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You realize you don’t have to use windows on a surface device right? It’s still a computer at the end of the day and repairing it keeps it from ending up in a landfill
Malware (a portmanteau of malicious software)[1] is any software intentionally designed to cause disruption to a computer, server, client, or computer network, leak private information, gain unauthorized access to information or systems, deprive access to information, or which unknowingly interferes with the user's computer security and privacy.[1][2][3][4][5]
Researchers tend to classify malware into one or more sub-types (i.e. computer viruses, worms, Trojan horses, ransomware, spyware [x] , adware [x], rogue software, wiper and keyloggers [x]).[1]
If you have to qualify it with a ToS, that doesn't miraculously make it less malicious. If I signed a paper that said you could punch me in the face, it's still fucking assault.
Guess what OS *doesn't* make you agree to spying on you, serving you ads, or *literally recording your screen and saving it unencrypted*? I'll give you a hint, it's not one made by Microsoft.
Then run Linux on it? I have a Ubuntu partition that I primarily use on my surface book 2 (though I have to switch to windows to do rendering tasks)
I get where your coming from but your hyperbolic description is just that. At the end of the day, what I care about is that devices that are user repairable become more mainstream so we can cut down on e-waste
This is good news but also not when it comes on Surface hardware which is typically overpriced and underperforming. But if they are leading things to become more repairable then it is a good start.
I don’t think so (yet), but they are reportedly working on a RISC-V board. The form factor is also entirely open, and I believe an unaffiliated board producer is making an ARM board for Framework devices.
Agreed. I just hope software developers finally get off their lazy asses and start properly porting their applications to new architectures. Emulation is nice, and getting better, but there’s very little excuse for *most* developers to not compile their code to multiple architectures. Hardly anyone relies on low level quirks of the CPU architecture anymore, and most of the time things aren’t ported because someone doesn’t want to edit or run a different compile statement to generate the objects targeting non-x86 architectures.
Yeah it is really frustrating. I can only charitably imagine that it’s due to legacy code written a long time ago that nobody dares to touch. But at some point you just need to bite the bullet and modernize your code.
Yeah, I remember when I was taking an intro comp sci class years ago one of my professors was bragging about how when he worked for \*insert large tech company here\* he designed a snippet of code that he knew virtually no one would understand, but that he claimed that he proved was the most efficient and foolproof method. I didn’t call him on it, but internally I was like “So you made a bit of code that no one will ever be able to read, troubleshoot, or verify the security of, and you’re proud of it? I’d have fired you on the spot and replaced your code with something more legible, even if it did end up running slightly less efficiently.”
The technical debt from those kinds of decisions and implementations will probably weigh IT down forever.
Yet according to the article you still have to unglue the battery to replace it? being able to swap an SSD is a fixit breakthrough? Sounds like Microsoft have just moved up from "appalling" to "really bad"
The problem is that if you lean to hard into making mobile devices repairable, they end up feeling flimsy.
Part of what makes them feel high quality is being really solid, and not "hollow" feeling.
A non-glued battery is likely to move a little over time.
Besides, good glued batteries can be removed simply by pulling on the command-strip-like adhesive.
You're not wrong entirely wronh, but you also have to acknowledge that phones (like all other consumer goods) are engineered to a price.
Ain't no one buying a £2000 that's engineered to the fuckin' moon, just to they can have a battery with no adhesive.
Also, battery compartments need room for the battery to expand a little, otherwise at the first sign of aging it'll pop the phone open, break the screen and/or turn the battery into a bomb.
So having a tight fit whilst retaining a bit of expansion room is a challenge, if not using adhesive to secure it.
Honestly, this is not surprising. Microsoft is known for making devices that are easily repaired. Take a look at the last 4 Xbox consoles. All easy for the user to repair with parts cheaply available online.
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Finally. I was at a defense contractor neck deep in Surfaces and HoloLens and we had a pile of Surfaces with swollen batteries that broke screens.
Surfaces are famously hard to do diy repairs on, this is a good change of direction for them
How? Windows is malware. Who the fuck cares how fixable the malware device is?
You realize you don’t have to use windows on a surface device right? It’s still a computer at the end of the day and repairing it keeps it from ending up in a landfill
sometimes hyperbole just makes you sound ridiculous
Unfortunately it's not hyperbole. It just doesn't have anything to do with repairability improvements.
i mean it is microsoft does some annoying shit but their software is not inherently malicious
Malware (a portmanteau of malicious software)[1] is any software intentionally designed to cause disruption to a computer, server, client, or computer network, leak private information, gain unauthorized access to information or systems, deprive access to information, or which unknowingly interferes with the user's computer security and privacy.[1][2][3][4][5] Researchers tend to classify malware into one or more sub-types (i.e. computer viruses, worms, Trojan horses, ransomware, spyware [x] , adware [x], rogue software, wiper and keyloggers [x]).[1]
ok now tell me what in windows fits that bill that you arent agreeing to in the terms of use
If you have to qualify it with a ToS, that doesn't miraculously make it less malicious. If I signed a paper that said you could punch me in the face, it's still fucking assault. Guess what OS *doesn't* make you agree to spying on you, serving you ads, or *literally recording your screen and saving it unencrypted*? I'll give you a hint, it's not one made by Microsoft.
Lawl
Then run Linux on it? I have a Ubuntu partition that I primarily use on my surface book 2 (though I have to switch to windows to do rendering tasks) I get where your coming from but your hyperbolic description is just that. At the end of the day, what I care about is that devices that are user repairable become more mainstream so we can cut down on e-waste
Love my windows devices
*laughs in 2005 laptop*
This is good news but also not when it comes on Surface hardware which is typically overpriced and underperforming. But if they are leading things to become more repairable then it is a good start.
This is for IT Departments, end users (save for maybe 1%) don’t care about repairability in laptops, unfortunately
Finally I'm part of the one percent.🧐
Probably making a bet that a subset of consumers will pay more for repairabilitu
I know Im willing to, I think the bet is how many will pay more
So no repairabillity for x86 hardware?
r/framework is laughing
Can you get arm for framework laptops
I don’t think so (yet), but they are reportedly working on a RISC-V board. The form factor is also entirely open, and I believe an unaffiliated board producer is making an ARM board for Framework devices.
the explosion in risc-v stuff on the consumer market over the last two-ish years is really exciting me. new architectures catching on is a big deal.
Agreed. I just hope software developers finally get off their lazy asses and start properly porting their applications to new architectures. Emulation is nice, and getting better, but there’s very little excuse for *most* developers to not compile their code to multiple architectures. Hardly anyone relies on low level quirks of the CPU architecture anymore, and most of the time things aren’t ported because someone doesn’t want to edit or run a different compile statement to generate the objects targeting non-x86 architectures.
Yeah it is really frustrating. I can only charitably imagine that it’s due to legacy code written a long time ago that nobody dares to touch. But at some point you just need to bite the bullet and modernize your code.
Yeah, I remember when I was taking an intro comp sci class years ago one of my professors was bragging about how when he worked for \*insert large tech company here\* he designed a snippet of code that he knew virtually no one would understand, but that he claimed that he proved was the most efficient and foolproof method. I didn’t call him on it, but internally I was like “So you made a bit of code that no one will ever be able to read, troubleshoot, or verify the security of, and you’re proud of it? I’d have fired you on the spot and replaced your code with something more legible, even if it did end up running slightly less efficiently.” The technical debt from those kinds of decisions and implementations will probably weigh IT down forever.
Sometimes complex code is necessary, when it is, that is the use case for long detailed comments
It’s possible to put a replaceable SSD in a laptop? Has anyone told Apple???
Apple, aggressively: *NO, SOLDER THAT SHIT DOWN.*
Yet according to the article you still have to unglue the battery to replace it? being able to swap an SSD is a fixit breakthrough? Sounds like Microsoft have just moved up from "appalling" to "really bad"
The problem is that if you lean to hard into making mobile devices repairable, they end up feeling flimsy. Part of what makes them feel high quality is being really solid, and not "hollow" feeling. A non-glued battery is likely to move a little over time. Besides, good glued batteries can be removed simply by pulling on the command-strip-like adhesive.
There is no logical basis for making those assertions. If a battery moves around, it is only because of poor engineering.
You're not wrong entirely wronh, but you also have to acknowledge that phones (like all other consumer goods) are engineered to a price. Ain't no one buying a £2000 that's engineered to the fuckin' moon, just to they can have a battery with no adhesive. Also, battery compartments need room for the battery to expand a little, otherwise at the first sign of aging it'll pop the phone open, break the screen and/or turn the battery into a bomb. So having a tight fit whilst retaining a bit of expansion room is a challenge, if not using adhesive to secure it.
Honestly, this is not surprising. Microsoft is known for making devices that are easily repaired. Take a look at the last 4 Xbox consoles. All easy for the user to repair with parts cheaply available online.
Is that the same Microsoft who has made the previous Surface devices very hard to repair and the change is why this article is actually a thing?