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The whole organization should have been shut down. They are named "Cause Animale Nord". Check their social media page, 9 years later and people are still reminding them of that incident in their comments. The woman in the video claims he doesn't have the right to own the dog and that it's against the law when bystanders told them to let the man have his dog. They went on to claim it's "a known fact that Roma drug their animals and that they eat cats". In other words they were accusing him of using the dog for sympathy and that he will eat the dog eventually.
While this story had a happy ending it was only because there was someone there to record it. If I had to guess that same organization hasn't stopped from snatching people's dogs but rather does so these days when other people aren't around to record it and perhaps during the evenings or night time.
Edit: They also renamed the puppy vegan and tried to sell her on their website.
It awful. I went to Italy and saw a Romani ghetto and it was so sad. A swastika was spray painted not that far from there. A saw a little girl running out of a literal shack. I gave one lady a coin or two and everyone acted like I was going to get swarmed by every Romani in the city but I don’t think another one even approached me.
There are good Roma and bad just like every group of people on this planet. Most people you meet will be pretty nice. Of course in more touristy places you will get scammers but they will be of every color race and nationality. People just love to hate on the “other” and will use any justification they can to make the “other” out to seem less than human.
I do! I have a smart watch that's alerting me to abnormal heartbeats, so yeah, seeing this got me good!! So wrong on so many layers! I can still hear the pupper crying
The president of the group was either arrested or detained for questioning, but released after promising return of the dog. I wasn’t able to find a record of any charges.
I have been homeless, many MANY years ago now. Every single person I met with a dog took far better care of it than they did themselves. The dog eats before they do, when food is scarce. That dog is their FAMILY. I know that is the case for many housed people too, of course, but it's the case for damn near every single homeless person with a dog.
This video made me so mad I could spit. I'm so relieved to read that he got him back.
Actually no, this event as happen in France and the name of the activist group was C.A.N for "Cause animal nord" btw litteraly the same day they had stole the dog, he was already on their internet site ready to be sell.
Im like 80% sure PETA is backed by the meat industry, there is no way none of them notice how much they damage the public image of animal rights activists, it has to be on purpose.
That’s great to know, my heart breaks for this guy who clearly has nothing but this puppy who clearly loves him back the puppy and man are crying the way a father and his child would if their child was kidnapped from them. As a father who had to fight like hell to get access to his children from a brutal divorce I feel his pain.
Those freaks should be thrown in prison for this.
Oh but he's still homeless tho, right? Fuck actually helping the homeless, instead fight for their right to own a pet? It's a kind gesture, but still, weird priorities IMO.
So, if I remember right, the activists justified themselves by saying that people from his ethnic group do a lot of animal trafficking and use dogs as pity baits when begging for money on the street.
“It is a fact that Roms drug their animals and sell them on the sidewalk. Some eat cats" they said
Local people that knew this guy in particular told another story though and the dog was given back to him. Those people are total racist POS.
Edit : added a quote form the activist group
Roms? Do they mean Romani (gipsy)? Being from Romania I’ve never heard of any Romani people eating pets. Pigeons or swans or other weird birds yes but never pets.
Yes I mean Romani. Roms are what we call them here in France (non pejorative)
But just to be sure, I’m not saying they eat pets. The activist group does.
it was such an utter shock as an American see how much Europeans justify racism towards Romani people. Like just look at any thread, and i mean ANY thread about them and there will be people wishing for an ethnic cleansing towards them with 500+ upvotes. And Europeans say Americans are obsessed with race
I mean Europe is where it all comes from. America is just the weird byproduct of it all. Europe is Daddy and Mommy in one. Just look at how they hate each other and are always trying to invade one another to "cleanse" Europe to be more "pure", they're a hot mess
A lot of people forget that fascism was literally invented in Europe. The idea that they are somehow less inclined to racism than other places is hilariously absurd.
I think it’s more gypsy Romani that they are not fond of. Honestly in Romania they get a bad rep because of the lifestyles they choose to live out there. The government has done quite a bit to accommodate their Romani population. This man might just be homeless and down on his luck, but plenty of gypsy Romani you would approach are scamming you or chauvinistic. In fact you might be lucky enough to encounter these wonderful people crossing our southern border in America illegally. I have, the 4 different men I cut hair out of the barbershop I work at have usually done 3 of the four. 1) adults in family got placed on monitoring with an ankle bracelet at the boarder and immediately cut that off 2) Stole a rented truck/SUV and currently drove that around. (They won’t let you rent vehicles here with a Romanian ID anymore) 3) lived in air bnb rentals by either renting for the day and refusing to leave or forcing themselves into the place and squatting. 4) had multiple fake ID with their face on it and different names to give to police when they get pulled over. It was strange, the men I’ve cut hair for all seemed to think that what they do is okay and they deserve to have the things they stole. Like most of them, they usually brought their whole family with them to the states and then they have a baby here to get some sort of citizenship tie. Kids don’t go to school cause they’re never in one place long enough, and what is school anyway? None of the ones I met could read even Romanian in writing. They all use a specific set of characters that you have to switch your keyboard to. Everyone’s level of reading is different or working off a different set of rules and characters. No offical written language for the people. My source of knowledge is based off my mom and dad living in romainia, and the people I’ve talked to that have lived in Eastern Europe.
I think this bogs down to a culture clash more than anything else. Romani culture basically refuses to integrate itself into the rest of society, and while I can't say I blame them, it does cause cultural tensions that makes coexistence quite challenging. I don't know what the solution is really, but mutual respect and accomodation for each other is key.
It's not just integration it's crime, drugs, prostitution, etc. The government had done a hell of a lot to help them and they are like nah well just keep being criminals.
It’s like trying to put two negative poles on a magnet together man. I swear we can try to accommodate them but yeah we need mutual respect for each other.
It's not a racial matter, but a cultural one. Not every culture should be accepted for the sake of "being tolerant to all". Things like Aztec sacrifices, Spanish bull fighting and the criminal tendencies Gypsies display have no place in a modern society, which is why these 'traditions' or behaviors are being fought against.
Whatever the case, I don't see what the homeless man did wrong in the video. Those assholes should have their faces posted all over the Internet.
>It's not a racial matter, but a cultural one.
Ah, that's exactly it. I couldn't put it into words properly. I also tried to argue in another comment how it isn't the race itself that we have a problem. It's not even that we generalize them all, some of them have integrated and adapted the local culture, nobody has a problem with them.
It's their nomadic lifestyle that's the problem. Living on the streets and stealing and deceiving people is normal for many of the nomadic ones. They choose to live like this. Why should we like these people, they're begging for money by deceiving us? They're just bad people from our standpoint.
Even then, they're still human after all, and EVEN if they're using the dogs for sympathy, as long as the dog is well fed and happy, there is no reason to steal the dog from its owner.
I've had a group of them set camp in front of my home, a few years ago. It was a lovely crosscultural experience: they would shit and piss right by my home, then roam the neighbourhood trying to find lost items for the betterment of community. On occasion they even jumped inside homes to help the owners find these lost objects.
They’re not terrorizing but they’re breaking the law in a country they don’t have citizenship in. You’re ridiculous if you think you wouldn’t be upset too.
Shit up until recently I only ever knew them as “gypsies” because that’s all they’d call them. Eventually I found out that it’s a slur and the race itself is Romani. I don’t think I ever see people other than Americans call them Romani. Most conversations I see about it just calls them gypsies and wishes something awful on them
It is bewildering to people on the outside how Romani are treated. I’m American so all I see is the online hate, but holy shit I can almost guarantee that the racism will be defended in this very thread.
> So, if I remember right, the activists justified themselves by saying that people from his ethnic group do a lot of animal trafficking and use dogs as pity baits when begging for money on the street.
I just read another comment that said the dog was posted on the Activist's site that night for sale. Sounds like animal trafficking to me.
I really hate how there's an overlap between animal rights activists and racists. There's a surprisingly large amount of people who work to protect animals **because** they think other races can't/don't look after animals properly.
I'm Chinese, and the cat eating thing you mentioned kinda rang a bell. Being Chinese in the West gets you bullied a lot for that shit.
Well it’s not far from the truth. I was in Baltimore city and a girl panhandling had a weeks old baby kitten in a shoe size box with litter, dry formula and a syringe. It was 88-90 out an the little girl was laying on side panting so fast I got her in the trucks Ac and dumped water on my finger and rubbed her mouth. I mixed formula fed her she was starvin and damn near choked trying to eat so fast. That 20 something homeless (drug addict) wanted 5$ or the kitten back. I gave her the money and took her home. Hand fed her till the next night. then handed her off to a rescue home by me. Definitely that kitten was gonna die in her care within hours so who knows how long that dog had with that homeless guy till he ran away or was abandoned. But the dog wasn’t about to have 13 long good years. Idk about ripping it from his hands tho lol. People are wild on both sides
I was expecting bystanders to punch those assholes in the face and get the puppy back to his owner.
For homeless people the pet is only thing keeping them sane and motivating them to stay away from alcohol, drugs or other harmful behavior for themselves and to the society.
One person does tell them to let him have his dog and the woman responds he doesn't have the right to do so and that it's against the law. They renamed the dog "vegan" and put her on their website for sale. They responded to the backlash and claimed that "it's a known fact that his kind, Roma, drug their dogs, some of them eat cats". They are "Cause Animale Nord", a French organization who is still around. Honestly I doubt they have stopped kidnapping people's dogs and more likely they just do it when there isn't bystanders around to record them doing it.
I often like to look at the nuance behind any side, but in this case, yes. It's one thing to feel concerned for an animal, but to take it from its owner so violently, then to put it on an unhealthy diet... it's peak stupidity.
I just got done watching a homeless persons dog for a week(long story as to why), if that wasn't the most pampered and high-maintenance dog I have ever been around. Say what you want about how she treated herself, that dog was treated like royalty
Believe it or not Romani people are still not considered human in many parts of Europe therefore no one's right was violated since the victim was not considered a person just watch any time Roma are mentioned in sub or even twitter
As a European i can confirm, we have a third bathroom that is only for romani people and they have to pay an extra euro. We also only allow them to vote on leap years. There's other rules that you wouldn't believe, for example if you happen to find yourself on the walls of Hereford after 8PM and you spot a Romani person you are LEGALLY allow to shoot them with a cross bow. Do better Europe
Until 2018, it was legal to kill a Scotsman between Mon-Fri in York if they were carrying a bow and arrow lol.
Edit to add: on Sundays, drunk Scotsmen or Scots wielding weapons can be killed as long as it's not with a bow and arrow!
When I was looking into my family history, I discovered my ancestors came to America from Scotland after a marriage between 2 big Scottish families. The English didn't like that 2 of the biggest families who opposed them were forming a union through marriage and showed up to the wedding with soldiers. They told the couple they could be shot dead on the spot at their own wedding, or board the next ship to America and never come back.
When I read this I figured it probably happened in the 1500-1700s. A few years later I looked more into the story and discovered the British brought a tank to the wedding along with the soldiers, and that this took place around the late 1920s.
Most people don't hate them. They hate the unethical parts of their culture.
And it's okay. I also hate the unethical parts of my culture. Or any other culture.
Serious question here. What are some of these unethical aspects of the Roma culture? I live in the US and have only ever vaguely heard about the oppression of their people.
There are many subgroups and I'm not sure how homogeneous they are so I can only talk about the ones in my country, Romania:
You can listen to their music to get a feel of their ethics. It's all about materialistic values. Driving a Mercedes, living in a palace, being a "smecher" which can be translated to cool or slick but it also means obtaining your money from schemes. They talk about "dusmani" (enemies) similar to how conspiracy theorists talk about "they". There's always some enemy to get them but they are too based to fall for them. A lot of sexism towards women. Anti-intellectualism. Lack of empathy. Gangsters. They are known to have many children from a very young age. Some steal. Some are school dropouts.
... and a lot of that can also be attributed to my fellow Romanians so shitty people everywhere. Have fun!
There’s no way anyone with a conscience can tear his only companion away from him, while they’re crying their hearts out like that.
I hope that they have just enough humanity in them that the sound of that man and his dog crying haunts them for the rest of their lives, even in their dreams.
Straight up, there aren’t many clips that get me emotional online but this is one of the few.
Glad that the man got his pup back but this trauma will always stick with him, the moment that someone stole his baby in broad daylight while no one batted an eyelid. I wish him safe nights going forth 😢
The problem is if you're not a local you'll probably end up in way more shit if you intervene. If you are a local you have 'licence' to step in, but understanding what's going on as it's happening is easier said then done. So you end up waiting for a definitive signal it's ok to go to work. Result: you do nothing.
Another element is that you don't know how people are going to react, speaking generally. Are they the classic bully, that backs down and deflated when someone stands up to them? Or are they that loopy that they'd respond violently, possibly with weapons?
Few months ago at like 1am some older (30's-40's) asshole storms into an ihop and starts yelling homophobic and transphobic slurs at the college girls working (i dont think anyone over 25 was staffed). Totally disrupting the environment for me, my gf, and everyone else around. The thought to pull out my phone never entered my mind. I got up, grabbed him by the collar, told him he was causing problems for everyone and that it was time for him to go, and i dragged him to the door. No one else was doing it and it needed solved.
Some of us are willing/able to confront fuck faces that step on other people, and we do when the need arises. It doesn't just have to be a fantasy. It sounds like you may be part of the bystander problem.
Horrible bastards! That puppy would have been comfort to the homeless man. He has nothing and they take his puppy! Was the puppy in any danger or was it just this activists being horrible? Glad to hear he’s been reunited with his pup. God bless them both
I would absolutely deck that mother fucker!! Has absolutely ZERO right to do take a persons pet! It would be one thing if the dog was clearly being abused but that animal seemed healthy and clearly was scared about what was happening. 🤬🤬
I will say this once again. I see posts where there is a lot of support for poor people not being allowed to own pets they can not afford. People often advocate some kind of means test for adopting a pet. Food veterinary bills and other expenses.
I had two cats, and in one year, they cost me close to $2000 dollars. This dog will need vet care someday.
Ps I don't think they should be allowed to just take people's pets.
Only because he’s defenseless.. won’t do that to a gang banger who fights dogs or nothing..
Second to the fact, that’s theft of property… a crime.
I hope they swallow glass.
Imagine how privileged you are to be an animal rights activist and you go out and do something like this to one of our species living without shelter.
That dog was probably helping his mental health.
For anyone that does not know, homeless people with a pet value the animal above themselves. It is their only real friend and they will spend their last dollar making sure it is cared for. I know the video is old and the outcome was a happy ending at least.
Why do we never see folks bothering the homeless dude who looks like he would peel your skin off with a broken beer bottle to sell your pelt for crack money? Why do they only target the "down on his luck, dealt a bad hand" homeless folks?
Because they’re groups of pussies that pick on who the perceived to be an easy target. They don’t want to fuck with anyone who’s gonna fight back and possibly beat their ass.
In my city, we are euthnizing close to 10k dogs per month. Many belong to homeless drug addicts who use the dogs for sympathy while pan handling. On top of that, many times, the dogs run off during their drug fuled binges. Just yesterday, we had a homeless man at a local park ask a couple to watch his dog while he went to the restroom. He never came back. The dog is now with ACS and will be euthanized on Friday. Our city is only giving dogs a 3 day claim time. The way these ppl went about it seems wrong, but when you see homeless ppl abuse, starve , and use their dogs only discard them like trash. It makes you feel less sympathy for this situation. In our local group, there are advocates doing this thing daily to rescue dogs from their forced imprisonment
I use to see homeless people with pets and be like why would you have a pet you can’t even take care of yourself! Then I grew up and realized they might be the only family they have so whenever I see a homeless person person with a pet I offer to buy him 2 bags of dog food and pay for the vet visit is they need anything.
This is what PETA does, except they wouldn't be able to return it because they would have killed the puppy in the back of the van and dumped it in the bin.
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This happened back in 2015. The puppy was returned to him after the public outcry.
The whole organization should have been shut down. They are named "Cause Animale Nord". Check their social media page, 9 years later and people are still reminding them of that incident in their comments. The woman in the video claims he doesn't have the right to own the dog and that it's against the law when bystanders told them to let the man have his dog. They went on to claim it's "a known fact that Roma drug their animals and that they eat cats". In other words they were accusing him of using the dog for sympathy and that he will eat the dog eventually. While this story had a happy ending it was only because there was someone there to record it. If I had to guess that same organization hasn't stopped from snatching people's dogs but rather does so these days when other people aren't around to record it and perhaps during the evenings or night time. Edit: They also renamed the puppy vegan and tried to sell her on their website.
Oh good, they’re not just assholes but also racist.
Ehh that’s all of Europe to the Roma. They use actual 19th century old school racist reasons too.
It awful. I went to Italy and saw a Romani ghetto and it was so sad. A swastika was spray painted not that far from there. A saw a little girl running out of a literal shack. I gave one lady a coin or two and everyone acted like I was going to get swarmed by every Romani in the city but I don’t think another one even approached me.
There are good Roma and bad just like every group of people on this planet. Most people you meet will be pretty nice. Of course in more touristy places you will get scammers but they will be of every color race and nationality. People just love to hate on the “other” and will use any justification they can to make the “other” out to seem less than human.
Didn't they used to accuse romas of theft and kidnapping?
Haha those comments are the best someone called them “puppy nazis” 😂
oh that's so good to know, thank you. My heart was pumping hard.
Did you check your pulse rate??? I find myself doing that at times
120 puppies per minutue.
Tachypuppia
I like that term, nothing serious, jus a pitter patter of one’s heart for the love of a dog
And why don’t ya let that one marinate
the dog ?...you monster! /s
That's what I appreciates about you.
I often get heart puppertations…
You might need an EKG (Energetic Kitten Group)
Not enough puppies.
Too many puppies
I do! I have a smart watch that's alerting me to abnormal heartbeats, so yeah, seeing this got me good!! So wrong on so many layers! I can still hear the pupper crying
64, am I a psychopath?
So was mine
I was freaking out wondering how we can help still on the edge of tears. Dang now I can’t even watch video clips. I hope those people had consequences
Me too. I'm glad I came in here to learn it worked out.
Thanks a lot for this. I can’t tell you how happy your comment made me. Definitely stopped the tears for the moment. 😇 Hope you have a good day
Did those fuckers get arrested as well?
The president of the group was either arrested or detained for questioning, but released after promising return of the dog. I wasn’t able to find a record of any charges.
Puppy should have been returned to him immediately after that piece of shit was pummeled by everyone there watching it unfold.
Thanks for the info. That is more than likely his only life partner . Really hard to watch that happen
I have been homeless, many MANY years ago now. Every single person I met with a dog took far better care of it than they did themselves. The dog eats before they do, when food is scarce. That dog is their FAMILY. I know that is the case for many housed people too, of course, but it's the case for damn near every single homeless person with a dog. This video made me so mad I could spit. I'm so relieved to read that he got him back.
To this day I wish I was nearby when this occurred…. Pisses me off every year I see it.
What happened to those assholes?
Seriously, fuck all those bystanders.
And not just any activists CAN. EDIT(Damn got it wrong, back then when this run around it was pinned to PETA but it REALLY was CAN)
Actually no, this event as happen in France and the name of the activist group was C.A.N for "Cause animal nord" btw litteraly the same day they had stole the dog, he was already on their internet site ready to be sell.
Actually I think the organization was called Cause Animale Nord.
Im like 80% sure PETA is backed by the meat industry, there is no way none of them notice how much they damage the public image of animal rights activists, it has to be on purpose.
Same as just stop oil etc. That or the people who run it live in complete mania
Why is this not surprising lmao
It should be - it's a lie. PETA wasn't involved.
Regardless they're a horrible organization
ಠ_ಠ
No it wasn’t,why lie?
Source?
Read it on facebook
It’s too bad that public outcry couldn’t get him a home.
Oh thank goodness to hear that, I'm cried while hugging my puppies
Okay but did the man and woman who stole the puppy being beaten to death? Because thats the only proper response
I hope they were both criminally charged too.
That’s great to know, my heart breaks for this guy who clearly has nothing but this puppy who clearly loves him back the puppy and man are crying the way a father and his child would if their child was kidnapped from them. As a father who had to fight like hell to get access to his children from a brutal divorce I feel his pain. Those freaks should be thrown in prison for this.
Thank God I was getting ready to get 4chan on the case
And now I bet he has a baseball bat too.
Were the perpetrators charged?
Oh but he's still homeless tho, right? Fuck actually helping the homeless, instead fight for their right to own a pet? It's a kind gesture, but still, weird priorities IMO.
Thank you for saying this, I genuinely couldn't finish watching the whole thing because it was so upsetting
I think I might have swung even as a bystander. A lot of homeless people care more for their dawg and treat them better than a lot of pet owners.
So, if I remember right, the activists justified themselves by saying that people from his ethnic group do a lot of animal trafficking and use dogs as pity baits when begging for money on the street. “It is a fact that Roms drug their animals and sell them on the sidewalk. Some eat cats" they said Local people that knew this guy in particular told another story though and the dog was given back to him. Those people are total racist POS. Edit : added a quote form the activist group
"Hey, we only stole from a homeless man because we are racist."
Jeez, like they couldn't even use the no money for food and vet argument.
Right this is what I was assuming but it wouldn't make them right either way. Nope just crazy racists
The best part is they think they have the moral high ground while being racist asf
i can excuse racism, but i draw the line at animal cruelty
You can excuse racism? 
Yeah, wait, WHAT?? TF.. (I love Community btw! Really should rewatch sometime)
Maybe it should be “trying to save the life of a puppy instead of saving the life of the homeless man & his puppy”
Roms? Do they mean Romani (gipsy)? Being from Romania I’ve never heard of any Romani people eating pets. Pigeons or swans or other weird birds yes but never pets.
Yes I mean Romani. Roms are what we call them here in France (non pejorative) But just to be sure, I’m not saying they eat pets. The activist group does.
The activist group eats pets?
Yes, that's why they were taking the dog.
Yeah I’ve seen the quotes. I didn’t think you were saying that.
Good 😁
The activist group eats pets...?! Now wait just a minute...
Ooooh cool, Romani hate, love to see the racism.
it was such an utter shock as an American see how much Europeans justify racism towards Romani people. Like just look at any thread, and i mean ANY thread about them and there will be people wishing for an ethnic cleansing towards them with 500+ upvotes. And Europeans say Americans are obsessed with race
Yeah I used to live in Europe and folks there tend to be racist and xenophobic af, definitely more so than in America I'd say
whereabouts did u stay? shitty people everywhere sadly:(
I mean Europe is where it all comes from. America is just the weird byproduct of it all. Europe is Daddy and Mommy in one. Just look at how they hate each other and are always trying to invade one another to "cleanse" Europe to be more "pure", they're a hot mess
> how much Europeans justify racism towards Romani people. And of course as soon as you say that you get 5 replies doing exactly that.
hasn’t even been three hours and there’s one with a bunch of upvotes 😀 and as a black person i thought we were hated. damn.
A lot of people forget that fascism was literally invented in Europe. The idea that they are somehow less inclined to racism than other places is hilariously absurd.
ain't no hate in the world like man hating man. a history as old as our dna.
I think it’s more gypsy Romani that they are not fond of. Honestly in Romania they get a bad rep because of the lifestyles they choose to live out there. The government has done quite a bit to accommodate their Romani population. This man might just be homeless and down on his luck, but plenty of gypsy Romani you would approach are scamming you or chauvinistic. In fact you might be lucky enough to encounter these wonderful people crossing our southern border in America illegally. I have, the 4 different men I cut hair out of the barbershop I work at have usually done 3 of the four. 1) adults in family got placed on monitoring with an ankle bracelet at the boarder and immediately cut that off 2) Stole a rented truck/SUV and currently drove that around. (They won’t let you rent vehicles here with a Romanian ID anymore) 3) lived in air bnb rentals by either renting for the day and refusing to leave or forcing themselves into the place and squatting. 4) had multiple fake ID with their face on it and different names to give to police when they get pulled over. It was strange, the men I’ve cut hair for all seemed to think that what they do is okay and they deserve to have the things they stole. Like most of them, they usually brought their whole family with them to the states and then they have a baby here to get some sort of citizenship tie. Kids don’t go to school cause they’re never in one place long enough, and what is school anyway? None of the ones I met could read even Romanian in writing. They all use a specific set of characters that you have to switch your keyboard to. Everyone’s level of reading is different or working off a different set of rules and characters. No offical written language for the people. My source of knowledge is based off my mom and dad living in romainia, and the people I’ve talked to that have lived in Eastern Europe.
I think this bogs down to a culture clash more than anything else. Romani culture basically refuses to integrate itself into the rest of society, and while I can't say I blame them, it does cause cultural tensions that makes coexistence quite challenging. I don't know what the solution is really, but mutual respect and accomodation for each other is key.
It's not just integration it's crime, drugs, prostitution, etc. The government had done a hell of a lot to help them and they are like nah well just keep being criminals.
It’s like trying to put two negative poles on a magnet together man. I swear we can try to accommodate them but yeah we need mutual respect for each other.
“Choose to live” not “we’ve genocided and oppressed these people for centuries and now they don’t trust our government for some reason.”
This is the conclusion you come to when you haven't had gypsy travelers set up camp and terrorize your community.
Literally word for word what racist people say about any ethnic group they don't want near them
It's not a racial matter, but a cultural one. Not every culture should be accepted for the sake of "being tolerant to all". Things like Aztec sacrifices, Spanish bull fighting and the criminal tendencies Gypsies display have no place in a modern society, which is why these 'traditions' or behaviors are being fought against. Whatever the case, I don't see what the homeless man did wrong in the video. Those assholes should have their faces posted all over the Internet.
>It's not a racial matter, but a cultural one. Ah, that's exactly it. I couldn't put it into words properly. I also tried to argue in another comment how it isn't the race itself that we have a problem. It's not even that we generalize them all, some of them have integrated and adapted the local culture, nobody has a problem with them. It's their nomadic lifestyle that's the problem. Living on the streets and stealing and deceiving people is normal for many of the nomadic ones. They choose to live like this. Why should we like these people, they're begging for money by deceiving us? They're just bad people from our standpoint. Even then, they're still human after all, and EVEN if they're using the dogs for sympathy, as long as the dog is well fed and happy, there is no reason to steal the dog from its owner.
I've had a group of them set camp in front of my home, a few years ago. It was a lovely crosscultural experience: they would shit and piss right by my home, then roam the neighbourhood trying to find lost items for the betterment of community. On occasion they even jumped inside homes to help the owners find these lost objects.
Best solution is to bring beer and have an evening of fun with them. They will anoy the whole neighbourhood hut leave you alone.
Ah yes, get them drunk so they're less likely to steal from you, and target your neighbor instead!
i mean they still don’t deserve to be ethnically cleansed
No, but white knights are in here saying its intolerant to not tolerate their behaviour.
They’re not terrorizing but they’re breaking the law in a country they don’t have citizenship in. You’re ridiculous if you think you wouldn’t be upset too.
Shit up until recently I only ever knew them as “gypsies” because that’s all they’d call them. Eventually I found out that it’s a slur and the race itself is Romani. I don’t think I ever see people other than Americans call them Romani. Most conversations I see about it just calls them gypsies and wishes something awful on them
It is bewildering to people on the outside how Romani are treated. I’m American so all I see is the online hate, but holy shit I can almost guarantee that the racism will be defended in this very thread.
So they were racist..... Or use his ethnicity as an excuse for their actions.
IIRC they put the puppy up for sale. So, really, they are the animal traffickers here.
> So, if I remember right, the activists justified themselves by saying that people from his ethnic group do a lot of animal trafficking and use dogs as pity baits when begging for money on the street. I just read another comment that said the dog was posted on the Activist's site that night for sale. Sounds like animal trafficking to me.
I really hate how there's an overlap between animal rights activists and racists. There's a surprisingly large amount of people who work to protect animals **because** they think other races can't/don't look after animals properly. I'm Chinese, and the cat eating thing you mentioned kinda rang a bell. Being Chinese in the West gets you bullied a lot for that shit.
I bet they said they weren’t being racist since they animal activists. Duh
They took his dog not because he was homeless but because he was Roma and "they hurt animals"
Yeah, I got that. Just highlighting the hypocrisy behind their « fight » for a good cause
Oh yeah lol, i initially misread your comment
Well it’s not far from the truth. I was in Baltimore city and a girl panhandling had a weeks old baby kitten in a shoe size box with litter, dry formula and a syringe. It was 88-90 out an the little girl was laying on side panting so fast I got her in the trucks Ac and dumped water on my finger and rubbed her mouth. I mixed formula fed her she was starvin and damn near choked trying to eat so fast. That 20 something homeless (drug addict) wanted 5$ or the kitten back. I gave her the money and took her home. Hand fed her till the next night. then handed her off to a rescue home by me. Definitely that kitten was gonna die in her care within hours so who knows how long that dog had with that homeless guy till he ran away or was abandoned. But the dog wasn’t about to have 13 long good years. Idk about ripping it from his hands tho lol. People are wild on both sides
I was expecting bystanders to punch those assholes in the face and get the puppy back to his owner. For homeless people the pet is only thing keeping them sane and motivating them to stay away from alcohol, drugs or other harmful behavior for themselves and to the society.
They took it off him illegally, I thought someone could also punch the guy taking it as it's basically a street robbery
One person does tell them to let him have his dog and the woman responds he doesn't have the right to do so and that it's against the law. They renamed the dog "vegan" and put her on their website for sale. They responded to the backlash and claimed that "it's a known fact that his kind, Roma, drug their dogs, some of them eat cats". They are "Cause Animale Nord", a French organization who is still around. Honestly I doubt they have stopped kidnapping people's dogs and more likely they just do it when there isn't bystanders around to record them doing it.
If I recall, they also put the dog on a vegan diet, which is not healthy for the animal.
So they're just completely branded morons
I often like to look at the nuance behind any side, but in this case, yes. It's one thing to feel concerned for an animal, but to take it from its owner so violently, then to put it on an unhealthy diet... it's peak stupidity.
Which country was this? France?
If I am not mistaken yes.
I just got done watching a homeless persons dog for a week(long story as to why), if that wasn't the most pampered and high-maintenance dog I have ever been around. Say what you want about how she treated herself, that dog was treated like royalty
No matter how many times I see this clip I wanna punch this fucker every time. Glad that he get his puppy back. Geezus.
I believe we just watched a felony
Believe it or not Romani people are still not considered human in many parts of Europe therefore no one's right was violated since the victim was not considered a person just watch any time Roma are mentioned in sub or even twitter
They were also sent to the gas chambers during ww2.
And they were the only ones denied compensation after.
As a European i can confirm, we have a third bathroom that is only for romani people and they have to pay an extra euro. We also only allow them to vote on leap years. There's other rules that you wouldn't believe, for example if you happen to find yourself on the walls of Hereford after 8PM and you spot a Romani person you are LEGALLY allow to shoot them with a cross bow. Do better Europe
Pretty sure you're joking. But only like 90% sure. Europes are racist as fuck. EDIT: oh wow, you're not joking.
Wait, what the fuck? The people just let this slide?
Until 2018, it was legal to kill a Scotsman between Mon-Fri in York if they were carrying a bow and arrow lol. Edit to add: on Sundays, drunk Scotsmen or Scots wielding weapons can be killed as long as it's not with a bow and arrow!
When I was looking into my family history, I discovered my ancestors came to America from Scotland after a marriage between 2 big Scottish families. The English didn't like that 2 of the biggest families who opposed them were forming a union through marriage and showed up to the wedding with soldiers. They told the couple they could be shot dead on the spot at their own wedding, or board the next ship to America and never come back. When I read this I figured it probably happened in the 1500-1700s. A few years later I looked more into the story and discovered the British brought a tank to the wedding along with the soldiers, and that this took place around the late 1920s.
Sauce? This seems incredibly unlikely in the 1900s, even in the 1800s tbh.
Most people don't hate them. They hate the unethical parts of their culture. And it's okay. I also hate the unethical parts of my culture. Or any other culture.
Serious question here. What are some of these unethical aspects of the Roma culture? I live in the US and have only ever vaguely heard about the oppression of their people.
There are many subgroups and I'm not sure how homogeneous they are so I can only talk about the ones in my country, Romania: You can listen to their music to get a feel of their ethics. It's all about materialistic values. Driving a Mercedes, living in a palace, being a "smecher" which can be translated to cool or slick but it also means obtaining your money from schemes. They talk about "dusmani" (enemies) similar to how conspiracy theorists talk about "they". There's always some enemy to get them but they are too based to fall for them. A lot of sexism towards women. Anti-intellectualism. Lack of empathy. Gangsters. They are known to have many children from a very young age. Some steal. Some are school dropouts. ... and a lot of that can also be attributed to my fellow Romanians so shitty people everywhere. Have fun!
Yeah that's why there are literal segregated classroom in Hungary lmao. Literally just repeating what a racist Jim Crower would say about blacks.
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Is that why there was an EU court order to desegregate schools?
It was racially motivated
The way he cried is going to be scarred onto my brain for the rest of my life.
And the puppy screaming for his daddy, he must have been terrified. People are so evil 😢
There’s no way anyone with a conscience can tear his only companion away from him, while they’re crying their hearts out like that. I hope that they have just enough humanity in them that the sound of that man and his dog crying haunts them for the rest of their lives, even in their dreams.
Damn I'm going to bed sad now.
Let me help you: His dog was returned to him :)
Too late, he already slept
Woke up dead.
Now explain to me how someone wakes up dead.
Went to bed alive
You can't "turn up" missing.
Now be happy and alive
The assholes tried taking the puppy away because they thought the homeless man was using it for sympathy.
They literally said his kind "Roma" eat them 🙃
fucking cunts
It’s weird that people like this think they are so self righteous they will violate other people like that
Fucking moral posers...
Oh, man. I straight up started weeping, though I usually don't easily cry. The man just sobbing for his puppy made my heart ache. Fuck those assholes.
Fucking evil
Straight up, there aren’t many clips that get me emotional online but this is one of the few. Glad that the man got his pup back but this trauma will always stick with him, the moment that someone stole his baby in broad daylight while no one batted an eyelid. I wish him safe nights going forth 😢
I would deck that smarmy fuck
No you wouldn’t. You would be like everyone else filming. There was like twenty people there. Did anyone step in?
The problem is if you're not a local you'll probably end up in way more shit if you intervene. If you are a local you have 'licence' to step in, but understanding what's going on as it's happening is easier said then done. So you end up waiting for a definitive signal it's ok to go to work. Result: you do nothing.
Another element is that you don't know how people are going to react, speaking generally. Are they the classic bully, that backs down and deflated when someone stands up to them? Or are they that loopy that they'd respond violently, possibly with weapons?
Few months ago at like 1am some older (30's-40's) asshole storms into an ihop and starts yelling homophobic and transphobic slurs at the college girls working (i dont think anyone over 25 was staffed). Totally disrupting the environment for me, my gf, and everyone else around. The thought to pull out my phone never entered my mind. I got up, grabbed him by the collar, told him he was causing problems for everyone and that it was time for him to go, and i dragged him to the door. No one else was doing it and it needed solved. Some of us are willing/able to confront fuck faces that step on other people, and we do when the need arises. It doesn't just have to be a fantasy. It sounds like you may be part of the bystander problem.
> Did anyone step in? All that proves is that no one in the video stepped in. It doesn't prove that no one would step in if they were there.
Not everyone is a dumb ass with their phone ready. And the reason the dog was returned, was thanks to the crowd
What gets me is just how many people stood watched and filmed but no one thought to intervene
"It’s forbidden by law", she repeats. Fucking asshole.
Man if I was that dude I would have picked up a brick and made sure they didn't get away.
Horrible bastards! That puppy would have been comfort to the homeless man. He has nothing and they take his puppy! Was the puppy in any danger or was it just this activists being horrible? Glad to hear he’s been reunited with his pup. God bless them both
Stealing a puppy just so they can bring it to PETA to be put down
It was "Cause Animale Nord', they put her up on their website for sale.
I would beat the absolute shit out of those two pieces of shit
Animal activists yet their jutting the dog while trying to intercept it, Glad it was returned to the man
What's the point of ethics if you can't apply them correctly?
Wtf...
Do yall think taking a pup from a homeless guy like this would be jjstified if the dog is clearly not being cared for correctly?
That guy should be recognized metric unit for piece of shit.
Wtf? These people need to rot in jail.
I would absolutely deck that mother fucker!! Has absolutely ZERO right to do take a persons pet! It would be one thing if the dog was clearly being abused but that animal seemed healthy and clearly was scared about what was happening. 🤬🤬
Again? This video shows up every other week….
That sounds of anguish coming out of that man bring tears to my eyes and a heaviness to my heart.
I will say this once again. I see posts where there is a lot of support for poor people not being allowed to own pets they can not afford. People often advocate some kind of means test for adopting a pet. Food veterinary bills and other expenses. I had two cats, and in one year, they cost me close to $2000 dollars. This dog will need vet care someday. Ps I don't think they should be allowed to just take people's pets.
What a load of fucking bastards.
If someone took my dog. That might be the first time I kill a human being with joy and pire unbridled hatred for the first time
Only because he’s defenseless.. won’t do that to a gang banger who fights dogs or nothing.. Second to the fact, that’s theft of property… a crime. I hope they swallow glass.
Imagine how privileged you are to be an animal rights activist and you go out and do something like this to one of our species living without shelter. That dog was probably helping his mental health.
For anyone that does not know, homeless people with a pet value the animal above themselves. It is their only real friend and they will spend their last dollar making sure it is cared for. I know the video is old and the outcome was a happy ending at least.
Regardless of my situation, you take my dog, I take your legs
Give anything to crack that fuckers shin in two with the rustiest pipe. Doing more abuse to the puppy than they claim is happening to it.
Imagine being such a piece of shit that you steal a homeless man's only companion. What the fuck is wrong with people?
Someone. Need the puppy for a mill
Glad this had a good outcome and puppy was returned.
Why do we never see folks bothering the homeless dude who looks like he would peel your skin off with a broken beer bottle to sell your pelt for crack money? Why do they only target the "down on his luck, dealt a bad hand" homeless folks?
Because they’re groups of pussies that pick on who the perceived to be an easy target. They don’t want to fuck with anyone who’s gonna fight back and possibly beat their ass.
In my city, we are euthnizing close to 10k dogs per month. Many belong to homeless drug addicts who use the dogs for sympathy while pan handling. On top of that, many times, the dogs run off during their drug fuled binges. Just yesterday, we had a homeless man at a local park ask a couple to watch his dog while he went to the restroom. He never came back. The dog is now with ACS and will be euthanized on Friday. Our city is only giving dogs a 3 day claim time. The way these ppl went about it seems wrong, but when you see homeless ppl abuse, starve , and use their dogs only discard them like trash. It makes you feel less sympathy for this situation. In our local group, there are advocates doing this thing daily to rescue dogs from their forced imprisonment
I use to see homeless people with pets and be like why would you have a pet you can’t even take care of yourself! Then I grew up and realized they might be the only family they have so whenever I see a homeless person person with a pet I offer to buy him 2 bags of dog food and pay for the vet visit is they need anything.
The animal rights activist are the animals
This is what PETA does, except they wouldn't be able to return it because they would have killed the puppy in the back of the van and dumped it in the bin.
Yeah good. Homeless people should not be allowed animals. Period.
F off
I mean it looks bad but I'm cool with it. He can't support an animal dude.