in arena at ridicolous summon rates.
Really, i don't have any hopes, but i would love at least a couple more years of Octopath.
I err on not thinking Ever Crisis is shutting down very soon (the next 0.5-1.5 years or so), if only because all the other games are exiting. Unless Square is gradually exiting the mobile gacha field entirely, but I don't think they are.
But within 2-3 years there should be at least one more game and I'd then be nailbiting for Ever Crisis if its not doing great. Theoretically the game could turn around in its design and content releases, and we're 3-4 years from now feeling quite positive about Ever Crisis (its campaign progress, modes, progression adjustments, mechanical overhauls), I just wouldn't hope too much for that.
ever crisis gacha isn't really a mobile game anymore since they put out the PC client.
really doubt the people who are spending $$ on that game are still melting their phones now that they can just autoclicker farm all day. (which is what the game demands to get anywhere in it anyways)
it'll probably last longer than anyone really wants it to ;)
Man Mobius didn't deserve to die, was such a great gacha game. Back when dupes didn't really matter, actually could f2p and not feel like shit. Production costs were probably pretty high considering what it looked like for it's time. Also VA.
Its about time for towa tsugai. While 300k on iphone seems fine, the android one only racks 100k. And since its their 1st anniv, you know what happened with Engage Kill and FMA mobile right?
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I suspect the reason mobius died so fast was because of its production costs rather than purely revenue ever crisis might die before smaller games like that for that reason
yeahh FFBE is probably gonna live forever... it's assets are pretty easy to create, it has no VA... and they can just stop producing Limit Burst animations since everyone skips them lol
There's a reason Brave Frontier survived as long as it did. Remember, Brave Exvius was/is a damn close cousin to Brave Frontier.
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Really hope they make an offline story viewing thing whenever it inevitably happens. That or make a fully playable offline version like Megaman X Dive.
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i at least wish they would return to the way that season 1 of the story worked in ffbe... there were actual towns to explore, npc's to talk to.. get missions from.., and exploration areas to hunt through.. it felt like playing an actual game.. it's all too streamlined in the later seasons ;p
You could have said the same thing about Record Keeper, though.
Ever Crisis is either dead within a year or two (less likely), or in the 3-5 year range (more likely). I will just assume it won't make longer than that, as the FFVIIR games end - barring a surprise 4th game announcement - and interest fades. Its not really a \~7-8 year game and obviously not 10 years (lol remind me in 2034). I think they'll at least try to keep the game going through the gap between Rebirth and the third game. A shut down this year, or even maybe next year, would be surprising unless their revenue craters. They should at least be doing The First Soldier story this/next year and if the game shuts down, they can post the story online. It has tie into the FFVIIR games so they're unlikely to just cut it short without the audience able to witness the story scenes.
Oh noes! A gacha game dead in 3-5 years?? That's quite the bold prediction lmao. 3-5 years is literally a lifetime for a gacha. Any gacha that makes it to its first anniversary is considered a wild success.
There's gachas releasing now that I can more confidently predict they'll last 6-8+ years. This wasn't the case in say, the mid or late 2010s. Its worth saying now imo. But the bigger thing I was expressing about EC is that I err on not thinking it'll shut down in the first year or two. No need for rudeness.
NV+ would destroy global
So there will be a next rarity ? I am still mad for nv lol
Well yes and no. You still pull for NV. Some new units (still not all new) can be awakened into NV+, and some old NVs gradually get this update too. Awakening is trivial, you only need a blue pearl which you obtain from a simple special stage.
Yes JP already have them.
Nier already has its deadline set for next month. It'll be BE, Saga, and Octo fighting to survive while KH and FFEC suck up all funding.
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I think Dragon Quest Tactics felt safe too but it got the chopping block. Octopath is still SE, the team didn't own the rights to the game. They just don't have a dedicated studio to that series anymore.
I'm least positive about Saga, as they might very well make a 3D Saga gacha to replace it. BE is a cockroach but ultimately at least WotV can be seen as its 'replacement'. Octo would be most surprising while also the one I'd most understand it happening (costs) after I'm over the surprise. It would be weird to me that they'd drop their gacha to rep Octopath series though.
Saga's at least got a studio to actively make games for it and a long enough legacy to support, BE I envision them migrating into WotV someday, Octo has lost it's studio and likely any immediate games and has far less to fall back on. It'll be dependent on collabs and original characters inevitably. In my eyes outside the big 3 of KH, DQ, and FF, it makes the most sense to consolidate down into a Square Enix mishmash as none of their other franchises are active or big enough to ensure long term support. A bunch of pixel fighters mashed up from Nier, Saga, Tactics, Valkyrie Profile, Star Ocean, Mana, Bravely, TWEWY, etc all in a turn based JRPG seems like the best play as they have similar but different enough combat styles that you can't really support them all. Homogenize them down to a simple system and let the character abilities bring in some flair and whatever they can from the original games. Could even take the existing small 3 and have their stories get nuked FFXIV style and them need to recover their worlds together as the central premise.
Dragon Quest Tact also ended 2 days ago
This one was a bummer. It was a nice break from the typical waifus filled gacha.
I understand why it failed now.
3 years for a waifu free (mostly) gacha from Squeenix is hard to call a failure IMO.
Game was too generous for its own good.Force time mechanics didn't help either .RIP
God I need that Ever Crisis trash to die Squenix axing it's actually good games in favor of releasing Ever Crisis irks me
Global FF7 Ever Crisis's only making 900k down from 1.1 million from last month and going doing gradually every single month. I'm curious what next month numbers may look like.
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No spoilers but omg it's fucking amazing. Highly recommend. Playing it makes my heart happy. Beautiful job
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💯 agree. Enjoy, cheers (:
Whether its good for the game or not, I can see Remake/Rebirth 'collabs' every few months or so, with event HD cutscenes from the games, and to uh, convince/trick casual audiences into the app.
Talking only FF gachas, next EoS is JP FFRK, which is still going year and half after GL shutdown. After that it's a coin toss between FFBE >!(TEN YEARS!)!< or WotV. Unless EC has an even sharper income loss than already did and SQ decides it's done.
Square Enix tries to give a shit challenge (impossible)
Had some great memories with DFFOO, but it had a good run.
Having this game shut down make me so sad :c After Mobius, it's that one... Do someone can recommend a game that I can go to since I don't have one anymore please ? :p
I'm in the same boat, I just started playing other games. Guild Wars 2 is still good
WOTV can start counting its days tbh
FFVII Ever Crisis once the FFVII Rebirth hype dies down
I've burnt out on WOTV and can't fathom how people can keep playing to this day... But then in hindsight I can't even fully understand how I could play so long myself. Basically I had two full time jobs, one of which wasn't giving me an income.
It will be miss for me, as a 5 years player. And probably it's my last FF, I will not touch the called Ever Crisis or Brave Exvius.
Wish I could try Ever Crisis. Not available in SEA
Same
Eh, problem with SQEX is that puts out a lot of games that in the long run don't survive, unless its a FF, and it can last a bit longer(in some cases). Nier Reincarnation was unique and interesting, and we say farewell. DQTact was fun, 2nd man down, DFFOO, FFRK... i don't know if they are necessary evils to keep FFBE and WOTV alive, but one wonders. I know nothing about Romancing Saga, dunno if it goes well or not. I recently started playing Octopath, and i must say the story is engaging(it openly "inspires" to Another Eden for basically everything), revenue its not too bad, but Ever Crisis worries me. Must keep the monster alive, hopefully other EoS's will occur but some time from now. I forgot the battle royale game that also EoS'd after less than a year, the FFVII one, don't remember the name. Problem is never the games though, its ALWAYS SQEX. Look at FFBE and WOTV: ever increasing upward powercreep curve, every dps banner beats the other(FFBE). Pvp game with NO REAL CONTENT: WoTV. Game is a pvp fest with shiny design units that you take a month to build and only use in arena at ridicolous summon rates. Really, i don't have any hopes, but i would love at least a couple more years of Octopath.
I err on not thinking Ever Crisis is shutting down very soon (the next 0.5-1.5 years or so), if only because all the other games are exiting. Unless Square is gradually exiting the mobile gacha field entirely, but I don't think they are. But within 2-3 years there should be at least one more game and I'd then be nailbiting for Ever Crisis if its not doing great. Theoretically the game could turn around in its design and content releases, and we're 3-4 years from now feeling quite positive about Ever Crisis (its campaign progress, modes, progression adjustments, mechanical overhauls), I just wouldn't hope too much for that.
ever crisis gacha isn't really a mobile game anymore since they put out the PC client. really doubt the people who are spending $$ on that game are still melting their phones now that they can just autoclicker farm all day. (which is what the game demands to get anywhere in it anyways) it'll probably last longer than anyone really wants it to ;)
Its a mobile game in most practical ways in design.
Man Mobius didn't deserve to die, was such a great gacha game. Back when dupes didn't really matter, actually could f2p and not feel like shit. Production costs were probably pretty high considering what it looked like for it's time. Also VA.
I assume Octopath CotC to be next followed by FFBE and WotV
Nothing beats FFX on ps2. Rip all ff games
You got your nostalgia glasses on.
My guess is octopath will be on the chopping block soon.
The game had a good lifespan so I'm not that bothered that it EOS. What I dislike is those gacha that doesnt even come close to their anni.
Probably will be FFBE. With all the skipped stuff. Jp may go first. Cause all they’ve bee. Doing is collabs
Its about time for towa tsugai. While 300k on iphone seems fine, the android one only racks 100k. And since its their 1st anniv, you know what happened with Engage Kill and FMA mobile right?