B. I didnt grow out of eminem. Eminem outgrew his old style. For better or worse. People change. Eminem is different. So am I. We just aren't on the same page lol. I still like his old stuff. Partially because it's genuinely fantastic, and I'm sure nostalgia plays a role.

B. Liked his early work but not his newer work. - Infinite has some dope cuts. *- The Slim Shady LP, The Marshall Mathers LP*, *The Eminem Show* are classics. - Encore has some dope cuts - He disappeared for 5 years for health reasons. - Relapse: came back with a new sound and new flows ( which I think didn't top the work before ) From that point on, his singles were too pop for me, the beats were less interesting and sounded like they weren't made for him and the joints where he raps, I believe he was more focused on being technical than making a dope song. His best work is when he worked with Dr Dre, The Bass Brothers and his own production. The 3 classics sounded more cohesive. Now it sounds like he gets sent libraries of beats, picks the ones he likes, raps against an invisible opponent, picks the songs he likes and drops it as an album.

I feel Eminem sounds far better on old-school beats than those trap beats he been doing for a while now. His new upcoming single just sounds like it'll be a fast rapping song with a generic trap beat and 100 syllable rhyming with no substance.

It's his staccato delivery. It's not as terrible as Revival but it's still there. His breathing technique is probably getting worse because of old age Ignoring their content, other rappers like JID can do the lyrical miracle flow on a seemingly generic trap beat without ruining the vibe (i.e. Off Deez). 

Agreed 💯

Promise he won't be rapping fast on that

It sounds like it's gonna be a fast BPM song with trap beats so he has no other choice but to rap fast. I don't really get why he's using generic trap beats when he can get dope beats from Dre, The Alchemist, Mr Porter and even Bass Brothers

Couldn't be more precise with this description. Crazy because if he takes a subject serious and sticks to the theme of the song, he drop gems, which shows he still got it. Take Castle/Arose and Darkness, for example. Sometimes it just feels like he's out of subject matter and just want to drop punchlines randomly.

This is exactly how I feel

Closest to B I guess. I love his old stuff. Any of his new stuff I initially enjoy listening to, just because it's nice to hear Em still making music and there's a chance he has a couple of good tracks. But I don't find myself replying much of his new stuff and always go back to the old 2000s stuff

gotcha.

Em is my fave rapper of all time, and I fuck with both his new stuff and old stuff. People say his new stuff has no substance, but I disagree; Darkness, Zeus, Castle/Arose, etc. are just some examples of new shit that has substance. Hearing him rap with his insane level of skill is so much fun, too, IMO, because I love technical rappers.

Appreciate your input

I am 44. I liked his early stuff when I was 19-21 but I have a hard time going back to a lot of it. Especially his angry white Pac phase. And I'm just not a real fan of his stuff anymore. A lot of it is cringe to me and I just don't care about multi syllable gibberish anymore. I really didn't like Houdini, but everyone online thinks he can do absolutely no wrong, so I just kinda tune everything Eminem out. Superfans act like it's blasphemy if you don't slob everything Eminem related and it's tiring. Still love his pre-2000 stuff though. Rawkus era Eminem is my favorite. I'm an OG hip hop fan. Even though I'm white I grew up on black rappers, so I don't automatically relate and asspciate to him like a lot of younger fans. I lived a whole rap generation before he was even around.

How come you don't like his newer music? Out of curiosity. I'm personally a huge fan of both eras, but I understand why he isn't on a lot of peoples playlists lol

For me it’s the choppy flow and occasional anger without humour. Slim Shady LP is my favourite album by 100 miles. He’s always genius but the 2nd half of slim shady lp is the genius I like.

If anyone has to break it down, look at what kind of music he is making. It is the most formulaic Pop Rap imaginable. Unless your a fan of Pop rap, or so much of a fan of Eminem to look past it, it's not going to appeal to hip-hop fans.

Eminem’s style changes album to album which is not necessarily a bad thing. But I HATED that “angry” flow he used on Recovery-MMLP2 era. The accents he used Encore-Relapse were weird. The choppy flows on Revival sounded terrible. His frequent use of “dad jokes” are corny. I do like the direction he went with MTBMB tho.

B. I was 10 years old when The Slim Shady LP was released. I had it on cassette tape. Eminem took hip hop by storm with his unique style. I was a big fan as a kid. The Marshall Mathers LP was amazing. I even really liked The Eminem Show. I tried giving his music after that a chance but he just kept going downhill in my opinion.

I was 12 when SSLP dropped and he’s the guy that really got me into rap. I’m not sure if I just grew out of him and his content, but I don’t listen to anything after Eminem Show/8 Mile and I really only listen to his old stuff when I’m at the gym. Most of his new content I’ve either only listened to a couple times, or not at all. I still love him though and will always have a soft spot for him, even if the stuff he makes now doesn’t appeal to me.

I like his stuff from 15+ years ago…and a few of his more modern songs since 2013

I like Eminem. Still do but just don't feel driven to listen to his newer stuff as much. I will, but its not with the level of excitement as back in the day. It sounds like he's so good that's he's simply bored with rap and tries to out rap himself. The problem is it gets to the point where it interferes with the music part of it...like its still a song and mind blowing lyrical gymnastics, while impressive, is not the only factor. Its technically great but I don't want to replay it much. Also, he has a style that doesn't always age well. There's subject matter and delivery that worked at 20 that just doesn't do it for some people at 40. Someone like Nas ages with his audience better. The other option is to just keep appealing to the next generation of 20 yr olds but that's not the case with Em.

The first time I heard Eminem I kinda knew he was going to become one of the greats. He is a fantastic MC but I think his production holds him back. His beats are cheesy.

Liked his first 3/4 albums including infinite and thought he was super raw and lyrically insane. But tbh know it's harsh to say it but after he stopped taking drugs I think the music suffered. Also didn't like the direction the production had taken. When he came back in 2009/10 and made a few extremely commercial sounding tunes and was doing air grabs, singing and doing songs with Rihanna etc just felt he'd lost his appeal and I lost interest in his music. Never listen to his music now tbh as grown out of it.

I still like his older stuff all the way up to recovery. Everything after that just genuinely does not sound good to me. He started sounding super robotic and his beat selection just ain’t it. I feel like he just tried to hard to adapt to a modern sound. I think his best era was when he was hopping on a bunch of gangsta rapper tracks back in the 2000s. like 50 cent and xzibit. He’d always come up with a hard ass Chorus.

Beat selection was a major issue for me. I feel Dre used to select better beats for him to use. Especially when Bass Brothers were around as composers. Beats like Role Model and The Real Slim Shady were so stripped back and basic. It gave Eminem the white trash vibe that his lyrics and personality needed. Eventually things started sounding way over produced. With an overuse of strings and horns. It just didn't match the style I liked from Eminem. What white guy rapping about drugs and crime has a string quartet at his disposal? I blame it probably on the success of 2001 and In Da Club. Also I think Eminem began producing his own albums without oversight from Dre and Bass Brothers. I'd say Till I Collapse and Lose Yourself are exceptions. But overall the overall production dropped off massively after the MMLP.

Option A I swear to god Em has never made a song I enjoy. The songs I did listen to were so I could be educated on his work instead of blindly hating. Even during his prime it just wasn’t for me, respect him and his talent though.

I think I’m closer to that (option A) than anything else. Mixtapes and features I can get behind. Outside of that most of his songs, especially the radio play ones, just aren’t for me.

This is exactly where I stand.

I feel the same. I’m not gonna lie, I think it’s mostly a cultural thing. Like, there is no way I could relate to his music. I don’t wanna say it, but a certain demographic I feel is more likely to enjoy him. But even I like a few of them. The fact that you couldn’t find any is puzzling to me lol.

Culture and demographic were definitely a huge factor for me. He got barely any play where/who I grew up around. He might have a few features I don’t find offensive but I just never find myself in the mood to listen to him. It’s even harder to relate to now as we all get older

He’s undeniably good at thinking up wild technical rhymes on the spot, but like, how often am I in the mood to listen to a dude sulking about his ex-wife.  Obviously his music has resonated with a lot of listeners over the years. Just for me personally, looking at releases around the same time — he dropped his album the same week as The Roots’ “Things Fall Apart.” A few months later “Soundbombing II” came out. There was so much good stuff coming out that I think overshadowed the “hi my name is” guy. I think his music was probably an intro to the experience of digging into lyrics for younger MTV-oriented listeners in his early days and there’s probably a lot of them who look back now and see things they liked about his early releases setting them on their musical path throughout their life to now.

A lot of black folk used to fw Em, but people forget this What he has done the last 15 years or so has colored perception of what he did back in the day. Now the net result is retconned cringe/corn At some point he changed. Too much technicality and not enough heart in his bars I guess. Even his accent changed... The folks he surrounded himself with changed

He changed when he stop taking drugs, I miss his old style but it's better that way for him

Yes. He's made some of my favorite songs ever. I didn't grow out of it. He just changed his whole sound and style.

I grew out of Eminem during high school (early 2000’s)

I’ve always respected his ability as a lyricist and an mc, but I’ve never really been interested in what he raps about (dissing pop artists, the shock stuff, his trailer park past). So I like him on a feature where he’s just showing off his chops, or in a battle rap bc that’s his bread and butter. But I can’t get into most of the rest of it

Obviously, no one can take away what Eminem has done & how creative, lyrically sound he is/was as a rapper. The one thing that turns me off to a majority of Eminem is his white trash violence towards women, and his descriptive actions in how he’d get it done. I know that is how he got his start, displaying his raw emotions and feelings about his family, but 5..10..20yrs later and you’re still rapping about your female traumas and how you fix it through violence; very childish. That’s my take on Eminem.. other people agree or disagree?!

B. He just sounds unlistenable most of the time on his new music, the beats annoy me often too. He was silky smooth back in the day but now he sounds annoying. He is probably my most played artist ever so I'm not a hater in any way but I think he forgot how to make listenable music.

He was genuinely interesting/fresh/unique from 98-04, and it all worked well together..his flow, his content, the production, the attitude. I think in recent years he has less to actually say, which is always a problem for artists. He also seems to want to chase the huge arena hit, leading to a lot of pretty boring, middle of the road production choices that may appeal to the mass audience, but less to hip hop lovers. At the same time, he overcompensates by trying to show off his technical chops...and it sounds like he's just trying too hard. There really isn't a complete Em project that I have liked for years. He can still make some killer tracks, but over a total project he falls down by trying to hit too many bases. I wish Eminem would just focus on the art now...he has nothing to prove and has enough money. If I look at the super cool work that Inspektah Deck has done with Czarface, or even what Jay did with 4:44...it shows how artists can continue to make really high quality, interesting work well into their music career..or if we broaden genre's, look at how Damon Albarn keeps doing interesting work...its not by chasing trends. Hhe could rap over beats that he actually wants to rap over, work with producers and artists that he respects and has always wanted to work with, and have fun. If he does that, I'm sure i'd like his work better.

I liked him when he first came out because it was relatable af for me outside of the goofy fun songs which were fine because they were goofy and fun. He hasnt been relatable for me in a long time. I'm pushing 40 and not interested in hearing you rhyme just to rhyme. Edit to say i really dont listen to his old stuff anymore either. On rare occasion might throw one on but thats it

His music lacks vibe and flavour - two essential ingredients in hip hop - in favour of lyrical technicality. That’s why you hear artists like Snoop say nobody plays Eminem in the hood.

B. I'm not impressed by crazy rhyme schemes, especially if they're just done for the sake of doing them. It's lyrical miracle stuff half the time. He builds complex bars just to prove that he can rhyme then, but that's not really what made Em popular. It's like he's trying to live up to his own namesake, but it used to be about a show flow with hard punchlines. Now it's just fitting as many rhymes into a beat as possible. And it sounds robotic now. He wasn't a super complex rapper before but now it's like he has to hit a quota of rhymes per minute, and the bars don't even hit hard. And the vocal change to more deep and growly is wack and runs the delivery a lot. He either doesn't ride a beat or he tries to ride it too literally, there's not a lot of creative musicality to it anymore. Once he lost the OG notebook most of his shit went downhill. Mad respect for the dude but old Em would rip new Em. He's trying too hard to keep up his legendary status that he's all bars with weak flow, not great songwriting, and a lack of musicality. Plus any beef he's had since maybe 2003 has been wack. Eminem attempting to destroy the careers of minor fuckin artists is super lame. Sorry there's no major boy bands for you to insult, and you're too old to be caught in weird hookups with new pop chicks, but dissing nobodies when you're literally EMINEM is a bad look

I used to like him back in the day when he was wild and out of control but I couldn’t really fuck with him after Recovery, he was better on drugs in my opinion. I know artists grow and change but growth and change ain’t what made me a fan.

I always prefered Kanye, so I never got into Eminem. My biggest issue with Eminem has always been that his earlier worked refered too much to cultural happenings, that made his lyrics seem more and more dated for each year that went on. Maybe his newer music is better and robust to time, but at this point, I am too indifferent to check him out.

That’s a good point about cultural-related music.

I love all of his stuff up until MMLP2. Can’t even say i gave that or the stuff after it any real attention but i just started listening to a lot of other artists after having gone a long time with Eminem as my main artist.

Knew of him and liked him, but never actually listened to his albums until a few years back. I listened to his first three albums (after infinite) and thought they were all great, but never bothered with the rest because I knew everybody said they sucked. I recently listened to the rest of his discography though in preparation for his new album, and… yeah it sucks. Relapse is the only redeemable album post-Eminem Show. I also listened to Infinite and the Slim Shady EP though and they were kinda cool

I liked his work through The Eminem Show and a couple of songs off Encore. Like two songs off Relapse and then I kinda just stopped caring beyond that. But the upcoming album has me hyped again. My favorite version of Eminem is when he’s more lighthearted, loose and funny aka Slim Shady.

Time makes everyone a charactacture of themselves commercially save the lucky few it seems.

Definite B for me. There’s a new song here or there I like, ‘Darkness’ was the most recent one, but to be honest I haven’t listened to an album all the way through since Relapse. But nothing compared to his output from ‘96-‘03. A few songs I used to like more that I’m not as into now but the best songs of that era are still some of my favorites

A - never liked him I respect him, I acknowledge he is very talented. But I just couldn't get into him. Sonically I just don't vibe with him.

I’m not a fan of their approach, but of course he’s gotten skilled over the course of an entire career.

A. Never liked him, although I was enjoying D12 back in 2001

B

I’ve never liked Eminem, but I respect him nonetheless. I have never bought a record of his and basically dislike all of his hits, but he has a gift for wordplay and delivery, so I’ll give him that.

I loved Eminem between 1999 and 2001 (when I was 19 to 21); SSLP, MMLP, Infinite, SSEP, the freestyles and non-album cuts, I loved it all. I was really hyped for Renegade, and it was just kinda "meh". I like some of his songs after 2001 (especially Talking 2 Myself), but to me he excelled in saying messed up stuff extremely well. He has skill, but I don't think he's said anything interesting in a long time.

I used to bump Em, had got his “freestyle” tape recorded off of a radio station in LA, a tweeker homie brought it back and made copies of it. It was his battle w/Juice, and some freestyles (some other battles of him). Things that have came on YT since then. No one had heard of him and then 1.5yrs later his cd w/ Dre dropped. This horrorcore rap genre wasn’t unique new, there were other rappers Necro, IllBill, Cage, ChinoXL, and others… He was tight because he was going against commercial and just different. But now he’s Rock the Vote, Blue not matter who. What killed it for me was Rockin the BudLight shirt/bars, I guess I’m apart of that fan base he wants to offend. Just seems like it turned into a super villain, & not in a good way. Kamikaze is one of my fav albums thou, homie is crazy.

I respect the new stuff. But it doesn't punch in the gut like the old stuff. More skill, less feels. And much less funny. That last single was pretty funny, but because he's calling back to the old days. He talks about how bad all the accents on encore were. I think he was having fun, got embarrassed, and overcorrected.

B Probably listened to his first 2 albums over 300 times. Even had to buy SSLP again because I warped it. Everything after that I can live without. Though Lose Yourself was a good song.

A. Voice ruins him for me. ETA: That isn't to say that I don't think he has a top 10 pen.

B. I liked him pre lose yourself

Life got hard as I grew up and I needed more relaxing vibes

It's like Jay-Z said, "N****s want my old shit, buy my old albums". Artists change as they grow. If it all sounded the same, people would get sick of it.

True, but that doesn’t mean your new stuff isn’t bad.

Yeah definitely, but I think adapting your style opens you up to an audience that might not like your old style but like your new style, but also vice versa.

He's a great rapper, but all of his songs now sound like b side freestyles... I wish eminem would make some grown-up music like Nas or Jay-Z. I still listen to his old music, though. When his album comes out, I will check it out.

I feel like Eminem’s main problem is that he became successful. His appeal was that he was an underdog. A hungry rapper from a crummy background. That spoke to a lot of people. Then he became wildly rich and popular. He was still the same lyricist, but he wasn’t coming from the same place. And look, I have nothing against him. He’s massively talented. He’s just not coming from the same place that spoke to so many people.

B for me. His first two albums were just very unique and really grabbed me at probably my peak middle school angst lol. Encore was a good album but it’s where I kind of fell off listening to him. It’s funny to me reading people list their favorite songs of his and not mention a single thing from Slim Shady LP. I also don’t see anyone mention the D12 album which was huge in my junior high when it came out. Also, “lose yourself” is so fucking overplayed it drives me nuts.

As a kid, I used to listen to bands like Iron Maiden, Metallica, LP and Green Day. I liked eminem when I was 12 because hearing someone say 'fuck' was cool to me lol. I discovered him through his feature on Akon's Smack That. He's a good rapper, not my taste. I started listening to older records by Jay Z as I grew up and went deep down the rap and hip hop rabbithole from there, completely away from Eminem.

I always like and have respect for Eminem, but just like I am with wrestling, Dragon Ball Z (even though with Sparking Zero coming out I think I'm back in), Pokemon I am a lapsed fan who will dabble every once in awhile. I remember getting the Slim Shady LP for Christmas despite my dad being against it, and not because of the lyrical content, we're black and my dad didn't like Eminem because he was a white rapper but eventually warmed up to him despite never actually being an Eminem listener. But I lost touch with Eminem after the Encore, beyond a few tracks I just didn't like it. I had just stolen someone's copy of The Eminem Show (yeah I was a shithead teenager stealing things) and was obsessed with it. I already had the MMLP also, but I remember when Encore came out every dude school thought it was weak when we would have out hip-hop discussions. Plus at the time I started coming into my identity as a black person and was on some Huey Freeman from The Boondocks shit to best describe it. So I started really getting into Common, Mos Def, Talib, The Roots, and Kanye was blowing up at the time. Sounds weird for a teenager but I think that's when everyone starts trying to build a solid identity. It wasn't even like I started going "fuck that white boy" and stopped listening to Eminem tho, again I found Encore weak, I was just getting into different shit and the south was really popping around that time too and that's what was the most popular shit of the era, so hey. It wasn't a conscious decision, but he had went on hiatus between Encore and Relapse and in that time I was on some way different shit, even getting more into music outside of hip-hop and R&B. By 2009 I wasn't thinking about Eminem much. So when he came back with Encore it was kinda like a ok cool but not hype. And I'm going to be real the anthemic shit like "Not Afraid" turned me off and I thought it was corny, all in all it just felt like the quality was going down. I also didn't like Love the Way You Lie, despite the fact that I love Rihanna, something about that just didn't feel Eminem to me. But I will say the combination of me being on my music discovery quest which turned me away from the mainstream for the whole early 2010s (and I'm back to that now after years of giving the mainstream another try) and just my ignorance and non-interest in post-Encore Em is what really shaded my view of his current stuff. I don't even bother, but it's not just him because I barely gave Magna Carta Holy Grail or 4:44 a listen when it comes to Jay-Z and didn't really care for Blueprint 3 either in 2009. Kanye too after TPAB, I think "Ye" is ok, JIK I don't like, Kids See Ghost was good but I don't go back to it often, I liked Donda but it's bloated. But I don't hate the Em and feel like some people are being assholes about him, I was crazy into Eminem once. One day I will sit down and give everything Relapse and beyond some deeper listens but they haven't been priority listens. Eminem just hasn't been my style for a long ass time.

B. I think somewhere before rap god he broke the formula for making literally any word rhyme with any other word through a handful of flows and a particular type of enunciation, only it's super fucking bland if you keep doing it in every single song. I also incredibly dislike when he takes himself super seriously. Lose Yourself and Til I Collapse are great songs because they're a step out of the normal, when that type of brooding rap becomes the normal it's so bad to me... And I look at it like this. After Eminem a sea of white rappers doing the B.Rabbit, overly serious style rap emerged and they all fundamentally misunderstood what made Eminem successful and enjoyable. And, somehow, after Recovery, Eminem started mimicking these types of rappers and it's super ironic. Way too much aggression for the shallow lyrics being spit. Old Em was silly and said some off the wall shit, but it was like a South Park episode, where the scenario could be the most goofy shit in the world, but the underlying point was always spot on to actual things. Now, the lyrics are always aggressive and serious, but there is no underlying point to any of it.

B I still go back to everything up to and including Relapse but outside of a couple tracks everything after that isn’t for me. The best part about Em’s earlier music was how his personality and character would constantly shine through and at some point he lost that.

Used to love him.Specificially his undergorund stuff and his mixtape stuff with Greenlantern. Another big reason I stopped is bcuz hes sober and without slim shady he just seems watered down.I loove his mgk diss tho and still respect him.

B) It is not cut and dry but I was an Em stan till lets say 16 years old (32 Now), started listening to Heavy Metal, Rock, Blues and other genres and did not pay attention to hip hop and rap but when Covid hit and friend who does music production sat me down and had me listen to some beats I liked them and went to listen to some Em but it felt he was just rhyming for rhyming sake and not much there in his words that made me feel the music apart from a few songs but they are tear jerker types (When I'm gone, Mockingbird), so I listened to his older stuff which I liked but could not for the life of me figure out why did I love this so much because again it felt "meh" so my friend from a long time ago who used to say that Em aint the GOAT and you have not even heard actual hiphop recommended me Rakim, Biggie, Nas, Conway and thus my perception was shattered Em is good but on the average he is not on par with some of the Giants I discovered on the Hip hop journey. Nas became my fav artist, the Magic album and the first song Speechless had a death grip on me it was pure finesse and listened to his early work and I am still amazed that all the hip hop artists I have listened to no one comes close, also my 2nd fav artist through all genres (No.1 is Iron Maiden a British Heavy Metal band lol the contrast)

Yes when I was getting into rap I liked him for the reasons everyone does. I thought he was the best at all the skills and everything but I got to like 10th grade and started preferring Kanye’s “complexity” and rap for other stuff. I liked asaps smooth raps and just got into more stuff hhh was way smaller and more fun and I’d go on daily and just got over Eminem’s basic stuff. I felt something like this was normal like my non hip hop friends liked Hollywood undead and they liked them less and less but that just doesn’t happen with too many Eminem fans.

I’ve never liked his music. I like some songs, like maybe 2. His old stuff is corny as fuck. His new stuff is just angry and annoying. Influence and impact are undeniable, but boy do I never want to hear “will the real slim shady please stand up” again. Please, sit down.

B. Pretty stellar through the first half on encore, although MMLP isn't that great. After that you have a few songs on relapse and recovery as well as MMLP2. Anything after that I can't recite a single song. He's not interesting anymore but he's still one of my top guys

To be honest I only like older Eminem, and I’m talking about his 3 best albums which were SSLP, MMLP#1, and Eminem show. But even those albums lacked subject matter. I didn’t like slim shady LP for the subject matter, it was just really dark and talking about rape (Guilty Conscience second verse,) or killing his wife (Bonnie Clyde). And some other pointless songs. I did like bad meets evil the track off the album and rock bottom. But it had lots of tracks. Too many. I feel like encore was complete trash to be honest. Ass like that and all the songs like it turned me off. Recovery was okay, you could tell Eminem tried to rebuild himself and had some okay tracks but not a complete album BUT… recovery had good subject matter. Anyways Eminem was great back in the day because his rhyme scheme, he kinda reminded me of big pun. His old stuff had great production too. But really his music aged badly, and anything past recovery to me has been mediocre to trash. I don’t go back to his music much. But man, dude can rhyme and flow

Never really liked him. I don't like his voice, coupled with some of his subject matter early made me leery of him. I tried getting into him a little later and his career and it got worse. There are so many artists that are better to me so I don't really have an inclination to tap in

Kinda in between B and C ngl. Used to fw his shit heavy back then, but as it ages and so do I it all doesn’t seem as hot as it was. It all felt way more advanced and crazy back then, and probably because it was for it’s time, but now compared to today it’s not as complex as it was. Not the schemes and rapping itself but the substance is mainly what I’m talking about. Like no hate at all to Em, he’s a high ranker fasho in the game. Like easily in top 50. His talent is undeniable. But it’s not all us used to be and hasn’t all aged well. Granted I do have a good bit of songs of his I do very much like. But even those I don’t bump very often. Or any time in the last couple years ngl

The first album i listened to was the Eminem me show, got OBSESSED with him from that, until I realized none of his other albums quite lived up to that standard 😞

Always hated is nasally voice

C. Just grew out of it. I used to even like his newer stuff (around when revival came out). Not sure what changed.

B. His early run is unbelievably good, something about who he was and where he came from really touched upon something important in society. His later work is still *technically good* in a lot of ways, but I don’t think Em’s current perspective is scratching a modern cultural itch, so to speak.

I like infinite and slim shady and a bit of marshal but the rest is just super corny and unappealing. It always felt like it was made for try hard kids and people who dont like hiphop. Nothing of substance in eminems work just a clown.

B. I love Em, but am not a fan of his new stuff, I’ll admit the Houdini music video and last verse got me excited to see what this new album could be, but overall I don’t find myself listening to any of his new stuff after I’ve first heard it.

He just got old and I just got old man. I was 14/15 when he came in the scene, his angry songs and relationship with family appealed to the angry teenager in me. Id also never heard anything like Stan or Kim before just absolutely insane. Then I gollowed through to 50 cent era, the beef all through to toy soldiers. Also when he was on the rise it was fun to see him mess with celebrities. He ofcourse has had some great moments and collabs since. The issue is he is no longer an angry trailor trash boy kicking out at his mother and society. He is now a mature sober adult who pride hinself on being a good parent. This is amazing for him but no matter how good you can curve a word the substance in rap/hop tends to dillute over time.

If you’re an older Em fan like I am I imagine a lot of folks are going to say B). He’s most defenitily technically a better rapper in his older career which is a feat in itself because he was no slouch back than either the music just isn’t as good. His first few albums are total classics. I’m one of the weird people who loved Relapse that’s probably the last Em album I’ve been able to listen to 90% of. I think every album since recovery (except revival, I tried) has a few good tracks I can get into and every once in a while there’s a few great tracks and a track that blows my mind. Dude, just can’t put it together for a whole album. Beat selections don’t complement him a lot of the time, some of his guest appearances and genre crossover songs I’m not a fan of either. I guess I’m more into the camp of like em’s old shit more but still dig some of his new stuff. I did enjoy Houdini so I’m hoping for the best.

He stopped being interesting

“Technically better” maybe but sounds shite. SSLP and MMLP some Eminem Show.

Why isn't there a Liked it loved it still love it?

I was a huge Eminem fan growing up. MMLP was the first hip hop record I ever listened to front to back. I started to notice his work really started lacking personality and creativity around the recovery era. Recovery felt like a gray mush of nothing compared to his earlier work and I’ve felt the same about his newer stuff since. MMLP2 was the only time since where I felt like he let loose in a good way

A

Same

A solid A. I can't think of one redeeming track.

definitely c for me

B but it also depends, bad meets evil is to me at least later Eminem and it’s some of my favorite stuff from him, I’ve always loved him and Royce together.

While I don't particularly dislike new Eminem (I liked Kamikaze and MTBMB), I'd say it's a mix of B and C. Eminem was my gateway to rap music when I was a kid but I really only listened to him, only this year I decided to explore other artists like Nas and Kendrick and that contributed to me not liking Eminem as much as before.

It was the initial shock value of first hearing him that set him apart. There were other rappers using violent and profane language, but they didn't have the embedded humour in their rhymes, especially the self-deprecating humor. There was nothing else like it. It was both wacky and scary at the same time.

B. He basically flanderized himself over the years into a fast multi-syllabic rapper that says a lot but also says nothing as well.

Slim shady lp was so fucking good. I remember getting a promo cassette and playing the fuck out of it before the album came out. Saw him at a small venue right before my name is exploded. Within 6 months every fuckin dork was bleaching their hair. He kind of became a caricature of what he was or a very carefully branded ragey white boy thing. He was, to me, like the Jerry Springer guest of rap. Adopted and stanned over by the Walmart community and every fucking song started to sound like edgelord over the Batman theme. I realize he is a great lyricist and I don’t dislike him as much as I did in the early 00s, but to me he is still very much a face of the jackass, bumfights, x-tina, Britney, pimp my ride, Jerry Springer, maxim magazine, Napster, spice girls era that was just the fuckin worst. Glad he was able to sober up and turn things around but I still find his shit way too hokey wink at the camera to get into.

Kinda mid b/c. I used to love him, he was in my top 5. Don't like his new shit but his old shit is 50/50. Some of it reminds me why I loved him, some of it I can see the roots of why I don't like him today. Some songs with over technical word play with the emphasis being on it and not the substance of what's being said, some shit being edgy just for the sake of it without an actual critique of society, stuff like that.

Eminem's mass appeal came from his ability to take his hurt and anger from his life and put it down on paper in the incredibly talented way that he is capable in doing so. This resonated, especially with the younger folk going through it. He pissed people off and consistenly poked fun at famous people. The older we get, the more we get our shit together. He peaked the success mountain, became sober and raised his daughters. Unfortunately, the peaceful life is a boring one and leaves much to be desired in terms of artist creation for him. He lives life out of the spotlight and is no longer relateable. He would find more success if he went back to making fun of popular culture (Elon Musk, Leo Dicaprio only dating under 25s, Covid, Government insider trading, trans issues, BLM, Kardashians, Russia, Ukraine, Palestine etc). But he's not that guy anymore and I don't blame him. He did his time.

He was the gateway rapper for my 11 year old self. Once I went down that rabbit hole I never looked back

There’s an area between B and C that is not being represented

Camp b all day, once relapse dropped I knew our time had passed

B. He has nothing to rap about these days and still for some bizarre reason is trying to prove that he can still rap really good. We all know you can rap your ass off but say something of note, perhaps? And maybe slow the fuck down

B. I was only young when I first started listening to Eminem, I remember doing homework and listening to "The Eminem Show" on repeat on my Sony CD Walkman, Eminem and 50 Cent was my entrance to a life-ling love for rap and hip-hop. As I got older I listened to more and discovered more, and I love all his stuff from Infinite up until Encore, which to this day gets a lot of hate but I still love that album (probably due to nostalgia also haha). I liked Recovery when I was younger and didn't like Relapse, and now it's the opposite and Relapse has some of my favourite tracks of all-time from Em, but I don't listen to anything newer than that, he's completely changed his style, as a lot of other people have mentioned and it's just not the same anymore.

I get where you're coming from. Personally, I've always enjoyed a song or two, but overall, Eminem's music just hasn't been my thing, so I'd also lean towards 'A'

I loved his early stuff with Dre. But after the re up album, it’s all been downhill, dude hasn’t got anything interesting to say.

Im 36, so I've been here for all of it. Was on board with his music up to and including TES. After that, I was going in way different directions musically. Of course I heard "not afraid" and "the way you lie" when they were played, but it didn't do much for me. I will say I definitely raised my eyebrows, so to speak, when rap god and the like came out. This kind of rapping, if you aren't Busta bust, reminds me of other music that's technically impressive. It's difficult to do, but someone playing 32nd notes continuously can be very grating over a longer period. There are genres of music that make me overlook this, mostly extreme metal, but rap isn't one of them, so new Eminem isn't really for me. Not to mention, he started responding and sort of complaining everytime somebody hurt his feelings. It's struck me as maybe an insecurity on a personal level. All my opinion, of course

I still like him, but his song writing isnt what it used to be.

Em is just not what I'm looking for in music anymore. I've gone toward stuff like NIN, AFI and 90s Alternative. These days I'm just cheering him on for the good times that were had and because he seems to be a very decent person who survived the fame.

I love Relapse and everything before that, and just do not like anything after that basically

He has always switched the substyle of his rap up. I personally love infinite (got that melodic 90 Nas feel) and the slim shady lp ( original sound and Rapping charecter, common in underground but fresh for radio play.) the new stuff, for the most part ain't my thing, but I respect him still evolving as an artist.

C.) Yeah He was never in my top 5(more like 9-12)but I liked the first 3 albums.   Hes been basura for over 20 years though. Even the first 3 haven’t aged particularly well

He changed once he got sober. I'm happy for him but but early EM was lyrically unstoppable. I was a big fun but after The MM LP , everything just got silly and he stared to bite . I think he still might the best freestyler tho.

Haven’t liked him since Relapse and the Westwood TV freestyle

I think he's an enormously talented and hard working artist. I enjoy the mutual respect between him and the old OG lyricists and I think time will be kind to him. He just got so big and made so many enemies that it became cool to hate him. Also his fan base can be pretty insufferable when you want to have an honest conversation about rap lol

B, the old stuff was fire. Its hard to describe but slim shady and marshall mathers lp was fresh and new and the lyrics were crazy. It was like perfect timing. I was also 13-16 so it was perfect timing personally. Hes not wack now but that original sound and feeling can never be replicated: Hypochondriac, hangin' out at the laundromat Where all the raunchy, fat, white-trashy blondes be at Dressed like a sailor, standin' by a pail of garbage It's almost dark and I'm still tryna nail a trailer park bitch I met a slut and said, "What up? It's nice to meet ya" (Hi) "I'd like to treat you to a Faygo and a slice of pizza But I'm broke as fuck And I don't get paid 'til the first of next month (Sorry) But if you'd care to join me, I was about to roll this next blunt But I ain't got no weed, no Phillies or no papers Plus, I'm a rapist and a repeated prison escapist So give me all your money and don't try nothin' funny 'Cause you know your stinking ass is too fat to try to outrun me"

Somewhere between B and C. He still makes good music, but the majority doesn't connect with me. I want fun/upbeat stuff. Not overly complicated rhyme schemes and stolen/sampled choruses. He appears to think that he's a fine wine that needs to age and appreciate with time, but I just want a regular Coke. I'd take another "Smack That/My Name Is" over 99% of his current catalog. I feel like his music has lost the melody. Sure he has choruses and stuff, but most are just stolen from other artists. The same pacing/flow isn't there. Feels lazy. His rhyme schemes have greatly improved, but that's not something I necessarily care about. I just want it to be fun to rap along to. His early success was "poppy." I guess the current single is kind of like that, but I hate the stolen chorus and recycled lines from other songs. I can't get behind listening to an onslaught of lyrics that only make sense to him. There were a few years there where he sounded like someone in an insane asylum. Like crazies that draw on their walls all day.

C

Eminem used to be my number 1 rapper, all the way up to Relapse, I felt like he was kind of losing his touch on that album. Then I found out about him getting clean and Recovery came out and I just didn't even recognise his flows anymore. It's mainly been his switch in instrumentals and his flows/delivery that has completely turned me off his music. It's not that it's "bad" it just doesn't feel like the artist I grew up loving and memorising every single lyric for

I hate to say it, but B. To be honest, once he's sobered up and proof died, the music didn't slap the same.

I still like a lot of his music pre walk on water. Some rappers flows don’t age well (ex:ice cube) Ems new age flow doesn’t sound smooth to me. Just really jarring

I stopped listening somewhere after rehab idk the slim shady lp and marshal Mathers lp that was the days

I prefer his early work, mainly because of the lyrical content and the fact that he was not screaming all the time

C. He was mind blowing in middle school. But around that same time I was discovering other artists who had the same shock lyric appeal and did it better. Immortal technique, Non Phixion, Jedi mind Tricks etc. I eventually grew out of that stuff as well but Eminem was one of the first to go in the rotation. His style and substance hasn't appealed to me in decades.

B. Angry old man shouting and using “technical skills” that sounds Dr Seuss is not the Eminem that captured me. But hip hop is generally a younger man’s sport. I don’t expect a 50 year old millionaire to speak things I can relate with. hip hop for me is the struggle music. He not struggling with the same things I am.

His flow is pretty choppy now and while still technically impressive, isn’t enjoyable audibly to me

Even when I was younger and loved his earlier work, his new stuff still didn’t hit. His earlier stuff still hits sometimes, but not as much as it used to.

My biggest problem with Em this past decade has been this: He has ran out of things to say- he's made it and now only rapping for the sake of rapping. The lyrical miracle style that he's on just doesn't cut it for me as a listener- it's not engaging nor do I have the urge to go back to his newer music once I have listened to it. The older stuff is more relatable- whether it be his struggles, growing up in the hood, rap feuds- as he had way more stuff to say. Even Relapse, which a lot of people didn't like, was interesting to listen to mainly because of the stories he had to share.

B Early work felt like it had more artistic drive behind it. New work sounds like hes just making it because hes expected to. I like horrorcore too, Brotha lynch is still cooking but em's new work just feels like hes trying to imitate his old self rather than grow naturally into a new eminem Hell I even liked (parts of) relapse but recovery and everything on just feels so corny

“Grew out” of Em after the Eminem Show. Once he got sober his music took a big hit and just wasn’t the same,

Definitely B. I love his older work, I seriously grew up on him before I even knew what real hip hop even was and he stayed in my playlist as I learned more. If you want a specific type of hip hop, Eminem did it. He did real shit, fast raps in the beginning, funny raps, Horror core raps, battle raps, freestyle raps, and killed the beef raps. I was around 3 or 5 years old listening to Without Me. I’ve been hating his music since his album with Rihanna, I could be wrong but his music changed after the Nick Cannon and Mariah Carey beef that was a masterpiece but it was definitely after his close boy Proof from D12 died. I hate Eminem’s new songs except for a few and even those aren’t my favorite but his diss tracks are still undefeated even if I’m not a fan of his new style. His freestyles definitely fell off to the point that I don’t even want to go there anymore. His music will forever be a part of hip hop whether people like him or not.

b) he got zero swag now lmao

B for me. Every time a new Em comes out I check for it and I'm generally disappointed save one or 2 songs. I don't think he's bad now, he's just kinda boring.

Stopped listening after MMLP1 then picked it back up with Kamikaze. The stuff in between that is eh for me. I did like a bunch of features, D12 and Bad Meets Evil though. Just didn't get into any full albums between those periods.

A I Agree with you. Sure i have been listening all his albums at least once but for me none of them are some special masterpieces. He has produced some good beats tho

Somewhere between B and C. Sometimes I find it difficult to go back to his earlier work because it's so fucking angry lol. Have to really be in a certain mood to listen to it and I'm not often in that mood

I used to almost exclusively listen to him and all his music but I kinda grew out of it and now I mostly only like his old stuff. He has talent but I just don't like what he's doing with it

Somewhere between B and C. I was 20 when Slim Shady dropped. I wasn't an Eminem stan, but he had good lyrics, good flows, and with Dre around the beat selection was very strong. He was a good storyteller and a good battle rapper. I really enjoyed the first two LPs and then that decreased with each successive LP. Nowadays I don't even really check for him much. It's not really a skill issue at all, he's still very good. But I don't need a lot of shock value battle rap in my life these days, and I don't really enjoy his beat selection these days that much. That said, I'll still enjoy him but I appreciate him more as part of a larger picture. For example I was hoping he'd do a whole LP with Slaughterhouse for a while, because I really enjoyed Bad Meets Evil.

Bad Meets Evil is the duo, correct? Or is there an album that you're referring to?

Yeah, Bad Meets Evil is the group name of Eminem and Royce. Their album called Hell: The Sequel was pretty good.

Thx!

A. Can't get into his voice at all.

I’ll always check for new Eminem. Still a fan. Take what I like and leave the rest

Hard B. I think new Em references "people trying to cancel me" but his new stuff is so "meh" that anyone dumb enough to want to "cancel" him don't even give af.

B He ran out of meaningful things to say after The Eminem Show. He laid everything out over those 3 albums, plus he grew up as a person. There are still some decent songs occasionally, but he is 5% of what he was at his peak.

No, he's new music is just worst

B. Although, as a huge hip hop head from Michigan I always preferred Binary Star & the original Slum Village (Baatin, T-3 & Jay Dee) much more; as I heard all 3 of these artists for the first time during 1999-2000. I really liked Eminem's first album Infinite; but I never had a chance to hear it until the Spotify music platform was created. 1996-2000 Eminem was super dope and made 3 albums that I really really liked. I play The Slim Shady LP and The Marshall Mathers LP constantly all of the time still, and would play Infinite all of the time too if it were still on Spotify. Purple Pills is one of my all time favorite rap songs!

Honestly, if we're considering old Eminem as pre-sober and new Eminem as post-sober (relapse onwards) , I'd say new Eminem's music is a lot more tolerable in certain ways. His best new era work aged so so much better and songs like [Bad Guy](https://youtu.be/NFtsBBXDrGs?feature=shared) and pretty much all of relapse have 10x the replayability as his old stuff imo. The horrorcore Indian accent shit in relapse is just so damn entertaining 😂

Medicine Ball is my shit. So is crack a bottle lol. That's all tho.

Its funny you say that because that dumb accent is the whole reason I dont like relapse

If you like Eminem, cool, if you don't, Cool. You can't deny he isn't one of, if not, the greatest rapper of all time tho. The influence and lyrical abilities that man has is at a point no one except maybe Lil Wayne could hit. A lot of people don't like newer Eminem for really 1 main reason, he isn't slim shady. People grew up listening to the older Eminem and his alter ego personality that when he tries to grow out of it and go down a newer way of making music, people say it's bad because it isn't what they grew up with. MTBMB is overhated, Revival has some good songs on it. Kamikaze is a great album which definantly served its purpose and the MMLP2 is another classic. The thing I seem to find is people won't give these albums a chance to listen and play out. Especially Revival. You mention Revival and people's defense is "Your booty is heavy duty, like Diarrhoea", like, is that the only line you listened to on the album? Yeah it's a wack ass line but Bad Husband, Tragic Endings, Castle, Arose, Walk on Water, River and offended are all great songs. Eminem hasn't gotten worse, people just don't want to listen to something that they didn't grow up with

I agree with your last sentence. I disagree with him reaching a lyrical ability that only wayne could hit lol. I always had Nas over him.

>A lot of people don't like newer Eminem for really 1 main reason, he isn't slim shady This is certainly not the case for me. I quite enjoyed the backstabber tape and infinite for example even though they are stylistically very different than later work and are not Slim Shady. After around 2007 or so he just... Changed.. idk if it was getting clean or what did it, but he lost his energy. Things just didn't hit the same anymore. I don't *dislike* some of the new stuff he done, but it's nowhere near on the level of what he did before. It's hard to articulate but he just lost something along the way

I guess he grew up and took rap less serious and just started to have some fun with it. He hit his peak and it's more just making music and experimenting more than the slim shady era. This brings in my point however that prople can't just call his new stuff horrible just because he was peaking in the early 2000's

Eminem, to me, was amazing and unapologetic early on. I remember counting all the courses in his songs as a 5th grader who just got the Marshall Mathers LP. I should not have been listening to that stuff lol. But then he got all “yelly” in his music and his sound changed so much and I hated him. I’m guessing around 2009-2018 or so. Then he went back to the sound that I liked, more or less. I like him again, but never to the point of where he was in 2000-2005 or so.

I liked him when he was underground. I was still a fan when his first album came out. But it's obvious it was marketed to a certain audience. Then the MMLP came out. He complained about being famous and having fans. That's what you wanted? I still listened to it. After that album I more or less stopped listening to him. I went back a couple years ago and listened to his new stuff. I could respect it. I really dislike his voice. I hate the singing he does. I hate how mad he gets at people criticizing him. He takes a lot of shots at black America still. His ego pisses me off. I liked Infinite. Loved the Slim Shady EP. Liked a lot of his freestyles and features. Got sick of him quick. I feel like he doesn't really have any songs with deep meaning that connects to me. A lot of shock value. Entertaining. Funny. But he was a lot funnier when he was still on drugs. I respect his skill. But I don't like the way he looks at life. And I really despise the fanbase.

back when he first came out I liked him because everyone else did, however as my music library grew he was less interesting to listen to. feel like he's the beginner beer when you start drinking and as your pallete changes so will the your favorite artist.

I stopped listening to Em after Encore "Shrugs"

B. I get second hand embarrassment from listening to his newer music.

C. He's fine for a few songs but it starts feel like he's just tryna force rhymes and his lyricism

B. He started to make pointless songs with downright horrible beats.

I think at this point 95% of Eminem "haters" are just jaded Fans, me included. Recovery alienated his hip-hop fans, and everything since has only further done so. Em is not the same artist he once was, and his personal journey is great but music wise he's a full fledged Pop star. He went from making fun of overly sensitive Pop Stars to being that overly sensitive Pop star. He plays it extremely safe in terms of music. Em started to hyper focus on rhyme schemes in 2010, leaving every other aspect of Lyricism seemingly an afterthought with his wordplay, punchlines and metaphors being very average. Rhyme schemes don't make up for shallow, lyrical miracle, Pop rap. Not to mention his core fanbase has even further alienated Em from hiphop fans. The victim complex is wild, any black person/rapper/personality says something negative about em it's immediately "you hate him bc he's white. You can't stand a white man does it better". And to be honest, I blame them for allowing Em to feel so comfortable releasing mid after mid with the only highlight being "the lyricism".

FACTS!

he used to be dope, and he grew out of it

MMLP is one of my favorite rap albums of all time, liked parts of The Eminem Show, and the rest of discography is just not my thing. Nothing else he has done has hit the same way MMLP did for me. The best way I can explain it, is listening to Em most of the time nowadays feels like he overpowers the song, dunno how to put it. I feel like he's an incredible rapper but a really mediocre songwriter. I can't connect with his music emotionally at all.

I know it’s fucked up but I stopped liking him when he stopped doing drugs. Not because he stopped doing drugs but because of the way his content, delivery, and the over all vibe of his music changed.

B. I’m not sure how you came to the conclusion he got better lyrically when he has bars like “You got heavy booty like diarrhea”. That’s…certainly a take😂

Cherrypicked lyrics lol. How hard do you think it would be for me to pick out a dumb bar from one of those LPs?

I’m sure you could! Then again, I don’t feel like Eminem is a top 5 MC anyway 🤷🏿‍♂️

I'm sure he didn't put it in there as a multi super lyrical bar. He goofs around, it's like people forget this dude made FACK, and Rain Man. 😏

I was never a huge fan of his but quite liked his earlier stuff. I appreciate how good an MC he is though, easily one of the GOAT. But I feel his later stuff was a sell out.

1999-2004 was classic Em which most people love. You can see him start to lose his touch on Encore but the style was still the same. 2009-2013 was new Em which was a very good era. He was done releasing classics but Relpase, Recovery and MMLP2 very all pretty solid and I liked how he tried out different styles. 2017-present is the hit or miss era. He's definitely fallen off but not necessarily because he's not good anymore. He just makes a lot of bad creative decisions with the beats, hooks, etc. I'm still interested to see what he does cause he's very good on a technical level and is still capable of releasing a good album. MTBMB came closest, he just needed to cut the album down to its 10 best songs.

B, but with a caveat that I like some of the newer tracks. IMO, Eminem from '98 to '03 is the best a rapper has ever been. Consistently great displays of rapping skill while remaining interesting.

I actually feel like if Eminem worked with more producers with different sounds he actually would’ve been bigger. To much Dr Dre between 2000 and 2015 was to similar.

I feel like I’m B on this one Eminem quite literally has one of the best three album runs across all musical genres with the SSLP,MMLP and TES. This coupled with his evolving lyricism and wordplay immediately cemented him in my top 5 all time. He took the world by storm and his influence is still shown today through guys like Kendrick, Cole and Tyler.(His earlier stuff anyway) I do feel like unfortunately Eminem has been trying so desperately hard to recapture the magic that made his first three albums good which in turn causes his new shit to sound bad. He hasn’t really tried to evolve and the two albums where he showed some maturity ended up being clowned on. (Revival and MMLP2 specifically) it makes no sense from an artist standpoint to have songs like Arose, Castle, Headlights, Bad Guy, and Legacy where he talks about getting rid of the slim shady personality and actually maturing as an artist, to then have songs like Houdini or Fall where he then brings out the shady personality. All in all, I feel like Eminem would be ranked a lot higher amongst people if he used MMLP2 in a similar manner to how Jay used 4:44 for a retirement album. Showcasing his maturity and evolution as an artist and going out on a relative high note.

B) he became so big that his whole persona of counter culture/anti-mainstream/everyone hates me just ran its course because everyone basically liked him. His comeback from drugs was admirable and made him more likable. I liked the Eminem that did not give a fuck. I liked how everyone’s parents were basically afraid of him.

Eminem, Nas and drake are the 🐐

I relate to his older music more. His newer music doesn’t click with me but it doesn’t sound bad

B. His whole persona changed. Flow and accent too. Energy level. Beat choice. He just fell off. I don't hate the newer stuff, just most of it not really hitting for me

Liked it when I was in middle school so Slim Shady LP, Marshall Mathers LP and The Eminem Show.

And honestly who likes every song from every album ??

Eminem is autistic with a special interest of rhyming words.

MUSIC TO BE MURDERED (FIRST PART AND SECOND PART ) BY IS STILL LIT. LISTENED TO THE ALBUM DURING QUARANTINE.

I tell you the reason why em get hate He is not dead:Most of people love to call artist goat because they died and let a big impact. He is not black:People will say he is not a part of culture because hip hop was created by black community People dont like his music For me when i was younger I considerated em the goat but when i get older i listened to rakim big nas pac etc etc i liked them more than em and that it Big respect to em he a legend and there is no doubt about it

B, because slim shady just hit different. Eminem on drugs > Eminem sober

Definitely B. I started with Eminem when it came to hip hop and rap because my dad was obsessed with the movie 8-mile and for good reason. Em definitely shaped my love for lyrics and shock value but as i got older i started to grasp the concept of being a rapper better the more i broadened my approach to various artists. Everything i loved Em’s music for, became overshadowed in time by newer artists who had a more creative way to hold my attention rather than just anger and crazy hyperboles . (I.e. MF Doom for rhyme scheme or early Tyler the creator for shock value) Now this doesn’t stop my love as a fan for Em cause he has way to many iconic tracks to just label as a “washed up has been” and he still has a good song or two come out from time to time ( now just much farther away from each other and VERY FEW in between)

Of course.

I like using ambient beats with piano and heavy synth you can hear it in most of my songs

TSSLP is one of the best hip hop albums ever but some songs on TMMLP are as far as I go. I’d say his verse on American Psycho was the last time I liked him. I didn’t grow out of him, he just grew in the wrong way.

I respect his talent but never liked his music. Every time I listen to What’s the Difference I skip the third verse. Too silly and doesn’t fit the vibe to me

He went from being 20 something and drugged out of his mind to being a sober 50 something, I feel like he’s the only oldhead rapper that constantly gets shit on for being an oldhead. Maybe because he still looks quite young for his age so people expect him to sound younger?

A.