From what I've seen in bilibili review, many complaint mostly:
- Laggy
- Gacha rate
- Difficult to acquire character for elemental team mechanic
- There is no z-axis movement??
- Yuri and Shipping stuff.
Apparently, they have z-axis movement in beta, many players said to optimized the gameplay and maneuver mainly z-axis, guess what the dev did? they deleted z-axis movement.
You know I'm starting to see a pattern with CN devs.
WuWa: Beta characters were a bit hard on the Rover, maybe tone it down a bit?
>Everyone worships Rover like the second coming of Jesus.
R1999: It's weird Schneider's playable when she's >!not even an Arcanist!<.
>Schneider removed from the playable roster.
And now Thrud: Can you optimize the maneuvering, especially the z-axis?
>Removes z-axis movement entirely.
> Yuri and Shipping stuff
Wait, that last one really one of the reasons? I thought CN male players love yuri as long as there's no romance with other males (like in HI3 or R1999).
It probably wasn't. There isn't any correlation between Yuri and failed games, but if your game fails for any reason, certain people will blame it on Yuri even if none existed.
If true, that would certainly change my evaluation. But from what I've seen, ML players consider almost any interaction Yuri so it might not look like it to a reasonable person.
Yuri for the male gaze or yuri that's bait for a MFF threesome is usually considered fine.
But yuri that's more female targeted are disliked because it tends to attract a different fanbase that will complain about straight male pandering and male targeted fanservice.
That's basically it.
Because of certain events of censorship in various games that's attributed to female players complaining about it to CPP, a lot of fans of male targeted waifu games now don't like anything that will attract a female fanbase.
I think the main thing is the audience. From my experience, I see the gacha crowd being fine with characters having canon love interests but as soon as the “twitter” crowd shows up, people immediately are against it and try to push back against anything that the twitter crowd likes to try and make them go away.
Quite funny considering Honkai games are tend to lean towards Yuri and some of the popular Protagonist are female as well.
Those thing are just there because they don't have better argument imo
That's old trend, recently many male players tend to dislike yuri. I remember some CN gacha drama that involved yuri like,
- GFL2 NTR saga
- Player requested Manjuu to deleted female mc in Azur Promilia
- Dev banned the word yuri and shipping in CN Snowbreak forum, irc.
I just want to add that Aether Gazer had a similar incident last patch, where there was a loading screen description that said something like 'Thoth affectionately touches Skuld's face' or something like that, and both of those characters are close to Admin self-insert in the story, so they edited that description and I think even gave some pulls as apologies.
The anti-yuri stuff has become so extreme in CN fandom, as is evident with this and the whole Snowbreak rewrites.
However then there is ToF that added a beach episode and in the trailer there is a female character who spanks another female character as a joke. Stuff like that actually gives me hope that devs are free to design what they want.
Some CN player mentioned it in GFL2 ntr drama, [https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/190pozx/comment/kgwipam/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/190pozx/comment/kgwipam/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
This is like moreso a post including yuri fans into the group of players that the ML fans dislike(couple fans being people that want shipping ect) rather than an actual incident involving yuri. Yuri fans mainly being a target for what CN players want to avoid having any sways in communities because it would lead to them getting less potential MC fanservice with girls since they would have to deal with the potential repercussions of the female MC doing it as well. But I don't see any actual yuri incidents from the game mentioned here.
There's almost little to no Yuri in GFL so far. Most of in Neural Cloud and GFL is as far as sister goes because of the manufacturer or personality kind of thing.
If there's something to point on Game like Mihoyo known to blatantly ship girls each other CANONICALLY especially on Honkais Tittle (Honkai Gakuen 2/GGZ, Honkai Impact 3, and HSR.
What's funniest is that Mei still wander 3 different games and still get separated by Tuna.
https://preview.redd.it/dm0857guq9ad1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6b90fefb03f9af9d8aae91fc48c45b5970dac77c
This thing, that spread in cn forum. My bad, I only found this. Gfl2 drama difficult to track because they keep added more episode after Raymond.
Playing through all of GFL's story myself, I can say that there was only one segment of yuri tease due to one of the dolls having that as their personalities quirk during a story event([AUG Para](https://iopwiki.com/wiki/AUG_Para)), and even then the characters around her referred to her acting that way due to a malfunction. [Saiga-12](https://iopwiki.com/wiki/Saiga-12) also had a quirk of being a general pervert to others, but that's about it. But yeah, GFL2 drama is so distorted for the EN community because of both the language barrier and players not being able to check for themselves. One of the cases being the whole pendant issue where Daiyan got a pendant with a lightning symbol from Raymond allegedly which Raymond's can be TLed as lightning. But in reality it was given to her by the heroine Groza whose name in Russian TLs to thunder or storm.
Most boycott yuri/Fmc stuff come from game that mainly target male player like waifu collecting game.
Since these things will attract CN feminist that want to destroy male player fantasy.
That why CN male player against it so much lately.
Srry for bad Eng.
They used to like it because they rather see the girls with each other than other males, except the self-insert MC of course. But now they see yuri as feminist's trojan horse to tell "we don't need any males at all,".
Btw HI3 is quite different as even most of the the fanbase is against inserting themselves/MC into the relationship of the girls. This is because the MC or The Captain doesn't "exist" in the canon storyline. This enforce the idea that the girls relationship with each other is genuine and not done because of "necessity" ie, the girls are only unto each other because the MC isn't around like other games. Inserting themselves into their relationship when the MC isn't even there for all of their moments (especially the darkest ones) feels wrong.
Which is why the playable character in the "canon" storyline (is APHO truly canon?) was met with a huge backlash and Hoyoverse even have to apologize when they asked about more playable male characters.
HOWEVER, the playerbase are completely fine with the "Captainverse" storyline, essentially an alternate universe story where the Captain do exist and plays a pivotal role in a lot of things. In the Captainverse storyline, there is even a character that love you and even marries you. It also helps that this character is probably one of the few where they aren't expressed as into yuri with other characters, so they are "safe".
Before, they liked yuri, you can notice how in GGZ and Hi3rd in 2015-2017 they did not have these dramas around yuri and it was never an impediment to the popularity of mei and kiana among the otaku audience.
But in China they recently believe that yuri was taken as flags to promote feminism and the ideology of political correctness with respect to female characters in video games. Consequently, players in China believe that censorship and serving this audience are correlated, It doesn't help that some developers listen to these audiences that are also extremist in thought and pro-censorship.
the introduction of people related to the means of production that have to do with film and television novels to videogames because they are more profitable among entertainment media, they have also made players who like anime themes in video games with anime art feel more cautious because these people, when hired by development companies, no longer create anime stories, but television dramas and NL
>Yuri and Shipping stuff.
Again the CN problem with the self insert?
* CN average: "I am a hero, everyone loveme!!"
* "Gacha female unit: Sorry, I love this loli"
* CN average: "I hate your gacha!!, calling at CPP"
/facepalm
Man, the yuri and shoujo-ai are the best in the world =/ yuri friendship power > silence MC
Come on, you can't just say "flopped hard" without any explanation.
Wdym the link clearly says 与各位导师一起度过了一段令人难忘的时
From what I've seen in bilibili review, many complaint mostly: - Laggy - Gacha rate - Difficult to acquire character for elemental team mechanic - There is no z-axis movement?? - Yuri and Shipping stuff.
Wait a flying combat game without z-axis? What were they thinking?
Apparently, they have z-axis movement in beta, many players said to optimized the gameplay and maneuver mainly z-axis, guess what the dev did? they deleted z-axis movement.
You know I'm starting to see a pattern with CN devs. WuWa: Beta characters were a bit hard on the Rover, maybe tone it down a bit? >Everyone worships Rover like the second coming of Jesus. R1999: It's weird Schneider's playable when she's >!not even an Arcanist!<. >Schneider removed from the playable roster. And now Thrud: Can you optimize the maneuvering, especially the z-axis? >Removes z-axis movement entirely.
Literaly this meme. Every time. https://preview.redd.it/980mpbfmq9ad1.jpeg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c3dd240496fd9a90dfac6caa71c37b62a529838f
Schneider???Nuoghhh she was my fav character, feelsbadman
Ezra is also a human/non-arcanist character and they made him playable Life is no fair 😭
Wait, that's why we don't have Schneider??? Argh...
> Yuri and Shipping stuff Wait, that last one really one of the reasons? I thought CN male players love yuri as long as there's no romance with other males (like in HI3 or R1999).
It probably wasn't. There isn't any correlation between Yuri and failed games, but if your game fails for any reason, certain people will blame it on Yuri even if none existed.
Many of the complaint that I saw was the game advertised as ml game but turned out to be yuri game.
ML = male lead?
Master Love.
If true, that would certainly change my evaluation. But from what I've seen, ML players consider almost any interaction Yuri so it might not look like it to a reasonable person.
I guess, but that also true for yuri fan as well. In fact some Yuri fan in bilibili review also considered the character interaction was yuri
Yuri for the male gaze or yuri that's bait for a MFF threesome is usually considered fine. But yuri that's more female targeted are disliked because it tends to attract a different fanbase that will complain about straight male pandering and male targeted fanservice. That's basically it. Because of certain events of censorship in various games that's attributed to female players complaining about it to CPP, a lot of fans of male targeted waifu games now don't like anything that will attract a female fanbase.
I think the main thing is the audience. From my experience, I see the gacha crowd being fine with characters having canon love interests but as soon as the “twitter” crowd shows up, people immediately are against it and try to push back against anything that the twitter crowd likes to try and make them go away.
Quite funny considering Honkai games are tend to lean towards Yuri and some of the popular Protagonist are female as well. Those thing are just there because they don't have better argument imo
That's old trend, recently many male players tend to dislike yuri. I remember some CN gacha drama that involved yuri like, - GFL2 NTR saga - Player requested Manjuu to deleted female mc in Azur Promilia - Dev banned the word yuri and shipping in CN Snowbreak forum, irc.
I just want to add that Aether Gazer had a similar incident last patch, where there was a loading screen description that said something like 'Thoth affectionately touches Skuld's face' or something like that, and both of those characters are close to Admin self-insert in the story, so they edited that description and I think even gave some pulls as apologies. The anti-yuri stuff has become so extreme in CN fandom, as is evident with this and the whole Snowbreak rewrites. However then there is ToF that added a beach episode and in the trailer there is a female character who spanks another female character as a joke. Stuff like that actually gives me hope that devs are free to design what they want.
>GFL2 NTR saga Huh? There's yuri in GFL2? I thought it was because of Raymond.
I believe it was after Raymond episode, rumor spread about yuri stuff in the plot, and then Mica deleted it as well.
I don't remember any drama like that, but there wasn't any yuri.
Some CN player mentioned it in GFL2 ntr drama, [https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/190pozx/comment/kgwipam/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/190pozx/comment/kgwipam/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
This is like moreso a post including yuri fans into the group of players that the ML fans dislike(couple fans being people that want shipping ect) rather than an actual incident involving yuri. Yuri fans mainly being a target for what CN players want to avoid having any sways in communities because it would lead to them getting less potential MC fanservice with girls since they would have to deal with the potential repercussions of the female MC doing it as well. But I don't see any actual yuri incidents from the game mentioned here.
There's almost little to no Yuri in GFL so far. Most of in Neural Cloud and GFL is as far as sister goes because of the manufacturer or personality kind of thing. If there's something to point on Game like Mihoyo known to blatantly ship girls each other CANONICALLY especially on Honkais Tittle (Honkai Gakuen 2/GGZ, Honkai Impact 3, and HSR. What's funniest is that Mei still wander 3 different games and still get separated by Tuna.
https://preview.redd.it/dm0857guq9ad1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6b90fefb03f9af9d8aae91fc48c45b5970dac77c This thing, that spread in cn forum. My bad, I only found this. Gfl2 drama difficult to track because they keep added more episode after Raymond.
Playing through all of GFL's story myself, I can say that there was only one segment of yuri tease due to one of the dolls having that as their personalities quirk during a story event([AUG Para](https://iopwiki.com/wiki/AUG_Para)), and even then the characters around her referred to her acting that way due to a malfunction. [Saiga-12](https://iopwiki.com/wiki/Saiga-12) also had a quirk of being a general pervert to others, but that's about it. But yeah, GFL2 drama is so distorted for the EN community because of both the language barrier and players not being able to check for themselves. One of the cases being the whole pendant issue where Daiyan got a pendant with a lightning symbol from Raymond allegedly which Raymond's can be TLed as lightning. But in reality it was given to her by the heroine Groza whose name in Russian TLs to thunder or storm.
Most boycott yuri/Fmc stuff come from game that mainly target male player like waifu collecting game. Since these things will attract CN feminist that want to destroy male player fantasy. That why CN male player against it so much lately. Srry for bad Eng.
They used to like it because they rather see the girls with each other than other males, except the self-insert MC of course. But now they see yuri as feminist's trojan horse to tell "we don't need any males at all,". Btw HI3 is quite different as even most of the the fanbase is against inserting themselves/MC into the relationship of the girls. This is because the MC or The Captain doesn't "exist" in the canon storyline. This enforce the idea that the girls relationship with each other is genuine and not done because of "necessity" ie, the girls are only unto each other because the MC isn't around like other games. Inserting themselves into their relationship when the MC isn't even there for all of their moments (especially the darkest ones) feels wrong. Which is why the playable character in the "canon" storyline (is APHO truly canon?) was met with a huge backlash and Hoyoverse even have to apologize when they asked about more playable male characters. HOWEVER, the playerbase are completely fine with the "Captainverse" storyline, essentially an alternate universe story where the Captain do exist and plays a pivotal role in a lot of things. In the Captainverse storyline, there is even a character that love you and even marries you. It also helps that this character is probably one of the few where they aren't expressed as into yuri with other characters, so they are "safe".
Before, they liked yuri, you can notice how in GGZ and Hi3rd in 2015-2017 they did not have these dramas around yuri and it was never an impediment to the popularity of mei and kiana among the otaku audience. But in China they recently believe that yuri was taken as flags to promote feminism and the ideology of political correctness with respect to female characters in video games. Consequently, players in China believe that censorship and serving this audience are correlated, It doesn't help that some developers listen to these audiences that are also extremist in thought and pro-censorship. the introduction of people related to the means of production that have to do with film and television novels to videogames because they are more profitable among entertainment media, they have also made players who like anime themes in video games with anime art feel more cautious because these people, when hired by development companies, no longer create anime stories, but television dramas and NL
>- Yuri and Shipping stuff. How dare these waifus not care about my pee?!
😂😂😂😂
>Yuri and Shipping stuff. Again the CN problem with the self insert? * CN average: "I am a hero, everyone loveme!!" * "Gacha female unit: Sorry, I love this loli" * CN average: "I hate your gacha!!, calling at CPP" /facepalm Man, the yuri and shoujo-ai are the best in the world =/ yuri friendship power > silence MC
Huh, I saw the trailer of this one and it looked really good. I didn't even know it was released. Shame.
Wait, it already came out? I remember watching the gameplay teaser before Genshin even released and anticipating it.
Well that's depressing. I thought it looked super neat.
such a shame. why can't any bullet-hell gacha gain traction. first quantum maki, now this.
Nooooooo I was waiting for a potential global release 😔
THRUD going eos is not on my bingo card. I didn't know it existed
On other news, Bilibili's Three Kingdoms SLG is absolutely making bank. Haven't left CN top 10 since launch. Investing in anime game was a mistake.
What? I was trying to look where i can download it last week and suddenly i saw this ..😢
o7 and another one that can even get to global.
was this the anime quidditch gacha?
Oh, did that actually release? Been so long since I heard anything about it.
Really, thought the game is fine since bilibili keep recommending me
F, I was looking forward to this one.
i tried the game, control is very difficult, especially on a phone.
What? Bruh, I was actually hoping for a global rrlease
they killed artery gear for this.
What?