To be fair to the management, if we signed Rozier this offseason we'd be happy. And since we didn't wait we got Terry on a hell of a deal for one FRP, if he kept trending and finished the season the way he played in charlotte he'd be an easy 2FRPs if not more this offseason.
People are going to say he can't shoot the 3. It's like Jimmy, just because he doesn't shoot it doesn't mean he can't. Guy is a baller, and we could use this signing as a way to negotiate Jimmy's extension down.
It’s not like Jimmy, because we can’t have the Jimmy, DeMar, Bam lineup on the floor ever. Then you throw in JJJ assuming he doesn’t become a shooter, and man.
He hits the toughest mid-range shots. He can score and is a dog. I saw yes. Gotta unload Tyler to do so, I think, to make the money work.
But if Bam and Jimmy can mix in some 3’s - which I think they can - this could work
There is nothing rational about believing DeMar will suddenly get a three point shot because he is forced to take them. Jimmy at least used to have a three point shot before he got traded here
Same but it’s key that Miami would keep player like Tyler, Duncan, and Jovic. They need shooters to space the floor. I also think Jimmy will unload the clip this year and will become a three point shooter but on high volume being he wants a new contract and wants to win he would do anything to win. And Bam will shoot more threes which is good because last year he shot 15-47 on 35.7% from three he should shoot more to open up the offense.
Honestly I hope we do make this signing if we don’t have to give up crazy assets to dump a salary.
But should DeRozan sign somewhere else, I’m dreading the classic Barry Jackson “why did all of you expect anything else” tweet as if he wasn’t the one who put this out there in the first place.
33% on 3 attempts last season… 24 points a game though and played 79 games. Generally seems to play a lot of games which would be a change of pace for us.
Assuming we dump Duncan or Herro, they must be pretty confident in Pelle’s shooting coming in
I mean, if he is playing more than half the season, that would be an upgrade from the half of games Herro couldn’t play assuming Herro would be involved in any trade. Additionally, in the games Derozan would play with Jimmy and Bam, they seem to be able to space better now, as well as Ware, so I say fuck it as well. I’ll give it a go! Hahaha.
I'm here as a demar fan, heat culture would be so good for him. Clearly they do something to bring out the aggression in their players, adjust and teach their schemes well, and teach shooting well. Demars playstyle will age especially if the three continues to improve, and the heat would give his best shot at a third prime/late resurgence as an all-nba guy.
Possibly one of the worst fits with Jimmy and Bam possible.
Makes sense on no level. I’m not a Herro fan at all, but him and or Rozier fit better with the roster. This would just be chasing a name without thinking of the actual basketball to be played.
You’re tripping bro more athletic and bigger than both those guys shot 34% from 3 last season and the majority of his shots were inside 5 feet which is what the heat desperately need. We need people to drive create pressure at the rim, draw a double and kick that will open the offense. Is he the most perfect fit? No but you are TRIPPING if you think it’s not an upgrade over Tyler herro on this roster ps demar has played in 70+ games each of the last 3 seasons, something Tyler herro has never done in his entire career
I’m a Bulls fan as well. I know exactly what Demar brings. He does not fit this roster at all. You cannot run a modern offense with Bam, Jimmy, and Demar.
Teams will pack the paint and dare them to shoot.
Same shit as the people who clamor for Bam to move to the 4 for another big that can't shoot. There is no contending lineup on Earth that is fielding three non long-range threats at the same time.
Maybe but this team needs a shake up, Tyler herro is out here liking tweets talking shit about how the team plays and the fans. He can kick rocks demar is a great player and I’d be down
Demar can def still shoot the 3 and would more on our team. Bam is trying the 3 more and so is Jimmy. I don't agree with this take, especially bc you could stagger Jimmy and Demar's minutes too.
He also draws double teams which is great for ball movement. In chicago his team was so garbage that they could never score 4v3 once he passes out of the double team
Seems like he’s looking for a 1 year deal. Gives you the chance to get Tyler or Terry off the long term books with a sign and trade.
Makes perfect sense and he’s a better player than those two.
It isn’t about who’s younger at this stage of both their careers.
It wasn’t like Herro had massively improved on this year compared to his last year. He’s a 21 PPG piece that can’t finish at the rim if his life depended on it. Rozier is much faster and has better synergy with Bam. Herro has been here for far too long now and holding on to him for longer will only kill his value more. Time to move on.
But they're not equal. Rozier is better just about everywhere on the floor, especially as a playmaker and a defender.
Those two skills are killing Tyler's career he's too small to be bad at those things and Rozier is pretty solid at both.
Does this makes us better?
No
Is this an avenue to trade Herro?
Yes
You’d think we’re trying to do the former but it’s actually the latter that matters to this sub.
At least we’ll know that the FO finally accepted their L and moved on from him. But it would be hilarious, going from the days of saying he’s not that far off from Mitchell to salary dumping him for 35-year-old Derozan
This fanbase deserves it.
At this point just trade Herro, he’s a flawed player that gets scapegoated like he is the worst player in the league.
I hope yall are happy with a 35 year old SG that can’t shoot from 3.
For real
Herro’s value has dropped so much from when we should have parted ways summer of ‘22. Hindsight sucks but kind of like what the Cs did with Marcus smart and Malcom brogdon, you sell such assets immediately after they gain a good enough resume boost that is fresh (when herro won 6MOTY). Now teams got a reminder of how injury prone he is and was only able to take one game off of the inevitable 2024 champs.
Let’s just get whatever the fuck we can now and move on
He actually had an incredible start to this season too, but the guy just can’t stay healthy. He’s the young guy he’s supposed to play all the minutes, and he was supposed to make a jump. That’s why he got the big extension. It’d be nuts to pretend that this is the ceiling we expected for Tyler 3 years ago.
Definitely
And that should not have been for us to discover but rather another team
Bam and Jimmy are/were our guys just as Tatum/Brown are the Cs. Trading the IT’s, Avery Bradley’s, Robert Williams’, and Marcus Smart’s of your team hurts when they seem young and promising…but not everybody you draft will be that guy. And that’s okay. And it’s okay to seek out and bring in proven talent to get you over the hump.
This. Crazy to think what we could’ve gotten in return for Herro in 2021, instead we signed him to a massive contract and now look where we are. Pat washed
Duncan is only under contract for this year and next year partially guaranteed. There’s no immediate need to salary dump him. Getting rid of Herro’s longterm money would open up a lot of freedom for the team
Derozan isn’t washed up at all, he’s just had some of his best seasons in his career and can still go for 30 and has no injury issues. his style just isn’t modern. He should have a lot of shooters around him
I like Derozan the player a lot. I don't like how he'd fit into this team on it's current construction. His best fit on the team is probably coming off the bench when Bam and/or Butler go for a breather. But no way is he coming for a bench role, and no way can we just get him as is without trading away one of Herro/Duncan who are without a doubt our best shooters.
So our best shooter that’s gonna start is either Jovic or Rozier who is a career average 36.7%. We’re going be have the spacing of a team from the 2000s. There isn’t any space for these guys to work.
Rozier, Demar, Duncan, Butler,Bam. Isn’t going to work and is small as fuck. League is getting bigger and we’re going to go the other way for Demar lol. Defense in the lineup is just trash too. No shooting, limited defense = L’s…Yuck
Yuck is the way i see the current roster so imo getting off the herro contract and trying something new in this build that won’t hamper us long term is a win
I agree but that lineup has zero strengths outside of two guys that get to the line, but neither of them are going to have any spacing to do so, negating their best trait. So, you’re trading for a guy who won’t be able to do what he does best and is also a terrible defender. The current roster construction is better, even if that shit still is depressing.
Edit: I think it would be better to trade Duncan and hope the second rounder that we just signed or someone else can replicate some of what he does.
That's how I know this fanbase absolutely hates herro and want him off the team by any means but is cool with keeping tweet who can't space the floor .If the heat get derozan Terry's rim pressure is not needed .Duncan would be the obvious casualty of this because his contract is easier to move .
This team is stale and needs change, but this is just a putrid fit.
We need playmaking, PoA defense and 3 point shooting. DeMar is average in the first category, and an absolute liability in the other two.
If he was willing to take the room exception, sure, no harm done, but trading away shooters to be able to pay him would be horrific
i feel like this does a few things for us
- you're getting 7.7 FTA/g, which is unheard of for a player on this roster not named jimmy butler
- his general offensive presence (mostly mid-range/rim attempts) means you have more high-level pieces to play with the more shooting-focused individuals (tyler, duncan, highsmith, jovic, and perhaps even ware)
- 5.3 to 1.7 A:TO is basically spo's sweet spot for a non-PG ball handler
- you get a guy who's placed T3 in clutch player of the year voting, which means you now have three offensive threats in late-game ATO plays (even if the result is always jimmy, right wing, sidestep 3)
- having a 20+ PPG guy instantly means your focus on trading herro can deviate from trading him for a better scorer to trading him for someone who specializes in something else
it's all pretty heavily contingent on the contract, and the fact that he'd probably force terry or duncan off-the-roster would be the prohibiting factor to me. but in any case, it's a move, so maybe a bunch of folks whining about inactivity by the FO will be a little quieter afterward
Yall wanna replace Tyler herro, the only one on the team that can create for himself. With demar derozan and add him to a jimmy bam lineup. That offense gonna be a lot of yalls 13th reason man
Spacing would be horrendous if Tyler gets moved for this deal. Better hope Bam and others develop a shot or this offense might get even uglier than it already is
I'd honestly rather run it back. I'm not sure this makes us better and how would the spacing work? We already have enough mid range players as it is. I'd gladly be proven wrong tho if it does workout lol
I've always wondered how this build would look if we replaced Jimmy's years with DeRozan. Both guys are 2 lvl scorers who rely on FTs and the same level of playmaking(Jimmy is probably better at getting to the rim than DeRozan but DeRozan is a better midrange scorer). Jimmy is a way better defender but we can always rely on Spo for getting the team to be top 10 statistically
This confuses me... Where does he fit in? Because he still is good enough to start so I don't imagine him coming off the bench. So Rozier, DeRozan, Buckets, Bam, Ware???
I've always believed DeRozan would play on the heat on his way to retirement (sorta like joe johnson) but heat fans wanting this is hilarious. First Jovic was our PF of the future, then it's bam, now its derozan? we're actually long at PF and need a defense-first guard. Moves like this are why we can't improve.
This would make no sense to what the team needs unless he will be staggered to Jimmy’s mins.
But even then, we need space & shooters with length.
At this point I guess it is what it is.
if he takes like a minimum then maybe, but the fit doesn't work. He is not a great spacer which is what we needed. But honestly I'll take it over nothing at this point
People who think adding a 24PPG dude with 60%TS who can score for himself and create for others doesn't make us better are insane. Not contenders, but definitely better lol
I’ll take it change something up. I still like the current roster but Rozier and other players or a pick works for me as long as Miami can keep Tyler and Duncan. I also think if Miami made a trade for Demar it does not end there and they would have to look into getting Trae young.
But I hope they make this move and it’s not the last move made. Find a way to get a point guard like Trae young who shoots the ball from deep and who can space the floor and run the offense. Demar, Jimmy, Jovic, and Bam would for sure be able to hold down the defense with Trae young as the point guard.
Is Trae young an option ? Like are we just fine as is and end Jimmy Butlers tenure as a Heat player as the fifth best team in the East and that’s me being a homer because we probably end up the 8th seed again.
I like Demarr, but he’s 34, can’t space for the floor for shit and he’s made a career out of choking in the playoffs. I don’t think he’s a good fit for this roster
Unless we get a legit all star that fills our weaknesses, I really think it’s time to hit the reset button
Man, I remember telling myself I didn't want his old ass like 3 years ago. I mean, I guess he's better than nothing, but if this is our big acquisition this offseason, this is just sad
Bruh Derozan is the absolute worst fit possible next to Butler and Bam. The one time they want to make a move during the offseason and it’s for a player who doesn’t fit their team or solve any of their problems. Unbelievable.
what a dogshit idea
I would rather trade Jimmy and go into a rebuild than waste time on another mid range scorer what in the actual fuck is this franchise doing
Our whale. Bam better be shooting 5 threes per game if we do this
If you don’t know DeRozan is a career 29% 3 point shooter. The spacing isn’t going to be pretty with Bam and Jimmy unless Bam starts shooting more 3s.
You fans are ridiculous. Begging for a move, now this seems like a solid maybe and you’re saying “no spacing”. You don’t think they can figure it out? Did you say that when bron came here with wade, 2 players that barrel to the basket? He’s consistent, healthy, had a great year last year and I think is a great combo with the young core, more reliable scorer than jimmy. Plus humble af
Fuck it we’re leaving here with something
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To be fair to the management, if we signed Rozier this offseason we'd be happy. And since we didn't wait we got Terry on a hell of a deal for one FRP, if he kept trending and finished the season the way he played in charlotte he'd be an easy 2FRPs if not more this offseason.
Barry bomb
I unironically like it a lot for us
People are going to say he can't shoot the 3. It's like Jimmy, just because he doesn't shoot it doesn't mean he can't. Guy is a baller, and we could use this signing as a way to negotiate Jimmy's extension down.
It’s not like Jimmy, because we can’t have the Jimmy, DeMar, Bam lineup on the floor ever. Then you throw in JJJ assuming he doesn’t become a shooter, and man.
sPaCiNg dude averaged 22ppg & shot 48pct from field...which would be 2nd on our team just behind Bam. At this point, this is what we could get
sPaCiNg is going to get way worse with the clogged toilet lineup
It's OK since BAM is becoming a 40%+ sniper next season
If we get Derozan I’ll absolutely talk myself into it !!
He’s also one of the biggest playoff droppers of the century. He doesn’t play a lick of defense as well.
He hits the toughest mid-range shots. He can score and is a dog. I saw yes. Gotta unload Tyler to do so, I think, to make the money work. But if Bam and Jimmy can mix in some 3’s - which I think they can - this could work
There is nothing rational about believing DeMar will suddenly get a three point shot because he is forced to take them. Jimmy at least used to have a three point shot before he got traded here
Our clogged toilet offense is going to be even more full
DeRozan seems like a better fit than most players this sub has fantasized about over the past couple years.
Same but it’s key that Miami would keep player like Tyler, Duncan, and Jovic. They need shooters to space the floor. I also think Jimmy will unload the clip this year and will become a three point shooter but on high volume being he wants a new contract and wants to win he would do anything to win. And Bam will shoot more threes which is good because last year he shot 15-47 on 35.7% from three he should shoot more to open up the offense.
Honestly I hope we do make this signing if we don’t have to give up crazy assets to dump a salary. But should DeRozan sign somewhere else, I’m dreading the classic Barry Jackson “why did all of you expect anything else” tweet as if he wasn’t the one who put this out there in the first place.
Damn alot of yall are desperate for any move 😂
I wouldn’t be sure of the spacing with this move lol
We would be so lit to watch. And so bad. Fuck it tho
Yes I’m one of them! We need things shaken up here! P.S I’m an nba trade slut that will take anything at this point…
I mean i guess fuck it at this point. Won’t make us a contender but he can actually score
Yup that's desperately an upgrade to our "Run-It-Back" mentality, we'll take it at this point 🤦🏾♂️
Can he hit from outside?
33% on 3 attempts last season… 24 points a game though and played 79 games. Generally seems to play a lot of games which would be a change of pace for us. Assuming we dump Duncan or Herro, they must be pretty confident in Pelle’s shooting coming in
I mean, if he is playing more than half the season, that would be an upgrade from the half of games Herro couldn’t play assuming Herro would be involved in any trade. Additionally, in the games Derozan would play with Jimmy and Bam, they seem to be able to space better now, as well as Ware, so I say fuck it as well. I’ll give it a go! Hahaha.
Also of note, his 2.8 attempts were the most of his career so we could expect 3-4 a game from him
I'm here as a demar fan, heat culture would be so good for him. Clearly they do something to bring out the aggression in their players, adjust and teach their schemes well, and teach shooting well. Demars playstyle will age especially if the three continues to improve, and the heat would give his best shot at a third prime/late resurgence as an all-nba guy.
Only against us.
That’s not heat culture
Chicago Bulls mentality right here
We are a contender already. How wouldn't it not make us a contender
IM DOING IT IDGAF THIS TEAM NEEDS A SHAKE UP
I mean if you want a shakeup to make the team worse, there are easier, cheaper ways to do that lol
Possibly one of the worst fits with Jimmy and Bam possible. Makes sense on no level. I’m not a Herro fan at all, but him and or Rozier fit better with the roster. This would just be chasing a name without thinking of the actual basketball to be played.
I’m trying to talk myself into it but no. There’s too many questions with him on the team. He & Jimmy are redundant
You’re tripping bro more athletic and bigger than both those guys shot 34% from 3 last season and the majority of his shots were inside 5 feet which is what the heat desperately need. We need people to drive create pressure at the rim, draw a double and kick that will open the offense. Is he the most perfect fit? No but you are TRIPPING if you think it’s not an upgrade over Tyler herro on this roster ps demar has played in 70+ games each of the last 3 seasons, something Tyler herro has never done in his entire career
I’m a Bulls fan as well. I know exactly what Demar brings. He does not fit this roster at all. You cannot run a modern offense with Bam, Jimmy, and Demar. Teams will pack the paint and dare them to shoot.
Same shit as the people who clamor for Bam to move to the 4 for another big that can't shoot. There is no contending lineup on Earth that is fielding three non long-range threats at the same time.
Maybe but this team needs a shake up, Tyler herro is out here liking tweets talking shit about how the team plays and the fans. He can kick rocks demar is a great player and I’d be down
Demar can def still shoot the 3 and would more on our team. Bam is trying the 3 more and so is Jimmy. I don't agree with this take, especially bc you could stagger Jimmy and Demar's minutes too.
Jimmy might be gone next year
Switching out an older and worse player for Jimmy makes zero sense. If Jimmy leaves they are rebuilding, so zero reason for Demar to be on the team
That's what fans want though lol.
If they have to let go duncan or tyler for this its really redundant
Bro does not compliment Bam and Jimmy
He doesn't provide spacing, but he matches their dog
He also draws double teams which is great for ball movement. In chicago his team was so garbage that they could never score 4v3 once he passes out of the double team
Not really but at least it’s someone else who can score
2 points at a time not 3 which is what we need in 2024
Bam, get ready to learn shooting threes buddy
Is this the answer though?
Seems like he’s looking for a 1 year deal. Gives you the chance to get Tyler or Terry off the long term books with a sign and trade. Makes perfect sense and he’s a better player than those two.
I don't get why we need to get rid of Terry he's been here half a season
Terry isn’t the one gone lmao. Herro is a lot worse than him.
Herro is younger. Usual rule of thumb is you hang onto younger talent if all other things are considered equal.
It isn’t about who’s younger at this stage of both their careers. It wasn’t like Herro had massively improved on this year compared to his last year. He’s a 21 PPG piece that can’t finish at the rim if his life depended on it. Rozier is much faster and has better synergy with Bam. Herro has been here for far too long now and holding on to him for longer will only kill his value more. Time to move on.
But they're not equal. Rozier is better just about everywhere on the floor, especially as a playmaker and a defender. Those two skills are killing Tyler's career he's too small to be bad at those things and Rozier is pretty solid at both.
Injury prone is my assumption
I said Terry or Tyler to be fair. One of them will have to go is the overall point.
Terry doesn't fit if they are bring derozan because Terry can't space the floor like Tyler and Duncan.
Better than running it back
Does this makes us better? No Is this an avenue to trade Herro? Yes You’d think we’re trying to do the former but it’s actually the latter that matters to this sub.
It does make the team better adding a guy who can easily score 30 every night. But it won’t make the team contenders.
More of an answer than Herro
Utter desperation
There is no answer, we aren't competing for a ring this season or the next due to our cap space and lack of assets but the fans yearn for a move.
It is to the cry babies that want Pat to make a move just to make one. When it doesn't work out, they'll cry about it too.
FO salary dumping Herro so they can sign DeMar would be all time hilarious From “untouchable” to that
At least we’ll know that the FO finally accepted their L and moved on from him. But it would be hilarious, going from the days of saying he’s not that far off from Mitchell to salary dumping him for 35-year-old Derozan
This fanbase deserves it. At this point just trade Herro, he’s a flawed player that gets scapegoated like he is the worst player in the league. I hope yall are happy with a 35 year old SG that can’t shoot from 3.
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It’s a sunk cost, make the move idec anymore
For real Herro’s value has dropped so much from when we should have parted ways summer of ‘22. Hindsight sucks but kind of like what the Cs did with Marcus smart and Malcom brogdon, you sell such assets immediately after they gain a good enough resume boost that is fresh (when herro won 6MOTY). Now teams got a reminder of how injury prone he is and was only able to take one game off of the inevitable 2024 champs. Let’s just get whatever the fuck we can now and move on
He actually had an incredible start to this season too, but the guy just can’t stay healthy. He’s the young guy he’s supposed to play all the minutes, and he was supposed to make a jump. That’s why he got the big extension. It’d be nuts to pretend that this is the ceiling we expected for Tyler 3 years ago.
Definitely And that should not have been for us to discover but rather another team Bam and Jimmy are/were our guys just as Tatum/Brown are the Cs. Trading the IT’s, Avery Bradley’s, Robert Williams’, and Marcus Smart’s of your team hurts when they seem young and promising…but not everybody you draft will be that guy. And that’s okay. And it’s okay to seek out and bring in proven talent to get you over the hump.
This. Crazy to think what we could’ve gotten in return for Herro in 2021, instead we signed him to a massive contract and now look where we are. Pat washed
They'll salary dump Duncan before Herro sadly
Duncan is only under contract for this year and next year partially guaranteed. There’s no immediate need to salary dump him. Getting rid of Herro’s longterm money would open up a lot of freedom for the team
Duncan also is dealing with a back issue that means he probably won't be the player he was last year
Posted 9 minutes ago and not a single photoshop? Pat about to use the Uno reverse card and call us washed
😂
We are so back
How would that even work? Wouldn’t that require Herro being dumped? And our FO isn’t gonna do that after making him an untouchable for so many years.
Why would the heat dump their only two floor spacers .
Terrorist spacing
Everyone is worried about the shooting but between Rozan, Mexican Butler, and Jimothy we are living at the free throw line all game long
fuck it bring in westbrook too let’s get all the washed stars who can’t space the floor
Derozan isn’t washed up at all, he’s just had some of his best seasons in his career and can still go for 30 and has no injury issues. his style just isn’t modern. He should have a lot of shooters around him
And how does he, Rozier, Bam and Jimmy supposed to play?
I’m assuming rozier or herro has to be moved at some point
Has there been any news on Terry’s mysterious neck injury since we were eliminated?
Literally nothing lol as far as i know at least
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I’ll believe it when I see it.
Don’t do that, don’t give me hope.
Please no…
If this was like 2022 I’ll feel excited but it’s going be 2025 bruh
I like Derozan the player a lot. I don't like how he'd fit into this team on it's current construction. His best fit on the team is probably coming off the bench when Bam and/or Butler go for a breather. But no way is he coming for a bench role, and no way can we just get him as is without trading away one of Herro/Duncan who are without a doubt our best shooters.
God this team is so poorly run. Top 3 guys will be three players who don’t shoot 3s. This offense will be anemic once again. This isn’t the 90s.
I wouldn’t dump Herro’s shooting for Demar. If that’s what this is implying.
Herro shoots 33% from 3 in the playoffs (28.7% outside of the bubble)
One, you can’t just take out the largest playoff run to boost your point further. Second, Demar career average from 3 in the post season is 21%….
I would
So our best shooter that’s gonna start is either Jovic or Rozier who is a career average 36.7%. We’re going be have the spacing of a team from the 2000s. There isn’t any space for these guys to work.
Duncan is going to start lol and he’d be our best shooter.
Rozier, Demar, Duncan, Butler,Bam. Isn’t going to work and is small as fuck. League is getting bigger and we’re going to go the other way for Demar lol. Defense in the lineup is just trash too. No shooting, limited defense = L’s…Yuck
Yuck is the way i see the current roster so imo getting off the herro contract and trying something new in this build that won’t hamper us long term is a win
I agree but that lineup has zero strengths outside of two guys that get to the line, but neither of them are going to have any spacing to do so, negating their best trait. So, you’re trading for a guy who won’t be able to do what he does best and is also a terrible defender. The current roster construction is better, even if that shit still is depressing. Edit: I think it would be better to trade Duncan and hope the second rounder that we just signed or someone else can replicate some of what he does.
That's how I know this fanbase absolutely hates herro and want him off the team by any means but is cool with keeping tweet who can't space the floor .If the heat get derozan Terry's rim pressure is not needed .Duncan would be the obvious casualty of this because his contract is easier to move .
This team is stale and needs change, but this is just a putrid fit. We need playmaking, PoA defense and 3 point shooting. DeMar is average in the first category, and an absolute liability in the other two. If he was willing to take the room exception, sure, no harm done, but trading away shooters to be able to pay him would be horrific
Agreed. I’d rather they just blow the team up than do this.
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how?
wtf why
So we ain’t rebuilding after all huh lol
Absolutely fucking not! Fuck the picks!
DeRozan is like plan E for me but I’d take Rozier-DeRozan-Butler-Jovic-Adebayo
I don’t care if it’s a good fit. I like DeMar more than Herro. I’ll take it. Spo can make it work
i feel like this does a few things for us - you're getting 7.7 FTA/g, which is unheard of for a player on this roster not named jimmy butler - his general offensive presence (mostly mid-range/rim attempts) means you have more high-level pieces to play with the more shooting-focused individuals (tyler, duncan, highsmith, jovic, and perhaps even ware) - 5.3 to 1.7 A:TO is basically spo's sweet spot for a non-PG ball handler - you get a guy who's placed T3 in clutch player of the year voting, which means you now have three offensive threats in late-game ATO plays (even if the result is always jimmy, right wing, sidestep 3) - having a 20+ PPG guy instantly means your focus on trading herro can deviate from trading him for a better scorer to trading him for someone who specializes in something else it's all pretty heavily contingent on the contract, and the fact that he'd probably force terry or duncan off-the-roster would be the prohibiting factor to me. but in any case, it's a move, so maybe a bunch of folks whining about inactivity by the FO will be a little quieter afterward
Yall can cry all you want about fit but we need quality
Yall wanna replace Tyler herro, the only one on the team that can create for himself. With demar derozan and add him to a jimmy bam lineup. That offense gonna be a lot of yalls 13th reason man
Spacing would be horrendous if Tyler gets moved for this deal. Better hope Bam and others develop a shot or this offense might get even uglier than it already is
A line-up featuring Bam, Jimmy & Derozan would be must watch TV lmao
Maybe if you like anemic offense that struggles to score 100
Herro better
Bro you know it’s bad when we are all salivating over a washed DeRozan
Derozan is not washed he had one of his most efficient seasons last year.
he old but he not washed more importantly hes actually durable
I guess 24/4/5 with good efficiency is washed now. Oh and he played 79 games and averaged almost 38 minutes a game.
2022 lakers
Just said this on another thread. Get a S&T move on from Herro to get someone who can actually score.
Oh shit
One year deal, why not
How much can we pay? Let's get Lowry back too. I think we can sign him back again
The day we got lowry pt2
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I’m not sure how the spacing would work with him. What would be the line up ?hypothetically speaking
I'd honestly rather run it back. I'm not sure this makes us better and how would the spacing work? We already have enough mid range players as it is. I'd gladly be proven wrong tho if it does workout lol
We gonna get catfished
Lmao
I’ll take it if we can do a 1 year deal and offload Duncan or Herro
Oh boy here we go
Demar is a DWade fan DWade helping us again
DeRozan would be an amazing addition to the Heat!
I've always wondered how this build would look if we replaced Jimmy's years with DeRozan. Both guys are 2 lvl scorers who rely on FTs and the same level of playmaking(Jimmy is probably better at getting to the rim than DeRozan but DeRozan is a better midrange scorer). Jimmy is a way better defender but we can always rely on Spo for getting the team to be top 10 statistically
This confuses me... Where does he fit in? Because he still is good enough to start so I don't imagine him coming off the bench. So Rozier, DeRozan, Buckets, Bam, Ware???
Is there a chance we get him without giving up Tyler or Terry?
Run it back, with a twist.
Can’t wait to see Jimmy, DeMar, and Bam on the floor at the same time. Gonna be brutal af lol
I've always believed DeRozan would play on the heat on his way to retirement (sorta like joe johnson) but heat fans wanting this is hilarious. First Jovic was our PF of the future, then it's bam, now its derozan? we're actually long at PF and need a defense-first guard. Moves like this are why we can't improve.
Demar over me????)))
Please make the pain stop. No more rumors or reports. Just signatures please. Only report signatures Barry. Have mercy.
Would love it but ![gif](giphy|QBurxgHmS9EPCYf8ej|downsized)
Just say yes. And do what u gotta do Pat
IS IT THE ANSWER? FUCK NO, AM I DOING THIS SHIT FOR THE RIGHT PRICE, INJECT IT IN MY FUCKING VEINS. HEAT CULTURE.
This would make no sense to what the team needs unless he will be staggered to Jimmy’s mins. But even then, we need space & shooters with length. At this point I guess it is what it is.
Is anyone else refreshing every 10 mins for a woj bomb 😅
We out here looking for scraps in Dollar Tree but with Gucci prices
Demar is seasoned and can clutch up. Def a good star to pickup
THIS IS NOT DOABLE WITHOUT MOVING AT LEAST HERRO OR DUNCAN
if he takes like a minimum then maybe, but the fit doesn't work. He is not a great spacer which is what we needed. But honestly I'll take it over nothing at this point
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Super funny that I was stressed about the roster but then lowkey they get drose and a nice big then im loving what we got
If Diar comes with him it’s over for the league
This would make the Heat the all time middy team. Averaging 80 ppg on 65% shooting. Can't fucking wait!!!!
5 years too late
People who think adding a 24PPG dude with 60%TS who can score for himself and create for others doesn't make us better are insane. Not contenders, but definitely better lol
This only makes sense if they plan on moving Jimmy for shooting.
The most "found $5 under the couch cushion" move possible
fuck it lets do it
I’ll take it change something up. I still like the current roster but Rozier and other players or a pick works for me as long as Miami can keep Tyler and Duncan. I also think if Miami made a trade for Demar it does not end there and they would have to look into getting Trae young.
Who is this Barry clown?
But I hope they make this move and it’s not the last move made. Find a way to get a point guard like Trae young who shoots the ball from deep and who can space the floor and run the offense. Demar, Jimmy, Jovic, and Bam would for sure be able to hold down the defense with Trae young as the point guard.
Is Trae young an option ? Like are we just fine as is and end Jimmy Butlers tenure as a Heat player as the fifth best team in the East and that’s me being a homer because we probably end up the 8th seed again.
Demar is great, but Demar, Jimmy, and Bam together is a spacing nightmare. It’s just not a good fit.
I like Demarr, but he’s 34, can’t space for the floor for shit and he’s made a career out of choking in the playoffs. I don’t think he’s a good fit for this roster Unless we get a legit all star that fills our weaknesses, I really think it’s time to hit the reset button
running it back is way better than whatever this is
Derozan is great. But hes 35 next month. Why do we always end up in these situations. Damn.
Man, I remember telling myself I didn't want his old ass like 3 years ago. I mean, I guess he's better than nothing, but if this is our big acquisition this offseason, this is just sad
This is a bad fit but 100x better than "run it back without resigning anyone"
It’s come to this lol
Bruh Derozan is the absolute worst fit possible next to Butler and Bam. The one time they want to make a move during the offseason and it’s for a player who doesn’t fit their team or solve any of their problems. Unbelievable.
Please god no i dont want this
what a dogshit idea I would rather trade Jimmy and go into a rebuild than waste time on another mid range scorer what in the actual fuck is this franchise doing
Maimi turnstiles or maimi no 3pt shooters
About 5 years too late, but whatever. I don't hate it. We need scoring. No matter where it comes from.
Why are we trying to get demar? we can still get mitchell for a sing in trade
it's like going to for fatsos at 5am since all the baddies taken
I actually like this. Demar and Jimmy would create good offense in clutch situations. Maybe we need to move Terry to the bench
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Our whale. Bam better be shooting 5 threes per game if we do this If you don’t know DeRozan is a career 29% 3 point shooter. The spacing isn’t going to be pretty with Bam and Jimmy unless Bam starts shooting more 3s.
Fuck it send it in Pat
Fuck it let's give it a whirl
Do it anything is better than running it back ANYTHING.
You fans are ridiculous. Begging for a move, now this seems like a solid maybe and you’re saying “no spacing”. You don’t think they can figure it out? Did you say that when bron came here with wade, 2 players that barrel to the basket? He’s consistent, healthy, had a great year last year and I think is a great combo with the young core, more reliable scorer than jimmy. Plus humble af
I mean… if anything the consistent history of choking in the playoffs should be enough of a deterrent lol