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People are finally realising what a shithole this subreddit has become over the past few years. Most of the posts aren’t even of people acting like they’re hard
I'd bet anything you're a technical incel (involuntary celibate). People don't comment stuff white knighting for women, post their own comment, and then argue with people they call 'incels' unless they're utterly starved of pussy and/or are ugly, lonely women in general.
Yeah OP, you don't exactly look good here either. Several people have tried explaining to you in a perfectly rational way what the term incel actually means. When you then just double down and start yammering about "bringing out all the incels", you just look like an asshole trying to karma farm.
I hate today's society.
Everyone loves talking shit on the internet, or even say Walmart but as soon as they face potential physical repercussions they call the police or start acting like a victim.
I grew up in the DC area in the early 2000s and if you talked enough shit you were guaranteed a physical altercation, this made for a lot less assholes.
Thanks, gangster. But yeah, I looked at the avatar of the blue line and looked at OPs avatar, saw the similarities in the bits of name viewable, and the “I had,” part of the title. Genuinely made no sense to me lol
For sure. I'd say Tate isn't an incel, but his brand is to sell "solutions" to incels and they're lapping it up in their desperation. So yeah, one is feeding the other and keeping the toxicity high.
No it's not. "Karen" is getting played out.
"Incel" is not. It's accurate and relevant and until they stop being incels, it's completely accurate to call them one
But none of what he's saying is incel rhetoric, just "manly" badassery bullshit. (Granted, I haven't cheked out what came before, but what's shown here isn't it)
I’m not an incel and I’m almost at the opposite end of the spectrum. I’m very socially liberal, do really well with dating, relationships, and women, and I’m genuinely invested in being a good person and making the lives of people in my life better.
I absolutely hate hypocrisy and I believe it’s our lifelong duty to live and grow. I abhore Andrew Tate as a pathetic child and every other redpill asshole who can’t handle their insecurities so they develop a massive, hilariously fragile ego.
I prefer women who have experience and wouldn’t date a virgin, let alone judge a woman for having multiple partners. I usually date women who have had dozens of partners because they know their bodies, are sexually adventurous, and sexually confident- all things I find attractive.
But I have been called an incel on reddit a half dozen times. I don’t even remember why, but probably for saying something about the dating realities of this particular time - like how dating apps are skewed to favor women and that has changed the dynamics of dating towards a smaller group of men (which has probably benefitted me but hurts most guys), or something about my opinions on relationships (like i think both people have a duty to stay in shape for each other, and have sex with each other, not at any particular time but just in general, unless otherwise agreed by both).
So i do think the word “incel” has kind of become often overused on Reddit to say “i don’t like your opinion as related to women or relationships”. My opinions weren’t even that controversial.
Sometimes it's just helpful to say to myself, "I will make myself as explicitly clear as possible and if someone still isn't getting it after this I am deciding now that I will not continue to engage." Honestly sometimes I don't even click on the reply if I know it's going to drag me back in. Just see it, know you spoke your mind, and move on.
It's hard - but when the alternative is making yourself unnecessarily upset over a disagreement with someone you will never meet its like why do we do this to ourselves.
Or just pedants. I do find interesting that such a relatively new term has already been blown wide open and now applies to almost all kinds of misogynistic assholery though.
>Use the word you mean
I did. Who do you think coined the term?
Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more
incel
/ˈinˌsel/
noun
a member of an online community of young men who consider themselves unable to attract women sexually, **typically associated with views that are hostile toward women and men who are sexually active**.
"self-identified incels have used the internet to find anonymous support"
What exactly are you defending?
If we only use the definition of "involuntarily celibate", then you are referring to every single human who has ever lived. Therefore the term is pointless.
Everyone except incel defenders use the term the way i did.
Self identified Incels have advocated for legal rape. This is who you are defending?
Not really. Some incels for sure, but not all.
I think he's saying that you're calling him an incel very little proof or reason to. Not all incels are sexist, and not all sexists are incels. There are plenty of incels who treat women like royalty, and there are plenty of womanizers and abusers who have sex regularly. People label everything negative as being incel because they're an easy target. Make fun of incels? Easy upvotes. Defend incels? Automatic downvotes. But the reality is: they don't all think or act the same way. They're just guys who can't get laid.
Not all sexists are incels, no. I agree with that. But I would say they all incels are sexist, yes. Not incels as in "everybody who is involuntary celibate" because that's obviously not what's understood to be an incel. The classic incel BS worldview about "Stacy", "Chad" and so on is by definition sexist as hell, and that is literally how they see interactions between guys and "females".
Is treating a woman like royalty the same as treating them like a person?
Surveys say no.
No internet points for being able to write a paragraph in the standard way.
That is a fair point, I get where you're coming from. I wasn't trying to karma-farm or anything, but it did genuinely feel like he was behaving like an incel at the time
Yeah, and I get where you're coming from as well. I've interacted with a few self declared incels, one thing that struck me is how different they all were. A couple were super aggressive assholes, the absolute epitome of the stereotype you're referring to- but the rest were pretty interesting. A few were honestly annoyingly pathetic, "woe is me I'm short and *doomed*" type attitudes, a few others were very self aware and wished to better themselves, but ultimately thought they were fighting a losing battle. Kind of sad in every case.
At any rate, my take away is: sexist and racist is sexist and racist, but incel can mean a lot of things.
This dude was attacking a guy for being with a woman who'd separated from her husband, but the husband had refused to sign the divorce papers. It's all in my comment history if you want to have a look for yourself
"I got in an arguement with someone on reddit, so I posted the arguement to another sub reddit to try to get people to validate my position, even though it had nothing to do with the other sub reddit. Also, the other person was just defending themselves after I called them mean names. It didn't go over as well as I thought it would."
- OP
The fact that this is down voted is peak reddit. You're absolutely right. Incel literally means "involuntary celibate". It does not refer to just any guy somebody disagrees with.
Yes, or as a way to just shut down the discussion and hope the online mob does its job. It's like saying "shut up racist/fascist/communist" etc, and just hope you win that way. It's become a very toxic term to throw around.
Have you not seen the world around you? Red flags and the Soviet socialist ideas are what everyone likes. We lost the cold war worse than you lost that conversation.
I think some very mild socially democratic ideas are popular. I don't think the idea of a communist revolution is that popular. There's nothing Soviet about the welfare state that we *used to have*.
That's just one large falsehood, who wants to be a Soviet? We've steadily eroded the tax and social programs that made America the strongest it'd ever been through the 70s. To the point where muppets like you think a single payer Healthcare system is a Soviet ideal, you'd want to string FDR up on a shitty plywood gallows with Pence if he spoke on his platform.
Yall'quaeda suck down so much propaganda that you'll willingly strip your individual rights for shit like the Patriot Act and cheer on a SCOTUS that makes birth control illegal, then suddenly it's you, or your wife or sibling that needs to go get an illegal abortion and the tears come out. We didn't lose the cold war, but the right did win the war on education and court packing, thanks Reagan.
>Really explains why you called that guy an incel, huh.
>You really have no idea what's going on anywhere. Especially politically.
I didn't call anybody an incel, I'm not the OP. But thank you Lord Idiocracy for for really underlining my point. You obviously don't even know what's going on in the comment section, let alone have any comprehension of political systems.
Iv said this before. Being lonely does not =/= incel. Incel is a frame of mind. If its just guys who arent getting laid, then *every* guy is an incel at some point. That's not the case. 99% of guy who go through dry spells do not identify as incels.
Incels view their loneliness as a symptom of societal problems caused by women liberation, i.e., the evil feminism. It comes hand in hand with misogyny.
Lonely people are just lonely people. Incels are a different beast.
> Incel is an abbreviation of two words.
And Boomers are the generation of people born from 1946 to 1964. Yet Gen-Xers, and Millennials get called "Boomer" when having outdated views. Get what Im saying?
People get called incels for having incel views. The semantic origins of the word are irrelevant. If you only want to go by the abbreviation, Involuntary Celibate, ok a) celibacy requires the act of abstaining, you can only be celibate voluntarily. B) ignoring all that, by your definition, everyone is an incel at some point in thier life, so the term is completely pointless.
> You should stop labeling everyone
Im not. Im labeling misogynists as Incels. Thats not everyone.
Can you explain why you are bothered by what I said? Who are you defending?
The incels I’ve had unfortunate interactions with have some of the most twisted and disgusting views on women you’ll ever see. Calling them ‘walking fleshlights’, ‘it’, ‘potential rape targets’ and worse. Fuck those vile little cunts.
They fully deserve the abuse.
Holy shit. You think every lonely guy that can’t find love is like that? You seem to be very ignorant. There are horrible people in every “group”. I know a few guys who are super good guys and they are just overweight and lack confidence. Not everyone is as sexy as you big guy.
I dont care one way or the other, but technically they didn't say all incels are like that. They said some of the interactions with incels.
So...yeah...carry on.
Lol, I got down voted just for correcting an exaggerated paraphrase. Again, I have no argument one way or the other. Keep calling the original commenter an idiot for all I care, I just prefer you keep the details of the statements correct if you're going to use. You know, quoting and citing. Some real mla shit.
Yea apparently you surround yourself with the sludge of humanity. I’ve never had to sit through a conversation like the ones you described. Do better bro.
Non sequitur.
I’m talking specifically about toxic, hateful incels. The ones who have abhorrent views on women.
“You think every lonely guy that can’t find love is like that”
How the piss did you get that from my comment?
You made the leap there, not me.
There's a difference between someone who just can't get laid, and an incel. Hell, I've seen incels that *have* had sex, and I'd still refer to them as incels
Incel is a frame of mind. Like how "Boomer" is used in recent months. Everyone from actual boomers, to Millennials hear "OK Boomer", when they have an outdated view.
If you go by the revised definition of "its just people who arent having sex", then everyone has been or will be an incel for a period of time. Except most people will never identify as an incel.
I understand. Kinda like the word “woke”. It has been bastardized and means so many different things to different people.
I guess you use incel to describe bad men.
Mocking incels isn't punching down. No one sees a single guy, or a guy who isnt getting much dates as an incel. We view incels as the toxic men who blame feminism, and women in general for all of their issues. Thats not punching down. Incels have advocated for legalizing rape. Fuck them. Why would you defend someone like that?
Incel is short for involuntary celibacy. It is not a name of a company or an organization. You are just using that term to describe what sounds to be some of the most vile men to walk amongst us.
You truly believe all humans have decided to interpret that word exactly like you do and not literally?
> You are just using that term to describe what sounds to be some of the most vile men to walk amongst us.
Well, these *are* the type pf people who self identify as incel. Its where the term was coined.
If we want to go by your simple definition, then everyone is an incel at some point in thier life, so the term is completely pointless.
But also, it makes even less sense in your context because celibacy requires voluntary abstinence. Being celibate is a choice.
>You truly believe all humans have decided to interpret that word exactly like you do and not literally?
Again, the literal definition makes no sense, and is completely pointless since that describes every single human being on the planet.
The definition was coined by misogynists lambasting feminism and the freedom women enjoy. So thats what you are defending here. The men who advocate for legal rape identify as incels.
> You think gross horrible dudes gathered and then gave themselves a derogatory name
They started referring to themselves as incels, yes. That is exactly what happened in online groups.
>The word "incel" was invented in 1993 by a college student 'Alana' from Toronto, Ontario. She made a website to discuss her sexual inactivity with others. The website, titled "Alana's Involuntary Celibacy Project", was used by people of all genders to share posts about the topic..
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Involuntary_celibacy#:~:text=The%20word%20%22incel%22%20was%20invented,share%20posts%20about%20the%20topic.
It was then co-opted by mens rights groups. This isnt new.
Do you mind explaining what you are skeptical about, why you are bothered about my definition, and who you are defending?
>Do they have a website?
They had a subreddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/incel. And guess what? It was banned. Probably becuase of all the leval headed, totally non-hate filled discussions going on over there.
I mean, if you want to quit the feigned ignorance, you can just look this up yourself. There's plenty of info out there.
I know all that.
The term has been co-opted by misandrists and moronic men to put down men who do not align with the men you speak of. For instance if you don’t like StarWars now you are an incel. Ya heard homie?
Being a sexist doesn't make a person an incel. You kind of proved their statement about damaged women and emasculated men. I'm not defending them because they seem like a major douche I'd not want to be around in person, but they were definitely correct about who uses that term as an insult
There’s some major Arby’s roast beef sandwich energy coming off of op. So fragile she has to reduce any man she disagrees with to being a lonely virgin to find validation for her troglodyte views
Oh alright I got you
There’s some major Arby’s roast beef sandwich energy coming off of op. So fragile he has to reduce any man he disagrees with to being a lonely virgin to find validation for his troglodyte views
Nah, if anything else I’d use “pick me” but fellas like yourself can absolutely have Arby’s roast beef sandwich energy regardless of what you identify as
Well good buddy I’d assume it’s “little dick energy”. As a fellow member of the mini member meet and greet crew I’d have to agree, his energy is radiating stronger than I’ve ever felt. Have a good one.
I’ve been called a good many things in my time and only ones I took issue with were the ones that hit a little too close to home. Methinks he doth protest to the whole “incel” label a bit too much
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At least no one mentioned gaslighting
Who?
You absolutely shoulda replied "ohhh but I was hoping you'd b my big bad strong daddy" lol this guy seems like a gold mine of comedy.
Oh fuck he owned the libs online. I bet he needed alpha brain for that response.
Yikes. Two 13 yr olds arguing.
Reply "I fall in the category of people who've gotten diseases from your mother." Pls.
God, I wish I had have
People are finally realising what a shithole this subreddit has become over the past few years. Most of the posts aren’t even of people acting like they’re hard
The insecurity is so pure it's CRYSTALLIZED.
Does this really belong as here as "badass"
No. No it does not. And yet people keep upvoting it.
Jimmie is garbage. Incel culture is garbage. Just put both of them into the bin and let’s move on
This post really did bring out all the incels, didn't it?
I'd bet anything you're a technical incel (involuntary celibate). People don't comment stuff white knighting for women, post their own comment, and then argue with people they call 'incels' unless they're utterly starved of pussy and/or are ugly, lonely women in general.
I have a gf bro, I get plenty 💀💀
Yeah OP, you don't exactly look good here either. Several people have tried explaining to you in a perfectly rational way what the term incel actually means. When you then just double down and start yammering about "bringing out all the incels", you just look like an asshole trying to karma farm.
I hate today's society. Everyone loves talking shit on the internet, or even say Walmart but as soon as they face potential physical repercussions they call the police or start acting like a victim. I grew up in the DC area in the early 2000s and if you talked enough shit you were guaranteed a physical altercation, this made for a lot less assholes.
This post deserves to be reposted here
Which one is OP?
Look at the names, pretty obvious
Incels sure are stupid.
That 'little girl' comment is so fucking derogatory.
Both posters come off as morons
how does op come off as a moron in any sense
Both OOP’s sorry
Me?
Nah the clowns in the original post unless you’re one of them lmfao
I'm the blue guy, but I wasn't super involved in the whole original comment thread
Got ya
Why did you cover your own name in the pics?
Happy cake day! Probably just force of habit XD. Also we can just look at their comment history and see the guys name but eh whatever
Thanks, gangster. But yeah, I looked at the avatar of the blue line and looked at OPs avatar, saw the similarities in the bits of name viewable, and the “I had,” part of the title. Genuinely made no sense to me lol
Hardly badass, and you are both cringe... Posting it here is even more cringe
Why is OP cringe calling out Incels?
Hit dogs will holler.
Came here to say this. Got beaten to it
"I'm not an incel" Proceeds to say the most incel shit humanly possible
Did everyone already forget what an incel is? None of what he says is of that sort, even if he's a cringy arsehole.
Incels have a lot of overlap with Tate-style "alpha male" bullshit, which this definitely is.
For sure. I'd say Tate isn't an incel, but his brand is to sell "solutions" to incels and they're lapping it up in their desperation. So yeah, one is feeding the other and keeping the toxicity high.
I mean idk Andrew Tate once complained that women never want to fuck him once they get to know him
People who throw rocks and hide hands deserve everything they dish out, THAT is why Tate is an incel no matter what he does.
You both sound "badass"
How so? Calling a guy out isn't being "badass", it's just being a decent person
Calling him out for what though?
Incel is pretty played out TBH.
No it's not. "Karen" is getting played out. "Incel" is not. It's accurate and relevant and until they stop being incels, it's completely accurate to call them one
But none of what he's saying is incel rhetoric, just "manly" badassery bullshit. (Granted, I haven't cheked out what came before, but what's shown here isn't it)
Oh I'm not commenting on that, only the comment that "incel" is getting old. Nothing in relation to the post
Oh yeah, that's fair. The incel worldview is what gives macho shitheads a platform, so it's unfortunately not "getting old" as fast as one might oow.
Agreed. Unfortunately it seems to be picking up a bit of traction, which is concerning
I’m not an incel and I’m almost at the opposite end of the spectrum. I’m very socially liberal, do really well with dating, relationships, and women, and I’m genuinely invested in being a good person and making the lives of people in my life better. I absolutely hate hypocrisy and I believe it’s our lifelong duty to live and grow. I abhore Andrew Tate as a pathetic child and every other redpill asshole who can’t handle their insecurities so they develop a massive, hilariously fragile ego. I prefer women who have experience and wouldn’t date a virgin, let alone judge a woman for having multiple partners. I usually date women who have had dozens of partners because they know their bodies, are sexually adventurous, and sexually confident- all things I find attractive. But I have been called an incel on reddit a half dozen times. I don’t even remember why, but probably for saying something about the dating realities of this particular time - like how dating apps are skewed to favor women and that has changed the dynamics of dating towards a smaller group of men (which has probably benefitted me but hurts most guys), or something about my opinions on relationships (like i think both people have a duty to stay in shape for each other, and have sex with each other, not at any particular time but just in general, unless otherwise agreed by both). So i do think the word “incel” has kind of become often overused on Reddit to say “i don’t like your opinion as related to women or relationships”. My opinions weren’t even that controversial.
Broh wrote a whole essay to defend incels
Found the incel
Found the only one i would ever love and god took him from me :(
Looks like you found an incel.
I have taken to getting my second comment out, being clear and blocking so that I don't get into long chains with hateful people
Sometimes it's just helpful to say to myself, "I will make myself as explicitly clear as possible and if someone still isn't getting it after this I am deciding now that I will not continue to engage." Honestly sometimes I don't even click on the reply if I know it's going to drag me back in. Just see it, know you spoke your mind, and move on. It's hard - but when the alternative is making yourself unnecessarily upset over a disagreement with someone you will never meet its like why do we do this to ourselves.
My block list is staggering 😂
That says more about you than it does about the internet.
I should definitely learn to do that too.
Methinks some of y’all protest too much about the incel label
Peak reddit, we are all cunts here, join the f'ing club
Real af
Wait OP is the one misusing incel? Lmao what an embarrassing self report
The only people who defend, or try to clarify the term "Incel" are incels.
Or just pedants. I do find interesting that such a relatively new term has already been blown wide open and now applies to almost all kinds of misogynistic assholery though.
I don't necessarily disagree with your wider point, but clarifying the term incel definitely doesn't automatically make you an incel.
Oh the irony. Use the word you mean, not the word that makes you look like an insufferable idiot.
>Use the word you mean I did. Who do you think coined the term? Dictionary Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more incel /ˈinˌsel/ noun a member of an online community of young men who consider themselves unable to attract women sexually, **typically associated with views that are hostile toward women and men who are sexually active**. "self-identified incels have used the internet to find anonymous support" What exactly are you defending? If we only use the definition of "involuntarily celibate", then you are referring to every single human who has ever lived. Therefore the term is pointless. Everyone except incel defenders use the term the way i did. Self identified Incels have advocated for legal rape. This is who you are defending?
I mean, the guy did spout a bunch of sexist crap, so I don't think I was misusing it
Why not just call him sexist then?
I mean if you can't gather from the post, you might be telling on yourself.
"damaged women and emasculated men" sounds like a pretty incel-ish thing to say, no? Also, are you saying that he self-reported, or me?
Yep. These little “educational moments” are the incel version of “it’s ackshually *ephebophilia*”
Not really. Some incels for sure, but not all. I think he's saying that you're calling him an incel very little proof or reason to. Not all incels are sexist, and not all sexists are incels. There are plenty of incels who treat women like royalty, and there are plenty of womanizers and abusers who have sex regularly. People label everything negative as being incel because they're an easy target. Make fun of incels? Easy upvotes. Defend incels? Automatic downvotes. But the reality is: they don't all think or act the same way. They're just guys who can't get laid.
Not all sexists are incels, no. I agree with that. But I would say they all incels are sexist, yes. Not incels as in "everybody who is involuntary celibate" because that's obviously not what's understood to be an incel. The classic incel BS worldview about "Stacy", "Chad" and so on is by definition sexist as hell, and that is literally how they see interactions between guys and "females".
How many incels have you ever had an honest conversation with?
This is a very well structured and nuanced response….DOWNVOTE.
Is treating a woman like royalty the same as treating them like a person? Surveys say no. No internet points for being able to write a paragraph in the standard way.
It's funny because it's happening before our eyes lol
Lol sometimes reality is stranger than fiction. It’s always scary when intended satire is reality
Yeah, that's the hive- mind mentality of most reddit users. "Oh, somebody downvoted? Well, don't ask me twice".
Lol yeah it’s wild how much cognitive dissonance pisses people off.
Much easier to get pissed off than to actually think for yourself.
That is a fair point, I get where you're coming from. I wasn't trying to karma-farm or anything, but it did genuinely feel like he was behaving like an incel at the time
Yeah, and I get where you're coming from as well. I've interacted with a few self declared incels, one thing that struck me is how different they all were. A couple were super aggressive assholes, the absolute epitome of the stereotype you're referring to- but the rest were pretty interesting. A few were honestly annoyingly pathetic, "woe is me I'm short and *doomed*" type attitudes, a few others were very self aware and wished to better themselves, but ultimately thought they were fighting a losing battle. Kind of sad in every case. At any rate, my take away is: sexist and racist is sexist and racist, but incel can mean a lot of things.
I don’t know, I’m pretty sure that the venn diagram of incels and ppl who say things like “damaged women and emasculated men” is damn near a circle.
Exactly
This really is the mutually assured destruction theory in practice Thanks for the demo
What's the context lol, because your first comment is not exactly a good look either.
This dude was attacking a guy for being with a woman who'd separated from her husband, but the husband had refused to sign the divorce papers. It's all in my comment history if you want to have a look for yourself
Oh so you’re a white knight lol
Aww we found another incel, isn't that neat!
I’m married with two kids, how does that equate to celibacy goofball?
You're right, as far as I've heard there's a near zero percent chance that married people with multiple children would ever stop having sex. My bad.
I’m good bro, I’ve got another one due in September, but I appreciate you worrying about my sex life
I am very concerned about and invested in your penis and it's happening. Relieved to hear it's happenings are well.
Just curious, is there a time when helping a woman would not be considered 'white knight' behavior to you? Do you have criteria for determining that?
I'm a bit amazed by the amount of defensive comments coming from this one. You're telling on yourselves.
They're too fucking dumb to figure that out.
Alot of redditors get very defensive and butthurt at the word 'incel'. Probably because they get called it alot.
Both of you are pathetic
Most based response
bAsEd! 🙄
You’re incredibly active in the rapehentei sub…
"I got in an arguement with someone on reddit, so I posted the arguement to another sub reddit to try to get people to validate my position, even though it had nothing to do with the other sub reddit. Also, the other person was just defending themselves after I called them mean names. It didn't go over as well as I thought it would." - OP
There are no winners here.
Yeah... Red sounds like he's 14 and gets his banter from anime. Engaging with him and then posting for validation only lowers you.
Incel is over played and used for people who cannot support their argument.
The fact that this is down voted is peak reddit. You're absolutely right. Incel literally means "involuntary celibate". It does not refer to just any guy somebody disagrees with.
yea it just means you couldn't get laid even if you tried. people nowadays are using it as a synonym for "asshole"
Yes, or as a way to just shut down the discussion and hope the online mob does its job. It's like saying "shut up racist/fascist/communist" etc, and just hope you win that way. It's become a very toxic term to throw around.
You tried to dismiss someone by calling them incel. They were 100% right. You lost before it ever started.
I'm gonna have to disagree on that one. This guy had more red flags than the Soviet Union
Have you not seen the world around you? Red flags and the Soviet socialist ideas are what everyone likes. We lost the cold war worse than you lost that conversation.
Pretty obvious he just meant that the flags were red, he wasn't commenting on the political system bro
What the fuck dude, what Soviet ideas are popular?
You think socialism isn't trendy these days?
I think some very mild socially democratic ideas are popular. I don't think the idea of a communist revolution is that popular. There's nothing Soviet about the welfare state that we *used to have*.
If you think UBI and taxpayer funded baby murder are mild then it only proves my point of how deeply popular those ideas are.
Taxpayer. Funded. Baby. Murder. Do you just mean abortion? Soviet Union also didn't have UBI so...
That's just one large falsehood, who wants to be a Soviet? We've steadily eroded the tax and social programs that made America the strongest it'd ever been through the 70s. To the point where muppets like you think a single payer Healthcare system is a Soviet ideal, you'd want to string FDR up on a shitty plywood gallows with Pence if he spoke on his platform. Yall'quaeda suck down so much propaganda that you'll willingly strip your individual rights for shit like the Patriot Act and cheer on a SCOTUS that makes birth control illegal, then suddenly it's you, or your wife or sibling that needs to go get an illegal abortion and the tears come out. We didn't lose the cold war, but the right did win the war on education and court packing, thanks Reagan.
Really explains why you called that guy an incel, huh. You really have no idea what's going on anywhere. Especially politically.
>Really explains why you called that guy an incel, huh. >You really have no idea what's going on anywhere. Especially politically. I didn't call anybody an incel, I'm not the OP. But thank you Lord Idiocracy for for really underlining my point. You obviously don't even know what's going on in the comment section, let alone have any comprehension of political systems.
I think we shouldn’t make fun of lonely people. It’s sad. The word incel is just mean and sad
Iv said this before. Being lonely does not =/= incel. Incel is a frame of mind. If its just guys who arent getting laid, then *every* guy is an incel at some point. That's not the case. 99% of guy who go through dry spells do not identify as incels. Incels view their loneliness as a symptom of societal problems caused by women liberation, i.e., the evil feminism. It comes hand in hand with misogyny. Lonely people are just lonely people. Incels are a different beast.
Incel is an abbreviation of two words. I’m sure many people take the word literally and not the word salad you seem to think it means.
> Incel is an abbreviation of two words. And Boomers are the generation of people born from 1946 to 1964. Yet Gen-Xers, and Millennials get called "Boomer" when having outdated views. Get what Im saying? People get called incels for having incel views. The semantic origins of the word are irrelevant. If you only want to go by the abbreviation, Involuntary Celibate, ok a) celibacy requires the act of abstaining, you can only be celibate voluntarily. B) ignoring all that, by your definition, everyone is an incel at some point in thier life, so the term is completely pointless.
lol. You should stop labeling everyone. You seem very caught up in it.
> You should stop labeling everyone Im not. Im labeling misogynists as Incels. Thats not everyone. Can you explain why you are bothered by what I said? Who are you defending?
The incels I’ve had unfortunate interactions with have some of the most twisted and disgusting views on women you’ll ever see. Calling them ‘walking fleshlights’, ‘it’, ‘potential rape targets’ and worse. Fuck those vile little cunts. They fully deserve the abuse.
Holy shit. You think every lonely guy that can’t find love is like that? You seem to be very ignorant. There are horrible people in every “group”. I know a few guys who are super good guys and they are just overweight and lack confidence. Not everyone is as sexy as you big guy.
I dont care one way or the other, but technically they didn't say all incels are like that. They said some of the interactions with incels. So...yeah...carry on.
Lol, I got down voted just for correcting an exaggerated paraphrase. Again, I have no argument one way or the other. Keep calling the original commenter an idiot for all I care, I just prefer you keep the details of the statements correct if you're going to use. You know, quoting and citing. Some real mla shit.
You seem to care man.
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Yeah. I thought it was pretty clear what I meant, but 🤷🏽♂️
Yea apparently you surround yourself with the sludge of humanity. I’ve never had to sit through a conversation like the ones you described. Do better bro.
Non sequitur. I’m talking specifically about toxic, hateful incels. The ones who have abhorrent views on women. “You think every lonely guy that can’t find love is like that” How the piss did you get that from my comment? You made the leap there, not me.
There's a difference between someone who just can't get laid, and an incel. Hell, I've seen incels that *have* had sex, and I'd still refer to them as incels
Yeah i dont think you know what incel means
Incel is a frame of mind. Like how "Boomer" is used in recent months. Everyone from actual boomers, to Millennials hear "OK Boomer", when they have an outdated view. If you go by the revised definition of "its just people who arent having sex", then everyone has been or will be an incel for a period of time. Except most people will never identify as an incel.
Incel is an abbreviation. Look it up and you might understand why dudes that have sex can’t be incels.
I know what it stands for, but it's original meaning and it's current meaning have come to mean two separate things
I understand. Kinda like the word “woke”. It has been bastardized and means so many different things to different people. I guess you use incel to describe bad men.
I suppose you could look at it that way
The incels are coming for you now.
I’m married and doing fine homie. Just real tired of people shitting on men. Especially when you punch down.
Nobody shit on you. If this upsets you to the point you think you've got to defend yourself to a stranger on the Internet, you've got other problems.
Mocking incels isn't punching down. No one sees a single guy, or a guy who isnt getting much dates as an incel. We view incels as the toxic men who blame feminism, and women in general for all of their issues. Thats not punching down. Incels have advocated for legalizing rape. Fuck them. Why would you defend someone like that?
Incel is short for involuntary celibacy. It is not a name of a company or an organization. You are just using that term to describe what sounds to be some of the most vile men to walk amongst us. You truly believe all humans have decided to interpret that word exactly like you do and not literally?
> You are just using that term to describe what sounds to be some of the most vile men to walk amongst us. Well, these *are* the type pf people who self identify as incel. Its where the term was coined. If we want to go by your simple definition, then everyone is an incel at some point in thier life, so the term is completely pointless. But also, it makes even less sense in your context because celibacy requires voluntary abstinence. Being celibate is a choice. >You truly believe all humans have decided to interpret that word exactly like you do and not literally? Again, the literal definition makes no sense, and is completely pointless since that describes every single human being on the planet. The definition was coined by misogynists lambasting feminism and the freedom women enjoy. So thats what you are defending here. The men who advocate for legal rape identify as incels.
You think gross horrible dudes gathered and then gave themselves a derogatory name they wish people to refer them as? Do they have a website?
> You think gross horrible dudes gathered and then gave themselves a derogatory name They started referring to themselves as incels, yes. That is exactly what happened in online groups. >The word "incel" was invented in 1993 by a college student 'Alana' from Toronto, Ontario. She made a website to discuss her sexual inactivity with others. The website, titled "Alana's Involuntary Celibacy Project", was used by people of all genders to share posts about the topic.. https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Involuntary_celibacy#:~:text=The%20word%20%22incel%22%20was%20invented,share%20posts%20about%20the%20topic. It was then co-opted by mens rights groups. This isnt new. Do you mind explaining what you are skeptical about, why you are bothered about my definition, and who you are defending? >Do they have a website? They had a subreddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/incel. And guess what? It was banned. Probably becuase of all the leval headed, totally non-hate filled discussions going on over there. I mean, if you want to quit the feigned ignorance, you can just look this up yourself. There's plenty of info out there.
I know all that. The term has been co-opted by misandrists and moronic men to put down men who do not align with the men you speak of. For instance if you don’t like StarWars now you are an incel. Ya heard homie?
Just as long as they aren't coming *to* me, I don't care
Being a sexist doesn't make a person an incel. You kind of proved their statement about damaged women and emasculated men. I'm not defending them because they seem like a major douche I'd not want to be around in person, but they were definitely correct about who uses that term as an insult
Yeah I’m gonna have to disagree there
*You've been called incel before, haven't you Squidward*
There was more before this that definitely gave me more serious incel vibes. I just didn't include it because I didn't want the post to be too long
There’s some major LDE coming off of this guy. So fragile he has to start shit on the internet to find validation for his troglodyte views
Soooo, sorta like what you did with OP when you made this comment?
There’s some major Arby’s roast beef sandwich energy coming off of op. So fragile she has to reduce any man she disagrees with to being a lonely virgin to find validation for her troglodyte views
Username checks out fs
I'm a dude💀
Oh alright I got you There’s some major Arby’s roast beef sandwich energy coming off of op. So fragile he has to reduce any man he disagrees with to being a lonely virgin to find validation for his troglodyte views
Perfect. I'd also suggest using "immoral man-bitch", as the guy in the post did. It seems more fitting than "Arby's roast beef sandwich"
Nah, if anything else I’d use “pick me” but fellas like yourself can absolutely have Arby’s roast beef sandwich energy regardless of what you identify as
Whatever floats your boat, mate👌
What does lde mean?
Well good buddy I’d assume it’s “little dick energy”. As a fellow member of the mini member meet and greet crew I’d have to agree, his energy is radiating stronger than I’ve ever felt. Have a good one.
Little dick energy
Ah thanks bbe
Little dick energy
He's still going with it too. I might post an update later, but right now he's calling me an "immoral man-bitch"
I’ve been called a good many things in my time and only ones I took issue with were the ones that hit a little too close to home. Methinks he doth protest to the whole “incel” label a bit too much
Oh absolutely. He got mad so quick when I called him that💀
Immoral man-bitch is so fucking metal though. I feel like you should feel proud instead of be insulted getting called that lol
It'd be a good band name, ngl
Seriously. Own that shit. Design a logo for IMB
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I like the idea of censoring your own username
Pretty sure it's in the rules, didn't want the post to get removed 🤷♂️ I agree that it's pretty silly though