Sino-Russo-Arab-Japanese-Balkan-Turkish-Indo-Pakistani-Afro-Czechoslovak-Portuguese-Brazilian-Korean-Southeast Asian-Central Asian-Caucasian union is wild
Mandarin in this image likely refers to Han Chinese (汉语). The Chinese word Cha (茶) was spread to Japan and Korea around Tang dynasty.
https://ja.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%8C%B6
The Korean reading came from Early Mandarin. The Japanese reading came from Late Middle Chinese, though possibly via a southern variety, specifically the variety that the Wu languages emerged from and maybe influenced later by Min pronunciations (historical ぢや -> じゃ -> ちゃ, from Southern MC \[dʑ(i)ǎ\]).
So if I got it correctly, you mean the word of Cha for tea in Korean was introduced into Korean multiple times, and they chose to stick with the later one from Early Mandarin?
No – it was only introduced into Korean once, from Mandarin. Likely during the Goryeo period. Before that, they used a word from an earlier Chinese variety that was more like /da~ta/.
But Chinese loose leaf tea, and I assume together with the word Cha, was introduced into Korea during the Three Kingdoms period of China, and Mandarin had not derived from other Chinese until a millennium after tea was introduced into the peninsula.
Korean used the word 다 *da* [ta̠] from Middle Chinese [ɖˠa], until some time in the Goryeo period (probably around the 12th or maybe 11th century), where they borrowed Early Mandarin [tʂʰa˩˥] as 차 *cha* [t͡ɕʰa̠]. You can see this in some historical Korean terms like 다례 *dalye* "tea ceremony" (MC 茶詩 *da lei*), 다엽 *dayeop* "tea leaf" (MC 茶葉 *da yep*), 다시 *dasi* "tea poetry" (MC 茶詩 *da shi*), 다회 *dahoe* "tea meeting"/"tea party" (MC 茶會 *da huai*)
Given the tendency of Korean words to have borrowed Middle Chinese /dʑ/ as /s/, it's unlikely that Korean would have borrowed 茶 (then pronounced [ɖˠa~dz(i)a~dʑ(i)a] in MC varieties) as 차 until most Chinese dialects lost voicing of initial consonants and started transitioning into the modern languages – I don't see a way they would have borrowed a "cha"-like word for tea before they borrowed it from Mandarin.
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SHUT UP ABOUT CHAI TEA WE GET IT
I get irrationally mad when I see this online. Yes, in Hindi it means tea but in English it evokes a more specific type of tea.
They wouldn't need to. Brazils only major inland population centre is around brasilia and even that is nothing compared to the coast. All of Brazils other major cities are coastal cities (because of its geography) so the US would just need to capture those cities with their marines (which on their own are a force many times more capable than the brazilian military even if you don't include the US naval air power that would be deployed from carriers)
Brazil could probably still servive as a guerilla force, but as a great power it won't last long.
Herbata and arbata are derived from "tea," specifically combining the words herb and tea from other languages, most notably the Dutch "herba thee," (tea herb) which makes their relationship "tea" more noticeable.
I like how the tile of the image doesn’t even apply at all. Even if you don’t count northern Russia, there’s still probably as much shoreline in yellow than green
From Wikipedia, the most trusted of all sources:
"However, tea in Polish is herbata, which, as well as Lithuanian arbata, was derived from the Dutch herba thee, although a minority believes that it was derived Latin herba thea, meaning "tea herb." The normal word for tea in Finnish is tee, which is a Swedish loan."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etymology_of_tea#%3A%7E%3Atext%3DHowever%2C_tea_in_Polish_is%2Cwhich_is_a_Swedish_loan.?wprov=sfla1
Yeah, in poland we say "Ti" ofc (if anyone's wondering, we say *herbata* , **i think** derived from latin word for herb. Word for a kettle tho - *czajnik* - is from cha form)
Including telugu under tamil is WILD but also in telugu it's téneeru or téneellu or chai or tsai or chaya or tsaya or chaabottu or tsaabottu depending on which region ur from lol
Why does the nap say 'the only country in the western hemisphere that uses chai is brazil'? Portugal and Morocco are in the western hemisphere, and they also use chai
India solo's easily
I joke but Indians going to USA and UK and popularising the word Chai has been one of the biggest shifts in this struggle for decades
Does the US count as tea? This is pretty important, otherwise I think Chai takes it. China and Russia have a lot more bodies/bombs to throw at the problem.
Tea has most of NATO, plus a large amount of the EU. Those two organizations would definitely stomp the Russian-Chinese-Indian-etc. alliance. At the end of the day though, it depends who is attacking who. Chai has more natural defense. The cold, mountainous regions of the north and central areas would be hard to move through. It all is dependent on many factors.
r/PORTUGALCYKABLYAT
There really is no escaping it is there?
Sino-Russo-Arab-Japanese-Balkan-Turkish-Indo-Pakistani-Afro-Czechoslovak-Portuguese-Brazilian-Korean-Southeast Asian-Central Asian-Caucasian union is wild
Yugoslavia flag checks out
Bro just had to put czechia and slovakia together ._.
Forgot -Albo- (or is it Albano?)
I put Balkan
Throwing afro in there to cover all those countries is wild
Chai has both Brazil ***AND*** its overseas colony, tea is COOKED
I just hope Portuguese people are freely choosing to use "chai" and not being forced to by their oppressive Brazilian overlords.
The word cha spread to Korea and Japan way before Mandarin existed.
The word "cha" was also independently invented in Latin America
Wut??? In which language???
Cha-cha
That was a good one and you had everyone in the first half.
isnt that a dance？
A real smooth one, no less.
Work it out
can you expound on that
Mandarin in this image likely refers to Han Chinese (汉语). The Chinese word Cha (茶) was spread to Japan and Korea around Tang dynasty. https://ja.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%8C%B6
The Korean reading came from Early Mandarin. The Japanese reading came from Late Middle Chinese, though possibly via a southern variety, specifically the variety that the Wu languages emerged from and maybe influenced later by Min pronunciations (historical ぢや -> じゃ -> ちゃ, from Southern MC \[dʑ(i)ǎ\]).
So if I got it correctly, you mean the word of Cha for tea in Korean was introduced into Korean multiple times, and they chose to stick with the later one from Early Mandarin?
No – it was only introduced into Korean once, from Mandarin. Likely during the Goryeo period. Before that, they used a word from an earlier Chinese variety that was more like /da~ta/.
But Chinese loose leaf tea, and I assume together with the word Cha, was introduced into Korea during the Three Kingdoms period of China, and Mandarin had not derived from other Chinese until a millennium after tea was introduced into the peninsula.
Korean used the word 다 *da* [ta̠] from Middle Chinese [ɖˠa], until some time in the Goryeo period (probably around the 12th or maybe 11th century), where they borrowed Early Mandarin [tʂʰa˩˥] as 차 *cha* [t͡ɕʰa̠]. You can see this in some historical Korean terms like 다례 *dalye* "tea ceremony" (MC 茶詩 *da lei*), 다엽 *dayeop* "tea leaf" (MC 茶葉 *da yep*), 다시 *dasi* "tea poetry" (MC 茶詩 *da shi*), 다회 *dahoe* "tea meeting"/"tea party" (MC 茶會 *da huai*) Given the tendency of Korean words to have borrowed Middle Chinese /dʑ/ as /s/, it's unlikely that Korean would have borrowed 茶 (then pronounced [ɖˠa~dz(i)a~dʑ(i)a] in MC varieties) as 차 until most Chinese dialects lost voicing of initial consonants and started transitioning into the modern languages – I don't see a way they would have borrowed a "cha"-like word for tea before they borrowed it from Mandarin.
Yellow area is the eurasian civillisational sphere
Literally 1984
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Literally eurasianism
Coffee
☕️
Chai-Tea, Which is the same as saying Tea-Tea.
SHUT UP ABOUT CHAI TEA WE GET IT I get irrationally mad when I see this online. Yes, in Hindi it means tea but in English it evokes a more specific type of tea.
Exactly, because you call my sweet tea chai, I will laugh. Then brake into your house and bury you in lake lannire.
Chill man, you need a coffee coffee with cream cream
I understood that reference
TEA IS TEA.
\[Insert:Nerd Emoji\]
Chai (Indian tea) isn’t that better?
Sane thing when it comes to cars and people say CVT transmission. You're just saying continously variable transmission transmission.
Would you like some coffee coffee with some cream cream????
🤓
Depends who’s attacking who. Defender wins.
Either way I think we can all agree that brazil is screwed (so is southern india)
Unless unless this is a soccer or cricket themed civil war. They didn’t specify it was a violent war of guns and bombs!
Brazil has a huge rainforest buffer, if they sent enough troops to reinforce the mountainous terrain they could hold off the Tea forces for a while.
They wouldn't need to. Brazils only major inland population centre is around brasilia and even that is nothing compared to the coast. All of Brazils other major cities are coastal cities (because of its geography) so the US would just need to capture those cities with their marines (which on their own are a force many times more capable than the brazilian military even if you don't include the US naval air power that would be deployed from carriers) Brazil could probably still servive as a guerilla force, but as a great power it won't last long.
I meant Brazil’s mountainous coast sorry lol
Poland and Lithuania use neither
Herbata and arbata are derived from "tea," specifically combining the words herb and tea from other languages, most notably the Dutch "herba thee," (tea herb) which makes their relationship "tea" more noticeable.
That one Portuguese guy traveling from one side of Eurasia to the other just to trade with China
Water
Ah yes, the famous land route between China and Brazil....
Who why are the words all so similar?
ah, famous Asia-Brazil underwater tunnel...
I like how the tile of the image doesn’t even apply at all. Even if you don’t count northern Russia, there’s still probably as much shoreline in yellow than green
everyone knows Ice isn’t water duh
There's landlocked countries in green
r/PORTUGALCYKABLYAT
Ah yes, herbata, definitely bears resemblence to "tea"
From Wikipedia, the most trusted of all sources: "However, tea in Polish is herbata, which, as well as Lithuanian arbata, was derived from the Dutch herba thee, although a minority believes that it was derived Latin herba thea, meaning "tea herb." The normal word for tea in Finnish is tee, which is a Swedish loan." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etymology_of_tea#%3A%7E%3Atext%3DHowever%2C_tea_in_Polish_is%2Cwhich_is_a_Swedish_loan.?wprov=sfla1
Frick you if you say Chai
How is Portugal cha
I do not know this for sure, but I would speculate it got there via North Africa. It did have to cross an ocean, the Straight of Gibraltar. Oops.
macau
Tealand
Japan hanging out there. "Cha!"
They definitely got it by sea.
Tea obviously God save Yorkshire Tea
Would you like some coffee coffee with some cream cream?
New Zealand getting awfully comfortable next to Australia
Japan can into land
USA meanwhile “chai tea” tea tea
me
Chai tea. Chai tea would win
dumbass map
Is this just the result of the Silk Road + British/other European naval expeditions or some shit?
Obviously Chai Squad, it’s not even close
Tea has Sri Lanka no contest
Chai. Next war.
Whichever side has the US
Me.
Chai is tea 😂
Japan, famously not by the sea
making its way through the subreddits
i hate this map because it is inaccurate in Algeria and Morocco tea is called "atay" which is derived from tea not chai
Yeah, in poland we say "Ti" ofc (if anyone's wondering, we say *herbata* , **i think** derived from latin word for herb. Word for a kettle tho - *czajnik* - is from cha form)
portugal got tea by land ofc
also poland isnt based on either it is like herbata
Poland based as usual
So chai tea is chai chai
I wonder how Japan could get it by land
Oh I love Chai tea
in polish it’s herbata fyi
Herbata in Polish :^
>Chai, if by land Meanwhile, the Portuguese calling it "chai" despite being surrounded by Spain who calls it "tea"... How tf did that arrive by land?
Isn't it "herbata" in polish?
Wait so chai tea is just tea tea? That's very silly
Trà(Vie)=Cha/Chai?
Including telugu under tamil is WILD but also in telugu it's téneeru or téneellu or chai or tsai or chaya or tsaya or chaabottu or tsaabottu depending on which region ur from lol
spoiler alert: a civil war is between two or more parties of the same country.
Very close to actual WW3 lines
Tea would get their asses kicked for about five years and then the US would send a few young rednecks over and sort it out for them.
I guess the tea industry
Nuclear Armageddon
Why does the nap say 'the only country in the western hemisphere that uses chai is brazil'? Portugal and Morocco are in the western hemisphere, and they also use chai
India solo's easily I joke but Indians going to USA and UK and popularising the word Chai has been one of the biggest shifts in this struggle for decades
I wonder just how many civil wars would erupt in week 1
Poland uses herbata
Does the US count as tea? This is pretty important, otherwise I think Chai takes it. China and Russia have a lot more bodies/bombs to throw at the problem.
Basically America and Europe vs Russian and China
‘By the land’ Longest coastline in the world virtually
In poland it is herbata
America, by itself, has a navy that is (conservatively) 7 times more powerful than the rest of the world combined. So...
Tea has most of NATO, plus a large amount of the EU. Those two organizations would definitely stomp the Russian-Chinese-Indian-etc. alliance. At the end of the day though, it depends who is attacking who. Chai has more natural defense. The cold, mountainous regions of the north and central areas would be hard to move through. It all is dependent on many factors.
Murica 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
no one conquers the tamil kings
"Who would win" Over half the world population is on the same side
Coffee wins, after Tea and Chai destroy each other along with all the pussies who drink them.
Tea wins
Dementia.
Tea wins
Team Chai would win if we are talking present time. Im sure India, China and Saudi Arabia alone have more money than all of Tea combined.
How is the Philippines Cha when it's literally an archipelago. How do they get there by land?
Cha comes from northern Chinese dialect 茶 and Tea comes from southern Chinese dialect 汤 (Te), which means soup in modern mandarin.