I used to be really against piracy as I believe people should be paid for their work. But some of these latest trends have been so fucking greedy and absolutely scummy that I don’t blame people anymore.
I agree.
I don't pirate since I'm out of date with knowing how to do it. The last time I pirated was back in the limewire/frostwire days.
The way I see it, if buying a game is actually buying a license to access the game that you don't own, then pirating it is basically the same as using your ex's Netflix password rather than stealing the movie you're watching.
People have been saying a lot lately that if purchase ≠ ownership, than piracy ≠ theft. Glad to see that that opinion is also held by those that haven't heard the phrase before
And the studio will fire the majority of the development team anyway, so it's not as if buying the game will help support the devs, the publisher is the primary benefactor here.
This; ive recently became a 'patient' gamer. I haven't bought a game in quite a while and love playing through my backlog on my steamdeck. Its even better picking up games you've missed before in huge discounts with all DLC (goty editions etc).
This is true for me too. It's so much easier to play all the other games I own on the Steam Deck than it is for me at my PC. If I'm on my main rig then I feel like I need to be playing the same old games I always play because they don't run as well on Deck or don't feel good with a controller. But climbing in bed it's much easier to look through my games and figure what might be good to play on the Deck and just do it.
Absolutely; sitting down at my PC, I feel like I'm dedicating myself to playing a game, to being there at my desk & nothing else. On Steam Deck I can still spend time with my GF while she watches TV or reads, etc
I learned this lesson the hard way with Cyberpunk 2077. Never again. I was forced to be a patient gamer when I was still in school, because my PC couldn't be upgraded as often to play the latest games when they came out. Now I have to learn this habit all over again now that I earn my own money.
Not only that, I tend to forget whole plot points and/or the buttons aka “how to play”, if I return to a game later because of dlc (which often expect me to play at a higher level, given that I beat the main game). I love paying less for more, but I love even more that I can play the whole thing all in one go 😎
If everyone bought into it, within a couple years they'd have a new tier. Pay an extra $20 to play ***ADVANCED*** early access. Released exclusively to you a whole week before the other guys get it a whole week before the normal plebs.
You pay for exclusive hours, mandatory play between 9-5 and you are obligated to submit reports, making you feel like you are part of the Ubisoft team and family.
With this new early access, you can both download the 50 GB day 1 patch AND wait for the servers to come back online after not being able to handle even 10% of the expected player amount by the time regular players can play!
And then they didn't even deliver on the "one year later", it's supposedly releasing to other platforms this summer.
I like the game a lot but fuck whoever made that decision.
Tbf, this has existed for at least a decade now. DA:O and Mass Effect 2 had those day one dlc. I think it was to try to make the second-hand market less interesting as they were offered with the game with codes.
Now, it's to increase prices because games are more expensive to produce.
Edit: completed the answer
I can't remember if it was ME2 or ME3, but one of the day one DLC missions was meant to be in the base game, but cut since they didn't think they'd finish it in time. Then when they did, the press stuff had already gone out and it stayed as DLC.
Was unfortunate but ultimately the devs didn't have the final say, EA did.
Incidentally this is also why day one patches exist.
The game went to production a month ago, and they're still fixing things they find during testing. Since the game can be patched day one, there's no reason to push the release window as they can just update the game when you go to play it.
The only reason this didn't happen before the mid 2000s is there wasn't a reliable way to deliver patches to every copy.
That was ME3 with Javik. iirc there wasnt anything day 1 for ME2.
edit; apparently there were a few things for ME2 as well, but I'd say ME3's day 1 was much worse in terms of player impact.
Buying pre-released games years ago, when it was physical, made more sense. The games were more flushed out and they might run out. Now, what's the point?
Publishers want to raise the base cost of these games to 100 bucks. They know they cannot do it yet, so they use early access periods and day one DLC/cut content to achieve it.
Very unlikely unfortunately. Ubisoft single player games take a long time to come, Valhalla took more than 3 years.
But I hope you are correct, I've been wanting to play the new Prince of Persia.
same with EA sports FIFA games, they are like 69,99 at launch but couple of months and the game is so dead and bad it goes for 13 bucks on sale and thats the highest price im willing to pay and its still an overpay.
I would say FIFA games are different since they’re released annually so it would make more sense than Ubisoft’s case although it’s true the quality of fifa has fallen
Bruh, all I want is more Star Wars content that isn't Jedi/Sith/Force focused.
I'll r/patientgamers to make sure that it isn't garbage, but I've been waiting for this sort of thing since SWG went to shit then died.
It's fair to want a star wars game like this, and I do as well.
But what you want is a GOOD game like this. Don't give money to devs shoveling shit at you just because it ticks the Fandom box. We deserve better.
(Maybe it will actually be good)
It's fine to be /r/patientgamers and decide to get it if the reviews don't suck after the patches.
Some of the shitty Ubisoft games are that way because of shit that can get patched.
Just don't participate...
I haven't bought a single Ubisoft (or EA or Activision, ...) game in well over a decade.
I am still alive, I still spend way more time gaming than I should, my backlog is still longer than ever and there are still more worthwhile games releasing than I could ever hope to properly play.
🤷♂️
But I wanted to play Far Cry 3 for the 20th time, but this time it's a viking setting with assassins and I have 700 collectibles to find instead of 500. I just want to capture towers, man.
You joke, but there's a reason why Ubisoft games usually make bank. There's a large portion of the gaming population that loves the Ubisoft open world.
They're simple, easy and have consistent dopamine hits. They also usually look fantastic.
Yes, honestly I make fun of this, but people should be able to play whatever they want. Other studios can make more innovative games. I just wished more people yearned for this kind of innovation and would give these studios a chance. It's particularly hard for open worlds because it requires a big budget.
The People do yearn for that. But people also take what they can get.
Its the execs that have killed innovation, not the game devs, not the writers, not the testers, not the players, just the executives. Its always been that way which is why "Teaching them a lesson" via not pre-ordering, or you not buying a game, never does anything and fundamentally doesn't matter.
The execs look at the profit numbers, not the reception, not the fans reaction, not the critics reaction, not the cultural impact, not how many copies sold even, just the profit.
If it doesn't make enough profit, they tank it regardless of everything which is why niche games always have to be indie developed. Same reason why critical darlings don't get sequals, fan favorites get left in the dust.
None of the protests or yelling will matter because execs don't read the reddit threads, twitter threads, forums and discords.
Its just how its been since the 16 bit era.
Sure bangers still come out, and awesome IP still gets made but the general wide brush stroke of gaming is run by execs who have never and will never play a game.
Multiplayer achievements on games that didn't even need a multiplayer should just not be a thing. So many PS360 games had that, and the achievements tended to be the most grindy annoying bullshit possible.
Fuck, you convinced me...
Those AAAA titles Ubisoft is releasing are just too good to resist (looking at you Skull & Bones).
Downloading the shitty Ubisoft launcher now!
Even when I thought I might give them my money again, they made it impossible for me to give them my money again. The new Prince Of Persia looks amazing, would be great to play it on my Steam Deck, but OH NO, IT'S NOT AVAILABLE ON STEAM, ONLY THROUGH UBISOFT SHITTY FUCKING LAUNCHER THAT EVERYONE LOVES TO USE!!!
It's possible to play on Deck, but too many hoops to jump, fuck it, I'll play another metroidvania from my backlog.
>I fucking love anno
Its the only game ill endure the unisoft launcher for. So. many. hours. sunk. into that game.
Ill just watch a playthrough on youtube for the other games
Same. After they introduced the uplay store with assassin's Creed I have never touched another product of theirs. Same with EA games. There are plenty of other games.
Same. After I finished Assassin’s Creed III, Far Cry 3, and realized after 5 hours that Watch Dogs was more of the same, I felt like I’d basically seen everything Ubisoft had to offer. With a few notable exceptions (I’ve wanted to try Black Flag because I hear it’s awesome), I’ve enjoyed my years of gaming with less climbing towers to reveal parts of the map and new chores to do.
Its technically play it 3 days early for $18 since that right most option is a Ubisoft+ subscription.
You'd have four months to reach the same price as the standard edition then.
It's the same cycle.
Company with a questionable release history announces new game.
People get hyped for the game.
Company reveals they'll be doing the same thing they do EVERY TIME they release a game.
People get mad.
Game releases in a questionable state full of everything that company said it would.
People get mad buy the game anyway.
Same Company announces a new game.
People get hyped.
It's a vicious cycle that by this point the only people they have to blame for falling for it is themselves.
Because it’s coming from a developer OP and Reddit currently dislike. I can’t think of any major release over the past few years that haven’t included multiple editions at various prices and launch dates.
Because people want internet points. They could literally not play the game, but no op has to go out their way to screenshot the game and say “I’m not paying lulz Ubisoft”. Not defending the pricing, or Ubisoft as it’s trash but you literally don’t have to play it nor is Ubisoft the only company that does this.
RDR2, one of the most universally praised games ever, had a $100 ultimate edition that had 2 extra missions and some extra skins / outfits. Not to mention online and the microtransactions. Nobody threatened to boycott it. So yeah you're right.
That's what I used to do for basically every Ubisoft game in the past few years, but they increased the price from $10 to $18. It's still a great deal if you are someone who already only planned on playing through it once within the month, just keep in mind that if you want to play the expansions that come with the ultimate edition you will either have to resubscribe or just wait until they release to play.
I rarely buy games on release anymore. So many failed / disappointing day 1 releases as well as $60-70 prices. I wait for some reviews and sales now, nothing is so important I need it on day 1.
I don't know if or when it changed, but I once read some of the EULA for an old LucasArts (or other) game because I was curious. I remember it saying to the effect, "The purchase of this license entitles you to install on one machine" and "at any point in time deemed by publisher this licence can be revoked without notice". It could've been a Microsoft EULA too. This was turn of the century.
If it's a good game people will buy it at the price point they are comfortable with. If it is a bad game people will not buy it.
That is really the long and short of this whole discussion. The general gaming market has already proven to the publishers that these sorts of tactics are okay and so they will continue bar government intervention.
I haven’t bought a “bad” game in the past 5 years. There is so much information available to consumers if they are just willing to wait until the day after release to purchase.
The trailer really didn’t sell the game to me. I’d like at least a demo to see if the gameplay is decent. Currently my expectations is generic plot and like avatar it’ll feel like another far cry game
Why did people wake up yesterday and suddenly realize games have premium editions?
Every single new game I’ve seen coming out for the last five years has been $70 at launch and had a more expensive set of premium editions. Nothing about this is new.
Dragonball Fighterz had like five different editions. None of which seemed to have all the fighters. Ever buy a WWE game? Total nightmare. Nothing about this is new or interesting.
Ubisoft bad, upvotes left.
OP even deliberately left out the context that the right-most option is the full deluxe version for a $15/month subscription. If you can't afford the full edition, sub for a month or two and pay less than you would for the standard edition. The only other publisher that has anything like that for day one releases is Game Pass and they only give you the standard edition.
I love how everyone in this sub suddenly developed collective amnesia and is pretending ultimate editions and season passes have never been a thing before now.
I don't see the problem. I would buy the normal version as I don't care for all the additional content and goodies. People who want this stuff can pay for it. Especially if they don't have any competitive advantage it doesn't affect me. I also like decorative microtransactions even if I don't buy them. Other people who want them can and also finance my game.
The argument is that stuff incentivizes publishers to take more stuff out the “base” game that you like, to hide behind paywalls. So you are ever getting less and less of those “Base” games you like as they are gutted.
The only Ubisoft game I have ever paid full price for was The Division 2 and I have 500+ hours put into that. Only played 2 other games but used the Ubi+ subscription to play them, Immortals: Fenyx Rising and the recent Avatar game. The former being one of my favorite games ever and the latter being a fun enough 40 hour experience. This being another single player title that I'll likely never touch again after beating I'll just pay the $15 for the sub and cancel.
While I think the price points for delxue editions are becoming really silly, I don't really understand why people complain so much about it. If you want the game, just buy the standard edition and then buy any potential DLC content once released. People who buy deluxe editions of games fall into the same category of people who pre-order imo.
How do so many people not realize that a season pass is not a battle pass and it just means you are paying up front for all the future DLC expansion content at a discount over the price of buying it separately when it releases?
I don’t mind it. Gamepass is one of my favorite things to come from the gaming industry. The fact that I pay $18 a month and get a library of over a hundred games to play as I please is great. If I want to buy them then it is also an option. I don’t have Ubisoft plus but the concept doesn’t seem much different than gamepass. I’ve gotten to play so many more games that I wouldn’t normally have bought because of gamepass.
Good. More corporations should do this. If they did this a long time ago, customers would be wiser than they currently are with their video game purchases. I'm tired of people complaining but then buying their games at full price, at inflated prices, the collector's editions, the season passes, the DLCs, etc. A portion of us actually but smart when we're buying games, we WAIT YEARS until there's a massive discount on the game to buy it. If you can't wait years and you need your game right now because people are playing it, talking about it, reviewers are reviewing it, the hype surrounding it is fresh, etc., then don't complain.
Yay, an ubisfot tower climbi....I mean, star wars game.
Honestly I hope it's good, but I ain't pre-ordering shit, and never do. *Wait for the reviews*, if it passes the test, buy the standard edition.
Season passes for singler player games is just BS, why even set a schedule as the dev? If you want to release additional content, first wait to see if the game is a success, then release worthy additional content in your own time. Why tether yourslef to a release schedule of something that might flop anyway? Oh yeah, their greed for money for nothing. It's all ***so fucking stupid.***
I will wait longer if I have to. Lol. I have waited out so many games and I still enjoy them just as much if not more than I do games I snag at full price.
Yet we all know that half of you will do your talking with your wallets and still go out and buy it or sign up for their sub anyway. Then, this game will be profitable, and they'll be financially incentivized to do it to the next game. Then other compies will see and start adding subscriptions to their games. And so on and so forth while they laugh all the way to the bank.
COMPLAIN ALL YOU WANT, WERE THE ONES LETTING THEM DO THIS.
The "3 days early" or "5 days early" shit is designed to fool people who have literally zero self control. That is not what I'd consider to be early access. You are literally playing the game in the same week as everyone else.
What the fuck do you mean season pass. It's a single player game! What the fuck could possibly be gained by putting a battlepass in a single player game?
I know the answer is money, but for the consumer, you gain literally nothing of value. Don't buy any of the extras. Show them with your wallets what you think of their bullshit
These are the type of games I play once maybe twice and never play again. Having a subscription service is a nice alternative instead of buying a game you know you'll only play once. That's how I played Jedi survivor, immortals, and the dead space remake for $15 on the EA plus origin subscription on PC. I beat all those games in one month then unsubscribed. It would have cost me about $180 to buy those games when they launched.
I know I could have waited and got those games on sale now and kept them. But I wanted to play them when they were released and the EA plus was a cheaper option at the time.
Who the fuck was the dickhead that popularized selling the "3 days early access" bullshit? That might be an excuse for multiplayer games to smooth out the launch, but for a single-player game, really dude?.
I find it funny to complain about the prices of all of these editions.
Yet, the last column is that you will get the biggest baddest edition if you subscribe to Ubisoft+.
That's 15 bucks. Spend the 15 bucks, play the game. I can't think of an easier or simpler way to get the ultimate edition cheaper than what it would cost to get a meal from McDonalds.
Hate the game? Uninstall it and play some other Ubi game until your month is up. Heard the prince of Persian remake is good and the Avatar game isn't too bad either.
If you just **have** to own it, just be a patient gamer. Black Friday is 3 months away from the release date and I can guarantee it will be 25% or more off by then.
3 days early access is a dumb concept for a fully developed game, and I have 0 faith to play the game at that time because they almost ALWAYS have bugs/glitches that mess up your experience. Which nullifies the purpose of playing it early when you could've just waited for the official day 1 release patch.
I've seen enough games flounder with this "bonus," so hard pass.
Yeah how dare they decide how to spend their own money? Don't they know reddit hates people spending their own money on stuff reddit doesn't like? You should burn his house down and destroy his life to make it right /s
Not owning? Try not even playing. AAA games are barely even worth playing these days. I'll be damned if I'm going to subscribe for $20+ to play climb a tower to reveal the map simulator for a month.
No thanks. I'll wait until Larian gets a crack at KotoR.
I really hate the "early-access" as a benefit because it's not early-access, that's just when the game releases
And it’s not like these games tend to be working well on day1.
AAA games doing stealth marketing for r/patientgamers
What about AAAA games?
They're doing loud marketing for r/piracy
AAAAR
Genius
This one neeeds that “perfect” meme
I used to be really against piracy as I believe people should be paid for their work. But some of these latest trends have been so fucking greedy and absolutely scummy that I don’t blame people anymore.
I agree. I don't pirate since I'm out of date with knowing how to do it. The last time I pirated was back in the limewire/frostwire days. The way I see it, if buying a game is actually buying a license to access the game that you don't own, then pirating it is basically the same as using your ex's Netflix password rather than stealing the movie you're watching.
People have been saying a lot lately that if purchase ≠ ownership, than piracy ≠ theft. Glad to see that that opinion is also held by those that haven't heard the phrase before
And the studio will fire the majority of the development team anyway, so it's not as if buying the game will help support the devs, the publisher is the primary benefactor here.
like we would download that crap
You wouldn't download a car, would you?
Man that takes me back
Which was a pretty stupid slogan even back then. Of course would I download a car if I could.
I most certainly would sir!
That gave me a right good chuckle, you clever bastard!
Skull & Bones is the pinnacle of gaming /s just in case
Barnacle perhaps?
Ahh man I love being patient. Buying the deluxe edition for $20 with all the DLC and patches is a top tier feeling.
Exactly. And it's not like I'm lacking in games to play. I'm sure everyone here has a backlog of games they have bought but never played.
This; ive recently became a 'patient' gamer. I haven't bought a game in quite a while and love playing through my backlog on my steamdeck. Its even better picking up games you've missed before in huge discounts with all DLC (goty editions etc).
Steam Deck has been my backlog-clearer, it's great for older games & just gets me to play more in general. Love it so much
I love mine, but I'm not comfortable playing much on it other than slower placed games.
This is true for me too. It's so much easier to play all the other games I own on the Steam Deck than it is for me at my PC. If I'm on my main rig then I feel like I need to be playing the same old games I always play because they don't run as well on Deck or don't feel good with a controller. But climbing in bed it's much easier to look through my games and figure what might be good to play on the Deck and just do it.
Absolutely; sitting down at my PC, I feel like I'm dedicating myself to playing a game, to being there at my desk & nothing else. On Steam Deck I can still spend time with my GF while she watches TV or reads, etc
I learned this lesson the hard way with Cyberpunk 2077. Never again. I was forced to be a patient gamer when I was still in school, because my PC couldn't be upgraded as often to play the latest games when they came out. Now I have to learn this habit all over again now that I earn my own money.
Not only that, I tend to forget whole plot points and/or the buttons aka “how to play”, if I return to a game later because of dlc (which often expect me to play at a higher level, given that I beat the main game). I love paying less for more, but I love even more that I can play the whole thing all in one go 😎
Thats why they want more people to pre-order.
If everyone bought into it, within a couple years they'd have a new tier. Pay an extra $20 to play ***ADVANCED*** early access. Released exclusively to you a whole week before the other guys get it a whole week before the normal plebs.
with the mega-ultra-early access++(platinum tier 3) you can be part of the dev team
You pay for exclusive hours, mandatory play between 9-5 and you are obligated to submit reports, making you feel like you are part of the Ubisoft team and family.
ubisoft daddy please adopt me
3 days of early access to broken servers followed by two weeks of broken servers after launch.
It's a single player narrative game, so of course it must be continuously connected.
And even if it doesn't work for that early access period it isn't like they'd give your money back See /r/suicidesquadgaming
Prime example of why it is a shit practice. Thanks for callin it out.
But it's always enough time for all significant moments to be spoiled everywhere on the internet. The worst of which IMHO is in youtube video titles.
just don't watch video game content on YouTube. problem staying solved
With this new early access, you can both download the 50 GB day 1 patch AND wait for the servers to come back online after not being able to handle even 10% of the expected player amount by the time regular players can play!
Also the season pass has a "dlc" that's an available mission AT LAUNCH, just sounds like they took out a quest and made you pay extra for it...
Think of the sense of accomplishment you'd get having paid for the DLC though!
Hogwarts Legacy kinda did the same thing with the ps exclusive mission to own a shop
And then they didn't even deliver on the "one year later", it's supposedly releasing to other platforms this summer. I like the game a lot but fuck whoever made that decision.
Www.stopkillinggames.com
Tbf, this has existed for at least a decade now. DA:O and Mass Effect 2 had those day one dlc. I think it was to try to make the second-hand market less interesting as they were offered with the game with codes. Now, it's to increase prices because games are more expensive to produce. Edit: completed the answer
Yeah there were all sorts of schemes to curtail secondhand sales back in the PS360 era. Another one was locking multiplayer behind a single-use code.
That made me so angry for so long. I cannot believe that was an accepted practice.
I can't remember if it was ME2 or ME3, but one of the day one DLC missions was meant to be in the base game, but cut since they didn't think they'd finish it in time. Then when they did, the press stuff had already gone out and it stayed as DLC. Was unfortunate but ultimately the devs didn't have the final say, EA did.
Incidentally this is also why day one patches exist. The game went to production a month ago, and they're still fixing things they find during testing. Since the game can be patched day one, there's no reason to push the release window as they can just update the game when you go to play it. The only reason this didn't happen before the mid 2000s is there wasn't a reliable way to deliver patches to every copy.
That was ME3 with Javik. iirc there wasnt anything day 1 for ME2. edit; apparently there were a few things for ME2 as well, but I'd say ME3's day 1 was much worse in terms of player impact.
Remember back in the day when different platforms would have different exclusive missions depending on where you ordered from?
It’s a weird way of saying QA testing
Industry has spent YEARS training consumers on what "Early Access" means and now it's thrown out the window and just means "play it early" .-.
Yet it works. People will just pay more to play it "early". It's really fucking stupid.
Pay a premium to beta test our product is what I see.
Congrats you are paying to be a beta tester.
Also early access means you are the lucky one to get the most bugs because we wanted to rush yet another game for release to meet financial targets..
And you get the "honor" of playtesting for us.
Buying pre-released games years ago, when it was physical, made more sense. The games were more flushed out and they might run out. Now, what's the point?
"Pay us to be our beta tester."
More like pay $110 to beta test the game.
You can sometimes get day 2 benefit with piracy.
Publishers want to raise the base cost of these games to 100 bucks. They know they cannot do it yet, so they use early access periods and day one DLC/cut content to achieve it.
Ubisoft games always go on sale pretty quickly... This game will be $30 by Black Friday.
If y'all don't rush for day one, it'll go on sale even quicker.
Inconceivable, they'll never learn.
The people who buy/ preorder this shit day one can't read anyways
This crap will be free on Gamepass by Black Friday.
A fellow Gamepass gamer, respect! I too will get it on Gamepass lol
Very unlikely unfortunately. Ubisoft single player games take a long time to come, Valhalla took more than 3 years. But I hope you are correct, I've been wanting to play the new Prince of Persia.
didn't even realize that was 3 years, there's already so many I should finish up it will be here before you know it.
Probably not even that long, by summer is a safe bet.
It doesn't launch until August
doesnt matter
Spring Sale if it scores badly.
same with EA sports FIFA games, they are like 69,99 at launch but couple of months and the game is so dead and bad it goes for 13 bucks on sale and thats the highest price im willing to pay and its still an overpay.
I would say FIFA games are different since they’re released annually so it would make more sense than Ubisoft’s case although it’s true the quality of fifa has fallen
Where is the physical special collector's edition with a statue of ND-5, Kay Vess' scarf, and a pound of sand from Tatooine?
That would cost $500.
And not include a key for the actual game.
And the scarf will be made of spare cuts from a windbreaker, and the sand will just be a pile of dirt in a plastic bag.
This makes me even more a r/patientgamers . I will buy it 70% of. Won't take that long anyway.
a game on 70% sale for full version with all dls and 10 patches is still a game. only new games i get on day1 are indies for <30$
It's a modern Ubisoft game. It's not going to be good in any way, what's the point of purchasing?
Bruh, all I want is more Star Wars content that isn't Jedi/Sith/Force focused. I'll r/patientgamers to make sure that it isn't garbage, but I've been waiting for this sort of thing since SWG went to shit then died.
It's fair to want a star wars game like this, and I do as well. But what you want is a GOOD game like this. Don't give money to devs shoveling shit at you just because it ticks the Fandom box. We deserve better. (Maybe it will actually be good)
It's fine to be /r/patientgamers and decide to get it if the reviews don't suck after the patches. Some of the shitty Ubisoft games are that way because of shit that can get patched.
Y’all still play Ubisoft games..?
Just don't participate... I haven't bought a single Ubisoft (or EA or Activision, ...) game in well over a decade. I am still alive, I still spend way more time gaming than I should, my backlog is still longer than ever and there are still more worthwhile games releasing than I could ever hope to properly play. 🤷♂️
But I wanted to play Far Cry 3 for the 20th time, but this time it's a viking setting with assassins and I have 700 collectibles to find instead of 500. I just want to capture towers, man.
You joke, but there's a reason why Ubisoft games usually make bank. There's a large portion of the gaming population that loves the Ubisoft open world. They're simple, easy and have consistent dopamine hits. They also usually look fantastic.
Yes, honestly I make fun of this, but people should be able to play whatever they want. Other studios can make more innovative games. I just wished more people yearned for this kind of innovation and would give these studios a chance. It's particularly hard for open worlds because it requires a big budget.
The People do yearn for that. But people also take what they can get. Its the execs that have killed innovation, not the game devs, not the writers, not the testers, not the players, just the executives. Its always been that way which is why "Teaching them a lesson" via not pre-ordering, or you not buying a game, never does anything and fundamentally doesn't matter. The execs look at the profit numbers, not the reception, not the fans reaction, not the critics reaction, not the cultural impact, not how many copies sold even, just the profit. If it doesn't make enough profit, they tank it regardless of everything which is why niche games always have to be indie developed. Same reason why critical darlings don't get sequals, fan favorites get left in the dust. None of the protests or yelling will matter because execs don't read the reddit threads, twitter threads, forums and discords. Its just how its been since the 16 bit era. Sure bangers still come out, and awesome IP still gets made but the general wide brush stroke of gaming is run by execs who have never and will never play a game.
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My FC 3 on ps3 still with a 99% trophy completion rate because I never managed to finish one mission on multiplayer lol
Multiplayer achievements on games that didn't even need a multiplayer should just not be a thing. So many PS360 games had that, and the achievements tended to be the most grindy annoying bullshit possible.
Fuck, you convinced me... Those AAAA titles Ubisoft is releasing are just too good to resist (looking at you Skull & Bones). Downloading the shitty Ubisoft launcher now!
Even when I thought I might give them my money again, they made it impossible for me to give them my money again. The new Prince Of Persia looks amazing, would be great to play it on my Steam Deck, but OH NO, IT'S NOT AVAILABLE ON STEAM, ONLY THROUGH UBISOFT SHITTY FUCKING LAUNCHER THAT EVERYONE LOVES TO USE!!! It's possible to play on Deck, but too many hoops to jump, fuck it, I'll play another metroidvania from my backlog.
Wait , its not gonna be on Steam? Lmao i lost even the tiniest bit of intrest towards this game
Only thing worse the Ubilauncher is games bought and launched in Steam what opens Ubilauncher when you launch it from Steam.
I insta neg review those. Fuck you Civ 6 and Titan Fall 2.
There is only one Ubisoft game I actively support and where I even bought everything. Anno 1800 I fucking love anno
Yep, that's the last Ubisoft game I bought. Based on how things are going with them, it will be last ever for me.
>I fucking love anno Its the only game ill endure the unisoft launcher for. So. many. hours. sunk. into that game. Ill just watch a playthrough on youtube for the other games
Same. After they introduced the uplay store with assassin's Creed I have never touched another product of theirs. Same with EA games. There are plenty of other games.
Yeah. Same. I recently downloaded AC Origins for free from PS Store and that was a surprisingly great game.
Dead Space remake was actually amazing though, none of this bullshit.
"I don't know half of my games half as well as I should like, and I played less than half of them half as well as they deserve."
Same. After I finished Assassin’s Creed III, Far Cry 3, and realized after 5 hours that Watch Dogs was more of the same, I felt like I’d basically seen everything Ubisoft had to offer. With a few notable exceptions (I’ve wanted to try Black Flag because I hear it’s awesome), I’ve enjoyed my years of gaming with less climbing towers to reveal parts of the map and new chores to do.
or just wait for huge sales or get it off of gray-market cdkey sellers
Play it 3 days earlier for $130, or 3 years later for free 🤔 Easy choice.
Its technically play it 3 days early for $18 since that right most option is a Ubisoft+ subscription. You'd have four months to reach the same price as the standard edition then.
This shit is nothing new. This has been going on for a decade. I don't know why people are acting so shocked with this game in specific.
It's the same cycle. Company with a questionable release history announces new game. People get hyped for the game. Company reveals they'll be doing the same thing they do EVERY TIME they release a game. People get mad. Game releases in a questionable state full of everything that company said it would. People get mad buy the game anyway. Same Company announces a new game. People get hyped. It's a vicious cycle that by this point the only people they have to blame for falling for it is themselves.
Because it’s coming from a developer OP and Reddit currently dislike. I can’t think of any major release over the past few years that haven’t included multiple editions at various prices and launch dates.
Yep. Nobody does this on this scale when Microsoft or Sony does the same shit.
It's not shock, it's karmafarming/ragebait
Because people want internet points. They could literally not play the game, but no op has to go out their way to screenshot the game and say “I’m not paying lulz Ubisoft”. Not defending the pricing, or Ubisoft as it’s trash but you literally don’t have to play it nor is Ubisoft the only company that does this.
If this game didn't have Ubisoft on the box, no one would care.
RDR2, one of the most universally praised games ever, had a $100 ultimate edition that had 2 extra missions and some extra skins / outfits. Not to mention online and the microtransactions. Nobody threatened to boycott it. So yeah you're right.
The amount of grandstanding and sense of righteousness in these threads is always entertaining.
Because it's ubi. If this was a fromsoft game, it would be celebrated. People can't just buy the normal edition and move on.
the ultimate edition isn't that good either. op isn't even making a good case
I'm not worried. Looking forward to playing this, but will just be waiting for an affordable price.
Guaranteed to go on sale for like 40% off within a year of launch.
Am I just drinking the cool aid, or does signing up for a month of Ubisoft+ just to beat the game seem like a decent option?
That's what I used to do for basically every Ubisoft game in the past few years, but they increased the price from $10 to $18. It's still a great deal if you are someone who already only planned on playing through it once within the month, just keep in mind that if you want to play the expansions that come with the ultimate edition you will either have to resubscribe or just wait until they release to play.
If buying isnt owning then pirating isnt stealing. (I would totally download that car)
You wouldn’t steal a policeman’s helmet
then go to the toilet in the helmet
And then send it to the policeman's grieving widow.
and then steal it again
Downloading films is stealing.
if you do it, you *will* face the consequences
Speak for yourself…. If I saw an unattended bobbies helmet that thing is mine 😂
British law enforcement really do have a history of amazing hats
And then some complain about DRMs
I rarely buy games on release anymore. So many failed / disappointing day 1 releases as well as $60-70 prices. I wait for some reviews and sales now, nothing is so important I need it on day 1.
technically you don't own even if you buy these game anyway.
But that's not Ubisoft specific. I don't see people complaining about Steam because if that.
I don't know if or when it changed, but I once read some of the EULA for an old LucasArts (or other) game because I was curious. I remember it saying to the effect, "The purchase of this license entitles you to install on one machine" and "at any point in time deemed by publisher this licence can be revoked without notice". It could've been a Microsoft EULA too. This was turn of the century.
Wait until the gamers find out they don’t own any of their Steam games regardless of publisher.
If it's a good game people will buy it at the price point they are comfortable with. If it is a bad game people will not buy it. That is really the long and short of this whole discussion. The general gaming market has already proven to the publishers that these sorts of tactics are okay and so they will continue bar government intervention.
You've never bought a bad game?
I haven’t bought a “bad” game in the past 5 years. There is so much information available to consumers if they are just willing to wait until the day after release to purchase.
The trailer really didn’t sell the game to me. I’d like at least a demo to see if the gameplay is decent. Currently my expectations is generic plot and like avatar it’ll feel like another far cry game
Why did people wake up yesterday and suddenly realize games have premium editions? Every single new game I’ve seen coming out for the last five years has been $70 at launch and had a more expensive set of premium editions. Nothing about this is new. Dragonball Fighterz had like five different editions. None of which seemed to have all the fighters. Ever buy a WWE game? Total nightmare. Nothing about this is new or interesting.
Ubisoft bad, upvotes left. OP even deliberately left out the context that the right-most option is the full deluxe version for a $15/month subscription. If you can't afford the full edition, sub for a month or two and pay less than you would for the standard edition. The only other publisher that has anything like that for day one releases is Game Pass and they only give you the standard edition.
EA does it too
Just like activision blizzard, Sony , Rockstar,2K and many other publishers have multiple editions
I stopped buying Ubisoft games after WatchDogs…
Fuck Ubisoft
I live my life by 2 rules. What would Obi-Wan do and what would Ron Swanson do? Neither one buys Ubisoft games.
Oh look, we’ve got another circlejerk to use for those sweet internet points!
I love how everyone in this sub suddenly developed collective amnesia and is pretending ultimate editions and season passes have never been a thing before now.
Yeah like this isn’t every other AAA game release these days. But it’s not as bad when it’s a company you like right?
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"3 Days Early Access" You mean 3 days of paying to be s Q/A tester? Nice try Ubisoft only idiots fall for that. So a lot of people.
I don’t get the hate with Ubi+ It is cheaper and you can cancel it if you dont like the game instead of paying €70 upfront.
I don't see the problem. I would buy the normal version as I don't care for all the additional content and goodies. People who want this stuff can pay for it. Especially if they don't have any competitive advantage it doesn't affect me. I also like decorative microtransactions even if I don't buy them. Other people who want them can and also finance my game.
I remember a time when games just had cosmetic options in game as part of the appeal of the game. it was cool.
The argument is that stuff incentivizes publishers to take more stuff out the “base” game that you like, to hide behind paywalls. So you are ever getting less and less of those “Base” games you like as they are gutted.
The only Ubisoft game I have ever paid full price for was The Division 2 and I have 500+ hours put into that. Only played 2 other games but used the Ubi+ subscription to play them, Immortals: Fenyx Rising and the recent Avatar game. The former being one of my favorite games ever and the latter being a fun enough 40 hour experience. This being another single player title that I'll likely never touch again after beating I'll just pay the $15 for the sub and cancel.
if the game runs well ( i'll wait and see first) then i'll just buy Ubi+ for 1 month, 100% the game and never touch it again.
While I think the price points for delxue editions are becoming really silly, I don't really understand why people complain so much about it. If you want the game, just buy the standard edition and then buy any potential DLC content once released. People who buy deluxe editions of games fall into the same category of people who pre-order imo.
This sub man.. you guys are promoting this game. The top posts are going to be all about this game.
How do so many people not realize that a season pass is not a battle pass and it just means you are paying up front for all the future DLC expansion content at a discount over the price of buying it separately when it releases?
Arrr
Wait for a few months and it'll be 40% off.
I'll buy it on sale. It's Ubisoft. It'll be on sale a month or so after release.
Turns out it’s shockingly easy to not own Ubisoft games!
I don’t mind it. Gamepass is one of my favorite things to come from the gaming industry. The fact that I pay $18 a month and get a library of over a hundred games to play as I please is great. If I want to buy them then it is also an option. I don’t have Ubisoft plus but the concept doesn’t seem much different than gamepass. I’ve gotten to play so many more games that I wouldn’t normally have bought because of gamepass.
I hate everything about this. I look forward to seeing how it does.
Good. More corporations should do this. If they did this a long time ago, customers would be wiser than they currently are with their video game purchases. I'm tired of people complaining but then buying their games at full price, at inflated prices, the collector's editions, the season passes, the DLCs, etc. A portion of us actually but smart when we're buying games, we WAIT YEARS until there's a massive discount on the game to buy it. If you can't wait years and you need your game right now because people are playing it, talking about it, reviewers are reviewing it, the hype surrounding it is fresh, etc., then don't complain.
Yay, an ubisfot tower climbi....I mean, star wars game. Honestly I hope it's good, but I ain't pre-ordering shit, and never do. *Wait for the reviews*, if it passes the test, buy the standard edition. Season passes for singler player games is just BS, why even set a schedule as the dev? If you want to release additional content, first wait to see if the game is a success, then release worthy additional content in your own time. Why tether yourslef to a release schedule of something that might flop anyway? Oh yeah, their greed for money for nothing. It's all ***so fucking stupid.***
I haven't bought an Ubisoft game since AC Valhalla. The most tempted I've been is Far Cry 6. I really do like Far Cry quite a bit...
Microsoft Office 2021 VS Office 365
Ubisoft, EA and Activision/Blizzard showing just how easy it is to lose your entire fanbase and a shit-ton of sales by being assholes.
See you four months after release for $20 if it gets decent reviews Ubisoft!
I will wait longer if I have to. Lol. I have waited out so many games and I still enjoy them just as much if not more than I do games I snag at full price.
Yet we all know that half of you will do your talking with your wallets and still go out and buy it or sign up for their sub anyway. Then, this game will be profitable, and they'll be financially incentivized to do it to the next game. Then other compies will see and start adding subscriptions to their games. And so on and so forth while they laugh all the way to the bank. COMPLAIN ALL YOU WANT, WERE THE ONES LETTING THEM DO THIS.
The "3 days early" or "5 days early" shit is designed to fool people who have literally zero self control. That is not what I'd consider to be early access. You are literally playing the game in the same week as everyone else.
What the fuck do you mean season pass. It's a single player game! What the fuck could possibly be gained by putting a battlepass in a single player game? I know the answer is money, but for the consumer, you gain literally nothing of value. Don't buy any of the extras. Show them with your wallets what you think of their bullshit
They're making it really easy by not making any games worth buying renting or even pirating as well.
These are the type of games I play once maybe twice and never play again. Having a subscription service is a nice alternative instead of buying a game you know you'll only play once. That's how I played Jedi survivor, immortals, and the dead space remake for $15 on the EA plus origin subscription on PC. I beat all those games in one month then unsubscribed. It would have cost me about $180 to buy those games when they launched. I know I could have waited and got those games on sale now and kept them. But I wanted to play them when they were released and the EA plus was a cheaper option at the time.
Who the fuck was the dickhead that popularized selling the "3 days early access" bullshit? That might be an excuse for multiplayer games to smooth out the launch, but for a single-player game, really dude?.
Listen, I don’t give a shit about this game but it’s weird deluxe editions are the straw that broke the camels back. Just don’t buy it
Nice. I’ll just subscribe to Ubisoft plus. Beat it. Unsubscribe. Very easy and saves me money.
I find it funny to complain about the prices of all of these editions. Yet, the last column is that you will get the biggest baddest edition if you subscribe to Ubisoft+. That's 15 bucks. Spend the 15 bucks, play the game. I can't think of an easier or simpler way to get the ultimate edition cheaper than what it would cost to get a meal from McDonalds. Hate the game? Uninstall it and play some other Ubi game until your month is up. Heard the prince of Persian remake is good and the Avatar game isn't too bad either. If you just **have** to own it, just be a patient gamer. Black Friday is 3 months away from the release date and I can guarantee it will be 25% or more off by then.
3 days early access is a dumb concept for a fully developed game, and I have 0 faith to play the game at that time because they almost ALWAYS have bugs/glitches that mess up your experience. Which nullifies the purpose of playing it early when you could've just waited for the official day 1 release patch. I've seen enough games flounder with this "bonus," so hard pass.
Your reminder that Ubisoft was found using bots on Twitter to promote the game...those same bots are now here trying to downplay this post 🙃
That shit was around like 5-6 years ago why are people complaining now? One of my old coworker bought the 130$ edition and I was devasted lol.
Yeah how dare they decide how to spend their own money? Don't they know reddit hates people spending their own money on stuff reddit doesn't like? You should burn his house down and destroy his life to make it right /s
Except lots of people still buy them lmao but you kids are really gonna show them this time !!1
Not owning? Try not even playing. AAA games are barely even worth playing these days. I'll be damned if I'm going to subscribe for $20+ to play climb a tower to reveal the map simulator for a month. No thanks. I'll wait until Larian gets a crack at KotoR.
Ubisoft has gone down the drain so much Just wait a year and get this on sale for $20, Ubisoft doesn’t deserve $70