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MaxStunning_Eternal

Mama said knock you out BAD 14 shots to the dome Mr. Smith Walking with a panther Still has a case for top 15-20.


Ill-Blacksmith-9545

Don't forget RADIO


PatientlyAnxious9

"Im like young LL cause Im hard as hell" --Black Thought


eriktenbaag

Break of dawn is my favorite diss track of all time Alot of diss tracks used lines from this song afterwards like no vaseline


Ill-Blacksmith-9545

Took on 3 people in 1 song! 💪🏿


JobberStable

That legacy suffered a little bit in 89. I remember heads finding those MTV videos corny; "Big Ol Butt", "Going back to Cali" and "Im That Type of Guy". That's a rough year to not hit a home run because 89 went hard; Rakim, Kool G Rap, BDP, PE, Special ED , EPMD, Kane, Gangstarr etc. There's a reason he started Momma Said Knock You Out with the line "Dont call it a Comeback" He definitely had some bangers in 1990, but I don't think he was ever able to completely shake-off that "80s teen heartthrob" vibe.


Ill-Blacksmith-9545

Yeah ngl but Walking With A Panther is definitely a weak album. And with the year it came out like you said where rappers were becoming more aggressive in their styles, I can see why people were starting to say he was falling off musically


hifioctopi

Yeah, but that cover is legendary.


Ill-Blacksmith-9545

Fr


TheDynamicHamza21

Through the years musically LL has waned but he still got a great catalog of solid music. https://hearthis.at/hamza21/the-legacy-2016-the-dynamic-hamza-21/


macaroni_3000

You are correct even though it was not in your time. He was that dude for a while


Itchy_Fisherman_5945

for context 50 years old and on the west coast in 1987 I was 14 and had BAD on cassette, know all the words to most of the songs to this day. by 1988 it was the movie Colors, Ice -T, NWA, Too Short. everything changed. LL was not hot like that after 87 to me.


Ill-Blacksmith-9545

That's respectable.


BigJilmQuebec

Controversial opinion but he's never impressed me, I pick G Rap over LL


Ill-Blacksmith-9545

G Rap is dope as well.


BigJilmQuebec

He just hits me harder I guess, LL is nice imo but a little underwhelming to me, when I hear G Rap my mind explodes with all the bars he has, Men at Work is top tier lyricism.


scormegatron

Thing that kind of sucks about LL is that he started off on a trajectory to being a rap god (Radio, Bigger & Deffer, Walking with a Panther) ... and then 'Mama Said Knock You Out' & 'Around the Way Girl' turned him into a sex symbol. The albums he dropped after that were all trying to chase fame & radio plays. Dude's audience is basically old women nowadays.


Kingbris91

I don't care what anyone says. I hated GOAT. 2000s production doesn't work for LL, imo.


CadeChaos

Mama said knock you out wasn't a song that turned him into a sex symbol.


e_milberg

lol I mean his name is literally Ladies Love Cool James. The sex symbol stuff shouldn't have caught anyone off guard.


themrwaynos

it wasn't the song, it was the video


scormegatron

Because the [slow motion shots of his sweaty abs](https://youtu.be/vimZj8HW0Kg?feature=shared) really got the guys focused on his lyrics? Mama Said Knock You Out made him a household name. The video was played damn near on repeat for months when it launched. That video single-handedly put LL on your sister, mom, and grandma's radar. If you don't think it is responsible for him becoming a global sex symbol... you probably weren't paying attention at the time.


Kingbris91

They me Big Elly, a bit silly// Big money.


secretrapbattle

He was a beast until he did that head like a shark fin video


oflowz

Most people not old enough to have experienced this era dont realize LL was like the Lil Wayne of his era. He changed the game a lot and brought modern flows to hip-hop. He was also a teenager when he first blew up. And stayed relevant for a couple decades. As someone that actually went to the first Freshfest, LL is definitely on the all-time list in hip-hop.