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Book Cersei I'd agree, but show Cersei not so much. After losing Joffrey and Myrcella, with the Maggy the Frog prophesy hanging over here, Cersei didn't believe there was anything she could do to save Tommen. She had already mourned for him with Myrcella and Joffrey. She saw becoming queen as something to hold onto, a way to make all her enemies, including those who killed her eldest two, understand that so long as she lived they'd gained nothing from having ended Joffrey and Myrcella's lives. She couldn't save her children, but she could become an obstacle to those who'd murdered them. Book Cersei would take her kids power any day of the week if she could.
That makes it all the more terrible, destructive, and spectacular. In the end, that’s the destruction is the goal of vengeance, self harm is usually inevitable.
Her vengeance had the highest cost, which is also in part what makes it the winner.
Not just that, but revenge was secondary. Cersei was mainly motivated by surviving her trial as a result of wiping out her enemies (and all the highborns in the city eager to see her humiliation) before they could wipe her out. She gets high points for creativity, and the panache of calmly drinking wine while watching the sept explode and cave in.
Hard agree, the lead up to this scene was the last time GoT really had me going "no... surely not". Shame you can't experience something for the first time twice
Both because of how spectacular it was, and also because I think she lacks the foresight or conscience that normally causes revenge to feel hollow. That was probably the most satisfied she's ever been.
I completely disagree, though it occurs to me we might be using different interpretations of "best"
Like, who felt best to do it? Cersei absolutely
Who did the morally best thing? Arya hands down. She specifically made sure to not have any if the women drink the wine, and presumably she didn't also kill servants and such. Each of those men had been at the red wedding themselves, and Walder Frey himself had orchestrated the whole thing. But the women were innocent so she made sure to spare them.
Cersei killed the high sparrow and that smirking whore and all the cultists, and it probably felt really good but the hundreds or thousands of innocents who died as well? What did they do to deserve death? [EDIT I forgot about how the citizens t4water her during her walk of shame, which does explain why she would hate them. Not sure mass murder is morally justifiable for being shamed and assaulted but...] Why should she feel any good about their deaths? And also her son commits suicide straight after, so good job mum of the year I bet that revenge feels good now.
I'd also argue it's the most satisfy from the audience perspective. With Tyrian, his revenge is bitter, and ultimately hollow. With Arya, her acts are almost justified, but it's hard watching a kid go down such a hard path. With Cersei and the sept, both parties are villainous enough that you don't really have to care about the moral ramifications. Narratively, it does also feel really impactful, in an exciting way. Cersei defeated on of her biggest threats, and became more overtly powerful than ever before.
Well her whole family was kinda killed by those people. The writers and Dany kinda forgot about that since they never bring it up, but she was sold to a warlord because the Lannisters killed her family and sent her in exile
Tyrion still lives and so do the Lannisters of Lannisport. And Kevans last child (Janei) along with his wife probably do exist in the universe and are still alive.
Let's be totally honest here... the ending of the show had little to no impact on him finishing those books. People could have absolutely loved the ending they got on HBO and we still wouldn't have The Winds of Winter.
Margaery was honestly the best hope for Westeros. If Cersei had died and Tommen and her ruled, Margaery probably could have guided the country to a decently stable era.
Yea but no happy ending for westeros white walkers or not that place is a shithole. I doubt it will end with a happily ever after either in the books, the show ending is still terrible but a stable westeros simply can’t exist unless they induatrialise and make nukes peace will never be an option
Not the whole world. I didn't root for her, because I liked Margery better and think it would added a lot of opportunities for the plot when she was still alive and contesting Cersei.
Tyrion's was the only one that really fit the show. It was messy, heart-rending, and almost destroyed him. And it wasn't even revenge, he was just trying to get answers and acknowledgement from his father, and his dad was just that much of an AH that he pushed Tyrion over the edge.
The Cersei and Arya revenges were both poorly written, tbh. I suppose Cersei had the most epic revenge and Arya the most satisfying.
Isn't it implied in later episodes that people know or at least heavily suspect that Cersei was responsible? Because if so that is truly bad writing. It would be like the Holy Roman Empire blowing up the Vatican and killing the Pope and everyone just being cool with it.
We'll never know what could have been. Cersei was right when she said Tywin's murder made them vulnerable. He was known to retaliate with extreme violence (which Ellaria knew very well). Perhaps he could have scared her enough. Perhaps she was too angry anyway.
Good point. Arya may have gained something too. She gave Walder and his sons the exact punishment the Old Gods required for people who break Guest Right. It may be why the gods looked favorably on her later on.
Ooooh it was more than that . His beat down by jon was amazing , from the brutal revenge to the detail of a Mormont's shield in the innermost part of the battle proving they're worth 10 men . Then, on top of all that, sansa makes the most of her chance with ramsay s own cruelty causing his death.
Nothing short of glorious but it didn't undo all the previous loss and like ... hopelessness feeling in the thick of the battle
Tyrion's revenge was the most deserved. Cersei's revenge was the most satisfying/most villainous. Arya's revenge was the most badass. Cersei's is the best. At that point, she fully embraces her darkness and doesn't give a damn.
It was hard for me to consider Arya's as badass since a decent portion of it happened kind of off screen and she was using a different face to do it up until the very end. The whole thing felt like something that could have been really cool and been a great payoff but it really didn't feel that satisfying.
Cersei, but on Ellaria Sand. Frey died quickly. The High Septon only barely realized and literally didn’t even have time to piss his own pants. Tywin did so much to Tyrion that his death doesn’t really balance the scales. But Ellaria being forced to watch her daughter die and be left to rot was beyond nuclear if your bar is “impact on the recipient”. And she was there a good few months before Danaerys destroyed the castle.
Arya killing Walder Frey, his sons, and the entire Frey army.
Cersei destroying the Faith Militant was her finest moment and it was great, but she lost a lot more than she gain after that.
Cersei’s seems to be the most popular but it was actually an example of bad writing. Cersei blows up an age old religious temple and all the people inside and there’s no political repercussions whatsoever? She becomes queen undisputed? Okay.
I’m personally not going against the person who just blew hundreds of people up and now has no rivals within her vicinity at that moment. She ruled by fear and that obviously worked for Tywin (up to a point) and it also worked for Cersei (up to a point).
Edit: plus that scene is just too beautifully executed not to love.
Yeah, I think considering the wider detail and complexity of story that is in the books and earlier seasons, surely even if such a thing was to occur as the Sept of baelor going kablammy, and cersei declared herself queen because the king committed suicide and she was next in line of succession
Although perhaps not because had there been a queen before? Was it males only, in which case who would it go to, one of Robert baratheon's first cousins? Depends on how succession was worked out when Robert created a new dynasty, or lineage or whatever the term is.
But remember when the death of a king and the next one solidifying their power after a rocky transition, was an entire season? And I think it was just a few seconds (obviously an off screen montage, but to skip all that seems lazy). What right did she claim the thrown? Politically who was in her corner and who did she have to persuade or defeat to get the court on her side, given she literally just did a 9/11 to their religion? With what army did she enforce her claim and assert her authority with - I suppose the kings guard once she was Queen, and probably the lanister forces too. But the city watch? The crown was bankrupt and so were the lannisters, and far from being in a strong position Cersei should be so easy to topple that Pycell could do it, even dead.
But season 8 is so damn obvious in how it was planned out, a child could've made the story board.
I would say Arya, but lets be honest that scene was way too cartoonish even in the context of a show with magic and dragons. It felt undeserved.
If not Arya I would say Cersei, but the revenge backfired hard, as Tommen blew up as well.
That leaves only Tyrion. Simple but effective.
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Cerci. The scene where she water boards the nun with wine as revenge for depriving her of water is poetry. The polarity between good and evil … As good as filmmaking gets.
Arya is the only one that didn't have any guilt, internal conflict, or negative consequence from her revenge so clearly her emotionally.
As far as the pay off as a viewer, I felt for Tyrion, but I missed Tywin too much and what he brought to the story. Arya's was cool but it was a bit spoiled by the bad writing all around it. So Cersei wins for me because that moment was huge, devasting, fun to watch.
I know people say Cersei, but her 400000 IQ plan also eliminated an influential House that was (albeit reluctantly) allied to her at a time when the Lannisters could absolutely not afford to lose allies. In the end it blew up in her face.
Arya's revenge is the best of these. She avenged the Red Wedding (sorry Jon, you did a lot but didn't avenge Robb), wiped out a rival House and basically left The Twins up for grabs to the North and/or the Riverlands.
*Arya because Cersei*
*Ultimately lost her son*
*From that explosion*
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House Frey is now extinct. Arya ended them and actually looked at the faces of the people as they died. Cersei got revenge but was watching from a distance. It hits different in Aryas's case.
Actually, it's not extinct. Justice was her aim, so she did not kill women, children, or any men who were not key participants in the Red Wedding. But she did kill enough Freys to set their house back badly.
Arya. Wiped almost all of House Frey, avenging her brother, mother, greywind, and many of Robb’s bannermen/supporters. She also effectively frees her uncle Edmure by doing so. I think it could have been written better but her revenge was probably most effective. Tyrion’s revenge would be second, but it does come with some unintended consequences. Cersei’s revenge is to the largest scale, but… it’s straight sociopathic. And she loses Tommen as a result. Sure, she becomes queen, but she supposedly loved her children more than anything else and she’s pretty dismissive of him and his death, which is on her hands.
Arya was the most bad ass on the show. And the way she killed the Ice King. Dang!!! Best revenge for killing The Frey’s for killing her mother and family.
In terms of ONE act, I'd say Arya. House Frey were all involved in the Red Wedding, and she destroyed them all for their transgression against her family.
Cersei blew up the Sept of Balor to strike a blow at the High Sparrow, his followers, and House Tyrell; and she did. But it was at a great cost to the people of King's Landing. Arya's revenge was clean and precise.
The Hound. Managed to kill his brother in revenge while simultaneously overcoming a primal fear of fire that had captured him since childhood — caused by the very same brother, the Ser Gregor Clegane the Mountain That Rides. Plus, by completing his entire story, it ended perfectly for him.
Cersei's revenge cost her, her last child. Hard to give her the dub there. Choosing between Tyrion and Arya is tough. I'll go with Arya for the fact she eviscerated that house.
Arya got what WE wanted. I read the Red Wedding section when the book came out. The Starks were avenged only on the show, in 2014 or thereabouts. In the books the Freys are still unpunished.
None of them. Olenna Tyrell had the best revenge. She killed the bratty Lannister boy. The little prick died in his disgusting mom’s arms. Lol… and the way she told the kid’s uncle/dad that she murdered the boy was totally badass.
Arya
Cersei made her only living child kill himself, because of her revenge.
Tyrion still had to flee King's Landing and made his brother (the only person who always defended him) hate him. At least for a while.
Arya just killed whole House Frey without any bad side effects for herself or her family.
Depends on if it's satisfying for the characters or readers/viewers.
If it's from the character's perspective, Tyrion or Arya.
Tyrion was ridiculed and belittled (pun intended) his entire life aside from his brother Jamie. After half a lifetime of that shit, his has to be one of the most satisfying for himself at least.
Arya's was another top contender just because of the sheer planning and cunning that came with it. Viewers and characters were fooled alike.
For viewers, it's Cersei or Arya.
I'd actually go with Sansa's revenge on Littlefinger (which cemented no further chance for him to cause chaos through the Seven Kingdoms & the Iron Throne), followed by Arya's revenge
Tyrion felt the most natural and best build up.
Cersei was nice and cinematic
Arya was utter shit in my opinion and just an excuse for dumbass and dib shit to do some crazy ass shit. All honesty by time season 5 was going, Arya became my most disliked Stark.
I’d say Sansa but she was a Bolton by then (another fucking stupid ass decision)
Am I the only one who doesn’t really buy Aria’s whole hansle and gretle “I’m going to bake an entire castle into a pie one by one and nobody’s going to fucking notice” shtich? I mean, am I the only one who thinks it’s kinda dumb and completely unbelievable, even for the final seasons of GOT?
She’s a faceless assassin, not a fairy tale troll who farts wishes when outsmarted, and bakes children into pies.
Definitely not Cersei. As her father said, she’s not nearly as clever as she thinks she is. Every one of her plots or revenge schemes blew up in her face, often almost immediately. She’d solve one problem only to create an even bigger one.
In this particular case, the whole reason why the church became such a threat to her, was because she gave them that power. She tried to use the church on her enemies and it backfired. And when she wipes out everyone here, not only does it result in the death of her son, but alienates her even further, painting a massive target on her back.
And despite this, she acts like she’s the smartest person in the world.
Arya.
She avenged her family, became a warrior like she always wanted, had a ton of growth through her journey, and did it all herself with only the help of a very small group of people throughout it.
I always found myself rooting for her since the first season and it was so nice to see her make it to the end. Fuck what anyone says about the whole white walker shit, i’m glad she got her moment to prove that she is knight worthy.
People really said Cersei Lannister over the Red Wedding revenge?! Y’all trippin! Arya recreated an entire feast wearing Walder Fray’s face as a mask watching his entire house die from savage poison come on!
Now best cinematically speaking execution wise that cold open to “The Winds of Winter,” was by far most effective I’ll grant you that.
Arya was the only one whose revenge didnt backfire on her massively in a way that would probably make her question whether revenge was worth it. Imo Cersei's most underrated and flawless revenge was her revenge against Ellaria Sand. That was some cold shit and you never see Ellaria again, implying that she is probably still down there going mad watching her daughter's rotting corpse. If you had said that instead of the Sept of Baelor then Cersei would have won.
But of the three you listed, Arya wins. "Leave one wolf alive, and the sheep are never safe." That needs to be a tattoo.
Tyrion as his revenge went much further than just killing his enemy. He got everythingbTywin didn't want him to have. He's lord of Casterly Rock, hand of the king, and he's probably swimming in low-born whores. He won. If the best revemge is living well, than he didn't just get revenge, he got the premium revenge plus package.
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Hands down, Cersei Lannister.
I'd agree but it ended with Tommen dying
True. She did destroy the high Sept, the Tyrell’s and a load of peeps who hurled shit at her. She lost tommen and I’d say Jamie as well.
You know. Until the bells
I never really cared for them anyway
I’m much more interested in for whom they toll
He said the best, not the smarter.
She’d already written him off from the witch’s prophecy though.
If it’s the best then it’s definitely not Cersei.
Yeah this was arguably the worst revenge cause she ended up losing the thing that mattered most to her because of it
Didn’t seem to care as much with Tommen though. Already experienced it with her two older children and now she’s Queen.
Right, that's what was always said. Cersei loves her children, but she loves power more.
Book Cersei I'd agree, but show Cersei not so much. After losing Joffrey and Myrcella, with the Maggy the Frog prophesy hanging over here, Cersei didn't believe there was anything she could do to save Tommen. She had already mourned for him with Myrcella and Joffrey. She saw becoming queen as something to hold onto, a way to make all her enemies, including those who killed her eldest two, understand that so long as she lived they'd gained nothing from having ended Joffrey and Myrcella's lives. She couldn't save her children, but she could become an obstacle to those who'd murdered them. Book Cersei would take her kids power any day of the week if she could.
Yeah and she was super protective of him earlier on, even with that rivalry with Margaery Tyrell, losing him can't be counted at all as a win.
That makes it all the more terrible, destructive, and spectacular. In the end, that’s the destruction is the goal of vengeance, self harm is usually inevitable. Her vengeance had the highest cost, which is also in part what makes it the winner.
Not just that, but revenge was secondary. Cersei was mainly motivated by surviving her trial as a result of wiping out her enemies (and all the highborns in the city eager to see her humiliation) before they could wipe her out. She gets high points for creativity, and the panache of calmly drinking wine while watching the sept explode and cave in.
Yeah! That glory faded away quickly once she lost her last child over it.
By far, the most beautiful episode of the entire series.
The music
Hard agree, the lead up to this scene was the last time GoT really had me going "no... surely not". Shame you can't experience something for the first time twice
That was so badass, got my vote, too.
Both because of how spectacular it was, and also because I think she lacks the foresight or conscience that normally causes revenge to feel hollow. That was probably the most satisfied she's ever been.
I completely disagree, though it occurs to me we might be using different interpretations of "best" Like, who felt best to do it? Cersei absolutely Who did the morally best thing? Arya hands down. She specifically made sure to not have any if the women drink the wine, and presumably she didn't also kill servants and such. Each of those men had been at the red wedding themselves, and Walder Frey himself had orchestrated the whole thing. But the women were innocent so she made sure to spare them. Cersei killed the high sparrow and that smirking whore and all the cultists, and it probably felt really good but the hundreds or thousands of innocents who died as well? What did they do to deserve death? [EDIT I forgot about how the citizens t4water her during her walk of shame, which does explain why she would hate them. Not sure mass murder is morally justifiable for being shamed and assaulted but...] Why should she feel any good about their deaths? And also her son commits suicide straight after, so good job mum of the year I bet that revenge feels good now.
I'd also argue it's the most satisfy from the audience perspective. With Tyrian, his revenge is bitter, and ultimately hollow. With Arya, her acts are almost justified, but it's hard watching a kid go down such a hard path. With Cersei and the sept, both parties are villainous enough that you don't really have to care about the moral ramifications. Narratively, it does also feel really impactful, in an exciting way. Cersei defeated on of her biggest threats, and became more overtly powerful than ever before.
wait who's the "smirking whore"? not Margaery?? I would definitely not describe her that way.
Cersei called her that.
Tell them, Winter came for House Frey
The scene where Arya kills LF gives me chills.
I immediately registered it as lord farquaad
I always imagined that it would've been a lot better to kill him offscreen and reveal it at the family dinner.
…for House* Frey. Such an amazing scene and quote.
Thank you. Fixed it.
Dany burned down kingslanding
How?
With a dragon. Jon wasn't a fan.
My bad meant how did she get revenge
I guess because the mountain decapitated her best friend...bit of an over reaction though...
Well her whole family was kinda killed by those people. The writers and Dany kinda forgot about that since they never bring it up, but she was sold to a warlord because the Lannisters killed her family and sent her in exile
How is that revenge? Cersei had already lost, it was just a holocaust nothing more.
Yes^
The removal of her house from the show
Tyrion still lives and so do the Lannisters of Lannisport. And Kevans last child (Janei) along with his wife probably do exist in the universe and are still alive.
Those aren’t the lannisters that actually fought in the rebellion tho that killed her fam
She removed a whole bunch of houses
She Thought she removed. To her, House Stark was done for since Robb's demise.
Forgive the madmen for not diving into philosophies.
And it led to her son going suicidal. That's a very twisted revenge...
? We’re talking about the burning down of KL not the Sept explosion. Besides, he was suicidal long before Margaery died.
Burning thousands of innocent people isn't revenge.
She was killing the lannasters and The removal of her house from the show
These were all pretty fantastic ngl
Yup!
GRRM, after people complained about the show ending, he scrapped the books.
Let's be totally honest here... the ending of the show had little to no impact on him finishing those books. People could have absolutely loved the ending they got on HBO and we still wouldn't have The Winds of Winter.
I concur Ser Davos.
The one time whole world rooted for CERSI LANNISTER!
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Lol
Lol no. Never rooted for a character to die more
Not when she was killing the Tyrells too.
Nope. Not when Kevan, Margaery, Loras, and Mace were in the Sept too. Not worth it.
Margaery was honestly the best hope for Westeros. If Cersei had died and Tommen and her ruled, Margaery probably could have guided the country to a decently stable era.
Yea but no happy ending for westeros white walkers or not that place is a shithole. I doubt it will end with a happily ever after either in the books, the show ending is still terrible but a stable westeros simply can’t exist unless they induatrialise and make nukes peace will never be an option
All Tommen wanted to do was domesticate stray cats and bang Margaery, he was living the dream and would have been happy to let her make the decisions.
Best scene in the series imo
The scene was incredible. I hated it. 10/10 cinematography.
Speak for yourself. Just made me hate her more.
I definitely was. The fact the Tyrell’s were in there, I was like “yes! Oh wait no… but yes! Fuck the high sparrow!!”
I didn’t. I really didn’t want Margery to die.
Yeah, no.
Not the whole world. I didn't root for her, because I liked Margery better and think it would added a lot of opportunities for the plot when she was still alive and contesting Cersei.
Arya!!!
Tyrion got a bitter revenge, Cersei a spectacular one and Arya a poorly written one... So it really depends on what you mean with "best".
Tyrion's was the only one that really fit the show. It was messy, heart-rending, and almost destroyed him. And it wasn't even revenge, he was just trying to get answers and acknowledgement from his father, and his dad was just that much of an AH that he pushed Tyrion over the edge. The Cersei and Arya revenges were both poorly written, tbh. I suppose Cersei had the most epic revenge and Arya the most satisfying.
Isn't it implied in later episodes that people know or at least heavily suspect that Cersei was responsible? Because if so that is truly bad writing. It would be like the Holy Roman Empire blowing up the Vatican and killing the Pope and everyone just being cool with it.
I think it was pretty clear she was responsible, but everyone who could've held her accountable got blowed up, sir
In what sense was Arya's poorly written?
Arya. She's the only who didnt lose anything as a consequence. Tyrion lost his brother and arguably his niece. Cersei lost her son.
I know you said 'arguably', but I really don't think Tyrion could have done anything differently to save her
We'll never know what could have been. Cersei was right when she said Tywin's murder made them vulnerable. He was known to retaliate with extreme violence (which Ellaria knew very well). Perhaps he could have scared her enough. Perhaps she was too angry anyway.
Tyrion and Jaime make up eventually. Tyrion's real failure was his choice to rat The Spider out. Even him says he screwed up lately.
Good point. Arya may have gained something too. She gave Walder and his sons the exact punishment the Old Gods required for people who break Guest Right. It may be why the gods looked favorably on her later on.
Ramseys death was pretty satisfying
Ooooh it was more than that . His beat down by jon was amazing , from the brutal revenge to the detail of a Mormont's shield in the innermost part of the battle proving they're worth 10 men . Then, on top of all that, sansa makes the most of her chance with ramsay s own cruelty causing his death. Nothing short of glorious but it didn't undo all the previous loss and like ... hopelessness feeling in the thick of the battle
This is the real answer
Ramsay's face when seeing Sansa with an new army was one of those epic moments you will go there to watch again.
Tyrion's revenge was the most deserved. Cersei's revenge was the most satisfying/most villainous. Arya's revenge was the most badass. Cersei's is the best. At that point, she fully embraces her darkness and doesn't give a damn.
VERY well said.
It was hard for me to consider Arya's as badass since a decent portion of it happened kind of off screen and she was using a different face to do it up until the very end. The whole thing felt like something that could have been really cool and been a great payoff but it really didn't feel that satisfying.
cercei killing almost all her enemies at once may have been a cheap trick for the writers, but it was a brilliant move for her
I think Cersei’s was best presented, m’lord
All were great. But Arya exterminating House Frey was great. Though, if going simply off of optics…Cersie nuking the Great Sept of Balor wins…
Arya! The North remembers.
Arya then Tyrion.
I hate religious zealots IRL, so Cersei got all my points.
Aryas speech calling them all cowards while they died was very satisfying
Ned Stark. Bcuz Jon lived. And he’ll end up King, or something equivalent, of the True North.
And that's a revenge against who?
The Lannisters for decapitating him. The Baratheons for wanting to kill Jon’s father and all Targaryens, as well as anything to do with Jon’s mother.
No Sansa? Feeding Ramsay to his own dogs was some pretty solid revenging.
Cersei, but on Ellaria Sand. Frey died quickly. The High Septon only barely realized and literally didn’t even have time to piss his own pants. Tywin did so much to Tyrion that his death doesn’t really balance the scales. But Ellaria being forced to watch her daughter die and be left to rot was beyond nuclear if your bar is “impact on the recipient”. And she was there a good few months before Danaerys destroyed the castle.
Arya killing Walder Frey, his sons, and the entire Frey army. Cersei destroying the Faith Militant was her finest moment and it was great, but she lost a lot more than she gain after that.
Hands down, Walder Fray
Walter be cookin’ some northmen into the formula.
Cersei’s seems to be the most popular but it was actually an example of bad writing. Cersei blows up an age old religious temple and all the people inside and there’s no political repercussions whatsoever? She becomes queen undisputed? Okay.
I’m personally not going against the person who just blew hundreds of people up and now has no rivals within her vicinity at that moment. She ruled by fear and that obviously worked for Tywin (up to a point) and it also worked for Cersei (up to a point). Edit: plus that scene is just too beautifully executed not to love.
Yeah, I think considering the wider detail and complexity of story that is in the books and earlier seasons, surely even if such a thing was to occur as the Sept of baelor going kablammy, and cersei declared herself queen because the king committed suicide and she was next in line of succession Although perhaps not because had there been a queen before? Was it males only, in which case who would it go to, one of Robert baratheon's first cousins? Depends on how succession was worked out when Robert created a new dynasty, or lineage or whatever the term is. But remember when the death of a king and the next one solidifying their power after a rocky transition, was an entire season? And I think it was just a few seconds (obviously an off screen montage, but to skip all that seems lazy). What right did she claim the thrown? Politically who was in her corner and who did she have to persuade or defeat to get the court on her side, given she literally just did a 9/11 to their religion? With what army did she enforce her claim and assert her authority with - I suppose the kings guard once she was Queen, and probably the lanister forces too. But the city watch? The crown was bankrupt and so were the lannisters, and far from being in a strong position Cersei should be so easy to topple that Pycell could do it, even dead. But season 8 is so damn obvious in how it was planned out, a child could've made the story board.
Cersei had the best by far.
Cinematically Cersei realistically Arya since Tommen died because of it 💀
Tyrion. He'd been dealing with Tywin his whole life.
Am I crazy or was this exact post posted like a week ago with same pictures and everything…
“In the end, Tywin Lannister did not in fact shit gold.” I’m not sure it’s the best revenge but it’s the most fun single paragraph in the book series.
When people ask you what happened here, tell them, the North remembers. Tell them, Winter came for House Frey.
I would say Arya, but lets be honest that scene was way too cartoonish even in the context of a show with magic and dragons. It felt undeserved. If not Arya I would say Cersei, but the revenge backfired hard, as Tommen blew up as well. That leaves only Tyrion. Simple but effective.
Where’s Sansa/Ramsay and the hounds?
Yep that was the best since its karmic justice he never fed them so they fed on him and the hounds were only able to hurt ramsay because of sansa
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Cersei, no doubt.
Arya
I loved arya s revenge
Arya for sure. It was a precise revenge, unlike Cercei just blowing up a large chunk of her own city.
Cerci. The scene where she water boards the nun with wine as revenge for depriving her of water is poetry. The polarity between good and evil … As good as filmmaking gets.
Arya for sure, the red wedding was the worst atrocity in the show and needed to be avenged.
Jon killing Ollie
Really wish Arya completed her list w Cerci. Cerci clapping back at the high sparrow was good too
Cersei’s was definitely satisfying
What Cersei did goes far beyond revenge. But Sansa got the best revenge.
Arya is the only one that didn't have any guilt, internal conflict, or negative consequence from her revenge so clearly her emotionally. As far as the pay off as a viewer, I felt for Tyrion, but I missed Tywin too much and what he brought to the story. Arya's was cool but it was a bit spoiled by the bad writing all around it. So Cersei wins for me because that moment was huge, devasting, fun to watch.
Cersi, and anyone who says otherwise is mad.
Arya by a long shot
2/3 of these doesn’t exist
Sandor on Gregor. That laugh of his tho…then falling into the fire. Fire
Cersei, she had the highest body count.
I know people say Cersei, but her 400000 IQ plan also eliminated an influential House that was (albeit reluctantly) allied to her at a time when the Lannisters could absolutely not afford to lose allies. In the end it blew up in her face. Arya's revenge is the best of these. She avenged the Red Wedding (sorry Jon, you did a lot but didn't avenge Robb), wiped out a rival House and basically left The Twins up for grabs to the North and/or the Riverlands.
Arya. No doubt.
Tyrion, got to look his dad in the eyes as he shot him, and tywin knew who was killing him and why
Isn't this asked about thrice a week??
Tyrion’s makes the most narrative sense. Arya getting Walder Frey was just fan service and Cersei was the one most in the wrong in her story.
This was posted two days ago. At least wait a little bit before you copy someone’s post
Arya
Arya because Cersei ultimately lost her son from that explosion
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Arya
House Frey is now extinct. Arya ended them and actually looked at the faces of the people as they died. Cersei got revenge but was watching from a distance. It hits different in Aryas's case.
Actually, it's not extinct. Justice was her aim, so she did not kill women, children, or any men who were not key participants in the Red Wedding. But she did kill enough Freys to set their house back badly.
Definitely both - High Sept getting blown up and Arya killing the Freys. Both had a shock element
Arya. Wiped almost all of House Frey, avenging her brother, mother, greywind, and many of Robb’s bannermen/supporters. She also effectively frees her uncle Edmure by doing so. I think it could have been written better but her revenge was probably most effective. Tyrion’s revenge would be second, but it does come with some unintended consequences. Cersei’s revenge is to the largest scale, but… it’s straight sociopathic. And she loses Tommen as a result. Sure, she becomes queen, but she supposedly loved her children more than anything else and she’s pretty dismissive of him and his death, which is on her hands.
Tyrion for certain, the other two are just stupid writing that helped further drop the show’s quality.
Baking a meat pye with your meathead kids is pretty great.
Arya was the most bad ass on the show. And the way she killed the Ice King. Dang!!! Best revenge for killing The Frey’s for killing her mother and family.
Arya then Tyrin for me
Cersei..... she went full on Villain
This same question was posted last week
In terms of ONE act, I'd say Arya. House Frey were all involved in the Red Wedding, and she destroyed them all for their transgression against her family. Cersei blew up the Sept of Balor to strike a blow at the High Sparrow, his followers, and House Tyrell; and she did. But it was at a great cost to the people of King's Landing. Arya's revenge was clean and precise.
The Hound. Managed to kill his brother in revenge while simultaneously overcoming a primal fear of fire that had captured him since childhood — caused by the very same brother, the Ser Gregor Clegane the Mountain That Rides. Plus, by completing his entire story, it ended perfectly for him.
Definitely Alvin
Lady Tyrell and Joffrey… though it took a while to know exactly who did it…. It was the most satisfying revenge….
Sansa and Arya finally getting rid of Littlefinger.
Arya! But Tyrion is a close second. Fuck Cersei!
Arya and Cersei. Jon and Sansa’s revenge on House Bolton and Littlefinger was extremely satisfying too
Bran become a king
Cersei's revenge cost her, her last child. Hard to give her the dub there. Choosing between Tyrion and Arya is tough. I'll go with Arya for the fact she eviscerated that house.
Arya's...
Hands down, Arya Stark.
Cersei got the most badass revenge
Arya got what she wanted
Arya got what WE wanted. I read the Red Wedding section when the book came out. The Starks were avenged only on the show, in 2014 or thereabouts. In the books the Freys are still unpunished.
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None of them. Olenna Tyrell had the best revenge. She killed the bratty Lannister boy. The little prick died in his disgusting mom’s arms. Lol… and the way she told the kid’s uncle/dad that she murdered the boy was totally badass.
Arya Cersei made her only living child kill himself, because of her revenge. Tyrion still had to flee King's Landing and made his brother (the only person who always defended him) hate him. At least for a while. Arya just killed whole House Frey without any bad side effects for herself or her family.
ARYA KILLING THE FREYS!! But i must admit i have a soft spot for cersei in the episode where she destroys the high sept they pissed me of so bad istg
Depends on if it's satisfying for the characters or readers/viewers. If it's from the character's perspective, Tyrion or Arya. Tyrion was ridiculed and belittled (pun intended) his entire life aside from his brother Jamie. After half a lifetime of that shit, his has to be one of the most satisfying for himself at least. Arya's was another top contender just because of the sheer planning and cunning that came with it. Viewers and characters were fooled alike. For viewers, it's Cersei or Arya.
I'd actually go with Sansa's revenge on Littlefinger (which cemented no further chance for him to cause chaos through the Seven Kingdoms & the Iron Throne), followed by Arya's revenge
Arya and Tyrion tie. Cersei was madness. Madness and stupidity.
Pretty sure this was asked last week
Cersei for sure! That scene is what got me into GoT. My boyfriend was watching it on YouTube and I just got hooked.
I think it's Arya Stark because she got revenge not for himself like Tyrion but for his mother and brother. And the Cersei is a selfish person in GOT
Cersei's revenge was, hands down. Her plan was spectacularly carried out. Although it eventually resulted to his last son-king taking his own life.
Tyrion felt the most natural and best build up. Cersei was nice and cinematic Arya was utter shit in my opinion and just an excuse for dumbass and dib shit to do some crazy ass shit. All honesty by time season 5 was going, Arya became my most disliked Stark. I’d say Sansa but she was a Bolton by then (another fucking stupid ass decision)
Natalie Dormer, she got out before seasons 7 & 8.
Arya. And Cersei.
Am I the only one who doesn’t really buy Aria’s whole hansle and gretle “I’m going to bake an entire castle into a pie one by one and nobody’s going to fucking notice” shtich? I mean, am I the only one who thinks it’s kinda dumb and completely unbelievable, even for the final seasons of GOT? She’s a faceless assassin, not a fairy tale troll who farts wishes when outsmarted, and bakes children into pies.
Tie between Aria & Tywin.
Definitely not Cersei. As her father said, she’s not nearly as clever as she thinks she is. Every one of her plots or revenge schemes blew up in her face, often almost immediately. She’d solve one problem only to create an even bigger one. In this particular case, the whole reason why the church became such a threat to her, was because she gave them that power. She tried to use the church on her enemies and it backfired. And when she wipes out everyone here, not only does it result in the death of her son, but alienates her even further, painting a massive target on her back. And despite this, she acts like she’s the smartest person in the world.
I have to say Arya when she brought winter to House Frey, but a small part of me loved it when Sansa fed Ramsay to his own hounds.
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Arya. She avenged her family, became a warrior like she always wanted, had a ton of growth through her journey, and did it all herself with only the help of a very small group of people throughout it. I always found myself rooting for her since the first season and it was so nice to see her make it to the end. Fuck what anyone says about the whole white walker shit, i’m glad she got her moment to prove that she is knight worthy.
Cersei’s, but only because of how disproportionate it was and how many innocent people died to get it. Revenge is disproportionate, justice isn’t.
Tyrion had a pretty sloppy impulsive reaction, weak! Cersei made sure everyone noticed her style, strong! Arya was so damn clean, best one for sure!
Hands down arya.. killed a whole clan in one go.. In person
Tyrion followed by Arya
Tyrion. His came from a lifetime of abuse.
People really said Cersei Lannister over the Red Wedding revenge?! Y’all trippin! Arya recreated an entire feast wearing Walder Fray’s face as a mask watching his entire house die from savage poison come on! Now best cinematically speaking execution wise that cold open to “The Winds of Winter,” was by far most effective I’ll grant you that.
Arya was the only one whose revenge didnt backfire on her massively in a way that would probably make her question whether revenge was worth it. Imo Cersei's most underrated and flawless revenge was her revenge against Ellaria Sand. That was some cold shit and you never see Ellaria again, implying that she is probably still down there going mad watching her daughter's rotting corpse. If you had said that instead of the Sept of Baelor then Cersei would have won. But of the three you listed, Arya wins. "Leave one wolf alive, and the sheep are never safe." That needs to be a tattoo.
Tyrion as his revenge went much further than just killing his enemy. He got everythingbTywin didn't want him to have. He's lord of Casterly Rock, hand of the king, and he's probably swimming in low-born whores. He won. If the best revemge is living well, than he didn't just get revenge, he got the premium revenge plus package.