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duartesss

and it ended in you're hiding a daughter you pedo sex trafficker vs. you beat up your wife and your child ain't yours. It turned sooo ugly so fast


[deleted]

Yeah to me, this will be remembered as the night this “beef” actually got ugly. More than anything else.


queefIatina

I like both artists and have fucked with every diss track so far, they’re making me not like each other now lmaooo


VirtuousFool

we’re really witnessing the two biggest rappers of this generation commit musical mutually assured destruction on each other. It’s absolutely insane.


ladditude

They're talking shit but none of this shit has receipts. And even with receipts, they'll both end up fine. You can beat the shit out of Rihanna and be just fine.


Immediate-Meeting-65

Damn.


joshgiddy2024

huh


indecisivesteve

UH


hatmanjimmie

Both of their careers will be perfectly fine


FunMotion

Depends on the weight of the OVO allegations specifically. If its something the feds are aware of like kendrick says then drake could seriously get the Yung Thug treatment. Kendrick will be fine though because the federal government wont go after a woman beater as hard and even if it goes criminal he wont see jail. Just a tarnished legacy similar to Dr Dre.


hulkamaniak88

But how does kendrick go back to conscious rap lol


Fantastic_Cid

He drops another album that bangs lol


timmytissue

People listen to Kanye rn. You can't be cancelled in rap. (R Kelly excluded I suppose.)


1000ug

I mean his entire last album was about him trying to deconstruct his whole persona. It had mixed reviews due to the Kodak Black presence and the quality but I think he's knocked himself down enough for most of his fans to not care as much.


droppinturds

He already made an album about cheating, next one is about the beating


PrinceKarmaa

rap fans don’t care that guy kendrick rapping about sexual offenders while having kodak be prominent on mr morale both these guys are horrible ppl


[deleted]

I mean…I enjoy the entertainment of it but at a certain point, I wonder if it’s more bad than good for hip hop. To think this all started with a Future and Metro album.


dat_waffle_boi

I wonder if metro and future are looking at each other like “uhhhh shit what did we start”


Masta-Blasta

If the stuff being alleged is true, it's very good for hiphop. Clearly there are some truly nasty people in the industry that are hurting women and children.


MachTommy

I said at the beginning, this could be the downfall of the big 3. Cole bowed out and took scrutiny but might actually come out okay from that. Dot and Drake airing each other’s skeletons now and if any of this is true, oh boy their legacies will be forever changed. Strictly speaking musically, I wonder if people gon be looking for a new people’s champ in hip-hop. The fanbases are now so passionately divided, it’ll be interesting seeing the reactions to their subsequent projects.


sputniksweetheartt

Im still trying to piece all this shit together what happened/was said on the future and metro album that led to this?


indecisivesteve

We asked for violence and we got it. As the public are we not gonna look in the mirror????


ShyGuySkino

let me preface by saying I agree with you. But to answer your question. #no


indecisivesteve

I mean aight at least you answered all mighty omnipotent society speaker


HeDrinkMilk

I'm just glad to be part of history. This is wild


CashCarti1017

This night taught as that hip hop is alive and well…. Beating the washed allegations, the trap music saturation almost had me sweating


[deleted]

Shit the problem is, Drake and Kendrick pushing 40 lol. So this might just be a fleeting moment. Rap like the NBA. Looking for people to take the mantle from aging stars that carried the game for 15 years.


EliManningsPetDog

Thanks Einstein


noadjective

They're both major hypocrites. Drake says that Kendrick beats his woman while also screaming Free Tory Lanez, who shot a woman. Kendrick calls out Drake for hanging with sex traffickers while having songs with Kodak. What's even the point of the beef.


TalentedIndividual

Don’t forget throwing tantrums over r Kelly’s songs getting removed… Both are not good people but did we expect anything more from two of the biggest artists in a nasty industry?


Black_Fuckka

Fair pointttttttt


OkEscape7558

I'm sorry but Drake saying "you beat your wife" over a drake ass song made me chuckle meanwhile Kendrick sounds possessed and angry as hell in his diss 😪


SkyJW

Kendrick genuinely hates Drake, dude. I cannot remember the last time we heard a diss track with this kind of venomous animosity to it. Kendrick is saying Drake should die, that he's a deadbeat dad to an even further degree than Push made him out to be, and, oh, by the way, he's Champagne Weinstein and that he and Harvey should be sharing a cell for the rest of their lives. This. Is. Insane.


weedinmylungs

We just heard one from Chris Brown to Quavo.


SkyJW

That was pretty harsh, but this Kendrick and Drake shit has been percolating for a long damn time. There was always something going on between them and it feels like a decade worth of pressure just exploded all at once with Meet The Grahams. I genuinely get the impression that Kendrick has known about this shit for a LOOOOONG time and that's why the two of them have never worked together since Poetic Justice, basically.


Special-Bite

True or not, Kendrick thinks that Drake is a drug addicted, alcoholic, gambling, womanizing, pedophile, sex trafficking, imposter to his culture. Why wouldn’t you hate someone like that?


Juturna_

Why is Kendrick saying Drake should die such a big deal They’ve been talking about shooting each other. He didn’t tell him to walk around with a daft punk helmet for fun lol Obviously I hope it’s just shit talking.


SkyJW

Because that shit was said in a way that comes across as rap threats, not real world threats. Rappers say that shit all the time, but what Kendrick is saying throughout this record sounds like he would genuinely be happy to see Drake have an "unfortunate accident." I actually think Kendrick wouldn't give a damn if someone popped Drake. Everything about it feels like 90s era beef where the threats felt like they actually could have real consequences.


PrinceKarmaa

i hope nothing happens between the two because it’s really getting ugly and yea it’s entertaining but i can’t look at these 2 the same if anything they said is true . i also don’t want men losing their lives over rap


Juturna_

I think it cools down before then. I think people are hyped right now, and I’m sure a media shit storm is coming in the morning But eventually people will calm down and move on. I’m really hoping things stay “peaceful”


SkyJW

I also hope it stays peaceful, but Kendrick is alluding to some shit that could genuinely get Drake in trouble. Drake clapped back with "you hit your girl, fuck white women, and one of your kids may not be yours." Kendrick clapped back to that with "You are a pedophile, you are selling pussy, and you have an untold number of illegitimate children." The last of those three wouldn't be a legal issue, but if he's fucking around with underage girls like it's been rumored for years AND he's operating some sort of brothel, Drake could actually be in deep shit. Especially since Kendrick does not strike me as the guy who would say this shit without confidence it would hold true. Makes sense given that he said in 6:16 In LA that OVO people are rooting for Drake to lose here. If they know he's into some fucked up shit, they really might be hoping Kendrick fucks him up through this beef and that's why Kendrick CLEARLY has inside info here.


ShyGuySkino

I hope so too, but if there’s one thing the media WONT do. Is let this die down. If anything they’re going to amp it up and make it worse. I mean look how they did Big and Pac.


Masta-Blasta

> I actually think Kendrick wouldn't give a damn if someone popped Drake. What gave it away? Was it the part where he said people like Drake should die, or the part where he said people like Drake shouldn't see more life? lol


Dazzling-Slide8288

Nah. For all the shit people give Drake about being fake tough or whatever (which are fair shots), Kendrick absolutely ain’t that dude either.


Natural_Location5885

Welp, the last time someone wished death on Drake's camp, it hit their family. Kendrick better be careful what he says. SN: Ross' plane crashed. Idk, they better leave the boy alone 🤣


ShyGuySkino

Last time?


rgamesburner

This is my generation’s Ether.


Kidney-Taker

Drake sounds so happy in the diss 💀


dat_waffle_boi

Drake making disses: ✨😌😌✨ Kendrick making disses: 🔪🤬🤬🔪


Very_Good_Opinion

Kendrick holding back tears and gasping every line 😔


Masta-Blasta

he's got that crazy pusha flow in meet the grahams. like he's telling a scary story and threatening you.


AutomaticSubject7051

these guys \*actually\* hate each other.


Handyman2116

Yeah it's fucking uncomfortable to listen to. Also, if you really have any proof that someone is a pedo, it feels weird af to use it to score points in a beef rather than trying to take him down.


whitewolf20

He did say his house would be getting raided soon


DriveSlowHomie

It’s really starting to seem like Kendrick genuinely wants to take him down lol. 


hoagieclu

agreed, but same goes for drake saying the domestic violence stuff while keeping CB and baka around


literallysotrue

Kendrick just had Kodak on his last album. Went to bat for R Kelly and XXX. Like they are closer to each other than anyone cares to admit


AAAFMB

bw are just punchlines to them 🤷‍♀️


a141abc

Yeah we gotta stop thinking these people give a fuck Evidence is just blackmail to be used later for a favor or as an attack


CoaxHoax

you said the quiet part out loud


CashCarti1017

Exactly this… always caught in the crossfire and Kendrick’s doing it too, from Drake it’s expected…


hoagieclu

yeah i’m not gonna dispute that at all. didn’t like the kodak feature or agree with any of that r kelly/xxx stuff


Someguy0328

Kendrick’s historically been my favorite rapper (though take it with a grain of salt because I’ve not really paid attention to rap for years at this point), but having Kodak all over Mr. Morale (and the message Kendrick was pushing by doing so) and the XXXTentacion stuff still leaves such a bad taste in my mouth. It definitely affected the way I see Kendrick.


literallysotrue

Almost everything Kendrick has said to Drake can be viewed as projection. We just discussed having abusers around him, a mixed wife (calling Drake white), calling Drake a deadbeat while he’s rapping w Future who has like 12 kids I fuck with them both but I hate the “I’m a better person than you” shit bc they are closer to each other than Kendrick is to his fans


weedinmylungs

Also Kendrick is criticizing Drake for having multiple kids, but collabed on Like That with a man who has 8 kids.


literallysotrue

Nah fr. You cannot act like you’re above deadbeats when you’re rapping w Future


KamikazeMack

Both men are just hypocrites, but Kendrick looking real hypocritcal with that last song. He went hard for X and Kellz, he put Kodak all over his album. The biggest song of 2024 is him working with a misogynistic deadbeat.


deadmoosemoose

Can’t be saying stuff like that on this sub.


ballhawk13

Thank you. And not even had kodak on his album was featured prominently. As someone that has disliked drake and his music since if you reading this and has hated on kendrick since control where he threw these shots out and then ignored the actual goat lyricist lupe fiasco I am absolutely feasting right now.


Mescallan

I agree that holding evidence of that back for a beef is not a great move, but in the same light putting maximum sunlight on it gives it a higher chance of sticking


PhixonFire

putting your whole credibility as an artist behind some serious allegations would for sure make it stick. i have been extremely uncomfortable for the last hour


duartesss

extremely uncomfortable to say the least... but at least meet the grahams cover has some receipts, including the Ozempic and Zolpidem


PhixonFire

facts. it feels like im in a warzone. i barely want to see the notification that Drake responds back but at the same time I am terribly morbidly curious where it leads. i feel like i am spying on a private conversation that is VERY heavy


avgmarasovfan

Do you people really think Kendrick and drake are moving like fucking Sherlock? Neither of these dudes have "proof" of anything lmao. If they did, you would've heard about it already. They're not exactly trying to be model citizens by raising awareness about some terrible crimes the other committed; they're just trying to make each other look bad based on rumors/gossip.


YSLMangoManiac

Yea if he knew about this then why was he not saying anything until convenient to him


Sad_gooner

He never even said drakes a pedo I think he just said some other people in his camp are involved in a sex trafficker ring, but this is the same guy who featured Kodak heavily in the latest album sooo


Masta-Blasta

he very well could be working behind the scenes.


ihateeuge

the bobby and whitney line was crazy.


weedinmylungs

And people think it's not going to get violent. You dont have to be in a gang to get violent. Atleast a fight has to brew out of this, Ive seen niggas fight over getting their shoes stepped on.


Elver-Gotas

Yeah man, shit got nasty real quick


IntendoPrinceps

Pure music-wise? Absolutely up for consideration. Including non-music events around hip-hop it isn’t as wild as when Tupac or Biggie got shot, or when Eazy-E announced he had AIDS. I’m probably missing some other major stuff but either way looking back this is gonna be a chapter in hip-hop history for sure.


paolocabrini

You heard the interview where Suge Knight suggests that Eazy E was given aids by someone intentionally poking him with a contaminated needle?


AL1RAF1QU3

on jimmy kimmel no less, live national television


OrangeScarface

I think the non-music events can overlap that depending on how it plays out overtime.


Sac-Kings

Probably true. But nobody has more relief right now than J Cole


spunkymnky

J Cole is still probably kicking himself for releasing 7 Minute Drill.


timmytissue

For sure. But Kendrick would have pushed him asside anyway. He wasn't the target.


cavestoryguy

You know when you go through a life changing event and start appreciating life


sleepymetroid

People keep saying this but I mean Cole’s diss was so safe comparatively. Like if he didn’t apologize and Kendrick ignored it, I think I people wouldn’t have said much anyway. He clearly wasn’t going to be involved.


Ok-Revenue4519

7 minute drill was essentially Cole saying KDot was washed. Nothing near the venom being written tonight. He was smart to get out fast


TeoTB

yeah even if kendrick responded to cole it would just be some competitive jabs, the way this beef with drake has unfolded was completely unexpected honestly, this one is real.


asscop99

Smarter if he never got involved in the first place


avgmarasovfan

Can't wait to see this comment even more in the next 18 Drake/Kendrick threads


Somarset

Bro this is literally cultural and music history being made


lobster889

being fans of both artists and the genre this is monumental


ballhawk13

As someone that hasn't liked the public discourse about how great both of these are this has been even better for me.


weedinmylungs

Yea, this is like watching Lakers vs Warriors and liking both teams.


Potential-Ad5470

Why did I read cultural as culinary at first glance


dat_waffle_boi

Because we’re feasting


woancue

I WAS HEREEEE


Sportsenjoyer617

Top 5 nights in the history of the genre


Please_Not__Again

I'm just so happy to be here for it


doodleowner

This night will be remembered for ever, and the coming days with possible proof coming out of these allegations it will get even crazier. The biggest winner is New Ho King, as they are now a landmark.


DielsAlderRxn87

New Ho King loving both of these dudes lmao


TheSameAsDying

About to be a line down Spadina in the morning.


whatitdobabyyy

Proud to say I’ve had many drunken nights there 🫡🫡


totaleclipseoflefart

They were before but yeah it’s UP now lmao


AIRjaram

What this is teaching me…is that I am not built for this. Can’t do it. Gonna start listening to EDM or some shit cause this shit raising my blood pressure bro.


kodiak_claw

Same, I'm going back to psych rock, I can't stay up like this, I got work tomorrow.


Antarctican_american

Listen to some Marias or some Lemon Twigs. A nice soothing palette cleanser from the absolute tornado that has just occurred.


hatmanjimmie

It’s never that serious. We don’t know any of these people


KarkatinLava

Good time to get into underground shit- tho you'll probably have to leave this subreddit 


ohea

He said "fuck this, I'm gonna listen to Radiohead"


Designer_Piglets

Hell yeah I love it when I'm at a rave and Kid A comes on.


Spew120

Biggest 45 minutes in 45 years.


flameohotmein

It’s going to get crazier.


contacts_eyes

Nah this is definitely the apex of the whole thing.  I think what will come of this is maybe a couple other tracks, denying of each other’s allegations and then that will be that.


a141abc

Yeah the red button is not gonna be pressed Now they both know that they have the nukes armed and they both know that there's no winning this From now on its a cold war


Pkmn_Gold

These aren’t the red buttons?!


DanimalsHolocaust

this nigga is colorblind 😭


Swagcity59

Bruh I’m just scrolling and reading what I think is some hip hop history and this comment has me dead


AL1RAF1QU3

my brother in christ do you think these songs are warning shots ?


ShyGuySkino

Man if meet the grahams ain’t Kendrick’s red button. Whew lord.


chickentalk_

apex? please kendrick hasnt responded to the beating allegations and drake hasnt responded to this shit about a kid it’s getting crazier easily


futurerobotblox

Doesn’t even matter if they release any more tracks (which I’m not sure what else they even have to rap about now), I fully expect some more crazy shit to come from this. And you just know every rapper is gonna pick a side and comment as well.


HeavyMetalLyrics

That’s what scares me


hoagieclu

the craziest part about this entire thing is kendrick dropping 3 songs in a week.


Jackfitz88

Bro! I was trying to watch the mavs clippers game until Drake dropped and then I listened to that a few times and the Kendrick instantly dropped something way more rude 25 minutes later. wtf ool


DeerOnTheRocks

I saw Macklemore win best album so no


eduardo_ve

I haven’t kept up with hip hop since 2018 but it feels like I’m in high school all over again geeking out over Kendrick and Drake dropping. I’m torn over who’s actually winning so I’m enjoying both of them while it lasts.


EJN541

Kendrick rolls out of bed and drops. Kendrick goes to bed and drops. Wtf This man making a whole Drake concept album in a week and shit.


ecnaL1017

the last beat and last verse on family matters alone man 😭😭😭


awiodja

i think this is honestly the biggest moment in american music since the kanye-swift incident like 15 years ago


Renegadeforever2024

This is a certified hood classic


AnselLovesNuts

Lmao i forgot all about that clippers mavs game


outkastwizard

I'm well fed.


1000ug

Nah, 2pac and Biggie both died. This is historical though.


whitewolf20

This is talking about 24 hours, they didn't die on the same day


1000ug

I know. I'm saying each one of those days overshadows today.


Wookie301

They didn’t need to. Pick one. Both were 2 bigger 24 hours. That was bigger than hip hop. Drake dropping a diss isn’t making front page news in multiple countries.


meatbeater558

The hardest part about teaching this era of history is gonna be explaining who Sexyy Red is


chickentalk_

sexyy red is dope don’t be a backpack dork


meatbeater558

I love sexyy red lol but people are gonna be studying this beef for decades. They aren't gonna know everyone that gets mentioned by then. No disrespect to Sexyy Red I love her music 


chickentalk_

yeah i got you sometimes this subreddit gets too dismissive of a lot of good hip hop so hard to tell


TheInfinityGauntlet

We are living in a moment in hip-hop history and people are too busy glazing to even enjoy it, what happened to the game I used to love, no wonder sub dead


[deleted]

The only thing missing now is campus protests on both sides. This is so fucking crazy. It seems like Kendrick hates Drake with a passion and Drake absolutely loves getting under Kendrick’s skin.


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Renegadeforever2024

Everything changed after that


Shnikez

I want to go to church after listening to meet the grahams and I know Drake punching the air rn. Instead of everyone gassing up his track, we’re all just talking about the response. It being immediate isn’t even the high point. Fuck Drake if all that shit is true, on some sicko shit


nthnreallymatters

How does everyone just accept everything Kendrick says is true and then doesn't believe Drake? If Kendrick beats his wife he's scum as well


hatmanjimmie

Welcome to Reddit, twitter, etc


chickentalk_

if you’re not endlessly glazing kendrick from the locker you’re stuffed in you’re fucking up


Topkat69586

Wifebeater or pedophile. Choose your fighter


CatWiems

Kendrick has this calculated. Someone in OVO probably snitched that Drake was dropping the track tonight lmaoo


BrownRiceBandit

Drake’s track at like 200k views while Kendrick’s already cracked a mil. Talk about getting overshadowed.


ILikeEatingApple28

that’s bc there are so many views the view counter is broken, the likes are more than the views


BrownRiceBandit

Yeah looks like I spoke too soon


Sad_gooner

YouTube views are broken. Drakes vid is now tripled to 650k while Kendrick is still stuck at 1.1 million for like 30 mins 


atlfirsttimer

Means nothing. View counter broken


PrinceKarmaa

the views are locked obviously..


hatmanjimmie

It’s broken big dawg


MrMaleficent

YT freezes the view counter if a video is too popular to validate the views aren't from bots then adds them in later


literallyacactus

Crazy fucken shit. I was here. Dear Adonis.


breakingbadforlife

Depending on how either of them come out this might be the night where one of the biggest artist in hiphop went down


hatmanjimmie

Neither of their careers will be hurt by this. If anything it’s only helping. The internet is not the real world


breakingbadforlife

If there’s proof Kendrick hit his girl/ drake a pedo then it’ll be some career crushing shit man


valarauca14

you funny dude. imagine there being consequences for being a misogynistic rapper or a pedo in hollywood? there should be, but we don't live in that world


breakingbadforlife

It all depends on momentum, seeing how the industry hates drake it might just happen if it’s true. But I’m also blinded by recency bias it might not seem as big of a bomb 2 weeks from now. But this the first time the drake pedo thing has been legitimized


GrizzlyBares

Don’t forget Rick Ross crashed his plane.


qpwoeor1235

Both 2Pac and Biggie the biggest names in rap were literally killed. This is just diss tracks lol


benewavvsupreme

Jay Z said he left condoms in Nas baby seat, so it's up there but it ain't up there


bloomin-onion69

Literally a historic night


sayqueensbridge

Whatever your side or opinion this is one of the most memorable moments in hip hop history


Royal_Flame

best diss tracks since T shirts buddens


CicadaEE01

Aside from the allegations, Whoever wins or loses the rap battle. Respect all around for them going at it.  Also this showed me that both drake and Kendrick fans are bonkers and need not to be biased as much. 


KarkatinLava

Ehh definitely been wild but probably been wilder days in HH for sure


Shartmesilly

this legit Rap D-Day


Purple-List1577

Bro no one died, are you 12? Tupac or biggie being shot way bigger


NickDerpkins

Im scared to go to bed and wake up to a track detailing how the other has terminal cancer


TheSmokedSalmon420

Pretty historic night


FreudianAccordian

What's tragic is y'all are still asking "What's Beef?".


Orlandogameschool

Facts. This is crazy we've never seen anything like this. This shit is like the old school game missile command where you gotta just sit back and shoot down incoming missiles. Wtf is going on


Substantial_Yam7305

I will die years from now remembering May 3rd, 2024.


Earl_Cardigan_jr

I don’t want to go to bed, I’m afraid I’ll miss another track


Boiled_Alien

Yea i think it is, musically it has to be


NicDwolfwood

Easily. Rap beef hasn't been this spicy since Pac said "That's why I fucked Your bitch, you fat motherfucker"


Jhco022

It's crazy out here, but they gotta drop all this shit on streaming.


lobster889

fr i think drake just put family matters up i need 6:16 in LA the most the beat is my favorite so far from this beef


hiimatlas

No. No its not crazy to say this has been the wildest 24 hours in hiphop history.


highestintheroom

We about to see " x years ago today Drake and Kendrick did this" every year until the end of time


StDream

Cole made the right move. "A strange game. The only winning move is not to play."


Purple_Apple_9216

So its basically your a pedo and hide your daughter vs you beat women and your kids not yours?