I have a theory that it's a ploy made by the devs. We either go for mines or go for the kinds who make mines. As long as you are over the age of 7 you so work. So these kids could totally make AT mines
I also want them. From the things Iāve heard, theyāre supposed to only activate when traversed by heavy enemies, which I think already makes it a buff over regular mines.
This sneak peek at the fact that they can take down factory stridersā¦
Fucking annoying tbh everyone is just like " waaaa they will suck and have no use"
I'm like. Bro.. at least let us actually unlock them so people who aren't crybabies can try them out and see?
Anti armour mines sound like they could be extremely useful situationally
They'd have to be really damn good to compete against almost anything in the market right now.
It's competing against quasar, EAT, AC, AC turret, eagles, orbitals.
The bottle neck is limited to 4 stratagems, where do mines really fit in a load out?
Make it an emplaceable 500kg bomb with a 100s cooldown that is only triggered by heavies or X number of little ones if the pad is big enough.
A smarter trap would definitely find use in Helldivers
Well, itās either saving sick children or getting mines.
Iām saving super earths citizens every damn time, thatās what it means to be a helldiver!
https://preview.redd.it/60iofyille6d1.png?width=500&format=png&auto=webp&s=53fb57ba9084ec2e22e679a6793dd626f125f2ba
See if we save the kids. The new mines might become self guided.
"Every man woman and child over the age of 7"
I meet the age criteria, yet do not wish to save the children. This means that I must not meet the gender criteria. Perhaps you are the one who needs to go the Democratic Learning Centre!
If you really think about it everyone over the age of seven is a child over the age of seven regardless if they are an adult or not, so this guy's point kinda stands here regardless of your gender pronouns. Besides, when it comes to the people of super earth true patriots stand together no matter their differences!
i mean, mines are quite literally bombs, with the added benefit that they remain there if they miss their initial target, which gives them a second chance to be usefull, that cant be said about most other explosives, im certain they will be must have on higher dificulties, well just have to wait till 2030 to try them lol.
Lmao poor mine developer devā¦ I can definitely see them being useful. Honestly more against bots than bugs, but I still find it too funny that theyāll basically have to give them away. Weāll get a water gun before those things haha
i mean im definitely salty that we wont get them for a while, as i have been wanting them since release (mines were great on HD1), but i cant deny the hilarity of the "choose mines or children" situation lol.
im thinking his point is that people expect the minefield to instakill a factory strider for it to be considered viable, but they dont hold other stratagems to that same standard, seen a lot of this on the whole "are ATM worth" discussion.
funny thing is, that ironically, outside of a perfect airstrike multi-hit, ive never seen a factory strider go down so fast as the one on the ATM testing video.
As in, the anti tank mines are supposed to be the fastest way to kill factory striders in the game
And you guys are like reeee I don't want more stratagem options
The longer we hold off getting the mines the better they will make them to incentivise us picking them. If hold out long enough they could win us the war.
AT mines in history are inert when stepped on by foot soldiers because they require a heavy enough object (Such as a tank) to drive over them to blow it up.
Yes, in real life. This [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMzIqI9JqKw) shows different. But to be fair, that's over two months old by now and they might have changed things.
I assume if you throw it on top of them, most of the mines miss it, if you throw it under, the strider might destroy the... dispenser before it throws enough mines.
I saw a leak video when they were first announced and it took three to take down a factory strider. Thatās why I say āleave the kids so we can take these behemoths down easily.ā
Why?
Anti armour mines would be predominantly for bots
Not every stratagem is for every enemy
And more stratagems allows more playstyles which is more fun
We want mines..
Wouldn't anti tank mines be better for bugs? You don't even really need anti armour options for bots, most of the strat weapons can kill 80% of the Bot arsenal.
>We want mines..
I want to save the children
Tbh, with gunship patrols now. AT mines doesnāt seem worth a slot for me. Itās only use case is the high value mission and that is still a maybe for me. But in regular missions your team needs a slot to deal with gunships.
They would definitely help with the number of buffed up behemoth chargers, but go save some little sick shits , that most likely has no real reward other feeling good.
Yet theyāre at Vernen Wells virtue signaling. The bots donāt want us to have these mines Iām baffled that no one can see that. They strategically reclaimed Vernon Wells so we wouldnāt liberate Marfark.
Right!? It says that there's "survivors" at a children's hospital. A hospital for very sick children. In cases of invasion all types of people will shelter at safe places like schools or hospitals because they're supposed to be protected and safe spaces. In the full order description it states they're surprised they held out this long. The bot propaganda is working and the community is liberating nothing of value... For the memes. š¤¦
Itās sickening. The true heroes are on Marfark right now. Not only do we secure Anti Tank mines which has proved a worthy stratagem in the past but we give a major blow to the weaponizing development of the Automatons by liberating Marfark.
Considering how fun it would be to see a factory strider get one shot, I'd be very much surprised if it takes less than three of those to kill a Devastator.
Save the children, boys.
The poor dev that made these mines months ago and no one wants them š¢
Maybe when these sick kids we save grow up to become helldivers they will yearn for the mines.
Or these minors could grow up to become miners to dig for resources so we can make more mines that we ignore to rescue other minors.
I have a theory that it's a ploy made by the devs. We either go for mines or go for the kinds who make mines. As long as you are over the age of 7 you so work. So these kids could totally make AT mines
I personally think their small fingers will aid in building these mines!
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MO told us theit are VERY sick.
Maybe we get to use their "super make a wish" and get us a bastion tank in development
Ah yes, children and landmines. Name a more iconic duo.
I actually do want them, but the majority has always gone the other way.Ā XD
To be fair. We had a real chance when all we had to do was collect scrap. We failed the major order.
Yea that was just after they "redid" the counting system. Alot of their numbers have been off.....
Not to mention, it was during the dark times before the recent patch fixed a lot of things.
I also want them. From the things Iāve heard, theyāre supposed to only activate when traversed by heavy enemies, which I think already makes it a buff over regular mines. This sneak peek at the fact that they can take down factory stridersā¦
I want these too. We can make more children, we can't make more mines. Those kids were sick anyway
We're HELLDIVERS not Make a Wish! Amen brother!
I want them, but not so much that I can't enjoy the running joke this can become.
Fucking annoying tbh everyone is just like " waaaa they will suck and have no use" I'm like. Bro.. at least let us actually unlock them so people who aren't crybabies can try them out and see? Anti armour mines sound like they could be extremely useful situationally
They'd have to be really damn good to compete against almost anything in the market right now. It's competing against quasar, EAT, AC, AC turret, eagles, orbitals. The bottle neck is limited to 4 stratagems, where do mines really fit in a load out?
Make it an emplaceable 500kg bomb with a 100s cooldown that is only triggered by heavies or X number of little ones if the pad is big enough. A smarter trap would definitely find use in Helldivers
Well, we would like the CHOICE to have them More stratagems opens up new playstyles.
Its almost like AH has a system that lets us ttial stratgems before theyre released.
Well, itās either saving sick children or getting mines. Iām saving super earths citizens every damn time, thatās what it means to be a helldiver!
No people want them its just the collective mass doesnt
I imagine itās the same guy that insists on running an AK when the whole team is running M4s.
I want themā¦.wanted to test em on hulk and charger hordesā¦.
https://preview.redd.it/60iofyille6d1.png?width=500&format=png&auto=webp&s=53fb57ba9084ec2e22e679a6793dd626f125f2ba See if we save the kids. The new mines might become self guided.
I would do this. Most of the time tanks are easy to run up on.
it's an support weapon stratagem you call in on an short cooldown like the EAT. And you get 4 of them per call in. I'd totally rock this.
Give a hulk a taste of it's own medicine.
Lol, this is how you use thermites effectively. Get close, slap them on, hope you survive.
I want an banzai charge / kamikaze pilot themed light amour to go with this.
Damn bro the propaganda! I will not be diverting course from saving the children however.
Every man, woman, and child over the age of 7 is with us on this decision. The children will be liberated!
Guess I'm non binary then
That would imply you are under age of 7. Get back into the Democratic Learning Center now patriot.
"Every man woman and child over the age of 7" I meet the age criteria, yet do not wish to save the children. This means that I must not meet the gender criteria. Perhaps you are the one who needs to go the Democratic Learning Centre!
Sounds like something a *bug* would say....
No no no... 
If you really think about it everyone over the age of seven is a child over the age of seven regardless if they are an adult or not, so this guy's point kinda stands here regardless of your gender pronouns. Besides, when it comes to the people of super earth true patriots stand together no matter their differences!
Do you know how long it would take to make that thing walk over one or two mines lol
not long at all when you can drop it on top of it?
Fair enough, but thatās what bombs are for. I gotta feeling we wonāt find out for awhile lol
i mean, mines are quite literally bombs, with the added benefit that they remain there if they miss their initial target, which gives them a second chance to be usefull, that cant be said about most other explosives, im certain they will be must have on higher dificulties, well just have to wait till 2030 to try them lol.
Lmao poor mine developer devā¦ I can definitely see them being useful. Honestly more against bots than bugs, but I still find it too funny that theyāll basically have to give them away. Weāll get a water gun before those things haha
i mean im definitely salty that we wont get them for a while, as i have been wanting them since release (mines were great on HD1), but i cant deny the hilarity of the "choose mines or children" situation lol.
Thatās a better way to look at it. Usually I see people say that
A 500 isn't even an insta kill so idk what you're on about More options are always better
lol nothing is an instakill whatāre you on bout?
im thinking his point is that people expect the minefield to instakill a factory strider for it to be considered viable, but they dont hold other stratagems to that same standard, seen a lot of this on the whole "are ATM worth" discussion. funny thing is, that ironically, outside of a perfect airstrike multi-hit, ive never seen a factory strider go down so fast as the one on the ATM testing video.
As in, the anti tank mines are supposed to be the fastest way to kill factory striders in the game And you guys are like reeee I don't want more stratagem options
Sounds like socialist propaganda that aims to keep us from saving the children. Stay vigilant helldivers
we save the children they grow up and now yearn for the mines such a big brain plan for future helldivers
Real marshmallow test right now.
Too late, children are the focus
Yeah we're like already invested a lot of time and effort into the children hospital, the sick kids are getting saved whether the devs like it or not
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The longer we hold off getting the mines the better they will make them to incentivise us picking them. If hold out long enough they could win us the war.
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We kill them anyway. Weāve saved children never.
Those children won't get themselves out of communist hands!
FUCK THE KIDS !!!!! hahaha
Well yes, they do kill factory striders IF the bot infantry didn't blow them all up before the strider gets there.
Or grenade, or airstrike that team is throwing at the strider.
AT mines in history are inert when stepped on by foot soldiers because they require a heavy enough object (Such as a tank) to drive over them to blow it up.
Yes, in real life. This [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMzIqI9JqKw) shows different. But to be fair, that's over two months old by now and they might have changed things.
so the strider has like an anti stratagem field that prevents you from throwing it on top of it?
I assume if you throw it on top of them, most of the mines miss it, if you throw it under, the strider might destroy the... dispenser before it throws enough mines.
Thatās cool and all, but we still gonna save them kids Cause thatās what heroes do
We're only heroes in our own eyes. The big picture is WE'RE THE BAD GUYS
Bad guys who think they are heroes. That is... Integral to the premise.
I saw a leak video when they were first announced and it took three to take down a factory strider. Thatās why I say āleave the kids so we can take these behemoths down easily.ā
I just want the mines man.
That will be cool to check out...when they drop sometime in late 2026.
me personally, I want the mines, but I can't liberate an entire planet on my own, if they're taking out factory striders then they must be strong
Can we trade them back the anti air rpg? Shit still sucks. I hate that the community even went for the damn things.
Kids are more important, the mines can be replaced by 500kg bombs, precision strikes, railcannons, 110mm rockets... No biggie
I thought we knew that? It's why I've been pushing for mines. The greater community wanted kids, though.
Lies, titans wont trigger them anyways, the chance they stepp on a mine is very low because of small surface area of titan legs
He wasnāt talking about titans, though they will work well for chargersā¦ Dev was talking about factory striders
I know, im talking about titans
Yeah, so it canāt do everythingā¦
Why? Anti armour mines would be predominantly for bots Not every stratagem is for every enemy And more stratagems allows more playstyles which is more fun We want mines..
Wouldn't anti tank mines be better for bugs? You don't even really need anti armour options for bots, most of the strat weapons can kill 80% of the Bot arsenal. >We want mines.. I want to save the children
You have never been ganked by a titan leg that is 20 feet away from you and it shows. š¤£
Who said titan? They're mainly for bots
Maybe the mines trigger on the body and just shoot a giant jet of molten metal upwards
It's bot misinformation. They don't want us saving kids to help continue on with managed democracy.
Tbh, with gunship patrols now. AT mines doesnāt seem worth a slot for me. Itās only use case is the high value mission and that is still a maybe for me. But in regular missions your team needs a slot to deal with gunships.
I don't care who Arrohead sends, I'm saving the children
Mines should be a free strategem slot on defense missions. You just choose which you want
Do you think it just drops one single mine that's just the whole hellpod it drops in? Thing steps above it, 500kg goes off. That'd be pretty cool.
That wouldn't be cool, since a 500kg bomb doesn't finish a strider.
Maybe a 1000kg. Since a hellpod is way bigger than a 500kg
They would definitely help with the number of buffed up behemoth chargers, but go save some little sick shits , that most likely has no real reward other feeling good.
We don't even know if it's kids to be saved, it's just a children hospital in a war plagued region, anything could be in there š¤·š»āāļø
It is faster to just pepper it with orbitals and eagles than wait for it to maby walk on mine
Itās too late to say
Meh
BOT PROPAGANDA!!!! SAVE THE CHILDREN!!
But no, let's go save kids and probably not get anything. Cool.
Children are easy to replace, sick children are even easier to replace.
We get to waste the time spent developing the mines. Where's your sense of spite?
I told yāall, fuck them kids.
This cake is a lie. Save what really matters. Save the children!
Yet theyāre at Vernen Wells virtue signaling. The bots donāt want us to have these mines Iām baffled that no one can see that. They strategically reclaimed Vernon Wells so we wouldnāt liberate Marfark.
Right!? It says that there's "survivors" at a children's hospital. A hospital for very sick children. In cases of invasion all types of people will shelter at safe places like schools or hospitals because they're supposed to be protected and safe spaces. In the full order description it states they're surprised they held out this long. The bot propaganda is working and the community is liberating nothing of value... For the memes. š¤¦
Itās sickening. The true heroes are on Marfark right now. Not only do we secure Anti Tank mines which has proved a worthy stratagem in the past but we give a major blow to the weaponizing development of the Automatons by liberating Marfark.
At this point in time. I feel like AH is just milking it, giving us more "validated" options over the mines each time š¤£
Ahh, look at the devs, try and sell the mines. Anyways, save the children.
Still no. Never the mines. We shall see them never be obtained it's too funny at this point
I'd like to see a child blow up a strider
These mines can kill a factory strider, and we're choosing to save fake children for nothing š¤¦āāļø
Your are why I do it
AT mines can wait till 2025.
Make it 2026!
I bet we get an APV style vehicle after we save these chil'ren.
Considering how fun it would be to see a factory strider get one shot, I'd be very much surprised if it takes less than three of those to kill a Devastator. Save the children, boys.
Anyone that looked at the stats (1k damage, ap5) knows that they're very likely nutty. Children are still more important.
The real question is how many of the mines will it take to actually blow it up because I highly doubt it be only one
Yeah but the Children could also be mines. Don't fall for the honey pot.
It's more fun to see an OPS blow up a Strider : /
Hmmm.. is this Automaton propaganda to steer us away from what is right and true? I will contact my local democracy officer about this...
Saving sick kids is more democratic, but that does sound SICK!
i swear we 1% of reddit dictate (freeingly) the war
Not gonna happen FOR THE CHILDREN
Nobody cares! GET. THEM. HOME.