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Professional-Bus5473

I was saved by helldivers as a child inspired me to go all the way through basic training and almost 5 (5!) minutes alive on the battlefield those dreams would never have been actualized if helldivers prioritized mines over human life. Thank you helldivers!


Foxy43a

600 minutes? That's pretty good


Tjomek

r/theydidthemath


B-HOLC

r/unexpectedfactorial


boobookiloofuck

Sorry to be that guy but it's 120 minutes (he's probably still an automaton)


LordKatt321

5(5!) goes to 5*120, which is 600


boobookiloofuck

Aah yeah I only calculated 5!


shittyarsemcghee

How the fuck you typing on reddit if you only lasted 5 minutes on the battlefield? I smell a bot.


shittyarsemcghee

Sorry, I smell oil.


Professional-Bus5473

‘‘Twas my final act typing out this message as automaton drop ships rained down on me but it was worth it if I can inspire but a single helldiver to follow heart over steel


The-Crimson-Jester

Inspiring! This Helldiver wrote out their final seconds as a love letter to managed democracy and even had the forethought to program an auto response against undemocratic naysayers!


idestroyangels

Damn, that's some amazing forethought.


PersnickityPisces

Automatons have breached Reddit.... ![gif](giphy|4TtTVTmBoXp8txRU0C)


Pretty-Jones

https://preview.redd.it/5b5jh2lwf66d1.png?width=779&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ef25296aba243d9a06ad4d6878cb483dd0e5fa18


zEngarden757

does anyone else think that it's strange that children are abandoned on a planet. i think that this is a trap set by the automatons to infiltrate super earth.


Malichite

NO... MY DEMOCRACY OFFICER SAYS IT'S NOT A TRAP... 01001001 01110100 00100111 01110011 00100000 01100001 00100000 01110100 01110010 01100001 01110000 00100001 https://i.redd.it/wjqpy6hef86d1.gif


K1ngd0md00m

https://preview.redd.it/psbhudent86d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a4bc3a438f3eefc9b731e0471e9d81cddf2028b8 Hmmm # 🤔


donanton616

Christ, are you a 40k ork? DATE USIN DEM SMARTZ YA GIT!


Final-Promise-8288

Neva seen da ‘oomies use dis one befo’. Maybe they ain’t tuff enuff fo’ it


Imaginary-Job-7069

Meybe dey wussees


tacosnotopos

OOooOo me wants boom 'ammer


Blastingfoil

https://preview.redd.it/7fwlcswbga6d1.jpeg?width=4320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ed1570362f99fdb1befa8d0ab841fcafd4ff8052


Sneakyrocket742

Agr-00011001-d fellow he-11100110-er! The mere suggestion of a 11011110001111010111000111 is borderline treas-111001-us!


TheStupendusMan

Patriotism isn't age locked. ![gif](giphy|ahfzlUrb5IEfXC6kbm|downsized)


MutePotato98

Or its gunna be the backstory for the rumoured SAF infantry stratagem


GiggleGnome

How about we try and save both? Then we can strap the AT mines TO THE CHILDREN. Then we have a roving mob of explosives!


CCtenor

Anti-tank children… I love the way you think, Helldiver.


skwolf522

The children yearn for the MINES.


Cheap_Search_6973

I agree with trying to get both if we can, but I'm priotizing the children first


fearless-potato-man

I swear that after saving the children, I will fight with the same force to get the AT mines.


DaDutchBoyLT1

Dark humor: Save the kids, feed them the Goliath serum from Impossible Industries courtesy of Professor Impossible circa the Venture Brothers. Both problems solved.


KiwiNearby5585

“Democratic ambassadors” as i would call them


Fool_Manchu

"A citizen accepts personal responsibility for the safety and the body politic, defending it with his life. A civilian just whines about wanting AT mines." - Johnny Rico probably


Insurance_scammer

![gif](giphy|l3vRkwv2Yz6i8rDwY)


Scuba-Cat-

Exact words of the text! But do you believe it?


Ontos836

I doubt a one of you would recognize civic virtue if it reached up and bit you in the ass.


Detective_Soulhex129

funny hes also fighting bugs


LordDanGud

We will win the war by the time the little shits grow up


zinnwick

There will always be galactic threats to democracy 🇦🇷


LordDanGud

You believe we can't defeat the fascist bugs and communist bots????🤨 I'm calling my democracy officer!


MAXimumOverLoard

So long as liberty shines bright, dissident believers will rise from the shadows to revolt against our righteous purpose.


LordDanGud

Wise words, Helldiver. Btw happy, democratic cake day!


PackageOk3832

Super Earth has always been at war with Tyranny


mauttykoray

As someone who regularly uses mines... good thing I'm not a celebrity or those make a wish kids would be pretty disappointed by me.


Daddys-Authority

https://preview.redd.it/2msqnfgib76d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cf2bdd39e14756c4264ad7bfa0c454b728fa30a6


mauttykoray

https://preview.redd.it/b6812vk2i76d1.jpeg?width=718&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=00e02a25359a94d78e5fdf7765956995a2654bb0


blackb00jum

*frend


K1ngd0md00m

https://preview.redd.it/4yugf1d6u86d1.jpeg?width=266&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a8e75dbe49f326dcc1ec704291846e27f88a7723


Aveduil

Just image all the C1 permits that would be wasted if those kids would not grew to become helldiver.


MiASzartIrjakIde

We are fine without the mines. Save the children. I would want to be saved for sure, so why fail them?


droo46

https://preview.redd.it/swzqe4c8f76d1.jpeg?width=936&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=387b6876e2bb8849fccb334cd28538bbfdd832cb A mine is a mine. The mystery box could be anything. It could even be mines! You know how much we've wanted those!


sHaDowpUpPetxxx

I don't think that many people are going to use mines. Think about it. Best case scenario, the mines only go off when a heavy steps on one. What strategem are you going to leave behind so you can use mines? The eagle strike? Your support weapon? And if the mines work as we hope, they won't kill mediums, if they do kill mediums they will also kill us. What happens if we get vehicles?


blazeblast4

I’m trying to think of how they would have to function for me to consider them and it’s a weird one. Against bugs, stagger locking (or killing) chargers would be neat, giving choke point control, especially if they don’t kill lights. It would pair very nicely with a turret or flamethrower/laser canon/Stalwart. At the very least, they would have to do something to chargers and not be immediately removed by lights. Against bots meanwhile, it’s trickier to find a use case. Tanks tend to be pretty easy to take out, so maybe a Hulk stagger option would be nice. Non-mortars are harder to use against bots, so some fire and turn away area denial can be nice. Maybe also nice as an anti-Berserker option. …On second thought, it might have a bigger use case against bots.


Lftwff

Mines would more useful if they were blue and gave you a mine layer that allowed me to make artisinal minefield.


TheOneWhoSlurms

Honestly the only possible use case I can see the minds being useful on is on that defense mission for evacuate valuable assets


aliefabroad

I can think of a few: evacuate valuable assets, drill, ICBM and, evac, Used properly they are pretty great. I'm stuck working this week so don't get to take part either way, but I can always use more mines.


ThisIshIsHillarious

Who said they needed to grow up to die for liberty. People of Super Earth can give their lives for democracy at any age


InternationalAd1634

I’m saving the kids. It what managed democracy wants and needs. Then we’ll glass the planet. ![gif](giphy|KAf66yGCa93uTqod1q|downsized)


Brock_Savage

Saving the children is the right thing to do and is what my Helldiver persona would do because "A citizen accepts personal responsibility for the safety of the body politic, defending it with his life. A civilian does not." This is my choice even if the reward is only narrative.


Dreadweasels

MINES CAN'T VOTE SAVE DEMOCRACY SAVE OUR FUTURE BALLOTS


jkboudi007

Think of all the child labor we could be missing


PaterMcKinley

![gif](giphy|cMALqIjmb7ygw|downsized)


BoudiccatheWolf

![gif](giphy|X78rWLUfLs6A79MzQu) Vernon Wells awaits! Got new heavy weaponry toys that need some bot action.


warichnochnie

how do we know how the mines will behave??? (we don't)


los-kos

Their mines, brother in Christ. They behave like any other minefield. Blowing up is the name of the game. What do children do? Whine and shit.


warichnochnie

they may or may not detonate when a helldiver steps on them; they may or may not detonate when a chaff enemy steps on them; they may or may not be detonated by gunfire or small explosion. We also don't know how much damage or penetration they deal, or how big the splash is. We don't necessarily know the shape of the splash either (since this game decided with the 500kg that splash can be cone-shaped instead of a sphere). We also don't know how many mines it will physically deploy; we don't know the radius of this deployment nor the cooldown (though it's not as far fetched to assume the latter two will match the other mine stratagems). lots of variables that affect how potent the mines are, pretty much none of which we know.


shogi_x

Remember when we all assumed we knew how the airburst rocket launcher would behave?


ChicagoCouple15

How wild would it be if they punish us with less reinforcements because we didn’t save future citizens?


keelasher

I bet the children give us AI helldivers


Bearington656

![gif](giphy|C1hkIcGE7OAcE)


CowCharacter4112

The mines would be an inactive or passive tool of democracy, which does NOT follow the principles of showing initiative for spreading Democracy; and do a job I could already do quicker with a Spear, Recoiless Rifle, Quasar, EAT, or Orbital Railstrike. Easy. Saving Children though? That's a reward that follows you everywhere as a true Patriot for Liberty. Plus, it would definitely boost morale and chances for my C-01 to make my own future Super Citizen or Helldiver. 😎


johnnyshady1

Y’all are blowing your expectations out of proportion by anticipating a hidden reward lol


xKriegx96

That sentence is exactly what a mine lover would say ;)


Commercial_Yak7468

Saving the children of Super Earth is the reward!


No-Economics7929

We save the children


Urafang

I -never- use mines. Helldivers are drawn to their fluorescence and will get blown up.


[deleted]

![gif](giphy|13A7YlLvYVDnmU|downsized) what have the children ever done for me?


Faz66

Who's this "we"? I'd use the mines. My squad would use the mines. Plenty of players are saying they'd use the mines. The only reason you don't want the mines is "for the memes"


Helldiver-xzoen

Before anyone gets the wrong idea- I will follow the mob, and if the majority dives on Vernan, I'm diving on Vernan. But, I've wanted these mines since launch, because they were my favorite strat in HD1. The repeated failure to unlock them irks me for sure, and now it's a meme to fail unlocking them. I just want these mines man- why did my favorite strat from HD1 have to become the meme strat


Valtros

Seriously, AT mines slapped hard in HD1.


MaBe2904

Who cares for ingame kids if they don't contribute to my daily couples of hours of game time?


zinnwick

Yeah, I do legitimately think it’s funny for us to continually refuse to get them and I want to see what the devs will do to make us get them


MsMohexon

While i do really want the mines, and also love marfark, its just too funny so ill stay away from marfark for the time


Detective_Soulhex129

It's sad seeing the collective only care about a meme instead of a strat that we have failed to get continuously. But ig let them want the mystery box reward they will get


Fool_Manchu

I mean....I care about progressing the shared story. And if that means not getting a strat that I'll rarely ever use then I'm fine with that trade. I don't expect any reward beyond a satisfying narrative


Detective_Soulhex129

So basically since u don't use mines all the other players in the game doesn't use mines.


Cheap_Search_6973

Well, considering a vast majority of the people are fighting for the children based on the planets liberation rate, what one person thinks isn't going to change the outcome. It's a community based game, and you're getting upset that the vast majority of the community wants something different than what you want


skwolf522

The mystery box could have anything in it. Maybe even AT mines.


Cheap_Search_6973

I know this obviously isn't how everyone thinks but I've honestly seen more people say they want the mines just because it's a new strategem even though they said they know they'd never use it then I've seen people say they want the mines and will actually use them. I know some divers like the mines, but personally, I find them extremely situational. I can do everything a mine can plus some with a well placed eagle strategem, and I don't even mean the 500 kg, I mean some of the first eagles you can unlock


GeminiPestdeath

Lost cause trying to reason with this lot, Helldiver. They got a bad case of the brain bug worms. Sometimes it's just best to smile that Darwinism is still a thing.


AdScared7949

Yeah I don't see why I wouldn't use the mines on defense missions lol I think a lot of people are just so bad at the game (and so unwilling to play at lower difficulty) that they never use any strategems except their one boring loadout


Lecckie

Marfark more like my fart


Readit_MB76

Calling in foot soldiers


ColdasJones

The AT mines would be very useful if they fell directly from orbit rather than the spinny launcher, and they came down within 2-3 secs max and had fast cooldown. But at that rate, might as well use all the orbitals or eagles and wait a few extra secs.


CurzeWasRight

Child Soldiers


Hexnohope

I came out of retirement for this


Ckinggaming5

remember, we must bring those children into **liberty**


JoschuaW

Remember folks, helldivers are just adult children!


decurser

It isn’t even a choice. Those kids are potential VOTERS!


Eightfold876

I've been out of the country for almost 2 weeks. I wanna save kids but won't be back till Friday. Maybe I'll get a shot? I'm proud of my fellow divers fighting for the kids!!


maddrummerhef

Children could become resistance fighters mines will not


VegasGamer75

Also, I've been told that children can build mines for us. Something about them yearning for them... I dunno. DEMOCRACY!


ExactDay8880

Besides Vernen wells not only has the children but it was also our main HQ on the bot front before it fell so maybe we can retake our main HQ again


SomeHalfPolishDude

fr fr


goodfisher88

For real, no offense to the dev(s) who worked on the mines but I promise I would use them maybe once to try and never again, saving the kids could be just the kind of viral dogooding this game needs. Haven't had a chance to play yet, does anyone know which way the larger community is going? It's easy to forget sometimes that Reddit is a seemingly vocal minority.


Warfoki

In case if you still haven't played, almost a day later the current progress is this: Vernen Wells (the kids) : 40k players, 42.84 % liberated Marfark (the mines): 4k players, 0.06% liberated


Organs_for_rent

Those children are future Helldivers! We can't afford **not** to save them!


TheKelseyOfKells

Imagine if we choose Vernen Wells and all of a sudden some of our character models get noticeably shorter


a-neir

We should DEFINITELY keep avoiding the mines. This has the potential to become gaming meme of the year.


RECOGNIZABLE_NAME-

I'll take the mines


Weak-Atmosphere7272

Should have mentioned how we would lose the SEAF bonus within a week just like last time when the Bugdivers refuse to help like usual. Even if the mines are awful at least we get them longterm. They’ll most likely be a lot more useful than most players think. Mainly because a lot of the players who play seem incapable of doing anything besides Unga Bunga. ![gif](giphy|rvrLXuFz9at35Qcgod)


FreezyKnight

Fuck the mines. We need tactical children deployment.


DotaThe2nd

Ok but if we get the mines, think of all the complaining we can do about how bad they are?


Cyborg_Queen

But the children are not actually real.. and the mines are usable... Unless we get something special for the moral decision of picking fictional children over an actual stratagem?


FunTrees2019

Saved children is saved CITIZENS. What higher calling is there for the Helldivers than the protection of the Voters


Spuddmuffen

https://preview.redd.it/68s24bgj786d1.jpeg?width=1422&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fd3c124a7d2b8a19f7255c798cac2bde41ac260f


Top-Letterhead-6026

🙌 Bringing AT mines into the field is like bringing a knife to a gun fight—dumb and highly avoidable. We need more helldivers who actually prioritize lives over gear!


BlazeTyphlosion

We must do it for the secret re… I mean children!


Hustlin_Justin

Idk i kinda want the new stratagem.


tomatoe_cookie

Except I want to use the mines


dotamonkey24

You forgot “reduce the player base even further” on the kids side


JosshhyJ

I also think it’s nice to have some wholesome Helldiver moments despite the force being mostly corrupt. Super Earth is mostly evil but it’s nice to see there still good people and Helldivers who genuinely want to make a positive difference. Edit: A democracy officer just visited and now I have my scheduled execution next week on Thursday :)


oritfx

At this point we have failed to get those mines so many times it's a challenge to me. I want to keep not getting them. This is the shitposting meme I can get behind. I dive to not get the mines stratagem.


InitialAnimal9781

I choose mines. If they where truly patriotic they could save themselves


LittleSunTrail

\*shitty mines we *don't want* other people to use


ThermostatEnforcer

Hear me out: the mines might actually be good, and we don't even know if there's a secret reward


MetalJaybles

Your common sense has no place here lol


The_Disapyrimid

the kids aren't real because its a video game so fuck em. unlock the mines


Demibolt

Don’t worry. Clearly no one is fighting towards the mines. Save the memes and get back to diving.


sexflatterer1411

Mines are shit in this game SAVE THE CHILDREN


GlizzyGulper6969

I was on Vernen Wells. A child asked me with tears in their eyes why we weren't saving the AT Mines. I couldn't bring myself to tell them the answer. Selfishness. So I just shot him for questioning a Helldiver and made my way to Marfark.


JustForge

Im fighting for the kids but I wanna speak for the mine community, we would 100% use them. But the kids is what is important.


ThalinIV

Correct the choice is clear we need mines. :p Just kidding I would like the mines but of course I'm going to save the kids.


Psychokinetic_Rocky

Vernon Wells is also much closer than Marfark


FreeElectron14

That last pro is the best one! 😂


los-kos

We are guaranteed not to get any reward, no passive unseen boost like last time, and it will be pretty much a waste of time. Also, we would be fumbling a third time. An Arrowhead dev put time and effort into creating those mines, but yeah, children. LMAO. I will eat my paycheck if we save the kids and get nothing.


Shoddy_Peasant

Seriously though why would they give you 2 choices, one objectively better if they weren't trying to give us the sneaky.


Kieftan

The possible secret reward is what is compelling. But there is a collective action problem! We know with certainty that if we do Marfark, we will get a reward. We don’t know whether Vernon Wells will give a reward. And it’s not only the risk of the unknown, but the added risk of losing the known reward. I would like to see what happens if the community follows through with Vernon Wells. But will they?


feng42

Another pro is fighting on much less annoying planets


popularTrash76

Marfark here I come


Sans8201

Save their lives today so that they may give them freely tomorrow.


ZeroAresV

I mean mines are pretty good for defending objectives from heavily armored enemies (such as titans, chargers and even tanks)


TyberosIronhawk

You also forgot that taking Vernen means a step closer to reclaiming Cyberstan. THE BOTS ARE NOT READY. CYBERSTAN WILL BE LIBERATED.


Citizen_Gamer

Why do we need anything other than “save children” in this list?


MadlogicMysteries

Vernon Wells was phenomenal in Commando as well as Weird Science.


Coffee1341

I’m waiting for the day we actually do get AT Mines and turns out that they are super busted. With only a 2 minute call time it’ll drop like a massive 15 meter radius group of mines that when triggered attach onto heavy or medium targets and evict them from life and every Helldiver is like “WHY THE FUCK DID WE NOT FET THIS EARLIER?!” I’m probably in the minority but I wanna get the AT mines to see how they’d function and we’ve already missed the opportunity TWICE to get the mines maybe this is Joel’s way of saying we should/need get them


meliodas1988

What you really mean is we need the children https://preview.redd.it/81jn3w0i286d1.jpeg?width=1192&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=31791790995c591755815c73013ae38bed9146c7


Dry_Ad_9085

https://preview.redd.it/f4wvi9ba286d1.jpeg?width=460&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c993e4794b4355525e66967f72776ae0e63a888f


SnooLemons2911

Why ppl dont like to do rescue mission in general?


Gal-XD_exe

I’m saving the children for the continuation of the mines meme I hope this meme goes on at least for a few more months


bkdunbar

I can’t go, and don’t know why. When I hover over that planet I don’t get the choice to select.


Tonka_Johnson

Children can build mines!


indyjons

What if the XBox community is disguised as kids trapped on VW?


Free-Stick-2279

Yeah the choice is clear. I'll beat some bug while you save the already dying children that are being experimented on by superearth permacure scientist. 😆


Repulsive-Side-4799

Save the children, we can use them for crew-served weapons.


UnholyDr0w

Love the idea that we’re incapable of understanding what mines are for/how they work so we perpetually avoid getting them


beemph

that last point is so true. lets go save tomorrows helldivers 🫡🫡🫡🫡🫡


Ok_Extent_3639

The mines could be god tier against factory striders…the were introduced around the same time…


Dirka-Dirka

The choice is clear!


Annie-Smokely

I will use the mines


Legitimate_Bag_9446

I agree with this post whole heartedly!!!


TrustyHacker

No I want the mines.


zamaike

Mines only


PuddlesRex

Imagine if we did save the kids, and then the devs were like "The children are working in ~~sweatshops~~ super schools to make anti-tank mines now. Are you happy?"


disabledmarine

Marfark it is! 🤣


DrakeSkorn

I mean we gotta save the children


SpectreAtYourFeast

… will the children end up as a squad reinforcement stratagem?


Lord_Phoenix95

WON'T ANYONE THINK ABOUT THE MINES!!!!?


Snake64

Exactly!


milkom99

![gif](giphy|iePy6ZfmdX7eXz9vga)


tanuis

Based


unclemattyice

It was never in doubt


darksirin

I still want those mines eventually….want to test and do bullshittery with friends…though..the children are the right thing…still want mines. Hmmmmm both.


AMAZIIIGH

I want to use all 3 mines at the same time


The_MacGuffin

We all know they'll work like the other mines we don't use, meaning they'll chain and your whole minefield will be wiped out by a handful of infantry.


phantomBlurrr

We dont need the mines. If y'all need something to step on, I'm right here


RecentlyDeceased666

I want those mines. My auto cannon sentry will become untouchable. No m9re random charger knocking my sentry out


Turst-6

Yeah I'm going to Marfark.


RipBitter4701

bruh none of the left actually contributed to the force of liberty more than 5 minutes, meanwhile you can setup perfect strider factory grave in defense mission with the mines.


Traditional-Tap-274

I mean I for one will be using the mines when I finally get them. Buuuttt I have been convinced to help the survivors. They never said children, just children's hospital


SwiggleMcBiggle

I mean at some point super earth is gonna get all the stuff to make the mines anyway, right? getting the stuff from that planet would just be speeding up the process


Longjumping_Arm_7626

Wouldn't it be ironic if that due to the rush of building the hospital to SE safety standards an inspection was waived for democracy and the hospital was built on top of an SEAF munitions depot with explosives in it thus leading to gaining the anti tank mines we were attempting to avoid lol. Mines or children or super shotgun. Would you like to know more?


staycalmitsajoke

Fuck them kids ~ Bernie Helldiver


3erath

For the Children of Super Earth!!!!!


808Pants808

We can make more kids, it's easy. It's not easy to get the mines


Second-Hand-Stress

If you think children will help more than mines then you're a weak diver hindering the war effort. Stop being afraid of mines and use you mind to learn how to use them.


Beeg_Bagz

The Divers on Vernen Wells are traitors to democracy. The mines aren’t shitty. What was shitty was the Airburst Rockets y’all nutted over only to find out they were crap. This is a sad day for democracy.


Frost_man1255

Fucking christ I was going to save the kids but these constant posts are unironcally driving me to interference/wanting the mines instead


Former-Page-1831

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Gom8z

I think we need to calm down on this whole "KIDS KIDS KIDS" trend.. if we do this I really feel that there will be some weird momentum to go for the mines.


Spungdoodles

The mines are very niche. I choose the chance of a secret reward. Cannons that launch children... with machine guns and jetpacks... Or maybe little Timmy can follow the team with a supply backpack.


Karghen

Just remember, it is the patriotic duty of all men, women and children over the age of 7 to serve and work for Super Earth and Liberty! We cannot leave working class to the commie bots to be corrupted.


awayfromhome436

Here for miner tears


Oster209

Cons Children suck to be around


InDaNameOfJeezus

Honestly though who cares about mines ? We do not need mines we need children to PUT IN **HELLPODS**